bouncy front end
05-17-2005, 01:31 PM
#71
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Re: bouncy front end
Well, I'm just telling it as it seems to me, Bill. If my wheels aren't
pointing in the right direction, I can't see how that little damper is going
to do a whole lot for me.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4289F0B4.5702F167@***.net...
> Yes, Daimler engineers are stupid for wasting money putting a
> dampener on every four wheel drive with a live axle.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > I'm with Jerry on this one - my stabiliser leaked out it's oil ages ago
and
> > it made no difference....
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
pointing in the right direction, I can't see how that little damper is going
to do a whole lot for me.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4289F0B4.5702F167@***.net...
> Yes, Daimler engineers are stupid for wasting money putting a
> dampener on every four wheel drive with a live axle.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > I'm with Jerry on this one - my stabiliser leaked out it's oil ages ago
and
> > it made no difference....
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
05-17-2005, 01:31 PM
#72
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Re: bouncy front end
Well, I'm just telling it as it seems to me, Bill. If my wheels aren't
pointing in the right direction, I can't see how that little damper is going
to do a whole lot for me.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4289F0B4.5702F167@***.net...
> Yes, Daimler engineers are stupid for wasting money putting a
> dampener on every four wheel drive with a live axle.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > I'm with Jerry on this one - my stabiliser leaked out it's oil ages ago
and
> > it made no difference....
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
pointing in the right direction, I can't see how that little damper is going
to do a whole lot for me.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4289F0B4.5702F167@***.net...
> Yes, Daimler engineers are stupid for wasting money putting a
> dampener on every four wheel drive with a live axle.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > I'm with Jerry on this one - my stabiliser leaked out it's oil ages ago
and
> > it made no difference....
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
05-17-2005, 01:31 PM
#73
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Re: bouncy front end
Well, I'm just telling it as it seems to me, Bill. If my wheels aren't
pointing in the right direction, I can't see how that little damper is going
to do a whole lot for me.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4289F0B4.5702F167@***.net...
> Yes, Daimler engineers are stupid for wasting money putting a
> dampener on every four wheel drive with a live axle.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > I'm with Jerry on this one - my stabiliser leaked out it's oil ages ago
and
> > it made no difference....
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
pointing in the right direction, I can't see how that little damper is going
to do a whole lot for me.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4289F0B4.5702F167@***.net...
> Yes, Daimler engineers are stupid for wasting money putting a
> dampener on every four wheel drive with a live axle.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > I'm with Jerry on this one - my stabiliser leaked out it's oil ages ago
and
> > it made no difference....
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
05-17-2005, 01:57 PM
#74
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Re: bouncy front end
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> Only to BIll, Robert, only to Bill. It's the only way of writing
that
> Bill understands.
>
I beg to differ. I have disagreed with Bill, and he with me, and we
have hashed out our differences without calling each other names. That
is not to say that one of us has persuaded the other to change
positions, merely that "argument" doesn't have to be nasty. (I can't
tell you how many times in the courtroom that I have essentially
described opposing counsel as a lying, blood sucking scum by using the
words "my esteemed colleague" instead.)
Jerry, we both have Scouting backgrounds. My impression of you has
always been that you, as do I, understand that Scouting is a way of
life and not just about campouts and badges. All I am asking is that
you (and Bill) remember the 4th, 5th and 6th Scout laws.
Robert Bills
[http://www.scouting.org/factsheets/02-503a.html]
>From Merriam-Webster OnLine:
ar·gu·ment
: a reason given in proof or rebuttal
: discourse intended to persuade
ARGUMENTATION a coherent series of statements leading from a premise to
a conclusion
05-17-2005, 01:57 PM
#75
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Re: bouncy front end
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> Only to BIll, Robert, only to Bill. It's the only way of writing
that
> Bill understands.
>
I beg to differ. I have disagreed with Bill, and he with me, and we
have hashed out our differences without calling each other names. That
is not to say that one of us has persuaded the other to change
positions, merely that "argument" doesn't have to be nasty. (I can't
tell you how many times in the courtroom that I have essentially
described opposing counsel as a lying, blood sucking scum by using the
words "my esteemed colleague" instead.)
Jerry, we both have Scouting backgrounds. My impression of you has
always been that you, as do I, understand that Scouting is a way of
life and not just about campouts and badges. All I am asking is that
you (and Bill) remember the 4th, 5th and 6th Scout laws.
Robert Bills
[http://www.scouting.org/factsheets/02-503a.html]
>From Merriam-Webster OnLine:
ar·gu·ment
: a reason given in proof or rebuttal
: discourse intended to persuade
ARGUMENTATION a coherent series of statements leading from a premise to
a conclusion
05-17-2005, 01:57 PM
#76
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Re: bouncy front end
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> Only to BIll, Robert, only to Bill. It's the only way of writing
that
> Bill understands.
>
I beg to differ. I have disagreed with Bill, and he with me, and we
have hashed out our differences without calling each other names. That
is not to say that one of us has persuaded the other to change
positions, merely that "argument" doesn't have to be nasty. (I can't
tell you how many times in the courtroom that I have essentially
described opposing counsel as a lying, blood sucking scum by using the
words "my esteemed colleague" instead.)
