bouncy front end
05-17-2005, 12:43 AM
#31
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Re: bouncy front end
Bill, you're talking to hear yourself speak. None of that has anything
to do with the subject, I guess you're just not able to figure out what
the real subject is. You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut,
because you clearly have no clue on the problem. A typical gas station
guy... thinks he knows everything.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Except when it comes to putting a bubble one the rim, the camber,
> castor, and even the toe-in are measured in degrees, just the same way
> as they've always been: http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg And on
> that machine come the tools for bending a straight axle back into
> alignment. Learn something?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
>>Whatever you say Bill, whatever you say... (and you should know that
>>your Bear alignment machine training has zilch bearing on this subject)
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
to do with the subject, I guess you're just not able to figure out what
the real subject is. You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut,
because you clearly have no clue on the problem. A typical gas station
guy... thinks he knows everything.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Except when it comes to putting a bubble one the rim, the camber,
> castor, and even the toe-in are measured in degrees, just the same way
> as they've always been: http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg And on
> that machine come the tools for bending a straight axle back into
> alignment. Learn something?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
>>Whatever you say Bill, whatever you say... (and you should know that
>>your Bear alignment machine training has zilch bearing on this subject)
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
05-17-2005, 12:43 AM
#32
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Re: bouncy front end
Bill, you're talking to hear yourself speak. None of that has anything
to do with the subject, I guess you're just not able to figure out what
the real subject is. You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut,
because you clearly have no clue on the problem. A typical gas station
guy... thinks he knows everything.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Except when it comes to putting a bubble one the rim, the camber,
> castor, and even the toe-in are measured in degrees, just the same way
> as they've always been: http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg And on
> that machine come the tools for bending a straight axle back into
> alignment. Learn something?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
>>Whatever you say Bill, whatever you say... (and you should know that
>>your Bear alignment machine training has zilch bearing on this subject)
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
to do with the subject, I guess you're just not able to figure out what
the real subject is. You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut,
because you clearly have no clue on the problem. A typical gas station
guy... thinks he knows everything.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Except when it comes to putting a bubble one the rim, the camber,
> castor, and even the toe-in are measured in degrees, just the same way
> as they've always been: http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg And on
> that machine come the tools for bending a straight axle back into
> alignment. Learn something?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
>>Whatever you say Bill, whatever you say... (and you should know that
>>your Bear alignment machine training has zilch bearing on this subject)
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
05-17-2005, 12:43 AM
#33
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Re: bouncy front end
Bill, you're talking to hear yourself speak. None of that has anything
to do with the subject, I guess you're just not able to figure out what
the real subject is. You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut,
because you clearly have no clue on the problem. A typical gas station
guy... thinks he knows everything.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Except when it comes to putting a bubble one the rim, the camber,
> castor, and even the toe-in are measured in degrees, just the same way
> as they've always been: http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg And on
> that machine come the tools for bending a straight axle back into
> alignment. Learn something?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
>>Whatever you say Bill, whatever you say... (and you should know that
>>your Bear alignment machine training has zilch bearing on this subject)
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
to do with the subject, I guess you're just not able to figure out what
the real subject is. You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut,
because you clearly have no clue on the problem. A typical gas station
guy... thinks he knows everything.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Except when it comes to putting a bubble one the rim, the camber,
> castor, and even the toe-in are measured in degrees, just the same way
> as they've always been: http://www.----------.com/alignment.jpg And on
> that machine come the tools for bending a straight axle back into
> alignment. Learn something?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
>>Whatever you say Bill, whatever you say... (and you should know that
>>your Bear alignment machine training has zilch bearing on this subject)
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
05-17-2005, 01:24 AM
#34
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Re: bouncy front end
Meanwhile, I'm educating the group, of course, I don't expect you
capable of that realization.
And yes, it was my job to know everything related to the
automobile, or at least capable of looking it up to get the right
answer, as a wrong installation may have killed someone with a faulty
brake job or even a wheel alignment that we're talking.
UNDERSTAND??????? I doubt it!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> Bill, you're talking to hear yourself speak. None of that has anything
> to do with the subject, I guess you're just not able to figure out what
> the real subject is. You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut,
> because you clearly have no clue on the problem. A typical gas station
> guy... thinks he knows everything.
capable of that realization.
And yes, it was my job to know everything related to the
automobile, or at least capable of looking it up to get the right
answer, as a wrong installation may have killed someone with a faulty
brake job or even a wheel alignment that we're talking.
