Jeep Realiability
09-24-2003, 04:59 AM
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Jeep Realiability
Lo Jeepers,
My other half pointed out an article in a local (UK) paper (Daily
Express). Which quotes from the "Warranty Direct Reliability index"
which is itself compiled from garage bills of 39k cards with an average
age of 4.8 years and have a average millage of 49,702 miles.
Top of the table was Mazda with an average repair bill of £275 and a 16%
failure rate.
Second is Ford with an average repair bill of £207 and a 32% failure rate
Third is Honda with an average repair bill of £277 and a 20% failure rate)
Right down at the other end..
At 21st comes Land Rover with a average repair bill of £420 and a 44%
repair bill and an average failure rate of 44%
22nd comes Subary with a whopping average repair bill of £1040 and a 21%
repair bill
and Lastly but not least comes Jeep in 23rd place (last) with an average
repair bill of £587.92 and an average repair bill of 41%.
Not great recommendation for the Jeep really, although since the highest
failure rates in the chart being 4x4 related brands it makes me wonder
quite how much driving an over engineered road vehicle makes sense.
Gyp
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Jeep at the Threshold
http://the-threshold.org/gallery/Jeep
--
4x4 Anoraks Offload
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My other half pointed out an article in a local (UK) paper (Daily
Express). Which quotes from the "Warranty Direct Reliability index"
which is itself compiled from garage bills of 39k cards with an average
age of 4.8 years and have a average millage of 49,702 miles.
Top of the table was Mazda with an average repair bill of £275 and a 16%
failure rate.
Second is Ford with an average repair bill of £207 and a 32% failure rate
Third is Honda with an average repair bill of £277 and a 20% failure rate)
Right down at the other end..
At 21st comes Land Rover with a average repair bill of £420 and a 44%
repair bill and an average failure rate of 44%
22nd comes Subary with a whopping average repair bill of £1040 and a 21%
repair bill
and Lastly but not least comes Jeep in 23rd place (last) with an average
repair bill of £587.92 and an average repair bill of 41%.
Not great recommendation for the Jeep really, although since the highest
failure rates in the chart being 4x4 related brands it makes me wonder
quite how much driving an over engineered road vehicle makes sense.
Gyp
--
Jeep at the Threshold
http://the-threshold.org/gallery/Jeep
--
4x4 Anoraks Offload
http://anoraks.uk.net
09-24-2003, 05:13 AM
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Re: Jeep Realiability
My personal philosophy (sure to be disputed/debated/etc.) on Jeeps are
that if you drive one, you do your own maintenance/repairs. If you
want a vehicle that 'makes sense', you drive the Mazda or the Honda.
IMO, there aren't many situations anymore these days where a Jeep
'makes sense' (unless you intentionally go looking for those
situations), but I sure wouldn't trade mine in for anything else. :)
Dave
http://home1.gte.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 08:59:58 +0000 (UTC), Gyp <gyp@localdomain.net>
wrote:
>Lo Jeepers,
>
>My other half pointed out an article in a local (UK) paper (Daily
>Express). Which quotes from the "Warranty Direct Reliability index"
>which is itself compiled from garage bills of 39k cards with an average
>age of 4.8 years and have a average millage of 49,702 miles.
>
>Top of the table was Mazda with an average repair bill of £275 and a 16%
>failure rate.
>Second is Ford with an average repair bill of £207 and a 32% failure rate
>Third is Honda with an average repair bill of £277 and a 20% failure rate)
>
>Right down at the other end..
>At 21st comes Land Rover with a average repair bill of £420 and a 44%
>repair bill and an average failure rate of 44%
>22nd comes Subary with a whopping average repair bill of £1040 and a 21%
>repair bill
>and Lastly but not least comes Jeep in 23rd place (last) with an average
>repair bill of £587.92 and an average repair bill of 41%.
>
>
>Not great recommendation for the Jeep really, although since the highest
>failure rates in the chart being 4x4 related brands it makes me wonder
>quite how much driving an over engineered road vehicle makes sense.
>
>Gyp
>
>--
>Jeep at the Threshold
>http://the-threshold.org/gallery/Jeep
that if you drive one, you do your own maintenance/repairs. If you
want a vehicle that 'makes sense', you drive the Mazda or the Honda.