Jerry, we both have Scouting backgrounds. My impression of you has
always been that you, as do I, understand that Scouting is a way of
life and not just about campouts and badges. All I am asking is that
you (and Bill) remember the 4th, 5th and 6th Scout laws.
Robert Bills
[http://www.scouting.org/factsheets/02-503a.html]
>From Merriam-Webster OnLine:
ar·gu·ment
: a reason given in proof or rebuttal
: discourse intended to persuade
ARGUMENTATION a coherent series of statements leading from a premise to
a conclusion
05-17-2005, 01:57 PM
#77
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Re: bouncy front end
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> Only to BIll, Robert, only to Bill. It's the only way of writing
that
> Bill understands.
>
I beg to differ. I have disagreed with Bill, and he with me, and we
have hashed out our differences without calling each other names. That
is not to say that one of us has persuaded the other to change
positions, merely that "argument" doesn't have to be nasty. (I can't
tell you how many times in the courtroom that I have essentially
described opposing counsel as a lying, blood sucking scum by using the
words "my esteemed colleague" instead.)
Jerry, we both have Scouting backgrounds. My impression of you has
always been that you, as do I, understand that Scouting is a way of
life and not just about campouts and badges. All I am asking is that
you (and Bill) remember the 4th, 5th and 6th Scout laws.
Robert Bills
[http://www.scouting.org/factsheets/02-503a.html]
>From Merriam-Webster OnLine:
ar·gu·ment
: a reason given in proof or rebuttal
: discourse intended to persuade
ARGUMENTATION a coherent series of statements leading from a premise to
a conclusion
05-17-2005, 05:13 PM
#78
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Re: bouncy front end
And what makes you an expert? Your trials and tribulations on your
"ONE" '97 TJ that are mostly miss leading. I should thank you Jerry,
because you're the only reason I monitor this group, it's to correct
them!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> You think you are "educating" the group? -------- and how egotistical
> of you to say that. Half the stuff you say here is just plain wrong,
> you think you know more than you do. It's laughable how sometimes it's
> just so impossible to explain something to you. Bill, your lack of
> education on many of the subjects here is very apparent but you insist
> on bluffing, huffing and puffing, and bullying tactics to convince the
> newbies you know what you're saying. Having run a gas station many
> years ago makes you qualified to be an expert on nothing except perhaps
> how to run a gas station.. which even towel heads that barely speak
> English seem to do just fine at as well.
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > Meanwhile, I'm educating the group, of course, I don't expect you
> > capable of that realization.
> > And yes, it was my job to know everything related to the
> > automobile, or at least capable of looking it up to get the right
> > answer, as a wrong installation may have killed someone with a faulty
> > brake job or even a wheel alignment that we're talking.
> > UNDERSTAND??????? I doubt it!
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jerry Bransford wrote:
> >
> >>Bill, you're talking to hear yourself speak. None of that has anything
> >>to do with the subject, I guess you're just not able to figure out what
> >>the real subject is. You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut,
> >>because you clearly have no clue on the problem. A typical gas station
> >>guy... thinks he knows everything.
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"ONE" '97 TJ that are mostly miss leading. I should thank you Jerry,
because you're the only reason I monitor this group, it's to correct
them!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> You think you are "educating" the group? -------- and how egotistical
> of you to say that. Half the stuff you say here is just plain wrong,
> you think you know more than you do. It's laughable how sometimes it's
> just so impossible to explain something to you. Bill, your lack of
> education on many of the subjects here is very apparent but you insist
> on bluffing, huffing and puffing, and bullying tactics to convince the
> newbies you know what you're saying. Having run a gas station many
> years ago makes you qualified to be an expert on nothing except perhaps
> how to run a gas station.. which even towel heads that barely speak
> English seem to do just fine at as well.
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > Meanwhile, I'm educating the group, of course, I don't expect you
> > capable of that realization.
> > And yes, it was my job to know everything related to the
> > automobile, or at least capable of looking it up to get the right
> > answer, as a wrong installation may have killed someone with a faulty
> > brake job or even a wheel alignment that we're talking.
> > UNDERSTAND??????? I doubt it!
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jerry Bransford wrote:
> >
> >>Bill, you're talking to hear yourself speak. None of that has anything
> >>to do with the subject, I guess you're just not able to figure out what
> >>the real subject is. You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut,
> >>because you clearly have no clue on the problem. A typical gas station
> >>guy... thinks he knows everything.
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
05-17-2005, 05:13 PM
#79
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Re: bouncy front end
And what makes you an expert? Your trials and tribulations on your
"ONE" '97 TJ that are mostly miss leading. I should thank you Jerry,
because you're the only reason I monitor this group, it's to correct
them!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> You think you are "educating" the group? -------- and how egotistical
> of you to say that. Half the stuff you say here is just plain wrong,
> you think you know more than you do. It's laughable how sometimes it's
> just so impossible to explain something to you. Bill, your lack of
> education on many of the subjects here is very apparent but you insist
> on bluffing, huffing and puffing, and bullying tactics to convince the
> newbies you know what you're saying. Having run a gas station many
> years ago makes you qualified to be an expert on nothing except perhaps
> how to run a gas station.. which even towel heads that barely speak
> English seem to do just fine at as well.
