curt

I have a Trailmaster 4" lift on my '96 Cherokee. I towed a very heavy
trailer 6000 pounds for over 1200 miles a while back. Yes I know it was
illegal. My rear is sagging. The Trail Master lift is an add a leaf set
up. Do I add another leaf? Do I have to replace the rear leafs?

Thanks for any suggestions,
Curt

Cherokee-LTD

"curt" <h_curtis@verizon.net> wrote in message
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:
: "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
: news:3F5F151A.4FCAB0BD@***.net...
: > Hi Curt,
: > Re-arc what you have, adding a leaf will make ride rock hard.
: > Remember, the difference between your stock springs and the additional
: > overload?
:
: Bill,
: Not sure what you meant by additional overload?
:

Add-a-leafs are commenly refered to as overloaders. In most cases when you
add an overloader (add-a-leaf) your ride will stiffen up considerably. Bill
was refering to the change in ride from stock to overload..

If you want another 125k+ consider new springs. To re-arc you are paying to
re&re and it probably won't give you the results you're after. Especially if
you have a short add-a-leaf. Weigh the differance to perform re-arcing to
the cost of new springs... chances are that you will have to replace the
springs in a couple of years anyway if you re-arc. (I've never had great
luck with re-arcing)

-Brian

Cherokee-LTD

"curt" <h_curtis@verizon.net> wrote in message
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:
: "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
: news:3F5F151A.4FCAB0BD@***.net...
: > Hi Curt,
: > Re-arc what you have, adding a leaf will make ride rock hard.
: > Remember, the difference between your stock springs and the additional
: > overload?
:
: Bill,
: Not sure what you meant by additional overload?
:

Add-a-leafs are commenly refered to as overloaders. In most cases when you
add an overloader (add-a-leaf) your ride will stiffen up considerably. Bill
was refering to the change in ride from stock to overload..

If you want another 125k+ consider new springs. To re-arc you are paying to
re&re and it probably won't give you the results you're after. Especially if
you have a short add-a-leaf. Weigh the differance to perform re-arcing to
the cost of new springs... chances are that you will have to replace the
springs in a couple of years anyway if you re-arc. (I've never had great
luck with re-arcing)

-Brian

curt

Thanks Brian,

I wonder who makes leaf springs for the rear of my Jeep with my 4" lift.
Strangely when I bought the lift it was an add a leaf set up in the rear.
It stated 3" for rear with the add a leaf from Traimaster. It sat really
nice until I towed 6000 lbs for 1200 miles. Should I look for a 4" set of
leafs for the rear now and what is a good name to look for?

Thanks for your help,
Curt



"Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
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>
> "curt" <h_curtis@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:vvF7b.13004$w41.4670@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> :
> : "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> : news:3F5F151A.4FCAB0BD@***.net...
> : > Hi Curt,
> : > Re-arc what you have, adding a leaf will make ride rock hard.
> : > Remember, the difference between your stock springs and the additional
> : > overload?
> :
> : Bill,
> : Not sure what you meant by additional overload?
> :
>
> Add-a-leafs are commenly refered to as overloaders. In most cases when you
> add an overloader (add-a-leaf) your ride will stiffen up considerably.
Bill
> was refering to the change in ride from stock to overload..
>
> If you want another 125k+ consider new springs. To re-arc you are paying
to
> re&re and it probably won't give you the results you're after. Especially
if
> you have a short add-a-leaf. Weigh the differance to perform re-arcing to
> the cost of new springs... chances are that you will have to replace the
> springs in a couple of years anyway if you re-arc. (I've never had great
> luck with re-arcing)
>
> -Brian
>
>

curt

Thanks Brian,

I wonder who makes leaf springs for the rear of my Jeep with my 4" lift.
Strangely when I bought the lift it was an add a leaf set up in the rear.
It stated 3" for rear with the add a leaf from Traimaster. It sat really
nice until I towed 6000 lbs for 1200 miles. Should I look for a 4" set of
leafs for the rear now and what is a good name to look for?

Thanks for your help,
Curt



"Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
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>
> "curt" <h_curtis@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:vvF7b.13004$w41.4670@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> :
> : "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> : news:3F5F151A.4FCAB0BD@***.net...
> : > Hi Curt,
> : > Re-arc what you have, adding a leaf will make ride rock hard.
> : > Remember, the difference between your stock springs and the additional
> : > overload?
> :
> : Bill,
> : Not sure what you meant by additional overload?
> :
>
> Add-a-leafs are commenly refered to as overloaders. In most cases when you
> add an overloader (add-a-leaf) your ride will stiffen up considerably.
Bill
> was refering to the change in ride from stock to overload..
>
> If you want another 125k+ consider new springs. To re-arc you are paying
to
> re&re and it probably won't give you the results you're after. Especially
if
> you have a short add-a-leaf. Weigh the differance to perform re-arcing to
> the cost of new springs... chances are that you will have to replace the
> springs in a couple of years anyway if you re-arc. (I've never had great
> luck with re-arcing)
>
> -Brian
>
>

curt

Crap, I just remember I had a factory 1" lift on my Jeep. Maybe that is why
they went 3" on rear with add a leaf.


