OT: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
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Re: OT: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
Yup, a buck a mile now, of course that's gross. And yes.
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Wblane wrote:
>
> Most long haul truckers don't get paid by the hour but by the mile. In
> cost-adjusted dollars is diesel more expensive than it was before the Mercedes
> diesels?
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Wblane wrote:
>
> Most long haul truckers don't get paid by the hour but by the mile. In
> cost-adjusted dollars is diesel more expensive than it was before the Mercedes
> diesels?
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Re: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
Because of Supply and Demand. The refiners keep the supply low in order to
keep prices high. Why would they make a gallon and sell it for a dollar when
they can make a half-gallon and sell it for two dollars?
"Wblane" <wblane@aol.combotizer> wrote in message
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> If you don't want to read this thread then don't. This is a legit question
not
> a troll.
>
> I always though diesel fuel was less refined than gasoline so why isn't it
> cheaper than gasoline?
> -Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)
keep prices high. Why would they make a gallon and sell it for a dollar when
they can make a half-gallon and sell it for two dollars?
"Wblane" <wblane@aol.combotizer> wrote in message
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> If you don't want to read this thread then don't. This is a legit question
not
> a troll.
>
> I always though diesel fuel was less refined than gasoline so why isn't it
> cheaper than gasoline?
> -Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)
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Re: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
Because of Supply and Demand. The refiners keep the supply low in order to
keep prices high. Why would they make a gallon and sell it for a dollar when
they can make a half-gallon and sell it for two dollars?
"Wblane" <wblane@aol.combotizer> wrote in message
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> If you don't want to read this thread then don't. This is a legit question
not
> a troll.
>
> I always though diesel fuel was less refined than gasoline so why isn't it
> cheaper than gasoline?
> -Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)
keep prices high. Why would they make a gallon and sell it for a dollar when
they can make a half-gallon and sell it for two dollars?
"Wblane" <wblane@aol.combotizer> wrote in message
news:20041104165622.06439.00000105@mb-m18.aol.com...
> If you don't want to read this thread then don't. This is a legit question
not
> a troll.
>
> I always though diesel fuel was less refined than gasoline so why isn't it
> cheaper than gasoline?
> -Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)
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Re: OT: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
That was my point before, it looked like you wrote 10 cents an hour instead
of 10 cents a mile...
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Yup, a buck a mile now, of course that's gross. And yes.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Wblane wrote:
> >
> > Most long haul truckers don't get paid by the hour but by the mile. In
> > cost-adjusted dollars is diesel more expensive than it was before the
Mercedes
> > diesels?
of 10 cents a mile...
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:418FED93.8810301F@***.net...
> Yup, a buck a mile now, of course that's gross. And yes.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Wblane wrote:
> >
> > Most long haul truckers don't get paid by the hour but by the mile. In
> > cost-adjusted dollars is diesel more expensive than it was before the
Mercedes
> > diesels?
#75
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Re: OT: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
That was my point before, it looked like you wrote 10 cents an hour instead
of 10 cents a mile...
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:418FED93.8810301F@***.net...
> Yup, a buck a mile now, of course that's gross. And yes.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Wblane wrote:
> >
> > Most long haul truckers don't get paid by the hour but by the mile. In
> > cost-adjusted dollars is diesel more expensive than it was before the
Mercedes
> > diesels?
of 10 cents a mile...
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:418FED93.8810301F@***.net...
> Yup, a buck a mile now, of course that's gross. And yes.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Wblane wrote:
> >
> > Most long haul truckers don't get paid by the hour but by the mile. In
> > cost-adjusted dollars is diesel more expensive than it was before the
Mercedes
> > diesels?
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Re: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
Like you would sell your home for half what's worth? If the oil
companies are making so much money why don't you invest in their stock?
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Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> Because of Supply and Demand. The refiners keep the supply low in order to
> keep prices high. Why would they make a gallon and sell it for a dollar when
> they can make a half-gallon and sell it for two dollars?
companies are making so much money why don't you invest in their stock?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> Because of Supply and Demand. The refiners keep the supply low in order to
> keep prices high. Why would they make a gallon and sell it for a dollar when
> they can make a half-gallon and sell it for two dollars?
#77
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Re: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
Like you would sell your home for half what's worth? If the oil
companies are making so much money why don't you invest in their stock?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> Because of Supply and Demand. The refiners keep the supply low in order to
> keep prices high. Why would they make a gallon and sell it for a dollar when
> they can make a half-gallon and sell it for two dollars?
companies are making so much money why don't you invest in their stock?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> Because of Supply and Demand. The refiners keep the supply low in order to
> keep prices high. Why would they make a gallon and sell it for a dollar when
> they can make a half-gallon and sell it for two dollars?
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Re: OT: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
Nope, it was Brother-in-law's ten cents an hour average, after
writing checks for $365,000 for the year before last.
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Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> That was my point before, it looked like you wrote 10 cents an hour instead
> of 10 cents a mile...
writing checks for $365,000 for the year before last.
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Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> That was my point before, it looked like you wrote 10 cents an hour instead
> of 10 cents a mile...
