Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 

Travis,

Your website says you are from Raleigh. I live in Raleigh and Jeep all the
time. Just moved here earlier this year and am looking for people to wheel
with. I put on 5 rides this year. Reply if you are interested.
dmcmorris(at)nr.rr.com

Daren

"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:b0a8qv4jiu64quafimpuk5f2239n9ektvt@4ax.com...
> ...I did it anyway and it kept my CJ5 from rolling over today. I was
> climbing a hill while my friend watched from below in the safety of
> his CJ8... I made it about 80% of the way to the top when things
> started to go wrong. I wound up getting partially sideways when the
> Jeep began to tilt... BADLY. It was leaning WAAAY over to the
> left...the driver's side. My side. I felt it begin to totter...
> Seemed like time was almost standing still. I looked down and saw
> David staring back up with an "OH SH*T" look on his face. I saw the
> ground rising up to meet me and realized that this was it. It was
> going over and I was up high enough that if it went over, it would
> roll several times before reaching the bottom of the hill. I had my
> seatbelt on (just a lap belt) and started to lean forward some and
> grab the steering wheel as hard as I could to keep from getting
> slammed around when it rolled. This was all happening so slowly. I
> looked to the left again and the ground was getting closer and closer
> to me. I was passed the teeter-totter point... closer and closer the
> ground came to me when I realized that if I stuck my left leg outside
> of the Jeep (this was the part I said was probably not a good idea...)
> that I could actually put my foot on the ground... Now from the time
> I started to slide sideways up until this point had taken about one
> second probably. I was going over fast. I jammed my left leg out and
> my ultra-cool Chuck Taylors grabbed for traction in the muddy hill!!!
> And caught traction, too! I quickly stuck my right leg outside, too!
> UUUUUUUUUGGGGHHHH..... the Jeep continued its sideways listing, as
> both of my Chuck Taylors continued to dig deeper...I felt resistance
> on my waist as the weight of the Jeep was now starting to transfer to
> the seatbelt...my legs bent....bent more....trembled...and then began
> to straighten! SWEET!!! I was doing it! I got the Jeep back to the
> teeter-totter point, but it would go no further. The front passenger
> tire was WAAY up in the air and the back passenger tire was kinda up
> on a wall on the side of the hill. It was that back tire being up
> there that brought me to the teeter-totter point. My friend David ran
> up and got on top of the front bumper on the passenger side to help
> keep it upright. I snapped a picture (that I'll post later) and then
> ran around to hold my precious CJ by the front bumper to keep it from
> crashing to the bottom of the hill below. David ran back to his CJ8
> and repositioned it so that it was at an angle to mine and quickly
> hooked his winch up to my left rear bumper. The idea was to pull my
> Jeep sideways in the back to get that back passenger side tire off of
> the wall so that it would right the Jeep. His Warn 9000 began
> furiously winding in...until the line was taut...then he slowly bumped
> the winch with the remote just a hair at a time...My Jeep did exactly
> what we were hoping it would...the rear passenger tire started to
> slide down off of the wall thingie...just to the right point...then I
> let go of the bumper and jumped into the driver's seat! I'd put the
> parking brake on and left it in first gear during the winch pull
> because I was afraid he'd get the Jeep righted and then it'd roll
> backwards down the hill. I put it in reverse and let off the parking
> brake...hit the starter and it fired up and putted back down the hill
> in reverse. In perfect control. WOOT WOOT!!!!! Disaster averted!!!
> Time to put a *REAL* roll bar on my shopping list along with some
> upgraded seatbelts. I got about 10 pictures of this outing, mostly of
> my friend's CJ8. I'll post them to my website soon and send out a
> pointer. WHEW! I'm ready to sit down and have an ice cold beer after
> that one. :-D
>
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!

Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 

Travis,

Your website says you are from Raleigh. I live in Raleigh and Jeep all the
time. Just moved here earlier this year and am looking for people to wheel
with. I put on 5 rides this year. Reply if you are interested.
dmcmorris(at)nr.rr.com

