bouncy front end
#51
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Re: bouncy front end
Ditto here. Mine's been gone for a few years now and never noticed it's
lack. Seem's to me one of the monthlies I was just reading touched on this
subject. Basically if you need a "stabilizer" (IIRC, they said this was a
misnomer), you've got problems elsewhere. It was explained that
stabilizers were never designed to eliminate wobble, shimmy, or anything of
the such. They were there to absorb shock to the steering system and
thereby reduce it's wear and tear. Something along those lines. I'll see
if I can dig up the reference. I completely expect Mr. Bill (Oh noooo!!!!)
to try to twist it around SOME way to make him and only him the correct
party here.
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:1Ahie.33402$G8.22105@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> I'm with Jerry on this one - my stabiliser leaked out it's oil ages ago
and
> it made no difference....
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42896D47.AB193D31@***.net...
> > I have driven the cushy, but extremely bouncy coil suspension for
> > nearly thirty years: http://www.----------.com/bouncingFord.jpg Even
> > with stock dual shocks, like the TJ it's uncontrollable:
> > http://www.----------.com/dualshocks.jpg I've probably forgotten more
> > about my Bear alignment machine training, than you're capable of
> > learning. I think your should put your theory to work by removing your
> > dampener, jerk!
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:--------------------
> >
> > Jerry Bransford wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill knows nothing about the TJ he hates nor its suspension which is
> > > totally different from any Jeep he may have ever owned.. That problem
> > > has nothing to do with the steering stabilizer and if the front-end
were
> > > in good condition, you could even run without the steering stabilizer
> > > which serves as a band-aid when other problems exist.
>
>
lack. Seem's to me one of the monthlies I was just reading touched on this
subject. Basically if you need a "stabilizer" (IIRC, they said this was a
misnomer), you've got problems elsewhere. It was explained that
stabilizers were never designed to eliminate wobble, shimmy, or anything of
the such. They were there to absorb shock to the steering system and
thereby reduce it's wear and tear. Something along those lines. I'll see
if I can dig up the reference. I completely expect Mr. Bill (Oh noooo!!!!)
to try to twist it around SOME way to make him and only him the correct
party here.
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:1Ahie.33402$G8.22105@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> I'm with Jerry on this one - my stabiliser leaked out it's oil ages ago
and
> it made no difference....
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42896D47.AB193D31@***.net...
> > I have driven the cushy, but extremely bouncy coil suspension for
> > nearly thirty years: http://www.----------.com/bouncingFord.jpg Even
> > with stock dual shocks, like the TJ it's uncontrollable:
> > http://www.----------.com/dualshocks.jpg I've probably forgotten more
> > about my Bear alignment machine training, than you're capable of
> > learning. I think your should put your theory to work by removing your
> > dampener, jerk!
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:--------------------
> >
> > Jerry Bransford wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill knows nothing about the TJ he hates nor its suspension which is
> > > totally different from any Jeep he may have ever owned.. That problem
> > > has nothing to do with the steering stabilizer and if the front-end
were
> > > in good condition, you could even run without the steering stabilizer
> > > which serves as a band-aid when other problems exist.
>
>
#52
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Posts: n/a
Re: bouncy front end
Ditto here. Mine's been gone for a few years now and never noticed it's
lack. Seem's to me one of the monthlies I was just reading touched on this
subject. Basically if you need a "stabilizer" (IIRC, they said this was a
misnomer), you've got problems elsewhere. It was explained that
stabilizers were never designed to eliminate wobble, shimmy, or anything of
the such. They were there to absorb shock to the steering system and
thereby reduce it's wear and tear. Something along those lines. I'll see
if I can dig up the reference. I completely expect Mr. Bill (Oh noooo!!!!)
to try to twist it around SOME way to make him and only him the correct
party here.
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:1Ahie.33402$G8.22105@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> I'm with Jerry on this one - my stabiliser leaked out it's oil ages ago
and
> it made no difference....
