OT BioDiesel
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Re: OT BioDiesel
Eggshually you have to achieve temperatures higher than the sun's
corona...and that corona is several times higher than the temperature of
the sun itself. The sun is just a big hydrogen bomb that hasn't run out
of fuel but the fusion is only way down in the innards where the
pressure is enough to keep fusion going. To do fusion without that type
of pressure [that would require a solid unobtanium containment] you need
temperatures that make the sun look like an alaskan winter
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> You have to obtain the temperature of the Sun to pull that off. As
> soon as someone says cold fusion turn them off as their only purpose is
> to sell another government grant.
> Hydrogen is another fuel that take six times the energy to produce
> as it generates:
> http://witcombe.sbc.edu/water/chemis...ctrolysis.html But maybe
> someday.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Grumman-581 wrote:
>
>>I always figured that making ethanol from corn and putting it in
>>*cars* was a waste of good liquor... Corn liquor should be put in your
>>*stomach*...
>>
>>Once we perfect nuclear *fusion*, we'll be doing great... We'll have
>>enough extra energy to use that we can just produce hydrogen from
>>water via electrolysis... Converting an internal combustion engine to
>>run on hydrogen is not anywhere as complex as developing a fuel
>>cell... Of course, we're trading the complexity of developing a fuel
>>cell to the complexity of developing nuclear fusion... <grin>
>>
>>Of course, an added advantage of using hydrogen to power our cars is
>>that terrorism would be reduced since without the money from oil, the
>>Mid East would go back to being the *poor* camel ----in' Bedoins that
>>they have been throughout most of their history...
#232
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Re: OT BioDiesel
Eggshually you have to achieve temperatures higher than the sun's
corona...and that corona is several times higher than the temperature of
the sun itself. The sun is just a big hydrogen bomb that hasn't run out
of fuel but the fusion is only way down in the innards where the
pressure is enough to keep fusion going. To do fusion without that type
of pressure [that would require a solid unobtanium containment] you need
temperatures that make the sun look like an alaskan winter
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> You have to obtain the temperature of the Sun to pull that off. As
> soon as someone says cold fusion turn them off as their only purpose is
> to sell another government grant.
> Hydrogen is another fuel that take six times the energy to produce
> as it generates:
> http://witcombe.sbc.edu/water/chemis...ctrolysis.html But maybe
> someday.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Grumman-581 wrote:
>
>>I always figured that making ethanol from corn and putting it in
>>*cars* was a waste of good liquor... Corn liquor should be put in your
>>*stomach*...
>>
>>Once we perfect nuclear *fusion*, we'll be doing great... We'll have
>>enough extra energy to use that we can just produce hydrogen from
>>water via electrolysis... Converting an internal combustion engine to
>>run on hydrogen is not anywhere as complex as developing a fuel
>>cell... Of course, we're trading the complexity of developing a fuel
>>cell to the complexity of developing nuclear fusion... <grin>
>>
>>Of course, an added advantage of using hydrogen to power our cars is
>>that terrorism would be reduced since without the money from oil, the
>>Mid East would go back to being the *poor* camel ----in' Bedoins that
>>they have been throughout most of their history...
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Re: OT BioDiesel
Hmm, that is the same 700 ton NON-nuclear test that Utah is attempting
to prevent from happening at the Nevada test site because they are
worried about stirring up old debris from Frenchman Flats.
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> In our sabre rattling we are about to open a nuclear test site in
> Utah next month, the seven hundred ton is designed to leak a mushroom
> cloud, but not radioactive, sure:
> http://www.suujournal.com/vnews/disp.../44506c8fc8fd6
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Grumman-581 wrote:
>
>>Yeah, we've perfected it, but only as a weapon... Minor inconveniences
>>occur when it is not "contained"... <evil-grin>
>>
>>Nope, I was talking about *real* fusion, not the snake oil research of
>>'cold' fusion... If it was easy, we would already have it, right?
>>
>>Yeah, electrolysis is not efficient, but with a cheap enough
>>electrical energy source available, it might still be acceptable...
>>Maybe more efficient photovoltic array or fusion might give us this
>>though... I'm not holding my breath though... Until then, I'm burning
>>dyno juice...
>>
>>And maybe bio-diesel in any diesel that I might own...
#234
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Re: OT BioDiesel
Hmm, that is the same 700 ton NON-nuclear test that Utah is attempting
to prevent from happening at the Nevada test site because they are
worried about stirring up old debris from Frenchman Flats.
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> In our sabre rattling we are about to open a nuclear test site in
> Utah next month, the seven hundred ton is designed to leak a mushroom
> cloud, but not radioactive, sure:
> http://www.suujournal.com/vnews/disp.../44506c8fc8fd6
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Grumman-581 wrote:
>
>>Yeah, we've perfected it, but only as a weapon... Minor inconveniences
>>occur when it is not "contained"... <evil-grin>
>>
>>Nope, I was talking about *real* fusion, not the snake oil research of
>>'cold' fusion... If it was easy, we would already have it, right?
>>
>>Yeah, electrolysis is not efficient, but with a cheap enough
>>electrical energy source available, it might still be acceptable...
>>Maybe more efficient photovoltic array or fusion might give us this
>>though... I'm not holding my breath though... Until then, I'm burning
>>dyno juice...
>>
>>And maybe bio-diesel in any diesel that I might own...
#235
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Re: OT BioDiesel
Hmm, that is the same 700 ton NON-nuclear test that Utah is attempting
to prevent from happening at the Nevada test site because they are
worried about stirring up old debris from Frenchman Flats.
