Superwinch = junk
09-03-2003, 12:56 PM
#11
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Re: Superwinch = junk
A ****** block may of been a good option for Joshua when he was stuck.
Winch was underpowered but a pulley would of given him double the pulling
power and/or could of been used to help pull from a different direction or
angle. Not the first choice, but a ****** block does open options that all
sound better than walking home through knee deep mud.
"Nathan W. Collier" <JeepTalk@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
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> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F560D89.FAFA7C85@sympatico.ca...
> > I have stalled my Warn 9000 with only a short pull. Had to back up a
> > ways to get more line out to have more pulling power.
>
> hi mike,
> im surprised you dont carry a ****** block.
>
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
>
>
Winch was underpowered but a pulley would of given him double the pulling
power and/or could of been used to help pull from a different direction or
angle. Not the first choice, but a ****** block does open options that all
sound better than walking home through knee deep mud.
"Nathan W. Collier" <JeepTalk@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:CZo5b.48899$5H4.2284921@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F560D89.FAFA7C85@sympatico.ca...
> > I have stalled my Warn 9000 with only a short pull. Had to back up a
> > ways to get more line out to have more pulling power.
>
> hi mike,
> im surprised you dont carry a ****** block.
>
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
>
>
09-03-2003, 01:06 PM
#12
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Re: Superwinch = junk
Every time I hear "****** block" I think chastity belt. Why don't they
just call it a "winch pully"?
Don
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Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F560D89.FAFA7C85@sympatico.ca...
>
>>I have stalled my Warn 9000 with only a short pull. Had to back up a
>>ways to get more line out to have more pulling power.
>
>
> hi mike,
> im surprised you dont carry a ****** block.
>
>
just call it a "winch pully"?
Don
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F560D89.FAFA7C85@sympatico.ca...
>
>>I have stalled my Warn 9000 with only a short pull. Had to back up a
>>ways to get more line out to have more pulling power.
>
>
> hi mike,
> im surprised you dont carry a ****** block.
>
>
09-03-2003, 01:06 PM
#13
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Re: Superwinch = junk
Every time I hear "****** block" I think chastity belt. Why don't they
just call it a "winch pully"?
Don
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F560D89.FAFA7C85@sympatico.ca...
>
>>I have stalled my Warn 9000 with only a short pull. Had to back up a
>>ways to get more line out to have more pulling power.
>
>
> hi mike,
> im surprised you dont carry a ****** block.
>
>
just call it a "winch pully"?
Don
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F560D89.FAFA7C85@sympatico.ca...
>
>>I have stalled my Warn 9000 with only a short pull. Had to back up a
>>ways to get more line out to have more pulling power.
>
>
> hi mike,
> im surprised you dont carry a ****** block.
>
>
09-03-2003, 01:26 PM
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Re: Superwinch = junk
Joshua Nelson wrote:
> I recently bought a Superwinch 4500 from the quadratec catalog for a
> new TJ. The TJ in question is a more or less stock SE, so it's not
> super-capable off road and I expected the winch would see a fair
> amount of use. Well with the recent rain we've had it didn't take me
> too long to get the SE sunk up to its axles in mud. No problem, I'll
> just use the winch to pull me the rest of the way up the hill, right?
>
> Fat chance. The so-called "4500 pound winch" balked at even pulling
> my ~2700 lb TJ one inch. What a piece of junk! Hopefully I can get
> the store to take it back and give me a different brand. I had heard
> before tat I should have bought a Warn, but I tried to save a few
> bucks. I guess you get what you pay for!
That's 4500 lbs on a flat road, and only close to the end of the spool.
An incline would add friction and resistance and so downgrade the amount
it could pull.
Being stuck in the mud adds a HELL of a lot more friction and
resistance. As others have pointed out, the effective weight of your rig
can more than double in such a circumstance. You bought too small of a
winch. If you had a ****** block, you could have doubled the pulling
power of your winch. A Warn 4500 lb winch wouldn't fare any better. Go
back, return the winch, get a bigger one (9500 lbs) and get a heavy duty
****** block.
You're welcome!
> I recently bought a Superwinch 4500 from the quadratec catalog for a
> new TJ. The TJ in question is a more or less stock SE, so it's not
> super-capable off road and I expected the winch would see a fair
> amount of use. Well with the recent rain we've had it didn't take me
> too long to get the SE sunk up to its axles in mud. No problem, I'll
> just use the winch to pull me the rest of the way up the hill, right?
>
> Fat chance. The so-called "4500 pound winch" balked at even pulling
> my ~2700 lb TJ one inch. What a piece of junk! Hopefully I can get
> the store to take it back and give me a different brand. I had heard
> before tat I should have bought a Warn, but I tried to save a few
> bucks. I guess you get what you pay for!
That's 4500 lbs on a flat road, and only close to the end of the spool.
An incline would add friction and resistance and so downgrade the amount
it could pull.