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42896D47.AB193D31@***.net...
> > I have driven the cushy, but extremely bouncy coil suspension for
> > nearly thirty years: http://www.----------.com/bouncingFord.jpg Even
> > with stock dual shocks, like the TJ it's uncontrollable:
> > http://www.----------.com/dualshocks.jpg I've probably forgotten more
> > about my Bear alignment machine training, than you're capable of
> > learning. I think your should put your theory to work by removing your
> > dampener, jerk!
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:--------------------
> >
> > Jerry Bransford wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill knows nothing about the TJ he hates nor its suspension which is
> > > totally different from any Jeep he may have ever owned.. That problem
> > > has nothing to do with the steering stabilizer and if the front-end
were
> > > in good condition, you could even run without the steering stabilizer
> > > which serves as a band-aid when other problems exist.
>
>
lack. Seem's to me one of the monthlies I was just reading touched on this
subject. Basically if you need a "stabilizer" (IIRC, they said this was a
misnomer), you've got problems elsewhere. It was explained that
stabilizers were never designed to eliminate wobble, shimmy, or anything of
the such. They were there to absorb shock to the steering system and
thereby reduce it's wear and tear. Something along those lines. I'll see
if I can dig up the reference. I completely expect Mr. Bill (Oh noooo!!!!)
to try to twist it around SOME way to make him and only him the correct
party here.
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:1Ahie.33402$G8.22105@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> I'm with Jerry on this one - my stabiliser leaked out it's oil ages ago
and
> it made no difference....
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42896D47.AB193D31@***.net...
> > I have driven the cushy, but extremely bouncy coil suspension for
> > nearly thirty years: http://www.----------.com/bouncingFord.jpg Even
> > with stock dual shocks, like the TJ it's uncontrollable:
> > http://www.----------.com/dualshocks.jpg I've probably forgotten more
> > about my Bear alignment machine training, than you're capable of
> > learning. I think your should put your theory to work by removing your
> > dampener, jerk!
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:--------------------
> >
> > Jerry Bransford wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill knows nothing about the TJ he hates nor its suspension which is
> > > totally different from any Jeep he may have ever owned.. That problem
> > > has nothing to do with the steering stabilizer and if the front-end
were
> > > in good condition, you could even run without the steering stabilizer
> > > which serves as a band-aid when other problems exist.
>
>
#53
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: bouncy front end
Ditto here. Mine's been gone for a few years now and never noticed it's
lack. Seem's to me one of the monthlies I was just reading touched on this
subject. Basically if you need a "stabilizer" (IIRC, they said this was a
misnomer), you've got problems elsewhere. It was explained that
stabilizers were never designed to eliminate wobble, shimmy, or anything of
the such. They were there to absorb shock to the steering system and
thereby reduce it's wear and tear. Something along those lines. I'll see
if I can dig up the reference. I completely expect Mr. Bill (Oh noooo!!!!)
to try to twist it around SOME way to make him and only him the correct
party here.
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:1Ahie.33402$G8.22105@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> I'm with Jerry on this one - my stabiliser leaked out it's oil ages ago
and
> it made no difference....
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42896D47.AB193D31@***.net...
> > I have driven the cushy, but extremely bouncy coil suspension for
> > nearly thirty years: http://www.----------.com/bouncingFord.jpg Even
> > with stock dual shocks, like the TJ it's uncontrollable:
> > http://www.----------.com/dualshocks.jpg I've probably forgotten more
> > about my Bear alignment machine training, than you're capable of
> > learning. I think your should put your theory to work by removing your
> > dampener, jerk!
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:--------------------
> >
> > Jerry Bransford wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill knows nothing about the TJ he hates nor its suspension which is
> > > totally different from any Jeep he may have ever owned.. That problem
> > > has nothing to do with the steering stabilizer and if the front-end
were
> > > in good condition, you could even run without the steering stabilizer
> > > which serves as a band-aid when other problems exist.
