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c wrote:

> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4085396E.2B1398A9@sympatico.ca...
>
>>Yup, just messes thing up don't it....
>>;-)
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 20 Apr 2004, Greg wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 02:04:34 GMT
>>>>From: Greg <greglc84@hotmail.com>
>>>>Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
>>>>Subject: Re: question on jeep dealer refusing service.
>>>>
>>>> Myself I hate it when I'm following a thread and people post at the
>>>>bottom, so I have to scroll down to see what they have to say, and I
>
> hate it
>
>>>>when people cut out parts in their reply, if I come in on a thread at
>
> mid
>
>>>>point I like to be able to read what it's all about.
>>>>
>>>>"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:Pine.NEB.4.58.0404191724330.797@panix1.pa nix.com...


Not sure what you guys are talking about. It's easy to follow.


>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 19 Apr 2004, Sleestak wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>By the way, top posting screws up the continuity of the
>
> conversation.
>
>>>>>>Amen! Wish everyone felt this way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>That's a subject that borders on a religion, with all that goes with
>
> it.
>
>>>>>I personally prefer posting styles that include bottom posting and
>>>>>trimming quoted material, with comments interleaved between
>
> points -- one
>
>>>>>advantage to that style is that the poster has to do some work so
>
> the
>
>>>>>reader doesn't have to, top-posting just means that nobody has to
>
> work,
>
>>>>>especially if your reader software dumps the cursor at the top of
>
> the
>
>>>>>page. But that's just me, and here the majority seem to like
>
> top-posting
>
>>>>>without interleaving responses.
>>>>>
>>>>>When I'm in Rome, I type with a Romish accent, unless I'm talking to
>>>>>another damned furriner.
>>>>>
>>>>>If the post I'm replying to is top-posted, I'll do the same. If I'm
>>>>>posting here and I've got a lot of comments that are best read with
>
> the
>
>>>>>material I'm responding to, I'll put a "Bottom posted with replies
>>>>>inserted into original text" note at the top, trim out the dead wood
>
> to
>
>>>>>make it easy on the reader and post away.
>>>>>
>>>>>But that's just me.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>And then there's those who don't follow the lead of the previous three
>>>posters....
>
>
> It sure does! ;-)
>
> Chris
>
>

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Paul R. Johnson

On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 15:28:50 -0600, "cactuscowboy"
<cactuscowboy@bresnan.net> wrote:

>It sounds like you prefer receiving a 'bottom dollar' price without
>negotiation, or as you put it, "playing head games" & "childish stunts". If
>that's what you want, simply ask for it the next time you car shop. As a
>salesman, I'm perfectly happy to accomodate such demands. Keep in mind that
>negotiation is a buying/selling skill and you're more likely to get a better
>price by effectively negotiating versus demanding bottom dollar. Don't view
>negotiating as confrontation, personal attacks, game playing, etc.....
>It's not.
>
>There is absolutely nothing wrong with any dealer asking full list price and
>showing ACV on a trade. Don't ever take that as an insult. Some customers
>(very few actually) will sign up and take delivery when asked for all the
>money. Guess what? Those customers are by far the happiest! They'll tell
>friends and family about the great deal they got and send us referrals. Did
>they really get a great deal? Yes, in their minds they did, and that's all
>that really matters.
>

I had a check in my hand when my wife and I went minivan shopping. We
stopped at the largest toyota dealer in Ga and began negotiations on a
Sienna. My wife liked it a little more than the odyssey because of
the sunroof. We had already negotiated an ody over the internet with
our local dealer. We went to the Toyota place and drove the van. All
of them had "Red tag sale" signs in them. When the salesman got in,
he slid the sign where we couldn't see it. We drive it and were ready
to buy. I said, what's your best price, I am buying today. He said
wait here and I will see what i can get you. He cam back and started
reading the deal: MSRP, advertised factory rebate. I asked him if he
thought I was stupid. He said "no, why?" When I mentioned the deal
in the window, he said those were from last weekend. This was on a
thursday. I got up and walked out and drove straight to the honda
store and spent my money.

