OT BioDiesel
05-10-2006, 01:37 AM
#151
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Re: OT BioDiesel
There were about twenty five hundred missiles that fired off with
their homes here in the San Diego fire a couple of years ago. Kevin of
San Diego's back porch:
http://www.----------.com/temp/CaliforniaFire.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Earle Horton wrote:
>
> You should see what a builder tried to pull off in Silverton, with an LPG
> tank in the basement of a new multiple unit apartment building. Fire chief
> caught him, and now the units are getting safe and clean electrical heat.
> They are not all slack jawed ignorant yokels here. ;^)
>
> The old kerosene stoves are most of them rusted out by now, the burners
> being made of sheet steel. Good thing too. Modern oil furnaces use a
> spring loaded valve with a threaded stem, and a handle that melts at a low
> temperature. When things get hot, the center of the handle melts, the stem
> pops into the valve, and the oil supply is shut off.
>
> Earle
their homes here in the San Diego fire a couple of years ago. Kevin of
San Diego's back porch:
http://www.----------.com/temp/CaliforniaFire.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> You should see what a builder tried to pull off in Silverton, with an LPG
> tank in the basement of a new multiple unit apartment building. Fire chief
> caught him, and now the units are getting safe and clean electrical heat.
> They are not all slack jawed ignorant yokels here. ;^)
>
> The old kerosene stoves are most of them rusted out by now, the burners
> being made of sheet steel. Good thing too. Modern oil furnaces use a
> spring loaded valve with a threaded stem, and a handle that melts at a low
> temperature. When things get hot, the center of the handle melts, the stem
> pops into the valve, and the oil supply is shut off.
>
> Earle
05-10-2006, 03:57 AM
#152
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Re: OT BioDiesel
On Tue, 9 May 2006 23:25:26 -0600, "Earle Horton"
<NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote:
> You should see what a builder tried to pull off in Silverton, with an LPG
> tank in the basement of a new multiple unit apartment building. Fire chief
> caught him, and now the units are getting safe and clean electrical heat.
> They are not all slack jawed ignorant yokels here. ;^)
"Safe and clean electrical heat"? Surely you're not so stupid that
you believe that! Every source of heat has it's risks... As if
electrical fires are enough of a risk, just consider the concept of
freezing your butt off because of a power outage... I responsible
house design will have both gas and electricity... Each serve their
own purposes and can somewhat act as a backup for the other in
emergencies... I would hazard to guess that more people are killed
each year using electrical power to heat their homes than are killed
from heating with gas... Seems like every year I hear about a few
fires from electrical heating... I can't recall the last time I heard
of any gas fires...On the other hand, it seems that BBQing (i.e.
charcoal and starter fluid) on apartment balconies is rather
detrimental to a couple of apartment complexes each year... No matter
how many times you warn them, some people just do not understand...
<NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote:
> You should see what a builder tried to pull off in Silverton, with an LPG
> tank in the basement of a new multiple unit apartment building. Fire chief
> caught him, and now the units are getting safe and clean electrical heat.
> They are not all slack jawed ignorant yokels here. ;^)
"Safe and clean electrical heat"? Surely you're not so stupid that
you believe that! Every source of heat has it's risks... As if
electrical fires are enough of a risk, just consider the concept of
freezing your butt off because of a power outage... I responsible
house design will have both gas and electricity... Each serve their
own purposes and can somewhat act as a backup for the other in
emergencies... I would hazard to guess that more people are killed
each year using electrical power to heat their homes than are killed
from heating with gas... Seems like every year I hear about a few
fires from electrical heating... I can't recall the last time I heard
of any gas fires...On the other hand, it seems that BBQing (i.e.
charcoal and starter fluid) on apartment balconies is rather
detrimental to a couple of apartment complexes each year... No matter
how many times you warn them, some people just do not understand...
05-10-2006, 03:57 AM
#153
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Re: OT BioDiesel
On Tue, 9 May 2006 23:25:26 -0600, "Earle Horton"
<NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote:
> You should see what a builder tried to pull off in Silverton, with an LPG
> tank in the basement of a new multiple unit apartment building. Fire chief
> caught him, and now the units are getting safe and clean electrical heat.
> They are not all slack jawed ignorant yokels here. ;^)
"Safe and clean electrical heat"? Surely you're not so stupid that
you believe that! Every source of heat has it's risks... As if
electrical fires are enough of a risk, just consider the concept of
freezing your butt off because of a power outage... I responsible
house design will have both gas and electricity... Each serve their
own purposes and can somewhat act as a backup for the other in
emergencies... I would hazard to guess that more people are killed
each year using electrical power to heat their homes than are killed
from heating with gas... Seems like every year I hear about a few
fires from electrical heating... I can't recall the last time I heard
of any gas fires...On the other hand, it seems that BBQing (i.e.
charcoal and starter fluid) on apartment balconies is rather
detrimental to a couple of apartment complexes each year... No matter
how many times you warn them, some people just do not understand...
<NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote:
> You should see what a builder tried to pull off in Silverton, with an LPG
> tank in the basement of a new multiple unit apartment building. Fire chief
> caught him, and now the units are getting safe and clean electrical heat.
> They are not all slack jawed ignorant yokels here. ;^)
"Safe and clean electrical heat"? Surely you're not so stupid that
you believe that! Every source of heat has it's risks... As if
electrical fires are enough of a risk, just consider the concept of
freezing your butt off because of a power outage... I responsible
house design will have both gas and electricity... Each serve their
own purposes and can somewhat act as a backup for the other in
emergencies... I would hazard to guess that more people are killed
each year using electrical power to heat their homes than are killed
from heating with gas... Seems like every year I hear about a few
fires from electrical heating... I can't recall the last time I heard
of any gas fires...On the other hand, it seems that BBQing (i.e.
charcoal and starter fluid) on apartment balconies is rather
detrimental to a couple of apartment complexes each year... No matter
how many times you warn them, some people just do not understand...
05-10-2006, 03:57 AM
#154
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Re: OT BioDiesel
On Tue, 9 May 2006 23:25:26 -0600, "Earle Horton"
<NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote:
> You should see what a builder tried to pull off in Silverton, with an LPG
> tank in the basement of a new multiple unit apartment building. Fire chief
> caught him, and now the units are getting safe and clean electrical heat.
> They are not all slack jawed ignorant yokels here. ;^)
"Safe and clean electrical heat"? Surely you're not so stupid that
you believe that! Every source of heat has it's risks... As if
electrical fires are enough of a risk, just consider the concept of
freezing your butt off because of a power outage... I responsible
house design will have both gas and electricity... Each serve their
own purposes and can somewhat act as a backup for the other in
emergencies... I would hazard to guess that more people are killed
each year using electrical power to heat their homes than are killed
from heating with gas... Seems like every year I hear about a few
fires from electrical heating... I can't recall the last time I heard
of any gas fires...On the other hand, it seems that BBQing (i.e.
charcoal and starter fluid) on apartment balconies is rather
detrimental to a couple of apartment complexes each year... No matter
how many times you warn them, some people just do not understand...
<NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote:
> You should see what a builder tried to pull off in Silverton, with an LPG
> tank in the basement of a new multiple unit apartment building. Fire chief
> caught him, and now the units are getting safe and clean electrical heat.
> They are not all slack jawed ignorant yokels here. ;^)
"Safe and clean electrical heat"? Surely you're not so stupid that
you believe that! Every source of heat has it's risks... As if
electrical fires are enough of a risk, just consider the concept of
freezing your butt off because of a power outage... I responsible
house design will have both gas and electricity... Each serve their
own purposes and can somewhat act as a backup for the other in
emergencies... I would hazard to guess that more people are killed
each year using electrical power to heat their homes than are killed
from heating with gas... Seems like every year I hear about a few
fires from electrical heating... I can't recall the last time I heard
of any gas fires...On the other hand, it seems that BBQing (i.e.
charcoal and starter fluid) on apartment balconies is rather
detrimental to a couple of apartment complexes each year... No matter
how many times you warn them, some people just do not understand...
05-10-2006, 04:49 AM
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Re: OT BioDiesel
I'm sure Earle was hitting you with a little sarcasm. I remember
the commercials for the new clean air homes in Southern California,
about when we got a nuclear plates in the early fifties. and we all
converted to next to useless ceiling heat, with no gas stoves or water
heaters. Then the environmentalist wackos got to work driving this too
cheap to meter electricity out through the roof.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Grumman-581 wrote:
>
> "Safe and clean electrical heat"? Surely you're not so stupid that
> you believe that! Every source of heat has it's risks... As if
> electrical fires are enough of a risk, just consider the concept of
> freezing your butt off because of a power outage... I responsible
> house design will have both gas and electricity... Each serve their
> own purposes and can somewhat act as a backup for the other in
> emergencies... I would hazard to guess that more people are killed
> each year using electrical power to heat their homes than are killed
> from heating with gas... Seems like every year I hear about a few
> fires from electrical heating... I can't recall the last time I heard
> of any gas fires...On the other hand, it seems that BBQing (i.e.