>
>
lack. Seem's to me one of the monthlies I was just reading touched on this
subject. Basically if you need a "stabilizer" (IIRC, they said this was a
misnomer), you've got problems elsewhere. It was explained that
stabilizers were never designed to eliminate wobble, shimmy, or anything of
the such. They were there to absorb shock to the steering system and
thereby reduce it's wear and tear. Something along those lines. I'll see
if I can dig up the reference. I completely expect Mr. Bill (Oh noooo!!!!)
to try to twist it around SOME way to make him and only him the correct
party here.
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:1Ahie.33402$G8.22105@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> I'm with Jerry on this one - my stabiliser leaked out it's oil ages ago
and
> it made no difference....
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42896D47.AB193D31@***.net...
> > I have driven the cushy, but extremely bouncy coil suspension for
> > nearly thirty years: http://www.----------.com/bouncingFord.jpg Even
> > with stock dual shocks, like the TJ it's uncontrollable:
> > http://www.----------.com/dualshocks.jpg I've probably forgotten more
> > about my Bear alignment machine training, than you're capable of
> > learning. I think your should put your theory to work by removing your
> > dampener, jerk!
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:--------------------
> >
> > Jerry Bransford wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill knows nothing about the TJ he hates nor its suspension which is
> > > totally different from any Jeep he may have ever owned.. That problem
> > > has nothing to do with the steering stabilizer and if the front-end
were
> > > in good condition, you could even run without the steering stabilizer
> > > which serves as a band-aid when other problems exist.
>
>
#54
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Re: bouncy front end
Tom Greening wrote:
(good stuff deleted) I completely expect Mr. Bill (Oh noooo!!!!)
> to try to twist it around SOME way to make him and only him the correct
> party here.
A very astute observation lol. ;)
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
(good stuff deleted) I completely expect Mr. Bill (Oh noooo!!!!)
> to try to twist it around SOME way to make him and only him the correct
> party here.
A very astute observation lol. ;)
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
#55
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Re: bouncy front end
Tom Greening wrote:
(good stuff deleted) I completely expect Mr. Bill (Oh noooo!!!!)
> to try to twist it around SOME way to make him and only him the correct
> party here.
A very astute observation lol. ;)
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
(good stuff deleted) I completely expect Mr. Bill (Oh noooo!!!!)
> to try to twist it around SOME way to make him and only him the correct
> party here.
A very astute observation lol. ;)
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
#56
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Re: bouncy front end
Tom Greening wrote:
(good stuff deleted) I completely expect Mr. Bill (Oh noooo!!!!)
> to try to twist it around SOME way to make him and only him the correct
> party here.
A very astute observation lol. ;)
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
(good stuff deleted) I completely expect Mr. Bill (Oh noooo!!!!)
> to try to twist it around SOME way to make him and only him the correct
> party here.
A very astute observation lol. ;)
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
#57
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Re: bouncy front end
Tom Greening wrote:
(good stuff deleted) I completely expect Mr. Bill (Oh noooo!!!!)
> to try to twist it around SOME way to make him and only him the correct
> party here.
A very astute observation lol. ;)
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
(good stuff deleted) I completely expect Mr. Bill (Oh noooo!!!!)
> to try to twist it around SOME way to make him and only him the correct
> party here.
A very astute observation lol. ;)
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
#58
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Re: bouncy front end
It appears he equates his ability to find information on a subject
(sometimes impressive, sometimes not) to being an expert on said subject.
I'll freely admit he has an impressive list of useful links but in all
honesty I got tired of his need to comment on probably 75% +/- of the daily
posts, just so he can post some link to some tidbit and thereby reaffirm his
supremacy as the Link King. IOW, he talks too damn much. I've just
recently discovered the joy of the Block function and it seems the signal to
noise ratio has been greatly improved.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:Baoie.6882$Db6.1443@okepread05...
