Nathan W. Collier

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F59FD95.B051EBAE@sympatico.ca...
> Your mechanic has been ripping you off then or has no clue how to set up
> a carb engine....

thanks for beating me to it......you put it a whole lot nicer than i was
going to! :-)


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com

A.H. MacIntosh aka USERNAME

it was not meant to be serious.

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:gNo6b.46348$Qy4.38723@fed1read05...
> But that carbon build-up would just cause more pinging and/or knocking
since
> it glows after combustion and will prematurely ignite the air-fuel mixture
> during the next compression stroke.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "A.H. MacIntosh aka USERNAME" <chesshire_cat@nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:82o6b.6519$cQ1.1856858@kent.svc.tds.net...
> > Now there is a new way to raise compression. Get enough carbon
encrusting
> > the combustion chamber to bump it up a point or two. It's hell on the
flow
> > pattern though.
> >
> > "Steve Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> > news:ntn6b.1812$LB5.276@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com ...
> > >
> > > "Mark12211" <mark12211@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > news:20030906105647.22670.00000391@mb-m23.aol.com...
> > > > I disagree. I say use High grade all the time. I have to anyway on
> my
> > > > Wrangler, cause the mechanic who put the new carb on said the manual
> > > required
> > > > it.
> > >
> > > Octane is not determined by carburation, but by compression ratio.
Most
> > > newer vehicles are designed to run on 87. Higher octanes can cause
> carbon
> > > build-up in low compression engines.
> > > __
> > > Steve
> > > .
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

A.H. MacIntosh aka USERNAME

it was not meant to be serious.

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:gNo6b.46348$Qy4.38723@fed1read05...
> But that carbon build-up would just cause more pinging and/or knocking
since
> it glows after combustion and will prematurely ignite the air-fuel mixture
> during the next compression stroke.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "A.H. MacIntosh aka USERNAME" <chesshire_cat@nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:82o6b.6519$cQ1.1856858@kent.svc.tds.net...
> > Now there is a new way to raise compression. Get enough carbon
encrusting
> > the combustion chamber to bump it up a point or two. It's hell on the
flow
> > pattern though.
> >
> > "Steve Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> > news:ntn6b.1812$LB5.276@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com ...
> > >
> > > "Mark12211" <mark12211@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > news:20030906105647.22670.00000391@mb-m23.aol.com...
> > > > I disagree. I say use High grade all the time. I have to anyway on
> my
> > > > Wrangler, cause the mechanic who put the new carb on said the manual
> > > required
> > > > it.
> > >
> > > Octane is not determined by carburation, but by compression ratio.
Most
> > > newer vehicles are designed to run on 87. Higher octanes can cause
> carbon
> > > build-up in low compression engines.
> > > __
> > > Steve
> > > .
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Mike Romain

Bill, the major gas folks were in the news not too long ago saying the
only difference is octane, the same 'cleaners' are in all grades of gas.

Yes, they label them only saying the high has it, but that isn't
reality, they just omit to label the lower octanes.

Now brand to brand make a radical difference in cleaners, but not
octanes.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> All major premium gasolines use cleaning additives.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Steve Cowell wrote:
> >
> > Octane is not determined by carburation, but by compression ratio. Most
> > newer vehicles are designed to run on 87. Higher octanes can cause carbon
> > build-up in low compression engines.
> > __
> > Steve
> > .

Mike Romain

Bill, the major gas folks were in the news not too long ago saying the
only difference is octane, the same 'cleaners' are in all grades of gas.

Yes, they label them only saying the high has it, but that isn't
reality, they just omit to label the lower octanes.

Now brand to brand make a radical difference in cleaners, but not
octanes.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> All major premium gasolines use cleaning additives.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Steve Cowell wrote:
> >
> > Octane is not determined by carburation, but by compression ratio. Most
> > newer vehicles are designed to run on 87. Higher octanes can cause carbon
> > build-up in low compression engines.
> > __
> > Steve
> > .

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Talk to any transport driver, they are the one's that make the
final mix.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Bill, the major gas folks were in the news not too long ago saying the
> only difference is octane, the same 'cleaners' are in all grades of gas.
>
> Yes, they label them only saying the high has it, but that isn't
> reality, they just omit to label the lower octanes.
>
> Now brand to brand make a radical difference in cleaners, but not
> octanes.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Talk to any transport driver, they are the one's that make the
final mix.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Bill, the major gas folks were in the news not too long ago saying the
> only difference is octane, the same 'cleaners' are in all grades of gas.
>
> Yes, they label them only saying the high has it, but that isn't
> reality, they just omit to label the lower octanes.
>
> Now brand to brand make a radical difference in cleaners, but not
> octanes.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mike Romain

"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F59FD95.B051EBAE@sympatico.ca...
> > Your mechanic has been ripping you off then or has no clue how to set up
> > a carb engine....
>
> thanks for beating me to it......you put it a whole lot nicer than i was
> going to! :-)
>
> --

Well, any mechanic that sets up an engine so bad it needs 106 octane to
not knock or not run well, is out to lunch in my mind.

Or something else is big time wrong somewhere and he upped the timing to
compensate....

No way a stock engine needs a slower burning gas than you can get at the
pumps.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mike Romain

"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F59FD95.B051EBAE@sympatico.ca...
> > Your mechanic has been ripping you off then or has no clue how to set up
> > a carb engine....
>
> thanks for beating me to it......you put it a whole lot nicer than i was
> going to! :-)
>
> --

Well, any mechanic that sets up an engine so bad it needs 106 octane to
not knock or not run well, is out to lunch in my mind.

Or something else is big time wrong somewhere and he upped the timing to
compensate....

No way a stock engine needs a slower burning gas than you can get at the
pumps.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Lon Stowell

I've had two engineers from major oil companies swear up and down
that *except* where an octane enhancer just also happens to be
useful as an engine detergent, the different grades have no
substantive differences in "cleaning additives".

Approximately 9/6/03 10:54, L.W.(ßill) ------ III uttered for posterity:

> All major premium gasolines use cleaning additives.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Steve Cowell wrote:
>>
>> Octane is not determined by carburation, but by compression ratio. Most
>> newer vehicles are designed to run on 87. Higher octanes can cause carbon
>> build-up in low compression engines.
>> __
>> Steve
>> .