Re: What kind of gas?
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Re: What kind of gas?
Yup, for sure like I mentioned with my Cherokee.
Mike
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> You have a special case with CJ though, just as I have a special case. The
> original poster asked which gas to use in a TJ with a 6 and an automatic. He
> needs regular.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F620CB9.6D227B40@sympatico.ca...
> > I tested various grades in my CJ7 on a 4600 mile road trip. I have no
> > working gas gauge and have to use the odometer so pay 'close' attention
> > to mileage. (and keep a full gas container with me) ;-)
> >
> > In my case, my CJ with a 'tweaked' 258 needs high test gas with no
> > alcohol. 100 miles+ extra per tank over regular or 'any' grade of
> > alcohol mix. My Cherokee runs best on 'any' type of regular, we take
> > that on lots of long driving trips too. It don't care one bit what type
> > of regular goes in, it's mileage is pretty consistent. High test lowers
> > the mileage and power if it does anything at all.
> >
> > Gas mileage tells all!
> >
> > Well... bogging out at 65 mph on an alcohol mix kinda says something
> > too... ;-)
> >
> > Feel free to experiment, I sure did and benefited big time on one Jeep.
> > :-)
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Jeff Strickland wrote:
> > >
> > > All of this could be true, but it is not in the context of the original
> > > question, which came from a guy that just bought a Jeep an dasked what
> kind
> > > of gas it needs. The correct answer is that it needs Regular.
> > >
> > > Now, the variation on that answer is that some people might be tempted
> to
> > > put High Test in for a road trip, and I conceed the point that there
> could
> > > be some obscure advantage. But, the people that actually test these
> kinds of
> > > things say that even for a road trip, there is no particular advantage
> of
> > > using Premium fuel. This brings us back to the first correct answer,
> Regular
> > > is what it needs.
> > >
> > > "David Harmon" <source@netcom.com> wrote in message
> > > news:3f611f81.737138@news.west.earthlink.net...
> > > > On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 13:07:41 -0700 in rec.autos.makers.jeep+******,
> > > > "Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> is alleged to have written:
> > > >
> > > > >I think that we have tons of data to show that there is no advantage
> of
> > > > >running high test in a motor that is designed for regular. I can't
> image
> > > > >what possible advantage there might be on a road trip, but if one
> wanted
> > > to
> > > > >waste money somewhere, they may as well waste it on a road trip. I
> assume
> > > >
> > > > I can imagine several possible advantages.
> > > >
> > > > I can imagine that an motor that was designed for regular gas that
> > > > has 100K+ miles of wear, with some carbon deposits, etc. might knock
> > > > a bit more than it was designed to, giving an increased NoX reading
> > > > on the smog check. Even with a new EGR valve I read slightly above
> > > > average.
> > > >
> > > > I can imagine that such a motor running regular gas might knock
> > > > enough for the computer listening to the knock sensor to retard the
> > > > spark enough to reduce milage. I can imagine that the effect of
> > > > that might be greater % than the price increment to go to a higher
> > > > grade.
> > > >
> > > > I can imagine that the motor was designed to run on regular gas, but
> > > > that the crap sold for regular gas with MTBE to poison the Calif
> > > > ground water in it, federally subsidized Archer Daniels Midland EtOH
> > > > in it, and who knows what else, just isn't good enough. I can
> > > > imagine that a company like ARCO might be blatantly lying about what
> > > > the octane rating of their product really is.
> > > >
> > > > I don't know what of those to believe, but there is nothing wrong
> > > > with my imagination.
> > > >
Mike
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> You have a special case with CJ though, just as I have a special case. The
> original poster asked which gas to use in a TJ with a 6 and an automatic. He
> needs regular.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F620CB9.6D227B40@sympatico.ca...
> > I tested various grades in my CJ7 on a 4600 mile road trip. I have no
> > working gas gauge and have to use the odometer so pay 'close' attention
> > to mileage. (and keep a full gas container with me) ;-)
> >
> > In my case, my CJ with a 'tweaked' 258 needs high test gas with no
> > alcohol. 100 miles+ extra per tank over regular or 'any' grade of
> > alcohol mix. My Cherokee runs best on 'any' type of regular, we take
> > that on lots of long driving trips too. It don't care one bit what type
> > of regular goes in, it's mileage is pretty consistent. High test lowers
> > the mileage and power if it does anything at all.
> >
> > Gas mileage tells all!
> >
> > Well... bogging out at 65 mph on an alcohol mix kinda says something
> > too... ;-)
> >
> > Feel free to experiment, I sure did and benefited big time on one Jeep.
> > :-)
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Jeff Strickland wrote:
> > >
> > > All of this could be true, but it is not in the context of the original
> > > question, which came from a guy that just bought a Jeep an dasked what
> kind
> > > of gas it needs. The correct answer is that it needs Regular.
> > >
> > > Now, the variation on that answer is that some people might be tempted
> to
> > > put High Test in for a road trip, and I conceed the point that there
> could
> > > be some obscure advantage. But, the people that actually test these
> kinds of
> > > things say that even for a road trip, there is no particular advantage
> of
> > > using Premium fuel. This brings us back to the first correct answer,
> Regular
> > > is what it needs.
> > >
> > > "David Harmon" <source@netcom.com> wrote in message
> > > news:3f611f81.737138@news.west.earthlink.net...
> > > > On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 13:07:41 -0700 in rec.autos.makers.jeep+******,
> > > > "Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> is alleged to have written:
> > > >
> > > > >I think that we have tons of data to show that there is no advantage
> of
> > > > >running high test in a motor that is designed for regular. I can't
> image
> > > > >what possible advantage there might be on a road trip, but if one
> wanted
> > > to
> > > > >waste money somewhere, they may as well waste it on a road trip. I
> assume
> > > >
> > > > I can imagine several possible advantages.
> > > >
> > > > I can imagine that an motor that was designed for regular gas that
> > > > has 100K+ miles of wear, with some carbon deposits, etc. might knock
> > > > a bit more than it was designed to, giving an increased NoX reading
> > > > on the smog check. Even with a new EGR valve I read slightly above
> > > > average.
> > > >
> > > > I can imagine that such a motor running regular gas might knock
> > > > enough for the computer listening to the knock sensor to retard the
> > > > spark enough to reduce milage. I can imagine that the effect of
> > > > that might be greater % than the price increment to go to a higher
> > > > grade.
> > > >
> > > > I can imagine that the motor was designed to run on regular gas, but
> > > > that the crap sold for regular gas with MTBE to poison the Calif
> > > > ground water in it, federally subsidized Archer Daniels Midland EtOH
> > > > in it, and who knows what else, just isn't good enough. I can
> > > > imagine that a company like ARCO might be blatantly lying about what
> > > > the octane rating of their product really is.
> > > >
> > > > I don't know what of those to believe, but there is nothing wrong
> > > > with my imagination.
> > > >
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