IMO, there aren't many situations anymore these days where a Jeep
'makes sense' (unless you intentionally go looking for those
situations), but I sure wouldn't trade mine in for anything else. :)
Dave
http://home1.gte.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 08:59:58 +0000 (UTC), Gyp <gyp@localdomain.net>
wrote:
>Lo Jeepers,
>
>My other half pointed out an article in a local (UK) paper (Daily
>Express). Which quotes from the "Warranty Direct Reliability index"
>which is itself compiled from garage bills of 39k cards with an average
>age of 4.8 years and have a average millage of 49,702 miles.
>
>Top of the table was Mazda with an average repair bill of £275 and a 16%
>failure rate.
>Second is Ford with an average repair bill of £207 and a 32% failure rate
>Third is Honda with an average repair bill of £277 and a 20% failure rate)
>
>Right down at the other end..
>At 21st comes Land Rover with a average repair bill of £420 and a 44%
>repair bill and an average failure rate of 44%
>22nd comes Subary with a whopping average repair bill of £1040 and a 21%
>repair bill
>and Lastly but not least comes Jeep in 23rd place (last) with an average
>repair bill of £587.92 and an average repair bill of 41%.
>
>
>Not great recommendation for the Jeep really, although since the highest
>failure rates in the chart being 4x4 related brands it makes me wonder
>quite how much driving an over engineered road vehicle makes sense.
>
>Gyp
>
>--
>Jeep at the Threshold
>http://the-threshold.org/gallery/Jeep
09-24-2003, 05:13 AM
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Re: Jeep Realiability
My personal philosophy (sure to be disputed/debated/etc.) on Jeeps are
that if you drive one, you do your own maintenance/repairs. If you
want a vehicle that 'makes sense', you drive the Mazda or the Honda.
IMO, there aren't many situations anymore these days where a Jeep
'makes sense' (unless you intentionally go looking for those
situations), but I sure wouldn't trade mine in for anything else. :)
Dave
http://home1.gte.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 08:59:58 +0000 (UTC), Gyp <gyp@localdomain.net>
wrote:
>Lo Jeepers,
>
>My other half pointed out an article in a local (UK) paper (Daily
>Express). Which quotes from the "Warranty Direct Reliability index"
>which is itself compiled from garage bills of 39k cards with an average
>age of 4.8 years and have a average millage of 49,702 miles.
>
>Top of the table was Mazda with an average repair bill of £275 and a 16%
>failure rate.
>Second is Ford with an average repair bill of £207 and a 32% failure rate
>Third is Honda with an average repair bill of £277 and a 20% failure rate)
>
>Right down at the other end..
>At 21st comes Land Rover with a average repair bill of £420 and a 44%
>repair bill and an average failure rate of 44%
>22nd comes Subary with a whopping average repair bill of £1040 and a 21%
>repair bill
>and Lastly but not least comes Jeep in 23rd place (last) with an average
>repair bill of £587.92 and an average repair bill of 41%.
>
>
>Not great recommendation for the Jeep really, although since the highest
>failure rates in the chart being 4x4 related brands it makes me wonder
>quite how much driving an over engineered road vehicle makes sense.
>
>Gyp
>
>--
>Jeep at the Threshold
>http://the-threshold.org/gallery/Jeep
that if you drive one, you do your own maintenance/repairs. If you
want a vehicle that 'makes sense', you drive the Mazda or the Honda.
IMO, there aren't many situations anymore these days where a Jeep
'makes sense' (unless you intentionally go looking for those
situations), but I sure wouldn't trade mine in for anything else. :)
Dave
http://home1.gte.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 08:59:58 +0000 (UTC), Gyp <gyp@localdomain.net>
wrote:
>Lo Jeepers,
>
>My other half pointed out an article in a local (UK) paper (Daily
>Express). Which quotes from the "Warranty Direct Reliability index"
>which is itself compiled from garage bills of 39k cards with an average
>age of 4.8 years and have a average millage of 49,702 miles.
>
>Top of the table was Mazda with an average repair bill of £275 and a 16%
>failure rate.
>Second is Ford with an average repair bill of £207 and a 32% failure rate
>Third is Honda with an average repair bill of £277 and a 20% failure rate)
>
>Right down at the other end..
>At 21st comes Land Rover with a average repair bill of £420 and a 44%
>repair bill and an average failure rate of 44%
>22nd comes Subary with a whopping average repair bill of £1040 and a 21%
>repair bill
>and Lastly but not least comes Jeep in 23rd place (last) with an average
>repair bill of £587.92 and an average repair bill of 41%.
