OT BioDiesel
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Re: OT BioDiesel
On Thu, 11 May 2006 00:13:27 -0700, "L.W.(Bill) ------ III"
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> A flume fire goes off like a blow torch, way too much to ask it
> flow through your eves.
Build the chimney out of concrete... None of this wimpy *** tin crap
with a certain distance between it and the nearest combustible object
in the *hope* that you don't have a chimney fire... Build you one that
Tim Allen would be proud of!
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> A flume fire goes off like a blow torch, way too much to ask it
> flow through your eves.
Build the chimney out of concrete... None of this wimpy *** tin crap
with a certain distance between it and the nearest combustible object
in the *hope* that you don't have a chimney fire... Build you one that
Tim Allen would be proud of!
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Re: OT BioDiesel
On Thu, 11 May 2006 00:13:27 -0700, "L.W.(Bill) ------ III"
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> A flume fire goes off like a blow torch, way too much to ask it
> flow through your eves.
Build the chimney out of concrete... None of this wimpy *** tin crap
with a certain distance between it and the nearest combustible object
in the *hope* that you don't have a chimney fire... Build you one that
Tim Allen would be proud of!
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> A flume fire goes off like a blow torch, way too much to ask it
> flow through your eves.
Build the chimney out of concrete... None of this wimpy *** tin crap
with a certain distance between it and the nearest combustible object
in the *hope* that you don't have a chimney fire... Build you one that
Tim Allen would be proud of!
#313
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Re: OT BioDiesel
On Thu, 11 May 2006 00:13:27 -0700, "L.W.(Bill) ------ III"
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> A flume fire goes off like a blow torch, way too much to ask it
> flow through your eves.
Build the chimney out of concrete... None of this wimpy *** tin crap
with a certain distance between it and the nearest combustible object
in the *hope* that you don't have a chimney fire... Build you one that
Tim Allen would be proud of!
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> A flume fire goes off like a blow torch, way too much to ask it
> flow through your eves.
Build the chimney out of concrete... None of this wimpy *** tin crap
with a certain distance between it and the nearest combustible object
in the *hope* that you don't have a chimney fire... Build you one that
Tim Allen would be proud of!
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Re: OT BioDiesel
That's what my Dad built, big enough for a chimney sweep. I
remember the eucalyptus resin would go off with the roar of a jet, I
think all we did was closed the dampener, and pull out a couple of logs.
It was our only source of heat, while I was growing up:
http://www.----------.com/temp/dadsFireplace.jpg I looks a little risky,
but the plywood had fiberglass separators and vented top and bottom to
make like a force air circulation without use of a fan. My Son's:
http://www.----------.com/temp/------4506.jpg and his kids. Wish I had
taken a better picture of my Grandchildren.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Grumman-581 wrote:
>
> Build the chimney out of concrete... None of this wimpy *** tin crap
> with a certain distance between it and the nearest combustible object
> in the *hope* that you don't have a chimney fire... Build you one that
> Tim Allen would be proud of!
remember the eucalyptus resin would go off with the roar of a jet, I
think all we did was closed the dampener, and pull out a couple of logs.
It was our only source of heat, while I was growing up:
http://www.----------.com/temp/dadsFireplace.jpg I looks a little risky,
but the plywood had fiberglass separators and vented top and bottom to
make like a force air circulation without use of a fan. My Son's:
http://www.----------.com/temp/------4506.jpg and his kids. Wish I had
taken a better picture of my Grandchildren.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Grumman-581 wrote:
>
> Build the chimney out of concrete... None of this wimpy *** tin crap
> with a certain distance between it and the nearest combustible object
> in the *hope* that you don't have a chimney fire... Build you one that
> Tim Allen would be proud of!
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Re: OT BioDiesel
That's what my Dad built, big enough for a chimney sweep. I
remember the eucalyptus resin would go off with the roar of a jet, I
think all we did was closed the dampener, and pull out a couple of logs.
It was our only source of heat, while I was growing up:
http://www.----------.com/temp/dadsFireplace.jpg I looks a little risky,
but the plywood had fiberglass separators and vented top and bottom to
make like a force air circulation without use of a fan. My Son's:
http://www.----------.com/temp/------4506.jpg and his kids. Wish I had
taken a better picture of my Grandchildren.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Grumman-581 wrote:
>
> Build the chimney out of concrete... None of this wimpy *** tin crap
> with a certain distance between it and the nearest combustible object
> in the *hope* that you don't have a chimney fire... Build you one that
> Tim Allen would be proud of!
remember the eucalyptus resin would go off with the roar of a jet, I
think all we did was closed the dampener, and pull out a couple of logs.
It was our only source of heat, while I was growing up:
http://www.----------.com/temp/dadsFireplace.jpg I looks a little risky,
but the plywood had fiberglass separators and vented top and bottom to
make like a force air circulation without use of a fan. My Son's:
http://www.----------.com/temp/------4506.jpg and his kids. Wish I had
taken a better picture of my Grandchildren.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Grumman-581 wrote:
>
> Build the chimney out of concrete... None of this wimpy *** tin crap
> with a certain distance between it and the nearest combustible object
> in the *hope* that you don't have a chimney fire... Build you one that
> Tim Allen would be proud of!