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> In our sabre rattling we are about to open a nuclear test site in
> Utah next month, the seven hundred ton is designed to leak a mushroom
> cloud, but not radioactive, sure:
> http://www.suujournal.com/vnews/disp.../44506c8fc8fd6
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Grumman-581 wrote:
>
>>Yeah, we've perfected it, but only as a weapon... Minor inconveniences
>>occur when it is not "contained"... <evil-grin>
>>
>>Nope, I was talking about *real* fusion, not the snake oil research of
>>'cold' fusion... If it was easy, we would already have it, right?
>>
>>Yeah, electrolysis is not efficient, but with a cheap enough
>>electrical energy source available, it might still be acceptable...
>>Maybe more efficient photovoltic array or fusion might give us this
>>though... I'm not holding my breath though... Until then, I'm burning
>>dyno juice...
>>
>>And maybe bio-diesel in any diesel that I might own...
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Re: OT BioDiesel
Only if you add enough of Bill's hot air in the process.
Matt Macchiarolo proclaimed:
> So you boil petroleum simply from the friction of pumping it into the
> cracking tower?
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:44626863.E12DD1F5@***.net...
>
>> Haven't you ever rubbed your hands together? felt your compressor
>>tank?
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>>>Yeah, I was talking about heating it, but transporting it takes a lot of
>>>energy too, thanks for helping me make my point.
>
>
>
Matt Macchiarolo proclaimed:
> So you boil petroleum simply from the friction of pumping it into the
> cracking tower?
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:44626863.E12DD1F5@***.net...
>
>> Haven't you ever rubbed your hands together? felt your compressor
>>tank?
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>>>Yeah, I was talking about heating it, but transporting it takes a lot of
>>>energy too, thanks for helping me make my point.
>
>
>
#237
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Re: OT BioDiesel
Only if you add enough of Bill's hot air in the process.
Matt Macchiarolo proclaimed:
> So you boil petroleum simply from the friction of pumping it into the
> cracking tower?
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:44626863.E12DD1F5@***.net...
>
>> Haven't you ever rubbed your hands together? felt your compressor
>>tank?
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>>>Yeah, I was talking about heating it, but transporting it takes a lot of
>>>energy too, thanks for helping me make my point.
>
>
>
Matt Macchiarolo proclaimed:
> So you boil petroleum simply from the friction of pumping it into the
> cracking tower?
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:44626863.E12DD1F5@***.net...
>
>> Haven't you ever rubbed your hands together? felt your compressor
>>tank?
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>>>Yeah, I was talking about heating it, but transporting it takes a lot of
>>>energy too, thanks for helping me make my point.
>
>
>
#238
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Re: OT BioDiesel
Only if you add enough of Bill's hot air in the process.
Matt Macchiarolo proclaimed:
> So you boil petroleum simply from the friction of pumping it into the
> cracking tower?
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:44626863.E12DD1F5@***.net...
>
>> Haven't you ever rubbed your hands together? felt your compressor
>>tank?
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>>>Yeah, I was talking about heating it, but transporting it takes a lot of
>>>energy too, thanks for helping me make my point.
>
>
>
Matt Macchiarolo proclaimed:
> So you boil petroleum simply from the friction of pumping it into the
> cracking tower?
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:44626863.E12DD1F5@***.net...
>
>> Haven't you ever rubbed your hands together? felt your compressor
>>tank?
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>>>Yeah, I was talking about heating it, but transporting it takes a lot of
>>>energy too, thanks for helping me make my point.
>
>
>
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Re: OT BioDiesel
I was actually surprised to find out how little of our oil supply comes
from the mideast any more.
Vito proclaimed:
> "Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM-gmail.com> wrote
>
>>Of course, an added advantage of using hydrogen to power our cars is
>>that terrorism would be reduced since without the money from oil, the
>>Mid East would go back to being the *poor* camel ----in' Bedoins that
>>they have been throughout most of their history...
>
>
> I wish you were right but it's the dirt poor camel ----in Bedoins who are
> suicide bombers. They got little to loose. You don't see the royal Saudi
> family blowing themselves up and even Osama is staying out of sight.
>
>
from the mideast any more.
Vito proclaimed:
> "Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM-gmail.com> wrote
>
>>Of course, an added advantage of using hydrogen to power our cars is
>>that terrorism would be reduced since without the money from oil, the
>>Mid East would go back to being the *poor* camel ----in' Bedoins that
>>they have been throughout most of their history...
>
>
> I wish you were right but it's the dirt poor camel ----in Bedoins who are
> suicide bombers. They got little to loose. You don't see the royal Saudi
> family blowing themselves up and even Osama is staying out of sight.
>
>
#240
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Re: OT BioDiesel
I was actually surprised to find out how little of our oil supply comes
from the mideast any more.
Vito proclaimed:
> "Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM-gmail.com> wrote
>
>>Of course, an added advantage of using hydrogen to power our cars is
>>that terrorism would be reduced since without the money from oil, the
>>Mid East would go back to being the *poor* camel ----in' Bedoins that
>>they have been throughout most of their history...
>
>
> I wish you were right but it's the dirt poor camel ----in Bedoins who are
> suicide bombers. They got little to loose. You don't see the royal Saudi
> family blowing themselves up and even Osama is staying out of sight.
>
>
from the mideast any more.
Vito proclaimed:
> "Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM-gmail.com> wrote
>
>>Of course, an added advantage of using hydrogen to power our cars is
>>that terrorism would be reduced since without the money from oil, the
>>Mid East would go back to being the *poor* camel ----in' Bedoins that
>>they have been throughout most of their history...
>
>
> I wish you were right but it's the dirt poor camel ----in Bedoins who are
> suicide bombers. They got little to loose. You don't see the royal Saudi
> family blowing themselves up and even Osama is staying out of sight.
>
>