Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 

On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 23:40:14 GMT, "Nathan Collier"
<JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> shared the following:

>"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:t0g8qvg6cvqt3d4u3sflgsrtb1bjf2f6pc@4ax.com.. .
>> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/temp/ohcrap.jpg
>
>im somewhat lost here travis. i dont understand why you would be winching
>it down the hill?

We winched it sideways to get the back passenger side tire off of the
wall it was up on, to drop it down more level so that it wouldn't
roll. Look at the picture. See where the back driver's side tire is?
Now picture where the back passenger side tire is. It was WAAAY up
there which is what was causing the Jeep to try to tip over. When we
winched the rear-end sideways it brought the back passenger side tire
down so that it was able to be driven down the hill. We both talked
about it for 3-4 minutes before doing it. It really wasn't that easy
to keep up the amount of pressure to keep it from rolling over while
we were talking. We may not have made the best choice, but the choice
we made to rescue the Jeep worked out GREAT. I'm very happy with the
outcome of it all. Where do you think we should have winched it from?
David couldn't get to a point so that he was above me so he had to
winch from below. If he pulled straight back then the rear tire would
have climbed higher up on the wall and it would have rolled in a
heartbeat. Maybe this was one of those "you had to be there" things?
I feel like y'all just don't quite believe what I explained happened.
:-/


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Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 

On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 15:52:39 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> shared the following:

> Believe me, people don't hop on Jeep if they think it's going over:
>http://www.----------.com/sidehill.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:--------------------

I was there. You weren't. I didn't lie at all about what happened.
I'm genuinely sad for you if you're too senile to understand that. I
thought my Jeep was going over. I *did* stop it from going over. I
guess I'm just a little tougher that you ever were, Billy. :-) Deal
with it.

>
>travis wrote:
>>
>> Are you hitting the Vicodin again? Do you not see the guy in the
>> picture holding the Jeep down? That puppy was going OVER until I
>> stopped it. Period. If you wanna be an ass about it and try to be
>> cute, then knock yourself out.


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Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 

On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 15:52:39 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> shared the following:

> Believe me, people don't hop on Jeep if they think it's going over:
>http://www.----------.com/sidehill.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:--------------------

I was there. You weren't. I didn't lie at all about what happened.
I'm genuinely sad for you if you're too senile to understand that. I
thought my Jeep was going over. I *did* stop it from going over. I
guess I'm just a little tougher that you ever were, Billy. :-) Deal
with it.

>
>travis wrote:
>>
>> Are you hitting the Vicodin again? Do you not see the guy in the
>> picture holding the Jeep down? That puppy was going OVER until I
>> stopped it. Period. If you wanna be an ass about it and try to be
>> cute, then knock yourself out.


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Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 

On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 15:52:39 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> shared the following:

> Believe me, people don't hop on Jeep if they think it's going over:
>http://www.----------.com/sidehill.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:--------------------

I was there. You weren't. I didn't lie at all about what happened.
I'm genuinely sad for you if you're too senile to understand that. I
thought my Jeep was going over. I *did* stop it from going over. I
guess I'm just a little tougher that you ever were, Billy. :-) Deal
with it.

>
>travis wrote:
>>
>> Are you hitting the Vicodin again? Do you not see the guy in the
>> picture holding the Jeep down? That puppy was going OVER until I
>> stopped it. Period. If you wanna be an ass about it and try to be
>> cute, then knock yourself out.


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Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 

On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 00:24:16 GMT, "D McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com>
shared the following:

>Horse Hockey bill,
>
>I've had two different instances at Tellico where people from the crown
>jumped onto the front of my Jeep in order to keep it from rolling. Once on
>Slick Rock and once on School Bus. I'm not saying it's the smart thing for
>them to do, but spectators are ALWAYS wanting in on the action. As an EROCC
>official that's one of my biggest problems, crowd intervention. Adrenalin
>does strange things to some people.
>
>Daren

Thanks, Daren. I can't help getting a little defensive when um...
I WAS THERE and I know what happened and someone tries to say I'm full
of crap. Like I said, I have a witness to the whole thing, too. I
think part of the reason I may be as defensive about this one was that
it was the first time I've ever really gotten SCARED doing this stuff.
I really thought I was gonna break a few bones at a minimum as a
result of this predicament. I never claimed to be a pro at
offroading. I *do* claim that my word is good and if I say that the
damned Jeep was this -----><---- close to rolling over and that it
took everything I had to keep it from doing just that, then that's
EXACTLY what happened. I don't appreciate bill basically calling me a
liar about the whole thing.