>
>
>Not great recommendation for the Jeep really, although since the highest
>failure rates in the chart being 4x4 related brands it makes me wonder
>quite how much driving an over engineered road vehicle makes sense.
>
>Gyp
>
>--
>Jeep at the Threshold
>http://the-threshold.org/gallery/Jeep
09-24-2003, 07:42 AM
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Re: Jeep Realiability
And it gets lousy gas mileage, while offroad too.
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Gyp wrote:
>
> Lo Jeepers,
>
> My other half pointed out an article in a local (UK) paper (Daily
> Express). Which quotes from the "Warranty Direct Reliability index"
> which is itself compiled from garage bills of 39k cards with an average
> age of 4.8 years and have a average millage of 49,702 miles.
>
> Top of the table was Mazda with an average repair bill of £275 and a 16%
> failure rate.
> Second is Ford with an average repair bill of £207 and a 32% failure rate
> Third is Honda with an average repair bill of £277 and a 20% failure rate)
>
> Right down at the other end..
> At 21st comes Land Rover with a average repair bill of £420 and a 44%
> repair bill and an average failure rate of 44%
> 22nd comes Subary with a whopping average repair bill of £1040 and a 21%
> repair bill
> and Lastly but not least comes Jeep in 23rd place (last) with an average
> repair bill of £587.92 and an average repair bill of 41%.
>
> Not great recommendation for the Jeep really, although since the highest
> failure rates in the chart being 4x4 related brands it makes me wonder
> quite how much driving an over engineered road vehicle makes sense.
>
> Gyp
>
> --
> Jeep at the Threshold
> http://the-threshold.org/gallery/Jeep
> --
> 4x4 Anoraks Offload
> http://anoraks.uk.net
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Gyp wrote:
>
> Lo Jeepers,
>
> My other half pointed out an article in a local (UK) paper (Daily
> Express). Which quotes from the "Warranty Direct Reliability index"
> which is itself compiled from garage bills of 39k cards with an average
> age of 4.8 years and have a average millage of 49,702 miles.
>
> Top of the table was Mazda with an average repair bill of £275 and a 16%
> failure rate.
> Second is Ford with an average repair bill of £207 and a 32% failure rate
> Third is Honda with an average repair bill of £277 and a 20% failure rate)
>
> Right down at the other end..
> At 21st comes Land Rover with a average repair bill of £420 and a 44%
> repair bill and an average failure rate of 44%
> 22nd comes Subary with a whopping average repair bill of £1040 and a 21%
> repair bill
> and Lastly but not least comes Jeep in 23rd place (last) with an average
> repair bill of £587.92 and an average repair bill of 41%.
>
> Not great recommendation for the Jeep really, although since the highest
> failure rates in the chart being 4x4 related brands it makes me wonder
> quite how much driving an over engineered road vehicle makes sense.
>
> Gyp
>
> --
> Jeep at the Threshold
> http://the-threshold.org/gallery/Jeep
> --
> 4x4 Anoraks Offload
> http://anoraks.uk.net
09-24-2003, 07:42 AM
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Re: Jeep Realiability
And it gets lousy gas mileage, while offroad too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Gyp wrote:
>
> Lo Jeepers,
>
> My other half pointed out an article in a local (UK) paper (Daily
> Express). Which quotes from the "Warranty Direct Reliability index"
> which is itself compiled from garage bills of 39k cards with an average
> age of 4.8 years and have a average millage of 49,702 miles.
>
> Top of the table was Mazda with an average repair bill of £275 and a 16%
> failure rate.
> Second is Ford with an average repair bill of £207 and a 32% failure rate
> Third is Honda with an average repair bill of £277 and a 20% failure rate)
>
> Right down at the other end..
> At 21st comes Land Rover with a average repair bill of £420 and a 44%
> repair bill and an average failure rate of 44%
> 22nd comes Subary with a whopping average repair bill of £1040 and a 21%
> repair bill
> and Lastly but not least comes Jeep in 23rd place (last) with an average
> repair bill of £587.92 and an average repair bill of 41%.
>
> Not great recommendation for the Jeep really, although since the highest
> failure rates in the chart being 4x4 related brands it makes me wonder
> quite how much driving an over engineered road vehicle makes sense.
>
> Gyp
>
> --
> Jeep at the Threshold
> http://the-threshold.org/gallery/Jeep
> --
> 4x4 Anoraks Offload
> http://anoraks.uk.net
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Gyp wrote:
>
> Lo Jeepers,
>
> My other half pointed out an article in a local (UK) paper (Daily
> Express). Which quotes from the "Warranty Direct Reliability index"
> which is itself compiled from garage bills of 39k cards with an average
> age of 4.8 years and have a average millage of 49,702 miles.