> charcoal and starter fluid) on apartment balconies is rather
> detrimental to a couple of apartment complexes each year... No matter
> how many times you warn them, some people just do not understand...
the commercials for the new clean air homes in Southern California,
about when we got a nuclear plates in the early fifties. and we all
converted to next to useless ceiling heat, with no gas stoves or water
heaters. Then the environmentalist wackos got to work driving this too
cheap to meter electricity out through the roof.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Grumman-581 wrote:
>
> "Safe and clean electrical heat"? Surely you're not so stupid that
> you believe that! Every source of heat has it's risks... As if
> electrical fires are enough of a risk, just consider the concept of
> freezing your butt off because of a power outage... I responsible
> house design will have both gas and electricity... Each serve their
> own purposes and can somewhat act as a backup for the other in
> emergencies... I would hazard to guess that more people are killed
> each year using electrical power to heat their homes than are killed
> from heating with gas... Seems like every year I hear about a few
> fires from electrical heating... I can't recall the last time I heard
> of any gas fires...On the other hand, it seems that BBQing (i.e.
> charcoal and starter fluid) on apartment balconies is rather
> detrimental to a couple of apartment complexes each year... No matter
> how many times you warn them, some people just do not understand...
05-10-2006, 04:49 AM
#156
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Re: OT BioDiesel
I'm sure Earle was hitting you with a little sarcasm. I remember
the commercials for the new clean air homes in Southern California,
about when we got a nuclear plates in the early fifties. and we all
converted to next to useless ceiling heat, with no gas stoves or water
heaters. Then the environmentalist wackos got to work driving this too
cheap to meter electricity out through the roof.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Grumman-581 wrote:
>
> "Safe and clean electrical heat"? Surely you're not so stupid that
> you believe that! Every source of heat has it's risks... As if
> electrical fires are enough of a risk, just consider the concept of
> freezing your butt off because of a power outage... I responsible
> house design will have both gas and electricity... Each serve their
> own purposes and can somewhat act as a backup for the other in
> emergencies... I would hazard to guess that more people are killed
> each year using electrical power to heat their homes than are killed
> from heating with gas... Seems like every year I hear about a few
> fires from electrical heating... I can't recall the last time I heard
> of any gas fires...On the other hand, it seems that BBQing (i.e.
> charcoal and starter fluid) on apartment balconies is rather
> detrimental to a couple of apartment complexes each year... No matter
> how many times you warn them, some people just do not understand...
the commercials for the new clean air homes in Southern California,
about when we got a nuclear plates in the early fifties. and we all
converted to next to useless ceiling heat, with no gas stoves or water
heaters. Then the environmentalist wackos got to work driving this too
cheap to meter electricity out through the roof.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Grumman-581 wrote:
>
> "Safe and clean electrical heat"? Surely you're not so stupid that
> you believe that! Every source of heat has it's risks... As if
> electrical fires are enough of a risk, just consider the concept of
> freezing your butt off because of a power outage... I responsible
> house design will have both gas and electricity... Each serve their
> own purposes and can somewhat act as a backup for the other in
> emergencies... I would hazard to guess that more people are killed
> each year using electrical power to heat their homes than are killed
> from heating with gas... Seems like every year I hear about a few
> fires from electrical heating... I can't recall the last time I heard
> of any gas fires...On the other hand, it seems that BBQing (i.e.
> charcoal and starter fluid) on apartment balconies is rather
> detrimental to a couple of apartment complexes each year... No matter
> how many times you warn them, some people just do not understand...
05-10-2006, 04:49 AM
#157
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Re: OT BioDiesel
I'm sure Earle was hitting you with a little sarcasm. I remember
the commercials for the new clean air homes in Southern California,
about when we got a nuclear plates in the early fifties. and we all
converted to next to useless ceiling heat, with no gas stoves or water
heaters. Then the environmentalist wackos got to work driving this too
cheap to meter electricity out through the roof.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Grumman-581 wrote:
>
> "Safe and clean electrical heat"? Surely you're not so stupid that
> you believe that! Every source of heat has it's risks... As if
> electrical fires are enough of a risk, just consider the concept of
> freezing your butt off because of a power outage... I responsible
> house design will have both gas and electricity... Each serve their
> own purposes and can somewhat act as a backup for the other in
> emergencies... I would hazard to guess that more people are killed
> each year using electrical power to heat their homes than are killed
> from heating with gas... Seems like every year I hear about a few
> fires from electrical heating... I can't recall the last time I heard
> of any gas fires...On the other hand, it seems that BBQing (i.e.