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Re: OT BioDiesel
That's what my Dad built, big enough for a chimney sweep. I
remember the eucalyptus resin would go off with the roar of a jet, I
think all we did was closed the dampener, and pull out a couple of logs.
It was our only source of heat, while I was growing up:
http://www.----------.com/temp/dadsFireplace.jpg I looks a little risky,
but the plywood had fiberglass separators and vented top and bottom to
make like a force air circulation without use of a fan. My Son's:
http://www.----------.com/temp/------4506.jpg and his kids. Wish I had
taken a better picture of my Grandchildren.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Grumman-581 wrote:
>
> Build the chimney out of concrete... None of this wimpy *** tin crap
> with a certain distance between it and the nearest combustible object
> in the *hope* that you don't have a chimney fire... Build you one that
> Tim Allen would be proud of!
remember the eucalyptus resin would go off with the roar of a jet, I
think all we did was closed the dampener, and pull out a couple of logs.
It was our only source of heat, while I was growing up:
http://www.----------.com/temp/dadsFireplace.jpg I looks a little risky,
but the plywood had fiberglass separators and vented top and bottom to
make like a force air circulation without use of a fan. My Son's:
http://www.----------.com/temp/------4506.jpg and his kids. Wish I had
taken a better picture of my Grandchildren.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Grumman-581 wrote:
>
> Build the chimney out of concrete... None of this wimpy *** tin crap
> with a certain distance between it and the nearest combustible object
> in the *hope* that you don't have a chimney fire... Build you one that
> Tim Allen would be proud of!
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Re: OT BioDiesel
In article <L5adnWWX7Ol0Pf_ZnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com>,
Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:
#Oil burners were way cleaner than burning uncured softwoods in furnaces,
# fireplaces, room stoves, etc. Rarely did our local fire department
#get a chimney fire call for oil burning houses, but wood burning ones
#happened all the time. In a year, a big wood furnace would put about
#an inch of gunk on the inside of the chimney.
That reminds me, several of my in-laws have catalytic converters
in their fireplace chimneys. You pull out a bypass rod until the
fire is hot enough and then push it back in when the temp sensing
fan starts up. The smoke goes to zilch. I wonder how well it
would work with unseasoned wood.
/herb
Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:
#Oil burners were way cleaner than burning uncured softwoods in furnaces,
# fireplaces, room stoves, etc. Rarely did our local fire department
#get a chimney fire call for oil burning houses, but wood burning ones
#happened all the time. In a year, a big wood furnace would put about
#an inch of gunk on the inside of the chimney.
That reminds me, several of my in-laws have catalytic converters
in their fireplace chimneys. You pull out a bypass rod until the
fire is hot enough and then push it back in when the temp sensing
fan starts up. The smoke goes to zilch. I wonder how well it
would work with unseasoned wood.
/herb
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Re: OT BioDiesel
In article <L5adnWWX7Ol0Pf_ZnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com>,
Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:
#Oil burners were way cleaner than burning uncured softwoods in furnaces,
# fireplaces, room stoves, etc. Rarely did our local fire department
#get a chimney fire call for oil burning houses, but wood burning ones
#happened all the time. In a year, a big wood furnace would put about
#an inch of gunk on the inside of the chimney.
That reminds me, several of my in-laws have catalytic converters
in their fireplace chimneys. You pull out a bypass rod until the
fire is hot enough and then push it back in when the temp sensing
fan starts up. The smoke goes to zilch. I wonder how well it
would work with unseasoned wood.
/herb
Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:
#Oil burners were way cleaner than burning uncured softwoods in furnaces,
# fireplaces, room stoves, etc. Rarely did our local fire department
#get a chimney fire call for oil burning houses, but wood burning ones
#happened all the time. In a year, a big wood furnace would put about
#an inch of gunk on the inside of the chimney.
That reminds me, several of my in-laws have catalytic converters
in their fireplace chimneys. You pull out a bypass rod until the
fire is hot enough and then push it back in when the temp sensing
fan starts up. The smoke goes to zilch. I wonder how well it
would work with unseasoned wood.
/herb
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Re: OT BioDiesel
In article <L5adnWWX7Ol0Pf_ZnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com>,
Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:
#Oil burners were way cleaner than burning uncured softwoods in furnaces,
# fireplaces, room stoves, etc. Rarely did our local fire department
#get a chimney fire call for oil burning houses, but wood burning ones
#happened all the time. In a year, a big wood furnace would put about
#an inch of gunk on the inside of the chimney.
That reminds me, several of my in-laws have catalytic converters
in their fireplace chimneys. You pull out a bypass rod until the
fire is hot enough and then push it back in when the temp sensing
fan starts up. The smoke goes to zilch. I wonder how well it
would work with unseasoned wood.