"curt" <h_curtis@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Thanks Brian,
>
> I wonder who makes leaf springs for the rear of my Jeep with my 4" lift.
> Strangely when I bought the lift it was an add a leaf set up in the rear.
> It stated 3" for rear with the add a leaf from Traimaster. It sat really
> nice until I towed 6000 lbs for 1200 miles. Should I look for a 4" set of
> leafs for the rear now and what is a good name to look for?
>
> Thanks for your help,
> Curt
>
>
>
> "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> news:rSf8b.440437$4UE.154966@news01.bloor.is.net.c able.rogers.com...
> >
> > "curt" <h_curtis@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > news:vvF7b.13004$w41.4670@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> > :
> > : "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > : news:3F5F151A.4FCAB0BD@***.net...
> > : > Hi Curt,
> > : > Re-arc what you have, adding a leaf will make ride rock hard.
> > : > Remember, the difference between your stock springs and the
additional
> > : > overload?
> > :
> > : Bill,
> > : Not sure what you meant by additional overload?
> > :
> >
> > Add-a-leafs are commenly refered to as overloaders. In most cases when
you
> > add an overloader (add-a-leaf) your ride will stiffen up considerably.
> Bill
> > was refering to the change in ride from stock to overload..
> >
> > If you want another 125k+ consider new springs. To re-arc you are paying
> to
> > re&re and it probably won't give you the results you're after.
Especially
> if
> > you have a short add-a-leaf. Weigh the differance to perform re-arcing
to
> > the cost of new springs... chances are that you will have to replace the
> > springs in a couple of years anyway if you re-arc. (I've never had great
> > luck with re-arcing)
> >
> > -Brian
> >
> >
>
>

curt

Crap, I just remember I had a factory 1" lift on my Jeep. Maybe that is why
they went 3" on rear with add a leaf.


"curt" <h_curtis@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Thanks Brian,
>
> I wonder who makes leaf springs for the rear of my Jeep with my 4" lift.
> Strangely when I bought the lift it was an add a leaf set up in the rear.
> It stated 3" for rear with the add a leaf from Traimaster. It sat really
> nice until I towed 6000 lbs for 1200 miles. Should I look for a 4" set of
> leafs for the rear now and what is a good name to look for?
>
> Thanks for your help,
> Curt
>
>
>
> "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> news:rSf8b.440437$4UE.154966@news01.bloor.is.net.c able.rogers.com...
> >
> > "curt" <h_curtis@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > news:vvF7b.13004$w41.4670@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> > :
> > : "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > : news:3F5F151A.4FCAB0BD@***.net...
> > : > Hi Curt,
> > : > Re-arc what you have, adding a leaf will make ride rock hard.
> > : > Remember, the difference between your stock springs and the
additional
> > : > overload?
> > :
> > : Bill,
> > : Not sure what you meant by additional overload?
> > :
> >
> > Add-a-leafs are commenly refered to as overloaders. In most cases when
you
> > add an overloader (add-a-leaf) your ride will stiffen up considerably.
> Bill
> > was refering to the change in ride from stock to overload..
> >
> > If you want another 125k+ consider new springs. To re-arc you are paying
> to
> > re&re and it probably won't give you the results you're after.
Especially
> if
> > you have a short add-a-leaf. Weigh the differance to perform re-arcing
to
> > the cost of new springs... chances are that you will have to replace the
> > springs in a couple of years anyway if you re-arc. (I've never had great
> > luck with re-arcing)
> >
> > -Brian
> >
> >
>
>

Joshua Nelson

I have not heard good things about trailmaster (Sags frequently.)
Everyone seems to have a much higher opinion of RE (Rubicon Express)
lifts. I realize redoing the entire lift may be more than you
bargained for, but if it is worth doing, it is worth doing right....


"curt" <h_curtis@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<AuE7b.12933$w41.8175@nwrdny02.gnilink.net>.. .
> I have a Trailmaster 4" lift on my '96 Cherokee. I towed a very heavy
> trailer 6000 pounds for over 1200 miles a while back. Yes I know it was
> illegal. My rear is sagging. The Trail Master lift is an add a leaf set
> up. Do I add another leaf? Do I have to replace the rear leafs?
>
> Thanks for any suggestions,
> Curt

Joshua Nelson

I have not heard good things about trailmaster (Sags frequently.)
Everyone seems to have a much higher opinion of RE (Rubicon Express)
lifts. I realize redoing the entire lift may be more than you
bargained for, but if it is worth doing, it is worth doing right....


"curt" <h_curtis@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<AuE7b.12933$w41.8175@nwrdny02.gnilink.net>.. .
> I have a Trailmaster 4" lift on my '96 Cherokee. I towed a very heavy
> trailer 6000 pounds for over 1200 miles a while back. Yes I know it was
> illegal. My rear is sagging. The Trail Master lift is an add a leaf set
> up. Do I add another leaf? Do I have to replace the rear leafs?
>
> Thanks for any suggestions,
> Curt

curt

I am not re-doing a whole lift. I have 100K miles on this lift and it had
been really perfect. The rear was good until I towed all that weight. It
just never came back. The front is fine. I just need to get new springs
for the rear. Not that many companies make a 4", mostly 3" which doesn't
look very good IMHO.

Thanks, I'll look into RE for the rear.
Curt

"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
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> I have not heard good things about trailmaster (Sags frequently.)
> Everyone seems to have a much higher opinion of RE (Rubicon Express)
> lifts. I realize redoing the entire lift may be more than you
> bargained for, but if it is worth doing, it is worth doing right....
>
>
> "curt" <h_curtis@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:<AuE7b.12933$w41.8175@nwrdny02.gnilink.net>.. .
> > I have a Trailmaster 4" lift on my '96 Cherokee. I towed a very heavy
> > trailer 6000 pounds for over 1200 miles a while back. Yes I know it was
> > illegal. My rear is sagging. The Trail Master lift is an add a leaf
set
> > up. Do I add another leaf? Do I have to replace the rear leafs?
> >
> > Thanks for any suggestions,
> > Curt