#79
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Re: OT: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
Nope, it was Brother-in-law's ten cents an hour average, after
writing checks for $365,000 for the year before last.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> That was my point before, it looked like you wrote 10 cents an hour instead
> of 10 cents a mile...
writing checks for $365,000 for the year before last.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> That was my point before, it looked like you wrote 10 cents an hour instead
> of 10 cents a mile...
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Re: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
It is amazing how we are all fooled that Hydrogen just appears in a tank and
we will be able to fill our cars for free! Unless we come up with a great
idea to separate Hydrogen from what it wants to combine with (Oxygen) we are
SOL. I hope some great scientist can do this for less energy than it gives
off when combining with oxygen again, but I am not holding my breath. I am
a "Bush" supporter, but I am not a supporter of the hydrogen fuel
initiatives. I would rather see more scientific research into making 60 mpg
diesels. Jetta has a 50 mpg diesel!
Why would you buy an electric hybrid with all the motors and associated
electronics to go wrong when you can buy a VW diesel that gets nearly the
same gas mileage and any diesel mechanic can work on it ?! I am an
electrical engineer and I am scared to try to troubleshoot an electric
hybrid. And the batteries...don't get me going (more pollution than burning
good old gas). Now, for all the taxis in NYC - it would be great if they
ran on something less polluting. Natural Gas - that may be the answer.
Curtis
"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
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> > Do your homework before you tiptoe off thru lala land. Your first
> > assignment is to discover where that hydrogen comes from and how it
> > is extracted.
>
> Main sources: natural gas, coal, biomass, water. Look to the future,
bright
> eyes ...water.
>
>
> > Then continue to discover what happens to a mixture
> > of hydrogen and ordinary air as the hydrogen is burned and whether
> > the resulting products are pure water as suggested by the scientific
> > illiterate or something a bit less pristine as happens in the real
> > world.
>
> When created through natural gas extraction, yes there are pollutants.
When
> used to power a fuel cell to run an engine, it's only real byproduct is
> water. Very low pollution all around though when compared to current
> methods - but it needs to be developed for an efficient mass-scale.
>
>
> > And for the grand finale, compute the total cycle energy
> > costs of actually producing and distributing all that hydrogen.
>
> I believe H has the highest energy content by weight of any available fuel
> and when they can efficiently produce, store, and use it ...it will be
alot
> easier on the enviro than any currently used fuel. Especially when you
> consider the amount of energy and fuel used to transport oil barrels from
> overseas (not even including the damage done by spills).
>
> > Then take another look at the energy densities available with
ordinary
> old
> > lowly gasoline scrubbed clean by a cat convertor.
>
> For now. It's like trying to explain the benefits of steam over coal to an
> 1820's train operator. Give it time.
>
>
we will be able to fill our cars for free! Unless we come up with a great
idea to separate Hydrogen from what it wants to combine with (Oxygen) we are
SOL. I hope some great scientist can do this for less energy than it gives
off when combining with oxygen again, but I am not holding my breath. I am
a "Bush" supporter, but I am not a supporter of the hydrogen fuel
initiatives. I would rather see more scientific research into making 60 mpg
diesels. Jetta has a 50 mpg diesel!
Why would you buy an electric hybrid with all the motors and associated
electronics to go wrong when you can buy a VW diesel that gets nearly the
same gas mileage and any diesel mechanic can work on it ?! I am an
electrical engineer and I am scared to try to troubleshoot an electric
hybrid. And the batteries...don't get me going (more pollution than burning
good old gas). Now, for all the taxis in NYC - it would be great if they
ran on something less polluting. Natural Gas - that may be the answer.
Curtis
"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
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> > Do your homework before you tiptoe off thru lala land. Your first
> > assignment is to discover where that hydrogen comes from and how it
> > is extracted.
>
> Main sources: natural gas, coal, biomass, water. Look to the future,
bright
> eyes ...water.
>
>
> > Then continue to discover what happens to a mixture
> > of hydrogen and ordinary air as the hydrogen is burned and whether
> > the resulting products are pure water as suggested by the scientific
> > illiterate or something a bit less pristine as happens in the real
> > world.
>
> When created through natural gas extraction, yes there are pollutants.
When
> used to power a fuel cell to run an engine, it's only real byproduct is
> water. Very low pollution all around though when compared to current
> methods - but it needs to be developed for an efficient mass-scale.
>
>
> > And for the grand finale, compute the total cycle energy
> > costs of actually producing and distributing all that hydrogen.
>
> I believe H has the highest energy content by weight of any available fuel
> and when they can efficiently produce, store, and use it ...it will be
alot
> easier on the enviro than any currently used fuel. Especially when you
> consider the amount of energy and fuel used to transport oil barrels from
> overseas (not even including the damage done by spills).
>
> > Then take another look at the energy densities available with
ordinary
> old
> > lowly gasoline scrubbed clean by a cat convertor.
>
> For now. It's like trying to explain the benefits of steam over coal to an
> 1820's train operator. Give it time.
>
>