>
> Top of the table was Mazda with an average repair bill of £275 and a 16%
> failure rate.
> Second is Ford with an average repair bill of £207 and a 32% failure rate
> Third is Honda with an average repair bill of £277 and a 20% failure rate)
>
> Right down at the other end..
> At 21st comes Land Rover with a average repair bill of £420 and a 44%
> repair bill and an average failure rate of 44%
> 22nd comes Subary with a whopping average repair bill of £1040 and a 21%
> repair bill
> and Lastly but not least comes Jeep in 23rd place (last) with an average
> repair bill of £587.92 and an average repair bill of 41%.
>
> Not great recommendation for the Jeep really, although since the highest
> failure rates in the chart being 4x4 related brands it makes me wonder
> quite how much driving an over engineered road vehicle makes sense.
>
> Gyp
>
> --
> Jeep at the Threshold
> http://the-threshold.org/gallery/Jeep
> --
> 4x4 Anoraks Offload
> http://anoraks.uk.net
09-24-2003, 10:04 AM
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Re: Jeep Realiability
I wonder if they were comparing vehicles driven under the same
conditions. I bet not; I would expect a Jeep to be put through much
harder driving conditions. Try taking that #1 reliability ranked
Mazda Miata on the some trails at Moab. I bet it wouldn't have a
lower repair bill than a Jeep...
conditions. I bet not; I would expect a Jeep to be put through much
harder driving conditions. Try taking that #1 reliability ranked
Mazda Miata on the some trails at Moab. I bet it wouldn't have a
lower repair bill than a Jeep...
09-24-2003, 10:04 AM
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Re: Jeep Realiability
I wonder if they were comparing vehicles driven under the same
conditions. I bet not; I would expect a Jeep to be put through much
harder driving conditions. Try taking that #1 reliability ranked
Mazda Miata on the some trails at Moab. I bet it wouldn't have a
lower repair bill than a Jeep...
conditions. I bet not; I would expect a Jeep to be put through much
harder driving conditions. Try taking that #1 reliability ranked
Mazda Miata on the some trails at Moab. I bet it wouldn't have a
lower repair bill than a Jeep...
09-24-2003, 10:28 AM
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Re: Jeep Realiability
There is no question the there are marques that have better reliability
than Jeep. Jeep is essentially a special interest type vehicle. If you
are not interested in doing with your vehicle what the Jeep was built
for, buy another brand. If you are interested in offroading, there are
not many vehicles, anymore, that are as capable offroad as what Jeep has
to offer/offered. Just a matter of buying a vehicle that fits your
intended purpose. JMHO.
Gyp wrote:
> Lo Jeepers,
>
> My other half pointed out an article in a local (UK) paper (Daily
> Express). Which quotes from the "Warranty Direct Reliability index"
> which is itself compiled from garage bills of 39k cards with an average
> age of 4.8 years and have a average millage of 49,702 miles.
>
> Top of the table was Mazda with an average repair bill of £275 and a 16%
> failure rate.
> Second is Ford with an average repair bill of £207 and a 32% failure rate
> Third is Honda with an average repair bill of £277 and a 20% failure rate)
>
> Right down at the other end..
> At 21st comes Land Rover with a average repair bill of £420 and a 44%
> repair bill and an average failure rate of 44%
> 22nd comes Subary with a whopping average repair bill of £1040 and a 21%
> repair bill
> and Lastly but not least comes Jeep in 23rd place (last) with an average
> repair bill of £587.92 and an average repair bill of 41%.
>
>
> Not great recommendation for the Jeep really, although since the highest
> failure rates in the chart being 4x4 related brands it makes me wonder
> quite how much driving an over engineered road vehicle makes sense.
>
> Gyp
>
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than Jeep. Jeep is essentially a special interest type vehicle. If you
are not interested in doing with your vehicle what the Jeep was built
for, buy another brand. If you are interested in offroading, there are
not many vehicles, anymore, that are as capable offroad as what Jeep has
to offer/offered. Just a matter of buying a vehicle that fits your
intended purpose. JMHO.