Being stuck in the mud adds a HELL of a lot more friction and
resistance. As others have pointed out, the effective weight of your rig
can more than double in such a circumstance. You bought too small of a
winch. If you had a ****** block, you could have doubled the pulling
power of your winch. A Warn 4500 lb winch wouldn't fare any better. Go
back, return the winch, get a bigger one (9500 lbs) and get a heavy duty
****** block.
You're welcome!
09-03-2003, 01:26 PM
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Re: Superwinch = junk
Joshua Nelson wrote:
> I recently bought a Superwinch 4500 from the quadratec catalog for a
> new TJ. The TJ in question is a more or less stock SE, so it's not
> super-capable off road and I expected the winch would see a fair
> amount of use. Well with the recent rain we've had it didn't take me
> too long to get the SE sunk up to its axles in mud. No problem, I'll
> just use the winch to pull me the rest of the way up the hill, right?
>
> Fat chance. The so-called "4500 pound winch" balked at even pulling
> my ~2700 lb TJ one inch. What a piece of junk! Hopefully I can get
> the store to take it back and give me a different brand. I had heard
> before tat I should have bought a Warn, but I tried to save a few
> bucks. I guess you get what you pay for!
That's 4500 lbs on a flat road, and only close to the end of the spool.
An incline would add friction and resistance and so downgrade the amount
it could pull.
Being stuck in the mud adds a HELL of a lot more friction and
resistance. As others have pointed out, the effective weight of your rig
can more than double in such a circumstance. You bought too small of a
winch. If you had a ****** block, you could have doubled the pulling
power of your winch. A Warn 4500 lb winch wouldn't fare any better. Go
back, return the winch, get a bigger one (9500 lbs) and get a heavy duty
****** block.
You're welcome!
> I recently bought a Superwinch 4500 from the quadratec catalog for a
> new TJ. The TJ in question is a more or less stock SE, so it's not
> super-capable off road and I expected the winch would see a fair
> amount of use. Well with the recent rain we've had it didn't take me
> too long to get the SE sunk up to its axles in mud. No problem, I'll
> just use the winch to pull me the rest of the way up the hill, right?
>
> Fat chance. The so-called "4500 pound winch" balked at even pulling
> my ~2700 lb TJ one inch. What a piece of junk! Hopefully I can get
> the store to take it back and give me a different brand. I had heard
> before tat I should have bought a Warn, but I tried to save a few
> bucks. I guess you get what you pay for!
That's 4500 lbs on a flat road, and only close to the end of the spool.
An incline would add friction and resistance and so downgrade the amount
it could pull.
Being stuck in the mud adds a HELL of a lot more friction and
resistance. As others have pointed out, the effective weight of your rig
can more than double in such a circumstance. You bought too small of a
winch. If you had a ****** block, you could have doubled the pulling
power of your winch. A Warn 4500 lb winch wouldn't fare any better. Go
back, return the winch, get a bigger one (9500 lbs) and get a heavy duty
****** block.
You're welcome!
09-03-2003, 02:33 PM
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Re: Superwinch = junk
You need at least an 8000# winch to recover a TJ.
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309030717.3a55f2b4@posting.google.c om...
> I recently bought a Superwinch 4500 from the quadratec catalog for a
> new TJ. The TJ in question is a more or less stock SE, so it's not
> super-capable off road and I expected the winch would see a fair
> amount of use. Well with the recent rain we've had it didn't take me
> too long to get the SE sunk up to its axles in mud. No problem, I'll
> just use the winch to pull me the rest of the way up the hill, right?
>
> Fat chance. The so-called "4500 pound winch" balked at even pulling
> my ~2700 lb TJ one inch. What a piece of junk! Hopefully I can get
> the store to take it back and give me a different brand. I had heard
> before tat I should have bought a Warn, but I tried to save a few
> bucks. I guess you get what you pay for!
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309030717.3a55f2b4@posting.google.c om...
> I recently bought a Superwinch 4500 from the quadratec catalog for a
> new TJ. The TJ in question is a more or less stock SE, so it's not
> super-capable off road and I expected the winch would see a fair
> amount of use. Well with the recent rain we've had it didn't take me
> too long to get the SE sunk up to its axles in mud. No problem, I'll
> just use the winch to pull me the rest of the way up the hill, right?
>
> Fat chance. The so-called "4500 pound winch" balked at even pulling
> my ~2700 lb TJ one inch. What a piece of junk! Hopefully I can get
> the store to take it back and give me a different brand. I had heard
> before tat I should have bought a Warn, but I tried to save a few
> bucks. I guess you get what you pay for!
09-03-2003, 02:33 PM
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Re: Superwinch = junk
You need at least an 8000# winch to recover a TJ.
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309030717.3a55f2b4@posting.google.c om...
> I recently bought a Superwinch 4500 from the quadratec catalog for a
> new TJ. The TJ in question is a more or less stock SE, so it's not
> super-capable off road and I expected the winch would see a fair
> amount of use. Well with the recent rain we've had it didn't take me
> too long to get the SE sunk up to its axles in mud. No problem, I'll
> just use the winch to pull me the rest of the way up the hill, right?
