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TJim 11-01-2003 08:39 PM

Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 
Travis,
How did you get your CJ all catty-wompus with those ruts in the first
place???

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"


"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:pgl8qv8f7octio2qpj3j9kd68cdubnf4ie@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 23:40:14 GMT, "Nathan Collier"
> <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> shared the following:
>
> >"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:t0g8qvg6cvqt3d4u3sflgsrtb1bjf2f6pc@4ax.com.. .
> >> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/temp/ohcrap.jpg

> >
> >im somewhat lost here travis. i dont understand why you would be

winching
> >it down the hill?

>
> We winched it sideways to get the back passenger side tire off of the
> wall it was up on, to drop it down more level so that it wouldn't
> roll. Look at the picture. See where the back driver's side tire is?
> Now picture where the back passenger side tire is. It was WAAAY up
> there which is what was causing the Jeep to try to tip over. When we
> winched the rear-end sideways it brought the back passenger side tire
> down so that it was able to be driven down the hill. We both talked
> about it for 3-4 minutes before doing it. It really wasn't that easy
> to keep up the amount of pressure to keep it from rolling over while
> we were talking. We may not have made the best choice, but the choice
> we made to rescue the Jeep worked out GREAT. I'm very happy with the
> outcome of it all. Where do you think we should have winched it from?
> David couldn't get to a point so that he was above me so he had to
> winch from below. If he pulled straight back then the rear tire would
> have climbed higher up on the wall and it would have rolled in a
> heartbeat. Maybe this was one of those "you had to be there" things?
> I feel like y'all just don't quite believe what I explained happened.
> :-/
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!




TJim 11-01-2003 08:41 PM

Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 
ROFLMAO!!

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"


"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:kpm8qvghb9itehue54426287r3h5qpkiqm@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 17:13:58 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@cox.net> shared the following:
>
> > I just deal with facts. Fact, your CJ didn't roll over. Now I would
> >have felt sorry for you if it did, if that's any help. I can see you
> >backed into that position because you allowed your front wheels to lock
> >so you could not follow the rear up the bank to slide her back in, but
> >that'll come with experience.

>
> Yeah. Where were you when I needed you, you old fart? :-)
>
>
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> >travis wrote:
> >>
> >> I was there. You weren't. I didn't lie at all about what happened.
> >> I'm genuinely sad for you if you're too senile to understand that. I
> >> thought my Jeep was going over. I *did* stop it from going over. I
> >> guess I'm just a little tougher that you ever were, Billy. :-) Deal
> >> with it.

>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!




TJim 11-01-2003 08:41 PM

Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 
ROFLMAO!!

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"


"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:kpm8qvghb9itehue54426287r3h5qpkiqm@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 17:13:58 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@cox.net> shared the following:
>
> > I just deal with facts. Fact, your CJ didn't roll over. Now I would
> >have felt sorry for you if it did, if that's any help. I can see you
> >backed into that position because you allowed your front wheels to lock
> >so you could not follow the rear up the bank to slide her back in, but
> >that'll come with experience.

>
> Yeah. Where were you when I needed you, you old fart? :-)
>
>
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> >travis wrote:
> >>
> >> I was there. You weren't. I didn't lie at all about what happened.
> >> I'm genuinely sad for you if you're too senile to understand that. I
> >> thought my Jeep was going over. I *did* stop it from going over. I
> >> guess I'm just a little tougher that you ever were, Billy. :-) Deal
> >> with it.

>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!




TJim 11-01-2003 08:41 PM

Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 
ROFLMAO!!

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"


"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:kpm8qvghb9itehue54426287r3h5qpkiqm@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 17:13:58 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@cox.net> shared the following:
>
> > I just deal with facts. Fact, your CJ didn't roll over. Now I would
> >have felt sorry for you if it did, if that's any help. I can see you
> >backed into that position because you allowed your front wheels to lock
> >so you could not follow the rear up the bank to slide her back in, but
> >that'll come with experience.

>
> Yeah. Where were you when I needed you, you old fart? :-)
>
>
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> >travis wrote:
> >>
> >> I was there. You weren't. I didn't lie at all about what happened.
> >> I'm genuinely sad for you if you're too senile to understand that. I
> >> thought my Jeep was going over. I *did* stop it from going over. I
> >> guess I'm just a little tougher that you ever were, Billy. :-) Deal
> >> with it.

>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!




TJim 11-01-2003 08:47 PM

Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 
....even on flat ground, the "roll" bar folds, the windshield crushes, and
the ground pays you a real "personal visit". If you're going to do this in
the future, have a custom roll cage built. You won't be sorry. (You may be
sorry if you don't)

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"


"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:SmYob.51312$iq3.51219@okepread01...
> Jay Stuler did pass the time by typing:
> > "travis" wrote ...
> > *snip*
> >>
> >> Time to put a *REAL* roll bar on my shopping list along with some
> >> upgraded seatbelts.

> >
> > Forgive my ignorance, but what's the difference between a "real" roll

bar
> > and that one? I assume that one is stock and you don't think it would
> > protect as well? What would you replace it with then?