UNDERSTAND??????? I doubt it!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> Bill, you're talking to hear yourself speak. None of that has anything
> to do with the subject, I guess you're just not able to figure out what
> the real subject is. You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut,
> because you clearly have no clue on the problem. A typical gas station
> guy... thinks he knows everything.
05-17-2005, 01:24 AM
#35
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Re: bouncy front end
Meanwhile, I'm educating the group, of course, I don't expect you
capable of that realization.
And yes, it was my job to know everything related to the
automobile, or at least capable of looking it up to get the right
answer, as a wrong installation may have killed someone with a faulty
brake job or even a wheel alignment that we're talking.
UNDERSTAND??????? I doubt it!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> Bill, you're talking to hear yourself speak. None of that has anything
> to do with the subject, I guess you're just not able to figure out what
> the real subject is. You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut,
> because you clearly have no clue on the problem. A typical gas station
> guy... thinks he knows everything.
capable of that realization.
And yes, it was my job to know everything related to the
automobile, or at least capable of looking it up to get the right
answer, as a wrong installation may have killed someone with a faulty
brake job or even a wheel alignment that we're talking.
UNDERSTAND??????? I doubt it!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> Bill, you're talking to hear yourself speak. None of that has anything
> to do with the subject, I guess you're just not able to figure out what
> the real subject is. You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut,
> because you clearly have no clue on the problem. A typical gas station
> guy... thinks he knows everything.
05-17-2005, 01:24 AM
#36
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Re: bouncy front end
Meanwhile, I'm educating the group, of course, I don't expect you
capable of that realization.
And yes, it was my job to know everything related to the
automobile, or at least capable of looking it up to get the right
answer, as a wrong installation may have killed someone with a faulty
brake job or even a wheel alignment that we're talking.
UNDERSTAND??????? I doubt it!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> Bill, you're talking to hear yourself speak. None of that has anything
> to do with the subject, I guess you're just not able to figure out what
> the real subject is. You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut,
> because you clearly have no clue on the problem. A typical gas station
> guy... thinks he knows everything.
capable of that realization.
And yes, it was my job to know everything related to the
automobile, or at least capable of looking it up to get the right
answer, as a wrong installation may have killed someone with a faulty
brake job or even a wheel alignment that we're talking.
UNDERSTAND??????? I doubt it!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> Bill, you're talking to hear yourself speak. None of that has anything
> to do with the subject, I guess you're just not able to figure out what
> the real subject is. You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut,
> because you clearly have no clue on the problem. A typical gas station
> guy... thinks he knows everything.
05-17-2005, 01:24 AM
#37
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Re: bouncy front end
Meanwhile, I'm educating the group, of course, I don't expect you
capable of that realization.
And yes, it was my job to know everything related to the
automobile, or at least capable of looking it up to get the right
answer, as a wrong installation may have killed someone with a faulty
brake job or even a wheel alignment that we're talking.
UNDERSTAND??????? I doubt it!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> Bill, you're talking to hear yourself speak. None of that has anything
> to do with the subject, I guess you're just not able to figure out what
> the real subject is. You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut,
> because you clearly have no clue on the problem. A typical gas station
> guy... thinks he knows everything.
capable of that realization.
And yes, it was my job to know everything related to the
automobile, or at least capable of looking it up to get the right
answer, as a wrong installation may have killed someone with a faulty
brake job or even a wheel alignment that we're talking.
UNDERSTAND??????? I doubt it!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> Bill, you're talking to hear yourself speak. None of that has anything
> to do with the subject, I guess you're just not able to figure out what
> the real subject is. You just don't know when to keep your mouth shut,
> because you clearly have no clue on the problem. A typical gas station
> guy... thinks he knows everything.
05-17-2005, 04:04 AM
#38
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Re: bouncy front end
I'm with Jerry on this one - my stabiliser leaked out it's oil ages ago and
it made no difference....
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42896D47.AB193D31@***.net...
> I have driven the cushy, but extremely bouncy coil suspension for
> nearly thirty years: http://www.----------.com/bouncingFord.jpg Even
> with stock dual shocks, like the TJ it's uncontrollable:
> http://www.----------.com/dualshocks.jpg I've probably forgotten more
> about my Bear alignment machine training, than you're capable of
> learning. I think your should put your theory to work by removing your
> dampener, jerk!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> >
> > Bill knows nothing about the TJ he hates nor its suspension which is
> > totally different from any Jeep he may have ever owned.. That problem
> > has nothing to do with the steering stabilizer and if the front-end were
> > in good condition, you could even run without the steering stabilizer
> > which serves as a band-aid when other problems exist.
it made no difference....
