L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

Well that doesn't stop them form using our tax dollars to build
particle accelerators:
http://science.howstuffworks.com/atom-smasher3.htm In their imaginary
quest.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Lon wrote:
>
> Eggshually you have to achieve temperatures higher than the sun's
> corona...and that corona is several times higher than the temperature of
> the sun itself. The sun is just a big hydrogen bomb that hasn't run out
> of fuel but the fusion is only way down in the innards where the
> pressure is enough to keep fusion going. To do fusion without that type
> of pressure [that would require a solid unobtanium containment] you need
> temperatures that make the sun look like an alaskan winter

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

Well that doesn't stop them form using our tax dollars to build
particle accelerators:
http://science.howstuffworks.com/atom-smasher3.htm In their imaginary
quest.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Lon wrote:
>
> Eggshually you have to achieve temperatures higher than the sun's
> corona...and that corona is several times higher than the temperature of
> the sun itself. The sun is just a big hydrogen bomb that hasn't run out
> of fuel but the fusion is only way down in the innards where the
> pressure is enough to keep fusion going. To do fusion without that type
> of pressure [that would require a solid unobtanium containment] you need
> temperatures that make the sun look like an alaskan winter

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

Well that doesn't stop them form using our tax dollars to build
particle accelerators:
http://science.howstuffworks.com/atom-smasher3.htm In their imaginary
quest.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Lon wrote:
>
> Eggshually you have to achieve temperatures higher than the sun's
> corona...and that corona is several times higher than the temperature of
> the sun itself. The sun is just a big hydrogen bomb that hasn't run out
> of fuel but the fusion is only way down in the innards where the
> pressure is enough to keep fusion going. To do fusion without that type
> of pressure [that would require a solid unobtanium containment] you need
> temperatures that make the sun look like an alaskan winter

billy ray

There is one still in use in a nearby community as of a couple years ago.

It is not as efficient as Freon but there is no shortage of water around
here..


"Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
news:%Ku8g.484$oa1.305@news02.roc.ny...
> L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
>> How many gallon of water in your exchanger, if you use that type,
>> that doesn't keep you cool, nor warm. ;-) God Bless America, Bill
>> O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> "Frank_v7.0" wrote:
>>> "Of the 107 million households in the United States, approximately 8.1
>>> million use heating oil as their main heating fuel. Residential space
>>> heating is the primary use for heating oil, making the demand highly
>>> seasonal. Most of the heating oil use occurs during October through
>>> March. The area of the country most reliant on heating oil is the
>>> Northeast..."
>>>
>>> Heated with oil in Massachusetts and New Hampshire. Used kerosene in
>>> Vermont. In Arizona I have a heat pump :-)
>>> --
>>> FRH
>
> You're thinking of a "swamp cooler". ecch! I've got a Trane SEER 13 combo
> A/C and "real" heat pump. Works great up here in the mountains (7000"
> above sea level).
>
> --
> FRH

billy ray

There is one still in use in a nearby community as of a couple years ago.

It is not as efficient as Freon but there is no shortage of water around
here..


"Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
news:%Ku8g.484$oa1.305@news02.roc.ny...
> L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
>> How many gallon of water in your exchanger, if you use that type,
>> that doesn't keep you cool, nor warm. ;-) God Bless America, Bill
>> O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> "Frank_v7.0" wrote:
>>> "Of the 107 million households in the United States, approximately 8.1
>>> million use heating oil as their main heating fuel. Residential space
>>> heating is the primary use for heating oil, making the demand highly
>>> seasonal. Most of the heating oil use occurs during October through
>>> March. The area of the country most reliant on heating oil is the
>>> Northeast..."
>>>
>>> Heated with oil in Massachusetts and New Hampshire. Used kerosene in
>>> Vermont. In Arizona I have a heat pump :-)
>>> --
>>> FRH
>
> You're thinking of a "swamp cooler". ecch! I've got a Trane SEER 13 combo
> A/C and "real" heat pump. Works great up here in the mountains (7000"
> above sea level).
>
> --
> FRH

billy ray

There is one still in use in a nearby community as of a couple years ago.

It is not as efficient as Freon but there is no shortage of water around
here..


"Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
news:%Ku8g.484$oa1.305@news02.roc.ny...
> L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
>> How many gallon of water in your exchanger, if you use that type,
>> that doesn't keep you cool, nor warm. ;-) God Bless America, Bill
>> O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> "Frank_v7.0" wrote:
>>> "Of the 107 million households in the United States, approximately 8.1
>>> million use heating oil as their main heating fuel. Residential space
>>> heating is the primary use for heating oil, making the demand highly
>>> seasonal. Most of the heating oil use occurs during October through
>>> March. The area of the country most reliant on heating oil is the
>>> Northeast..."
>>>
>>> Heated with oil in Massachusetts and New Hampshire. Used kerosene in
>>> Vermont. In Arizona I have a heat pump :-)
>>> --
>>> FRH
>
> You're thinking of a "swamp cooler". ecch! I've got a Trane SEER 13 combo
> A/C and "real" heat pump. Works great up here in the mountains (7000"
> above sea level).
>
> --
> FRH

billy ray

That is why you had to clean your furnace and chimney annually.