>
>"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:3FA44747.CF96AF6F@cox.net...
>>
>
>Believe me, people don't hop on Jeep if they think it's going over:
>> http://www.----------.com/sidehill.jpg
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:--------------------
>>
>> travis wrote:
>> >
>> > Are you hitting the Vicodin again? Do you not see the guy in the
>> > picture holding the Jeep down? That puppy was going OVER until I
>> > stopped it. Period. If you wanna be an ass about it and try to be
>> > cute, then knock yourself out.
>


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Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 

On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 00:24:16 GMT, "D McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com>
shared the following:

>Horse Hockey bill,
>
>I've had two different instances at Tellico where people from the crown
>jumped onto the front of my Jeep in order to keep it from rolling. Once on
>Slick Rock and once on School Bus. I'm not saying it's the smart thing for
>them to do, but spectators are ALWAYS wanting in on the action. As an EROCC
>official that's one of my biggest problems, crowd intervention. Adrenalin
>does strange things to some people.
>
>Daren

Thanks, Daren. I can't help getting a little defensive when um...
I WAS THERE and I know what happened and someone tries to say I'm full
of crap. Like I said, I have a witness to the whole thing, too. I
think part of the reason I may be as defensive about this one was that
it was the first time I've ever really gotten SCARED doing this stuff.
I really thought I was gonna break a few bones at a minimum as a
result of this predicament. I never claimed to be a pro at
offroading. I *do* claim that my word is good and if I say that the
damned Jeep was this -----><---- close to rolling over and that it
took everything I had to keep it from doing just that, then that's
EXACTLY what happened. I don't appreciate bill basically calling me a
liar about the whole thing.


>
>"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:3FA44747.CF96AF6F@cox.net...
>>
>
>Believe me, people don't hop on Jeep if they think it's going over:
>> http://www.----------.com/sidehill.jpg
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:--------------------
>>
>> travis wrote:
>> >
>> > Are you hitting the Vicodin again? Do you not see the guy in the
>> > picture holding the Jeep down? That puppy was going OVER until I
>> > stopped it. Period. If you wanna be an ass about it and try to be
>> > cute, then knock yourself out.
>


--
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Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 

On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 00:24:16 GMT, "D McMorris" <dmcmorris@nc.rr.com>
shared the following:

>Horse Hockey bill,
>
>I've had two different instances at Tellico where people from the crown
>jumped onto the front of my Jeep in order to keep it from rolling. Once on
>Slick Rock and once on School Bus. I'm not saying it's the smart thing for
>them to do, but spectators are ALWAYS wanting in on the action. As an EROCC
>official that's one of my biggest problems, crowd intervention. Adrenalin
>does strange things to some people.
>
>Daren

Thanks, Daren. I can't help getting a little defensive when um...
I WAS THERE and I know what happened and someone tries to say I'm full
of crap. Like I said, I have a witness to the whole thing, too. I
think part of the reason I may be as defensive about this one was that
it was the first time I've ever really gotten SCARED doing this stuff.
I really thought I was gonna break a few bones at a minimum as a
result of this predicament. I never claimed to be a pro at
offroading. I *do* claim that my word is good and if I say that the
damned Jeep was this -----><---- close to rolling over and that it
took everything I had to keep it from doing just that, then that's
EXACTLY what happened. I don't appreciate bill basically calling me a
liar about the whole thing.


>
>"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:3FA44747.CF96AF6F@cox.net...
>>
>
>Believe me, people don't hop on Jeep if they think it's going over:
>> http://www.----------.com/sidehill.jpg
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:--------------------
>>
>> travis wrote:
>> >
>> > Are you hitting the Vicodin again? Do you not see the guy in the
>> > picture holding the Jeep down? That puppy was going OVER until I
>> > stopped it. Period. If you wanna be an ass about it and try to be
>> > cute, then knock yourself out.
>


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Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 

On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 19:35:46 -0500, "Jay Stuler" <no@no.thanks>
shared the following:

>
>"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:b0a8qv4jiu64quafimpuk5f2239n9ektvt@4ax.com.. .
>*snip*
>>
>> Time to put a *REAL* roll bar on my shopping list along with some
>> upgraded seatbelts.
>
>Forgive my ignorance, but what's the difference between a "real" roll bar
>and that one? I assume that one is stock and you don't think it would
>protect as well? What would you replace it with then?
>

I was going to answer this but I see a few others have already jumped
in and answered for me. Thanks, y'all.



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Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 

On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 19:35:46 -0500, "Jay Stuler" <no@no.thanks>
shared the following:

>
>"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:b0a8qv4jiu64quafimpuk5f2239n9ektvt@4ax.com.. .
>*snip*
>>
>> Time to put a *REAL* roll bar on my shopping list along with some
>> upgraded seatbelts.
>
>Forgive my ignorance, but what's the difference between a "real" roll bar
>and that one? I assume that one is stock and you don't think it would
>protect as well? What would you replace it with then?
>

I was going to answer this but I see a few others have already jumped
in and answered for me. Thanks, y'all.



--
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The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
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Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 

On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 19:35:46 -0500, "Jay Stuler" <no@no.thanks>
shared the following:

>
>"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:b0a8qv4jiu64quafimpuk5f2239n9ektvt@4ax.com.. .
>*snip*
>>
>> Time to put a *REAL* roll bar on my shopping list along with some
>> upgraded seatbelts.
>
>Forgive my ignorance, but what's the difference between a "real" roll bar
>and that one? I assume that one is stock and you don't think it would
>protect as well? What would you replace it with then?
>

I was going to answer this but I see a few others have already jumped
in and answered for me. Thanks, y'all.



--
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The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
:wq!