/herb
Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:
#Oil burners were way cleaner than burning uncured softwoods in furnaces,
# fireplaces, room stoves, etc. Rarely did our local fire department
#get a chimney fire call for oil burning houses, but wood burning ones
#happened all the time. In a year, a big wood furnace would put about
#an inch of gunk on the inside of the chimney.
That reminds me, several of my in-laws have catalytic converters
in their fireplace chimneys. You pull out a bypass rod until the
fire is hot enough and then push it back in when the temp sensing
fan starts up. The smoke goes to zilch. I wonder how well it
would work with unseasoned wood.
/herb
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Re: Very OT BioDiesel
"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM-gmail.com> wrote
"Vito" <vito@crosslink.net> wrote:
> > I wish you were right but it's the dirt poor camel ----in Bedoins who are
> > suicide bombers. They got little to loose. You don't see the royal Saudi
> > family blowing themselves up and even Osama is staying out of sight.
>
> Like any other endeavor, terrorism requires money... Without the money
> from oil coming into the country, I seriously doubt that there would
> be much in the way of terrorism being exported... In addition, without
> the need for their oil, we could just let them alone and they could
> ponder the more important things in life... Like whether camels or
> sheep are better ----s... <snicker>
Again, I wish you were right. Arming and deploying a suicide bomber is pretty
cheap - cheap enough that no oil money is really needed. What did 9/11 cost the
Islamic Jihad? A few $1000?
The main threat comes from the religious fanatics not the oil sheiks. The hard
core, like bin Ladin and company, yearn for "the good old days" when Islam
controled all of Africa, part of Europe including Spain, et al. Heartened by
their success against the USSR in Afghanistan their first goal is to
re-establish that Califate, then to conquer the rest of the world. That'd be
bad enough if they were just maniacs like Stalin or Hitler but they are far
worse - they are religious extremists who thought tthe Taliban were too
liberal!!
They do not like the oil barons because they do not willingly give the oil money
to support this radical jihad. Worse yet they allow their women to read. Bush
would like to tie Saddam to bin Ladin to justify his blunder but the fact is
they are bitter enemies like Hitler and Stalin. Bin Ladin had called for
Saddam's murder and the oil sheiks are terrified of them.
Money wise, they are much like our home grown terrorists - the ones who bomb
abortion clinics out of misguided religeous zeal. There's a hard core,
supported financially and morally by a huge less-fanatical group much like the
Methodist and other churchs quietly support U.S. anti-gun cranks like the Brady
Bunch. Look how much Christianity is exported without any oil money. So if we
could somehow magically quit buying middle-eastern oil the jihad would still go
on, just as Christian prothelization goes on. It's very dangerous to think this
enemy are a bunch of stupid ragheads who depend on oil. Some of the criminally
insane are quite intellegent, and therefore twice dangerous. Like child
molesters, there is only one way to deal with them.
Bottom line is we may as well enjoy mid-east oil while we can.
"Vito" <vito@crosslink.net> wrote:
> > I wish you were right but it's the dirt poor camel ----in Bedoins who are
> > suicide bombers. They got little to loose. You don't see the royal Saudi
> > family blowing themselves up and even Osama is staying out of sight.
>
> Like any other endeavor, terrorism requires money... Without the money
> from oil coming into the country, I seriously doubt that there would
> be much in the way of terrorism being exported... In addition, without
> the need for their oil, we could just let them alone and they could
> ponder the more important things in life... Like whether camels or
> sheep are better ----s... <snicker>
Again, I wish you were right. Arming and deploying a suicide bomber is pretty
cheap - cheap enough that no oil money is really needed. What did 9/11 cost the
Islamic Jihad? A few $1000?
The main threat comes from the religious fanatics not the oil sheiks. The hard
core, like bin Ladin and company, yearn for "the good old days" when Islam
controled all of Africa, part of Europe including Spain, et al. Heartened by
their success against the USSR in Afghanistan their first goal is to
re-establish that Califate, then to conquer the rest of the world. That'd be
bad enough if they were just maniacs like Stalin or Hitler but they are far
worse - they are religious extremists who thought tthe Taliban were too
liberal!!
They do not like the oil barons because they do not willingly give the oil money
to support this radical jihad. Worse yet they allow their women to read. Bush
would like to tie Saddam to bin Ladin to justify his blunder but the fact is
they are bitter enemies like Hitler and Stalin. Bin Ladin had called for
Saddam's murder and the oil sheiks are terrified of them.
Money wise, they are much like our home grown terrorists - the ones who bomb
abortion clinics out of misguided religeous zeal. There's a hard core,
supported financially and morally by a huge less-fanatical group much like the
Methodist and other churchs quietly support U.S. anti-gun cranks like the Brady
Bunch. Look how much Christianity is exported without any oil money. So if we
could somehow magically quit buying middle-eastern oil the jihad would still go
on, just as Christian prothelization goes on. It's very dangerous to think this
enemy are a bunch of stupid ragheads who depend on oil. Some of the criminally
insane are quite intellegent, and therefore twice dangerous. Like child
molesters, there is only one way to deal with them.
Bottom line is we may as well enjoy mid-east oil while we can.