OT: diesel fuel: why isn't it cheaper than gasoline?
Guest
Posts: n/a
Yup, a buck a mile now, of course that's gross. And yes.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Wblane wrote:
>
> Most long haul truckers don't get paid by the hour but by the mile. In
> cost-adjusted dollars is diesel more expensive than it was before the Mercedes
> diesels?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Wblane wrote:
>
> Most long haul truckers don't get paid by the hour but by the mile. In
> cost-adjusted dollars is diesel more expensive than it was before the Mercedes
> diesels?
Guest
Posts: n/a
Because of Supply and Demand. The refiners keep the supply low in order to
keep prices high. Why would they make a gallon and sell it for a dollar when
they can make a half-gallon and sell it for two dollars?
"Wblane" <wblane@aol.combotizer> wrote in message
news:20041104165622.06439.00000105@mb-m18.aol.com...
> If you don't want to read this thread then don't. This is a legit question
not
> a troll.
>
> I always though diesel fuel was less refined than gasoline so why isn't it
> cheaper than gasoline?
> -Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)
keep prices high. Why would they make a gallon and sell it for a dollar when
they can make a half-gallon and sell it for two dollars?
"Wblane" <wblane@aol.combotizer> wrote in message
news:20041104165622.06439.00000105@mb-m18.aol.com...
> If you don't want to read this thread then don't. This is a legit question
not
> a troll.
>
> I always though diesel fuel was less refined than gasoline so why isn't it
> cheaper than gasoline?
> -Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)
Guest
Posts: n/a
Because of Supply and Demand. The refiners keep the supply low in order to
keep prices high. Why would they make a gallon and sell it for a dollar when
they can make a half-gallon and sell it for two dollars?
"Wblane" <wblane@aol.combotizer> wrote in message
news:20041104165622.06439.00000105@mb-m18.aol.com...
> If you don't want to read this thread then don't. This is a legit question
not
> a troll.
>
> I always though diesel fuel was less refined than gasoline so why isn't it
> cheaper than gasoline?
> -Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)
keep prices high. Why would they make a gallon and sell it for a dollar when
they can make a half-gallon and sell it for two dollars?
"Wblane" <wblane@aol.combotizer> wrote in message
news:20041104165622.06439.00000105@mb-m18.aol.com...
> If you don't want to read this thread then don't. This is a legit question
not
> a troll.
>
> I always though diesel fuel was less refined than gasoline so why isn't it
> cheaper than gasoline?
> -Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)
Guest
Posts: n/a
That was my point before, it looked like you wrote 10 cents an hour instead
of 10 cents a mile...
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:418FED93.8810301F@***.net...
> Yup, a buck a mile now, of course that's gross. And yes.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Wblane wrote:
> >
> > Most long haul truckers don't get paid by the hour but by the mile. In
> > cost-adjusted dollars is diesel more expensive than it was before the
Mercedes
> > diesels?
of 10 cents a mile...
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:418FED93.8810301F@***.net...
> Yup, a buck a mile now, of course that's gross. And yes.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Wblane wrote:
> >
> > Most long haul truckers don't get paid by the hour but by the mile. In
> > cost-adjusted dollars is diesel more expensive than it was before the
Mercedes
> > diesels?
Guest
Posts: n/a
That was my point before, it looked like you wrote 10 cents an hour instead
of 10 cents a mile...
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:418FED93.8810301F@***.net...
> Yup, a buck a mile now, of course that's gross. And yes.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Wblane wrote:
> >
> > Most long haul truckers don't get paid by the hour but by the mile. In
> > cost-adjusted dollars is diesel more expensive than it was before the
Mercedes
> > diesels?
of 10 cents a mile...
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:418FED93.8810301F@***.net...
> Yup, a buck a mile now, of course that's gross. And yes.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Wblane wrote:
> >
> > Most long haul truckers don't get paid by the hour but by the mile. In
> > cost-adjusted dollars is diesel more expensive than it was before the
Mercedes
> > diesels?
Guest
Posts: n/a
Like you would sell your home for half what's worth? If the oil
companies are making so much money why don't you invest in their stock?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> Because of Supply and Demand. The refiners keep the supply low in order to
> keep prices high. Why would they make a gallon and sell it for a dollar when
> they can make a half-gallon and sell it for two dollars?
companies are making so much money why don't you invest in their stock?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> Because of Supply and Demand. The refiners keep the supply low in order to
> keep prices high. Why would they make a gallon and sell it for a dollar when
> they can make a half-gallon and sell it for two dollars?
Guest
Posts: n/a
Like you would sell your home for half what's worth? If the oil
companies are making so much money why don't you invest in their stock?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> Because of Supply and Demand. The refiners keep the supply low in order to
> keep prices high. Why would they make a gallon and sell it for a dollar when
> they can make a half-gallon and sell it for two dollars?
companies are making so much money why don't you invest in their stock?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> Because of Supply and Demand. The refiners keep the supply low in order to
> keep prices high. Why would they make a gallon and sell it for a dollar when
> they can make a half-gallon and sell it for two dollars?
Guest
Posts: n/a
Nope, it was Brother-in-law's ten cents an hour average, after
writing checks for $365,000 for the year before last.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> That was my point before, it looked like you wrote 10 cents an hour instead
> of 10 cents a mile...
writing checks for $365,000 for the year before last.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> That was my point before, it looked like you wrote 10 cents an hour instead
> of 10 cents a mile...