> Tom Greening wrote:
> (good stuff deleted) I completely expect Mr. Bill (Oh noooo!!!!)
> > to try to twist it around SOME way to make him and only him the correct
> > party here.
>
> A very astute observation lol. ;)
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
(sometimes impressive, sometimes not) to being an expert on said subject.
I'll freely admit he has an impressive list of useful links but in all
honesty I got tired of his need to comment on probably 75% +/- of the daily
posts, just so he can post some link to some tidbit and thereby reaffirm his
supremacy as the Link King. IOW, he talks too damn much. I've just
recently discovered the joy of the Block function and it seems the signal to
noise ratio has been greatly improved.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:Baoie.6882$Db6.1443@okepread05...
> Tom Greening wrote:
> (good stuff deleted) I completely expect Mr. Bill (Oh noooo!!!!)
> > to try to twist it around SOME way to make him and only him the correct
> > party here.
>
> A very astute observation lol. ;)
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
#59
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: bouncy front end
It appears he equates his ability to find information on a subject
(sometimes impressive, sometimes not) to being an expert on said subject.
I'll freely admit he has an impressive list of useful links but in all
honesty I got tired of his need to comment on probably 75% +/- of the daily
posts, just so he can post some link to some tidbit and thereby reaffirm his
supremacy as the Link King. IOW, he talks too damn much. I've just
recently discovered the joy of the Block function and it seems the signal to
noise ratio has been greatly improved.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:Baoie.6882$Db6.1443@okepread05...
> Tom Greening wrote:
> (good stuff deleted) I completely expect Mr. Bill (Oh noooo!!!!)
> > to try to twist it around SOME way to make him and only him the correct
> > party here.
>
> A very astute observation lol. ;)
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
(sometimes impressive, sometimes not) to being an expert on said subject.
I'll freely admit he has an impressive list of useful links but in all
honesty I got tired of his need to comment on probably 75% +/- of the daily
posts, just so he can post some link to some tidbit and thereby reaffirm his
supremacy as the Link King. IOW, he talks too damn much. I've just
recently discovered the joy of the Block function and it seems the signal to
noise ratio has been greatly improved.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:Baoie.6882$Db6.1443@okepread05...
> Tom Greening wrote:
> (good stuff deleted) I completely expect Mr. Bill (Oh noooo!!!!)
> > to try to twist it around SOME way to make him and only him the correct
> > party here.
>
> A very astute observation lol. ;)
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
#60
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: bouncy front end
It appears he equates his ability to find information on a subject
(sometimes impressive, sometimes not) to being an expert on said subject.
I'll freely admit he has an impressive list of useful links but in all
honesty I got tired of his need to comment on probably 75% +/- of the daily
posts, just so he can post some link to some tidbit and thereby reaffirm his
supremacy as the Link King. IOW, he talks too damn much. I've just
recently discovered the joy of the Block function and it seems the signal to
noise ratio has been greatly improved.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:Baoie.6882$Db6.1443@okepread05...
> Tom Greening wrote:
> (good stuff deleted) I completely expect Mr. Bill (Oh noooo!!!!)
> > to try to twist it around SOME way to make him and only him the correct
> > party here.
>
> A very astute observation lol. ;)
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
(sometimes impressive, sometimes not) to being an expert on said subject.
I'll freely admit he has an impressive list of useful links but in all
honesty I got tired of his need to comment on probably 75% +/- of the daily
posts, just so he can post some link to some tidbit and thereby reaffirm his
supremacy as the Link King. IOW, he talks too damn much. I've just
recently discovered the joy of the Block function and it seems the signal to
noise ratio has been greatly improved.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:Baoie.6882$Db6.1443@okepread05...
> Tom Greening wrote:
> (good stuff deleted) I completely expect Mr. Bill (Oh noooo!!!!)
> > to try to twist it around SOME way to make him and only him the correct
> > party here.
>
> A very astute observation lol. ;)
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/