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > Meanwhile, I'm educating the group, of course, I don't expect you
> > capable of that realization.
> > And yes, it was my job to know everything related to the
> > automobile, or at least capable of looking it up to get the right
> > answer, as a wrong installation may have killed someone with a faulty
> > brake job or even a wheel alignment that we're talking.
> > UNDERSTAND??????? I doubt it!
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jerry Bransford wrote:
> >
> >>Bill, you're talking to hear yourself speak. None of that has anything
> >>to do with the subject, I guess you're just not able to figure out what
> >>the real subject is. You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut,
> >>because you clearly have no clue on the problem. A typical gas station
> >>guy... thinks he knows everything.
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"ONE" '97 TJ that are mostly miss leading. I should thank you Jerry,
because you're the only reason I monitor this group, it's to correct
them!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> You think you are "educating" the group? -------- and how egotistical
> of you to say that. Half the stuff you say here is just plain wrong,
> you think you know more than you do. It's laughable how sometimes it's
> just so impossible to explain something to you. Bill, your lack of
> education on many of the subjects here is very apparent but you insist
> on bluffing, huffing and puffing, and bullying tactics to convince the
> newbies you know what you're saying. Having run a gas station many
> years ago makes you qualified to be an expert on nothing except perhaps
> how to run a gas station.. which even towel heads that barely speak
> English seem to do just fine at as well.
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > Meanwhile, I'm educating the group, of course, I don't expect you
> > capable of that realization.
> > And yes, it was my job to know everything related to the
> > automobile, or at least capable of looking it up to get the right
> > answer, as a wrong installation may have killed someone with a faulty
> > brake job or even a wheel alignment that we're talking.
> > UNDERSTAND??????? I doubt it!
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jerry Bransford wrote:
> >
> >>Bill, you're talking to hear yourself speak. None of that has anything
> >>to do with the subject, I guess you're just not able to figure out what
> >>the real subject is. You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut,
> >>because you clearly have no clue on the problem. A typical gas station
> >>guy... thinks he knows everything.
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
05-17-2005, 05:13 PM
#80
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Re: bouncy front end
And what makes you an expert? Your trials and tribulations on your
"ONE" '97 TJ that are mostly miss leading. I should thank you Jerry,
because you're the only reason I monitor this group, it's to correct
them!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> You think you are "educating" the group? -------- and how egotistical
> of you to say that. Half the stuff you say here is just plain wrong,
> you think you know more than you do. It's laughable how sometimes it's
> just so impossible to explain something to you. Bill, your lack of
> education on many of the subjects here is very apparent but you insist
> on bluffing, huffing and puffing, and bullying tactics to convince the
> newbies you know what you're saying. Having run a gas station many
> years ago makes you qualified to be an expert on nothing except perhaps
> how to run a gas station.. which even towel heads that barely speak
> English seem to do just fine at as well.
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > Meanwhile, I'm educating the group, of course, I don't expect you
> > capable of that realization.
> > And yes, it was my job to know everything related to the
> > automobile, or at least capable of looking it up to get the right
> > answer, as a wrong installation may have killed someone with a faulty
> > brake job or even a wheel alignment that we're talking.
> > UNDERSTAND??????? I doubt it!
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jerry Bransford wrote:
> >
> >>Bill, you're talking to hear yourself speak. None of that has anything
> >>to do with the subject, I guess you're just not able to figure out what
> >>the real subject is. You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut,
> >>because you clearly have no clue on the problem. A typical gas station
> >>guy... thinks he knows everything.
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"ONE" '97 TJ that are mostly miss leading. I should thank you Jerry,
because you're the only reason I monitor this group, it's to correct
them!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> You think you are "educating" the group? -------- and how egotistical
> of you to say that. Half the stuff you say here is just plain wrong,
> you think you know more than you do. It's laughable how sometimes it's
> just so impossible to explain something to you. Bill, your lack of
> education on many of the subjects here is very apparent but you insist
> on bluffing, huffing and puffing, and bullying tactics to convince the
> newbies you know what you're saying. Having run a gas station many
> years ago makes you qualified to be an expert on nothing except perhaps
> how to run a gas station.. which even towel heads that barely speak
> English seem to do just fine at as well.
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > Meanwhile, I'm educating the group, of course, I don't expect you
> > capable of that realization.
> > And yes, it was my job to know everything related to the
> > automobile, or at least capable of looking it up to get the right
> > answer, as a wrong installation may have killed someone with a faulty
> > brake job or even a wheel alignment that we're talking.
> > UNDERSTAND??????? I doubt it!
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jerry Bransford wrote:
> >
> >>Bill, you're talking to hear yourself speak. None of that has anything
> >>to do with the subject, I guess you're just not able to figure out what
> >>the real subject is. You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut,
> >>because you clearly have no clue on the problem. A typical gas station
> >>guy... thinks he knows everything.
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