Paul R. Johnson

On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 15:28:50 -0600, "cactuscowboy"
<cactuscowboy@bresnan.net> wrote:

>It sounds like you prefer receiving a 'bottom dollar' price without
>negotiation, or as you put it, "playing head games" & "childish stunts". If
>that's what you want, simply ask for it the next time you car shop. As a
>salesman, I'm perfectly happy to accomodate such demands. Keep in mind that
>negotiation is a buying/selling skill and you're more likely to get a better
>price by effectively negotiating versus demanding bottom dollar. Don't view
>negotiating as confrontation, personal attacks, game playing, etc.....
>It's not.
>
>There is absolutely nothing wrong with any dealer asking full list price and
>showing ACV on a trade. Don't ever take that as an insult. Some customers
>(very few actually) will sign up and take delivery when asked for all the
>money. Guess what? Those customers are by far the happiest! They'll tell
>friends and family about the great deal they got and send us referrals. Did
>they really get a great deal? Yes, in their minds they did, and that's all
>that really matters.
>

I had a check in my hand when my wife and I went minivan shopping. We
stopped at the largest toyota dealer in Ga and began negotiations on a
Sienna. My wife liked it a little more than the odyssey because of
the sunroof. We had already negotiated an ody over the internet with
our local dealer. We went to the Toyota place and drove the van. All
of them had "Red tag sale" signs in them. When the salesman got in,
he slid the sign where we couldn't see it. We drive it and were ready
to buy. I said, what's your best price, I am buying today. He said
wait here and I will see what i can get you. He cam back and started
reading the deal: MSRP, advertised factory rebate. I asked him if he
thought I was stupid. He said "no, why?" When I mentioned the deal
in the window, he said those were from last weekend. This was on a
thursday. I got up and walked out and drove straight to the honda
store and spent my money.

Paul R. Johnson

On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 15:28:50 -0600, "cactuscowboy"
<cactuscowboy@bresnan.net> wrote:

>It sounds like you prefer receiving a 'bottom dollar' price without
>negotiation, or as you put it, "playing head games" & "childish stunts". If
>that's what you want, simply ask for it the next time you car shop. As a
>salesman, I'm perfectly happy to accomodate such demands. Keep in mind that
>negotiation is a buying/selling skill and you're more likely to get a better
>price by effectively negotiating versus demanding bottom dollar. Don't view
>negotiating as confrontation, personal attacks, game playing, etc.....
>It's not.
>
>There is absolutely nothing wrong with any dealer asking full list price and
>showing ACV on a trade. Don't ever take that as an insult. Some customers
>(very few actually) will sign up and take delivery when asked for all the
>money. Guess what? Those customers are by far the happiest! They'll tell
>friends and family about the great deal they got and send us referrals. Did
>they really get a great deal? Yes, in their minds they did, and that's all
>that really matters.
>

I had a check in my hand when my wife and I went minivan shopping. We
stopped at the largest toyota dealer in Ga and began negotiations on a
Sienna. My wife liked it a little more than the odyssey because of
the sunroof. We had already negotiated an ody over the internet with
our local dealer. We went to the Toyota place and drove the van. All
of them had "Red tag sale" signs in them. When the salesman got in,
he slid the sign where we couldn't see it. We drive it and were ready
to buy. I said, what's your best price, I am buying today. He said
wait here and I will see what i can get you. He cam back and started
reading the deal: MSRP, advertised factory rebate. I asked him if he
thought I was stupid. He said "no, why?" When I mentioned the deal
in the window, he said those were from last weekend. This was on a
thursday. I got up and walked out and drove straight to the honda
store and spent my money.

Paul R. Johnson

On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 15:28:50 -0600, "cactuscowboy"
<cactuscowboy@bresnan.net> wrote:

>It sounds like you prefer receiving a 'bottom dollar' price without
>negotiation, or as you put it, "playing head games" & "childish stunts". If
>that's what you want, simply ask for it the next time you car shop. As a
>salesman, I'm perfectly happy to accomodate such demands. Keep in mind that
>negotiation is a buying/selling skill and you're more likely to get a better
>price by effectively negotiating versus demanding bottom dollar. Don't view
>negotiating as confrontation, personal attacks, game playing, etc.....
>It's not.
>
>There is absolutely nothing wrong with any dealer asking full list price and
>showing ACV on a trade. Don't ever take that as an insult. Some customers
>(very few actually) will sign up and take delivery when asked for all the
>money. Guess what? Those customers are by far the happiest! They'll tell
>friends and family about the great deal they got and send us referrals. Did
>they really get a great deal? Yes, in their minds they did, and that's all
>that really matters.
>

I had a check in my hand when my wife and I went minivan shopping. We
stopped at the largest toyota dealer in Ga and began negotiations on a
Sienna. My wife liked it a little more than the odyssey because of
the sunroof. We had already negotiated an ody over the internet with
our local dealer. We went to the Toyota place and drove the van. All
of them had "Red tag sale" signs in them. When the salesman got in,
he slid the sign where we couldn't see it. We drive it and were ready
to buy. I said, what's your best price, I am buying today. He said
wait here and I will see what i can get you. He cam back and started
reading the deal: MSRP, advertised factory rebate. I asked him if he
thought I was stupid. He said "no, why?" When I mentioned the deal
in the window, he said those were from last weekend. This was on a
thursday. I got up and walked out and drove straight to the honda
store and spent my money.