Guest
Posts: n/a
Nope, it was Brother-in-law's ten cents an hour average, after
writing checks for $365,000 for the year before last.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> That was my point before, it looked like you wrote 10 cents an hour instead
> of 10 cents a mile...
writing checks for $365,000 for the year before last.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> That was my point before, it looked like you wrote 10 cents an hour instead
> of 10 cents a mile...
Guest
Posts: n/a
It is amazing how we are all fooled that Hydrogen just appears in a tank and
we will be able to fill our cars for free! Unless we come up with a great
idea to separate Hydrogen from what it wants to combine with (Oxygen) we are
SOL. I hope some great scientist can do this for less energy than it gives
off when combining with oxygen again, but I am not holding my breath. I am
a "Bush" supporter, but I am not a supporter of the hydrogen fuel
initiatives. I would rather see more scientific research into making 60 mpg
diesels. Jetta has a 50 mpg diesel!
Why would you buy an electric hybrid with all the motors and associated
electronics to go wrong when you can buy a VW diesel that gets nearly the
same gas mileage and any diesel mechanic can work on it ?! I am an
electrical engineer and I am scared to try to troubleshoot an electric
hybrid. And the batteries...don't get me going (more pollution than burning
good old gas). Now, for all the taxis in NYC - it would be great if they
ran on something less polluting. Natural Gas - that may be the answer.
Curtis
"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:7u7jd.134200$%k.43633@pd7tw2no...
> > Do your homework before you tiptoe off thru lala land. Your first
> > assignment is to discover where that hydrogen comes from and how it
> > is extracted.
>
> Main sources: natural gas, coal, biomass, water. Look to the future,
bright
> eyes ...water.
>
>
> > Then continue to discover what happens to a mixture
> > of hydrogen and ordinary air as the hydrogen is burned and whether
> > the resulting products are pure water as suggested by the scientific
> > illiterate or something a bit less pristine as happens in the real
> > world.
>
> When created through natural gas extraction, yes there are pollutants.
When
> used to power a fuel cell to run an engine, it's only real byproduct is
> water. Very low pollution all around though when compared to current
> methods - but it needs to be developed for an efficient mass-scale.
>
>
> > And for the grand finale, compute the total cycle energy
> > costs of actually producing and distributing all that hydrogen.
>
> I believe H has the highest energy content by weight of any available fuel
> and when they can efficiently produce, store, and use it ...it will be
alot
> easier on the enviro than any currently used fuel. Especially when you
> consider the amount of energy and fuel used to transport oil barrels from
> overseas (not even including the damage done by spills).
>
> > Then take another look at the energy densities available with
ordinary
> old
> > lowly gasoline scrubbed clean by a cat convertor.
>
> For now. It's like trying to explain the benefits of steam over coal to an
> 1820's train operator. Give it time.
>
>
we will be able to fill our cars for free! Unless we come up with a great
idea to separate Hydrogen from what it wants to combine with (Oxygen) we are
SOL. I hope some great scientist can do this for less energy than it gives
off when combining with oxygen again, but I am not holding my breath. I am
a "Bush" supporter, but I am not a supporter of the hydrogen fuel
initiatives. I would rather see more scientific research into making 60 mpg
diesels. Jetta has a 50 mpg diesel!
Why would you buy an electric hybrid with all the motors and associated
electronics to go wrong when you can buy a VW diesel that gets nearly the
same gas mileage and any diesel mechanic can work on it ?! I am an
electrical engineer and I am scared to try to troubleshoot an electric
hybrid. And the batteries...don't get me going (more pollution than burning
good old gas). Now, for all the taxis in NYC - it would be great if they
ran on something less polluting. Natural Gas - that may be the answer.
Curtis
"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:7u7jd.134200$%k.43633@pd7tw2no...
> > Do your homework before you tiptoe off thru lala land. Your first
> > assignment is to discover where that hydrogen comes from and how it
> > is extracted.
>
> Main sources: natural gas, coal, biomass, water. Look to the future,
bright
> eyes ...water.
>
>
> > Then continue to discover what happens to a mixture
> > of hydrogen and ordinary air as the hydrogen is burned and whether
> > the resulting products are pure water as suggested by the scientific
> > illiterate or something a bit less pristine as happens in the real
> > world.
>
> When created through natural gas extraction, yes there are pollutants.
When
> used to power a fuel cell to run an engine, it's only real byproduct is
> water. Very low pollution all around though when compared to current
> methods - but it needs to be developed for an efficient mass-scale.
>
>
> > And for the grand finale, compute the total cycle energy
> > costs of actually producing and distributing all that hydrogen.
>
> I believe H has the highest energy content by weight of any available fuel
> and when they can efficiently produce, store, and use it ...it will be
alot
> easier on the enviro than any currently used fuel. Especially when you
> consider the amount of energy and fuel used to transport oil barrels from
> overseas (not even including the damage done by spills).
>
> > Then take another look at the energy densities available with
ordinary
> old
> > lowly gasoline scrubbed clean by a cat convertor.
>
> For now. It's like trying to explain the benefits of steam over coal to an
> 1820's train operator. Give it time.
>
>