Gyp wrote:
> Lo Jeepers,
>
> My other half pointed out an article in a local (UK) paper (Daily
> Express). Which quotes from the "Warranty Direct Reliability index"
> which is itself compiled from garage bills of 39k cards with an average
> age of 4.8 years and have a average millage of 49,702 miles.
>
> Top of the table was Mazda with an average repair bill of £275 and a 16%
> failure rate.
> Second is Ford with an average repair bill of £207 and a 32% failure rate
> Third is Honda with an average repair bill of £277 and a 20% failure rate)
>
> Right down at the other end..
> At 21st comes Land Rover with a average repair bill of £420 and a 44%
> repair bill and an average failure rate of 44%
> 22nd comes Subary with a whopping average repair bill of £1040 and a 21%
> repair bill
> and Lastly but not least comes Jeep in 23rd place (last) with an average
> repair bill of £587.92 and an average repair bill of 41%.
>
>
> Not great recommendation for the Jeep really, although since the highest
> failure rates in the chart being 4x4 related brands it makes me wonder
> quite how much driving an over engineered road vehicle makes sense.
>
> Gyp
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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09-24-2003, 10:28 AM
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Re: Jeep Realiability
There is no question the there are marques that have better reliability
than Jeep. Jeep is essentially a special interest type vehicle. If you
are not interested in doing with your vehicle what the Jeep was built
for, buy another brand. If you are interested in offroading, there are
not many vehicles, anymore, that are as capable offroad as what Jeep has
to offer/offered. Just a matter of buying a vehicle that fits your
intended purpose. JMHO.
Gyp wrote:
> Lo Jeepers,
>
> My other half pointed out an article in a local (UK) paper (Daily
> Express). Which quotes from the "Warranty Direct Reliability index"
> which is itself compiled from garage bills of 39k cards with an average
> age of 4.8 years and have a average millage of 49,702 miles.
>
> Top of the table was Mazda with an average repair bill of £275 and a 16%
> failure rate.
> Second is Ford with an average repair bill of £207 and a 32% failure rate
> Third is Honda with an average repair bill of £277 and a 20% failure rate)
>
> Right down at the other end..
> At 21st comes Land Rover with a average repair bill of £420 and a 44%
> repair bill and an average failure rate of 44%
> 22nd comes Subary with a whopping average repair bill of £1040 and a 21%
> repair bill
> and Lastly but not least comes Jeep in 23rd place (last) with an average
> repair bill of £587.92 and an average repair bill of 41%.
>
>
> Not great recommendation for the Jeep really, although since the highest
> failure rates in the chart being 4x4 related brands it makes me wonder
> quite how much driving an over engineered road vehicle makes sense.
>
> Gyp
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
than Jeep. Jeep is essentially a special interest type vehicle. If you
are not interested in doing with your vehicle what the Jeep was built
for, buy another brand. If you are interested in offroading, there are
not many vehicles, anymore, that are as capable offroad as what Jeep has
to offer/offered. Just a matter of buying a vehicle that fits your
intended purpose. JMHO.
Gyp wrote:
> Lo Jeepers,
>
> My other half pointed out an article in a local (UK) paper (Daily
> Express). Which quotes from the "Warranty Direct Reliability index"
> which is itself compiled from garage bills of 39k cards with an average
> age of 4.8 years and have a average millage of 49,702 miles.
>
> Top of the table was Mazda with an average repair bill of £275 and a 16%
> failure rate.
> Second is Ford with an average repair bill of £207 and a 32% failure rate
> Third is Honda with an average repair bill of £277 and a 20% failure rate)
>
> Right down at the other end..
> At 21st comes Land Rover with a average repair bill of £420 and a 44%
> repair bill and an average failure rate of 44%
> 22nd comes Subary with a whopping average repair bill of £1040 and a 21%
> repair bill
> and Lastly but not least comes Jeep in 23rd place (last) with an average
> repair bill of £587.92 and an average repair bill of 41%.
>
>
> Not great recommendation for the Jeep really, although since the highest
> failure rates in the chart being 4x4 related brands it makes me wonder
> quite how much driving an over engineered road vehicle makes sense.
>
> Gyp
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
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09-24-2003, 12:59 PM
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Re: Jeep Realiability
I wonder if there is any connection between pride in ownership and vehicle
repair. You would think that somebody who liked their vehicle would take care
of it more than say....somebody who only used their vehicle for pure
transportation.
Brian
88 YJ
repair. You would think that somebody who liked their vehicle would take care
of it more than say....somebody who only used their vehicle for pure
transportation.
Brian
88 YJ