>
> Fat chance. The so-called "4500 pound winch" balked at even pulling
> my ~2700 lb TJ one inch. What a piece of junk! Hopefully I can get
> the store to take it back and give me a different brand. I had heard
> before tat I should have bought a Warn, but I tried to save a few
> bucks. I guess you get what you pay for!
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309030717.3a55f2b4@posting.google.c om...
> I recently bought a Superwinch 4500 from the quadratec catalog for a
> new TJ. The TJ in question is a more or less stock SE, so it's not
> super-capable off road and I expected the winch would see a fair
> amount of use. Well with the recent rain we've had it didn't take me
> too long to get the SE sunk up to its axles in mud. No problem, I'll
> just use the winch to pull me the rest of the way up the hill, right?
>
> Fat chance. The so-called "4500 pound winch" balked at even pulling
> my ~2700 lb TJ one inch. What a piece of junk! Hopefully I can get
> the store to take it back and give me a different brand. I had heard
> before tat I should have bought a Warn, but I tried to save a few
> bucks. I guess you get what you pay for!
09-03-2003, 02:56 PM
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Re: Superwinch = junk
"Joshua Nelson" wrote ...
> Well with the recent rain we've had it didn't take me
> too long to get the SE sunk up to its axles in mud.
Only stuck up to your axles? That's not very stuck... I've had my XJ stuck
up to the top of my 31x10.50s... Wrapped a strap around a small tree / shrub
and hooked the cable to it and my Milemarker pulled me right out of it...
Maybe you should have gotten a larger rated winch...
> Well with the recent rain we've had it didn't take me
> too long to get the SE sunk up to its axles in mud.
Only stuck up to your axles? That's not very stuck... I've had my XJ stuck
up to the top of my 31x10.50s... Wrapped a strap around a small tree / shrub
and hooked the cable to it and my Milemarker pulled me right out of it...
Maybe you should have gotten a larger rated winch...
09-03-2003, 02:56 PM
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Re: Superwinch = junk
"Joshua Nelson" wrote ...
> Well with the recent rain we've had it didn't take me
> too long to get the SE sunk up to its axles in mud.
Only stuck up to your axles? That's not very stuck... I've had my XJ stuck
up to the top of my 31x10.50s... Wrapped a strap around a small tree / shrub
and hooked the cable to it and my Milemarker pulled me right out of it...
Maybe you should have gotten a larger rated winch...
> Well with the recent rain we've had it didn't take me
> too long to get the SE sunk up to its axles in mud.
Only stuck up to your axles? That's not very stuck... I've had my XJ stuck
up to the top of my 31x10.50s... Wrapped a strap around a small tree / shrub
and hooked the cable to it and my Milemarker pulled me right out of it...
Maybe you should have gotten a larger rated winch...
09-03-2003, 04:03 PM
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Re: Superwinch = junk
With the emphasis on "at least"! You should have a "****** block" or "winch
pulley" to double your pulling power if you need to, also.
"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vlcd2ir6a3efe9@corp.supernews.com...
> You need at least an 8000# winch to recover a TJ.
>
>
>
>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0309030717.3a55f2b4@posting.google.c om...
> > I recently bought a Superwinch 4500 from the quadratec catalog for a
> > new TJ. The TJ in question is a more or less stock SE, so it's not
> > super-capable off road and I expected the winch would see a fair
> > amount of use. Well with the recent rain we've had it didn't take me
> > too long to get the SE sunk up to its axles in mud. No problem, I'll
> > just use the winch to pull me the rest of the way up the hill, right?
> >
> > Fat chance. The so-called "4500 pound winch" balked at even pulling
> > my ~2700 lb TJ one inch. What a piece of junk! Hopefully I can get
> > the store to take it back and give me a different brand. I had heard
> > before tat I should have bought a Warn, but I tried to save a few
> > bucks. I guess you get what you pay for!
>
>
pulley" to double your pulling power if you need to, also.
"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vlcd2ir6a3efe9@corp.supernews.com...
> You need at least an 8000# winch to recover a TJ.
>
>
>
>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0309030717.3a55f2b4@posting.google.c om...
> > I recently bought a Superwinch 4500 from the quadratec catalog for a
> > new TJ. The TJ in question is a more or less stock SE, so it's not
> > super-capable off road and I expected the winch would see a fair
> > amount of use. Well with the recent rain we've had it didn't take me
> > too long to get the SE sunk up to its axles in mud. No problem, I'll
> > just use the winch to pull me the rest of the way up the hill, right?
> >
> > Fat chance. The so-called "4500 pound winch" balked at even pulling
> > my ~2700 lb TJ one inch. What a piece of junk! Hopefully I can get
> > the store to take it back and give me a different brand. I had heard
> > before tat I should have bought a Warn, but I tried to save a few
> > bucks. I guess you get what you pay for!
>
>