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42896D47.AB193D31@***.net...
> I have driven the cushy, but extremely bouncy coil suspension for
> nearly thirty years: http://www.----------.com/bouncingFord.jpg Even
> with stock dual shocks, like the TJ it's uncontrollable:
> http://www.----------.com/dualshocks.jpg I've probably forgotten more
> about my Bear alignment machine training, than you're capable of
> learning. I think your should put your theory to work by removing your
> dampener, jerk!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> >
> > Bill knows nothing about the TJ he hates nor its suspension which is
> > totally different from any Jeep he may have ever owned.. That problem
> > has nothing to do with the steering stabilizer and if the front-end were
> > in good condition, you could even run without the steering stabilizer
> > which serves as a band-aid when other problems exist.
05-17-2005, 04:04 AM
#39
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Re: bouncy front end
I'm with Jerry on this one - my stabiliser leaked out it's oil ages ago and
it made no difference....
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42896D47.AB193D31@***.net...
> I have driven the cushy, but extremely bouncy coil suspension for
> nearly thirty years: http://www.----------.com/bouncingFord.jpg Even
> with stock dual shocks, like the TJ it's uncontrollable:
> http://www.----------.com/dualshocks.jpg I've probably forgotten more
> about my Bear alignment machine training, than you're capable of
> learning. I think your should put your theory to work by removing your
> dampener, jerk!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> >
> > Bill knows nothing about the TJ he hates nor its suspension which is
> > totally different from any Jeep he may have ever owned.. That problem
> > has nothing to do with the steering stabilizer and if the front-end were
> > in good condition, you could even run without the steering stabilizer
> > which serves as a band-aid when other problems exist.
it made no difference....
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42896D47.AB193D31@***.net...
> I have driven the cushy, but extremely bouncy coil suspension for
> nearly thirty years: http://www.----------.com/bouncingFord.jpg Even
> with stock dual shocks, like the TJ it's uncontrollable:
> http://www.----------.com/dualshocks.jpg I've probably forgotten more
> about my Bear alignment machine training, than you're capable of
> learning. I think your should put your theory to work by removing your
> dampener, jerk!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> >
> > Bill knows nothing about the TJ he hates nor its suspension which is
> > totally different from any Jeep he may have ever owned.. That problem
> > has nothing to do with the steering stabilizer and if the front-end were
> > in good condition, you could even run without the steering stabilizer
> > which serves as a band-aid when other problems exist.
05-17-2005, 04:04 AM
#40
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Re: bouncy front end
I'm with Jerry on this one - my stabiliser leaked out it's oil ages ago and
it made no difference....
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42896D47.AB193D31@***.net...
> I have driven the cushy, but extremely bouncy coil suspension for
> nearly thirty years: http://www.----------.com/bouncingFord.jpg Even
> with stock dual shocks, like the TJ it's uncontrollable:
> http://www.----------.com/dualshocks.jpg I've probably forgotten more
> about my Bear alignment machine training, than you're capable of
> learning. I think your should put your theory to work by removing your
> dampener, jerk!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> >
> > Bill knows nothing about the TJ he hates nor its suspension which is
> > totally different from any Jeep he may have ever owned.. That problem
> > has nothing to do with the steering stabilizer and if the front-end were
> > in good condition, you could even run without the steering stabilizer
> > which serves as a band-aid when other problems exist.
it made no difference....
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42896D47.AB193D31@***.net...
> I have driven the cushy, but extremely bouncy coil suspension for
> nearly thirty years: http://www.----------.com/bouncingFord.jpg Even
> with stock dual shocks, like the TJ it's uncontrollable:
> http://www.----------.com/dualshocks.jpg I've probably forgotten more
> about my Bear alignment machine training, than you're capable of
> learning. I think your should put your theory to work by removing your
> dampener, jerk!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> >
> > Bill knows nothing about the TJ he hates nor its suspension which is
> > totally different from any Jeep he may have ever owned.. That problem
> > has nothing to do with the steering stabilizer and if the front-end were
> > in good condition, you could even run without the steering stabilizer
> > which serves as a band-aid when other problems exist.