Safety isn't rocket science, it is common sense.


"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> XS11E proclaimed:
>
>> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in
>> news:44615d08$0$6055$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m:
>>>When I was young and foolish, I bought plans for a home sized used
>>>motor oil furnace, from the Mother Earth News. My eyes bugged out
>>>of my head when I read them. You were supposed to use a manual
>>>valve and a home made "nozzle", to control the drip rate of the
>>>oil, as it dropped on pieces of fire brick, placed on a burner,
>>>made out of a frying pan. You got the fire going with kerosene or
>>>barbecue lighter fluid. I am still alive. That means I must not
>>>have made the thing.
>>
>>
>> If you had made it, it would have worked. Years back we had a commercial
>> fuel oil heater made exactly as you describe, it worked to perfection and
>> heated one end of our house, the wood stove in the kitchen heated the
>> other end. Unlike the one you describe, ours did have a fairly elaborate
>> chimmney to exhaust the fumes.
>>
> The better old burners had forced air to keep a smaller flame hotter with
> less soot. Bummer but all used motor oil has a pretty good load of sulfur
> in it.
>

billy ray

That is why you had to clean your furnace and chimney annually.

Safety isn't rocket science, it is common sense.


"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Peadnf2G8YPQBf_ZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> XS11E proclaimed:
>
>> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in
>> news:44615d08$0$6055$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m:
>>>When I was young and foolish, I bought plans for a home sized used
>>>motor oil furnace, from the Mother Earth News. My eyes bugged out
>>>of my head when I read them. You were supposed to use a manual
>>>valve and a home made "nozzle", to control the drip rate of the
>>>oil, as it dropped on pieces of fire brick, placed on a burner,
>>>made out of a frying pan. You got the fire going with kerosene or
>>>barbecue lighter fluid. I am still alive. That means I must not
>>>have made the thing.
>>
>>
>> If you had made it, it would have worked. Years back we had a commercial
>> fuel oil heater made exactly as you describe, it worked to perfection and
>> heated one end of our house, the wood stove in the kitchen heated the
>> other end. Unlike the one you describe, ours did have a fairly elaborate
>> chimmney to exhaust the fumes.
>>
> The better old burners had forced air to keep a smaller flame hotter with
> less soot. Bummer but all used motor oil has a pretty good load of sulfur
> in it.
>

billy ray

That is why you had to clean your furnace and chimney annually.

Safety isn't rocket science, it is common sense.


"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Peadnf2G8YPQBf_ZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> XS11E proclaimed:
>
>> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in
>> news:44615d08$0$6055$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m:
>>>When I was young and foolish, I bought plans for a home sized used
>>>motor oil furnace, from the Mother Earth News. My eyes bugged out
>>>of my head when I read them. You were supposed to use a manual
>>>valve and a home made "nozzle", to control the drip rate of the
>>>oil, as it dropped on pieces of fire brick, placed on a burner,
>>>made out of a frying pan. You got the fire going with kerosene or
>>>barbecue lighter fluid. I am still alive. That means I must not
>>>have made the thing.
>>
>>
>> If you had made it, it would have worked. Years back we had a commercial
>> fuel oil heater made exactly as you describe, it worked to perfection and
>> heated one end of our house, the wood stove in the kitchen heated the
>> other end. Unlike the one you describe, ours did have a fairly elaborate
>> chimmney to exhaust the fumes.
>>
> The better old burners had forced air to keep a smaller flame hotter with
> less soot. Bummer but all used motor oil has a pretty good load of sulfur
> in it.
>

Lon

SLAC is supposed to be shutting down soon and the Waxahachie unit never
got beyond prairie dog stage. Not that particle accelerators are used
for fusion. Some folks use tokomaks, most now use pulsed lasers and
pellets.

L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:

> Well that doesn't stop them form using our tax dollars to build
> particle accelerators:
> http://science.howstuffworks.com/atom-smasher3.htm In their imaginary
> quest.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Lon wrote:
>
>>Eggshually you have to achieve temperatures higher than the sun's
>>corona...and that corona is several times higher than the temperature of
>>the sun itself. The sun is just a big hydrogen bomb that hasn't run out
>>of fuel but the fusion is only way down in the innards where the
>>pressure is enough to keep fusion going. To do fusion without that type
>>of pressure [that would require a solid unobtanium containment] you need
>>temperatures that make the sun look like an alaskan winter