>
> The one you have might not protect you in a serious rollover.
>
> Take a look at the two ruts you were in. Picture what would happen if the
> rollbar was to go in one rut and the windshield, the other. That big hump
> of dirt is going to be paying you a real personal visit.
>
> Here are some links.
> http://www.sierrajeep.com/fullcage.htm
> http://linux.lgi.com/~shouston/roll_cage.html
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/products/orfab/index2.html
> http://www.chad-adams.com/rollcage.htm
>
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
>
>




TJim 11-01-2003 08:47 PM

Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 
....even on flat ground, the "roll" bar folds, the windshield crushes, and
the ground pays you a real "personal visit". If you're going to do this in
the future, have a custom roll cage built. You won't be sorry. (You may be
sorry if you don't)

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"


"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:SmYob.51312$iq3.51219@okepread01...
> Jay Stuler did pass the time by typing:
> > "travis" wrote ...
> > *snip*
> >>
> >> Time to put a *REAL* roll bar on my shopping list along with some
> >> upgraded seatbelts.

> >
> > Forgive my ignorance, but what's the difference between a "real" roll

bar
> > and that one? I assume that one is stock and you don't think it would
> > protect as well? What would you replace it with then?

>
> The one you have might not protect you in a serious rollover.
>
> Take a look at the two ruts you were in. Picture what would happen if the
> rollbar was to go in one rut and the windshield, the other. That big hump
> of dirt is going to be paying you a real personal visit.
>
> Here are some links.
> http://www.sierrajeep.com/fullcage.htm
> http://linux.lgi.com/~shouston/roll_cage.html
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/products/orfab/index2.html
> http://www.chad-adams.com/rollcage.htm
>
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
>
>




TJim 11-01-2003 08:47 PM

Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 
....even on flat ground, the "roll" bar folds, the windshield crushes, and
the ground pays you a real "personal visit". If you're going to do this in
the future, have a custom roll cage built. You won't be sorry. (You may be
sorry if you don't)

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"


"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:SmYob.51312$iq3.51219@okepread01...
> Jay Stuler did pass the time by typing:
> > "travis" wrote ...
> > *snip*
> >>
> >> Time to put a *REAL* roll bar on my shopping list along with some
> >> upgraded seatbelts.

> >
> > Forgive my ignorance, but what's the difference between a "real" roll

bar
> > and that one? I assume that one is stock and you don't think it would
> > protect as well? What would you replace it with then?

>
> The one you have might not protect you in a serious rollover.
>
> Take a look at the two ruts you were in. Picture what would happen if the
> rollbar was to go in one rut and the windshield, the other. That big hump
> of dirt is going to be paying you a real personal visit.
>
> Here are some links.
> http://www.sierrajeep.com/fullcage.htm
> http://linux.lgi.com/~shouston/roll_cage.html
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/products/orfab/index2.html
> http://www.chad-adams.com/rollcage.htm
>
>
> --
> -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.cox.net/wilsond
> HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
> Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
>
>




Gerald G. McGeorge 11-01-2003 08:51 PM

Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 
Wait a minute, as defined by Bill, "Real Jeeps" don't have roll bars, do
they?


"Jay Stuler" <no@no.thanks> wrote in message
news:bo1jb9$eu0$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
>
> "travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:b0a8qv4jiu64quafimpuk5f2239n9ektvt@4ax.com...
> *snip*
> >
> > Time to put a *REAL* roll bar on my shopping list along with some
> > upgraded seatbelts.

>
> Forgive my ignorance, but what's the difference between a "real" roll bar
> and that one? I assume that one is stock and you don't think it would
> protect as well? What would you replace it with then?
>
>




Gerald G. McGeorge 11-01-2003 08:51 PM

Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 
Wait a minute, as defined by Bill, "Real Jeeps" don't have roll bars, do
they?


"Jay Stuler" <no@no.thanks> wrote in message
news:bo1jb9$eu0$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
>
> "travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:b0a8qv4jiu64quafimpuk5f2239n9ektvt@4ax.com...
> *snip*
> >
> > Time to put a *REAL* roll bar on my shopping list along with some
> > upgraded seatbelts.

>
> Forgive my ignorance, but what's the difference between a "real" roll bar
> and that one? I assume that one is stock and you don't think it would
> protect as well? What would you replace it with then?
>
>




Gerald G. McGeorge 11-01-2003 08:51 PM

Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 
Wait a minute, as defined by Bill, "Real Jeeps" don't have roll bars, do
they?


"Jay Stuler" <no@no.thanks> wrote in message
news:bo1jb9$eu0$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
>
> "travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:b0a8qv4jiu64quafimpuk5f2239n9ektvt@4ax.com...
> *snip*
> >
> > Time to put a *REAL* roll bar on my shopping list along with some
> > upgraded seatbelts.

>
> Forgive my ignorance, but what's the difference between a "real" roll bar
> and that one? I assume that one is stock and you don't think it would
> protect as well? What would you replace it with then?
>
>





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