> charcoal and starter fluid) on apartment balconies is rather
> detrimental to a couple of apartment complexes each year... No matter
> how many times you warn them, some people just do not understand...
the commercials for the new clean air homes in Southern California,
about when we got a nuclear plates in the early fifties. and we all
converted to next to useless ceiling heat, with no gas stoves or water
heaters. Then the environmentalist wackos got to work driving this too
cheap to meter electricity out through the roof.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Grumman-581 wrote:
>
> "Safe and clean electrical heat"? Surely you're not so stupid that
> you believe that! Every source of heat has it's risks... As if
> electrical fires are enough of a risk, just consider the concept of
> freezing your butt off because of a power outage... I responsible
> house design will have both gas and electricity... Each serve their
> own purposes and can somewhat act as a backup for the other in
> emergencies... I would hazard to guess that more people are killed
> each year using electrical power to heat their homes than are killed
> from heating with gas... Seems like every year I hear about a few
> fires from electrical heating... I can't recall the last time I heard
> of any gas fires...On the other hand, it seems that BBQing (i.e.
> charcoal and starter fluid) on apartment balconies is rather
> detrimental to a couple of apartment complexes each year... No matter
> how many times you warn them, some people just do not understand...
05-10-2006, 06:35 AM
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Re: OT BioDiesel
"This is done by heating the crude oil to a temperature at which much of it
will boil." How? Solar power?
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44617320.56A99656@***.net...
> Actually the cracker uses gravity:
> http://www.energyinst.org.uk/educati...as/chemist.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jason Backshall wrote:
>>
>> Not forgetting Bill that the refining process for standard ULP (or
>> gasoline
>> as you guys refer to it) is also an energy-intensive process.
>>
>> http://www.fuelcellmarkets.com/artic...63&subsite=453
>>
>> http://www.transperth.wa.gov.au/Default.aspx?tabid=55
will boil." How? Solar power?
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44617320.56A99656@***.net...
> Actually the cracker uses gravity:
> http://www.energyinst.org.uk/educati...as/chemist.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jason Backshall wrote:
>>
>> Not forgetting Bill that the refining process for standard ULP (or
>> gasoline
>> as you guys refer to it) is also an energy-intensive process.
>>
>> http://www.fuelcellmarkets.com/artic...63&subsite=453
>>
>> http://www.transperth.wa.gov.au/Default.aspx?tabid=55
05-10-2006, 06:35 AM
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Re: OT BioDiesel
"This is done by heating the crude oil to a temperature at which much of it
will boil." How? Solar power?
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44617320.56A99656@***.net...
> Actually the cracker uses gravity:
> http://www.energyinst.org.uk/educati...as/chemist.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jason Backshall wrote:
>>
>> Not forgetting Bill that the refining process for standard ULP (or
>> gasoline
>> as you guys refer to it) is also an energy-intensive process.
>>
>> http://www.fuelcellmarkets.com/artic...63&subsite=453
>>
>> http://www.transperth.wa.gov.au/Default.aspx?tabid=55
will boil." How? Solar power?
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44617320.56A99656@***.net...
> Actually the cracker uses gravity:
> http://www.energyinst.org.uk/educati...as/chemist.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jason Backshall wrote:
>>
>> Not forgetting Bill that the refining process for standard ULP (or
>> gasoline
>> as you guys refer to it) is also an energy-intensive process.
>>
>> http://www.fuelcellmarkets.com/artic...63&subsite=453
>>
>> http://www.transperth.wa.gov.au/Default.aspx?tabid=55
05-10-2006, 06:35 AM
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Re: OT BioDiesel
"This is done by heating the crude oil to a temperature at which much of it
will boil." How? Solar power?
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44617320.56A99656@***.net...
> Actually the cracker uses gravity:
> http://www.energyinst.org.uk/educati...as/chemist.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jason Backshall wrote:
>>
>> Not forgetting Bill that the refining process for standard ULP (or
>> gasoline
>> as you guys refer to it) is also an energy-intensive process.
>>
>> http://www.fuelcellmarkets.com/artic...63&subsite=453
>>
>> http://www.transperth.wa.gov.au/Default.aspx?tabid=55
will boil." How? Solar power?
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44617320.56A99656@***.net...
> Actually the cracker uses gravity:
> http://www.energyinst.org.uk/educati...as/chemist.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jason Backshall wrote:
>>
>> Not forgetting Bill that the refining process for standard ULP (or
>> gasoline
>> as you guys refer to it) is also an energy-intensive process.
>>
>> http://www.fuelcellmarkets.com/artic...63&subsite=453
>>
>> http://www.transperth.wa.gov.au/Default.aspx?tabid=55