Daren

"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:b0a8qv4jiu64quafimpuk5f2239n9ektvt@4ax.com...
> ...I did it anyway and it kept my CJ5 from rolling over today. I was
> climbing a hill while my friend watched from below in the safety of
> his CJ8... I made it about 80% of the way to the top when things
> started to go wrong. I wound up getting partially sideways when the
> Jeep began to tilt... BADLY. It was leaning WAAAY over to the
> left...the driver's side. My side. I felt it begin to totter...
> Seemed like time was almost standing still. I looked down and saw
> David staring back up with an "OH SH*T" look on his face. I saw the
> ground rising up to meet me and realized that this was it. It was
> going over and I was up high enough that if it went over, it would
> roll several times before reaching the bottom of the hill. I had my
> seatbelt on (just a lap belt) and started to lean forward some and
> grab the steering wheel as hard as I could to keep from getting
> slammed around when it rolled. This was all happening so slowly. I
> looked to the left again and the ground was getting closer and closer
> to me. I was passed the teeter-totter point... closer and closer the
> ground came to me when I realized that if I stuck my left leg outside
> of the Jeep (this was the part I said was probably not a good idea...)
> that I could actually put my foot on the ground... Now from the time
> I started to slide sideways up until this point had taken about one
> second probably. I was going over fast. I jammed my left leg out and
> my ultra-cool Chuck Taylors grabbed for traction in the muddy hill!!!
> And caught traction, too! I quickly stuck my right leg outside, too!
> UUUUUUUUUGGGGHHHH..... the Jeep continued its sideways listing, as
> both of my Chuck Taylors continued to dig deeper...I felt resistance
> on my waist as the weight of the Jeep was now starting to transfer to
> the seatbelt...my legs bent....bent more....trembled...and then began
> to straighten! SWEET!!! I was doing it! I got the Jeep back to the
> teeter-totter point, but it would go no further. The front passenger
> tire was WAAY up in the air and the back passenger tire was kinda up
> on a wall on the side of the hill. It was that back tire being up
> there that brought me to the teeter-totter point. My friend David ran
> up and got on top of the front bumper on the passenger side to help
> keep it upright. I snapped a picture (that I'll post later) and then
> ran around to hold my precious CJ by the front bumper to keep it from
> crashing to the bottom of the hill below. David ran back to his CJ8
> and repositioned it so that it was at an angle to mine and quickly
> hooked his winch up to my left rear bumper. The idea was to pull my
> Jeep sideways in the back to get that back passenger side tire off of
> the wall so that it would right the Jeep. His Warn 9000 began
> furiously winding in...until the line was taut...then he slowly bumped
> the winch with the remote just a hair at a time...My Jeep did exactly
> what we were hoping it would...the rear passenger tire started to
> slide down off of the wall thingie...just to the right point...then I
> let go of the bumper and jumped into the driver's seat! I'd put the
> parking brake on and left it in first gear during the winch pull
> because I was afraid he'd get the Jeep righted and then it'd roll
> backwards down the hill. I put it in reverse and let off the parking
> brake...hit the starter and it fired up and putted back down the hill
> in reverse. In perfect control. WOOT WOOT!!!!! Disaster averted!!!
> Time to put a *REAL* roll bar on my shopping list along with some
> upgraded seatbelts. I got about 10 pictures of this outing, mostly of
> my friend's CJ8. I'll post them to my website soon and send out a
> pointer. WHEW! I'm ready to sit down and have an ice cold beer after
> that one. :-D
>
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!

Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 

Hope you ran out and bought a lottery ticket while you still have the
whole damn horse up your butt, forget just the horseshoes up there...

The last guy I know that tried to stop his vehicle with his leg ended up
with his thigh bone sticking out near his ribs and minus one hip.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

travis wrote:
>
> ...I did it anyway and it kept my CJ5 from rolling over today. I was
> climbing a hill while my friend watched from below in the safety of
> his CJ8... I made it about 80% of the way to the top when things
> started to go wrong. I wound up getting partially sideways when the
> Jeep began to tilt... BADLY. It was leaning WAAAY over to the
> left...the driver's side. My side. I felt it begin to totter...
> Seemed like time was almost standing still. I looked down and saw
> David staring back up with an "OH SH*T" look on his face. I saw the
> ground rising up to meet me and realized that this was it. It was
> going over and I was up high enough that if it went over, it would
> roll several times before reaching the bottom of the hill. I had my
> seatbelt on (just a lap belt) and started to lean forward some and
> grab the steering wheel as hard as I could to keep from getting
> slammed around when it rolled. This was all happening so slowly. I
> looked to the left again and the ground was getting closer and closer
> to me. I was passed the teeter-totter point... closer and closer the
> ground came to me when I realized that if I stuck my left leg outside
> of the Jeep (this was the part I said was probably not a good idea...)
> that I could actually put my foot on the ground... Now from the time
> I started to slide sideways up until this point had taken about one
> second probably. I was going over fast. I jammed my left leg out and
> my ultra-cool Chuck Taylors grabbed for traction in the muddy hill!!!
> And caught traction, too! I quickly stuck my right leg outside, too!
> UUUUUUUUUGGGGHHHH..... the Jeep continued its sideways listing, as
> both of my Chuck Taylors continued to dig deeper...I felt resistance
> on my waist as the weight of the Jeep was now starting to transfer to
> the seatbelt...my legs bent....bent more....trembled...and then began
> to straighten! SWEET!!! I was doing it! I got the Jeep back to the
> teeter-totter point, but it would go no further. The front passenger
> tire was WAAY up in the air and the back passenger tire was kinda up
> on a wall on the side of the hill. It was that back tire being up
> there that brought me to the teeter-totter point. My friend David ran
> up and got on top of the front bumper on the passenger side to help
> keep it upright. I snapped a picture (that I'll post later) and then
> ran around to hold my precious CJ by the front bumper to keep it from
> crashing to the bottom of the hill below. David ran back to his CJ8
> and repositioned it so that it was at an angle to mine and quickly
> hooked his winch up to my left rear bumper. The idea was to pull my
> Jeep sideways in the back to get that back passenger side tire off of
> the wall so that it would right the Jeep. His Warn 9000 began
> furiously winding in...until the line was taut...then he slowly bumped
> the winch with the remote just a hair at a time...My Jeep did exactly
> what we were hoping it would...the rear passenger tire started to
> slide down off of the wall thingie...just to the right point...then I
> let go of the bumper and jumped into the driver's seat! I'd put the
> parking brake on and left it in first gear during the winch pull
> because I was afraid he'd get the Jeep righted and then it'd roll
> backwards down the hill. I put it in reverse and let off the parking
> brake...hit the starter and it fired up and putted back down the hill
> in reverse. In perfect control. WOOT WOOT!!!!! Disaster averted!!!
> Time to put a *REAL* roll bar on my shopping list along with some
> upgraded seatbelts. I got about 10 pictures of this outing, mostly of
> my friend's CJ8. I'll post them to my website soon and send out a
> pointer. WHEW! I'm ready to sit down and have an ice cold beer after
> that one. :-D
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!

Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 

Hope you ran out and bought a lottery ticket while you still have the
whole damn horse up your butt, forget just the horseshoes up there...

The last guy I know that tried to stop his vehicle with his leg ended up
with his thigh bone sticking out near his ribs and minus one hip.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

travis wrote:
>
> ...I did it anyway and it kept my CJ5 from rolling over today. I was
> climbing a hill while my friend watched from below in the safety of
> his CJ8... I made it about 80% of the way to the top when things
> started to go wrong. I wound up getting partially sideways when the
> Jeep began to tilt... BADLY. It was leaning WAAAY over to the
> left...the driver's side. My side. I felt it begin to totter...
> Seemed like time was almost standing still. I looked down and saw
> David staring back up with an "OH SH*T" look on his face. I saw the
> ground rising up to meet me and realized that this was it. It was
> going over and I was up high enough that if it went over, it would
> roll several times before reaching the bottom of the hill. I had my
> seatbelt on (just a lap belt) and started to lean forward some and
> grab the steering wheel as hard as I could to keep from getting
> slammed around when it rolled. This was all happening so slowly. I
> looked to the left again and the ground was getting closer and closer
> to me. I was passed the teeter-totter point... closer and closer the
> ground came to me when I realized that if I stuck my left leg outside
> of the Jeep (this was the part I said was probably not a good idea...)
> that I could actually put my foot on the ground... Now from the time
> I started to slide sideways up until this point had taken about one
> second probably. I was going over fast. I jammed my left leg out and
> my ultra-cool Chuck Taylors grabbed for traction in the muddy hill!!!
> And caught traction, too! I quickly stuck my right leg outside, too!
> UUUUUUUUUGGGGHHHH..... the Jeep continued its sideways listing, as
> both of my Chuck Taylors continued to dig deeper...I felt resistance
> on my waist as the weight of the Jeep was now starting to transfer to
> the seatbelt...my legs bent....bent more....trembled...and then began
> to straighten! SWEET!!! I was doing it! I got the Jeep back to the
> teeter-totter point, but it would go no further. The front passenger
> tire was WAAY up in the air and the back passenger tire was kinda up
> on a wall on the side of the hill. It was that back tire being up
> there that brought me to the teeter-totter point. My friend David ran
> up and got on top of the front bumper on the passenger side to help
> keep it upright. I snapped a picture (that I'll post later) and then
> ran around to hold my precious CJ by the front bumper to keep it from
> crashing to the bottom of the hill below. David ran back to his CJ8
> and repositioned it so that it was at an angle to mine and quickly
> hooked his winch up to my left rear bumper. The idea was to pull my
> Jeep sideways in the back to get that back passenger side tire off of
> the wall so that it would right the Jeep. His Warn 9000 began
> furiously winding in...until the line was taut...then he slowly bumped
> the winch with the remote just a hair at a time...My Jeep did exactly
> what we were hoping it would...the rear passenger tire started to
> slide down off of the wall thingie...just to the right point...then I
> let go of the bumper and jumped into the driver's seat! I'd put the
> parking brake on and left it in first gear during the winch pull
> because I was afraid he'd get the Jeep righted and then it'd roll
> backwards down the hill. I put it in reverse and let off the parking
> brake...hit the starter and it fired up and putted back down the hill
> in reverse. In perfect control. WOOT WOOT!!!!! Disaster averted!!!
> Time to put a *REAL* roll bar on my shopping list along with some
> upgraded seatbelts. I got about 10 pictures of this outing, mostly of
> my friend's CJ8. I'll post them to my website soon and send out a
> pointer. WHEW! I'm ready to sit down and have an ice cold beer after
> that one. :-D
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!

Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 

Hope you ran out and bought a lottery ticket while you still have the
whole damn horse up your butt, forget just the horseshoes up there...

The last guy I know that tried to stop his vehicle with his leg ended up
with his thigh bone sticking out near his ribs and minus one hip.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

travis wrote:
>
> ...I did it anyway and it kept my CJ5 from rolling over today. I was
> climbing a hill while my friend watched from below in the safety of
> his CJ8... I made it about 80% of the way to the top when things
> started to go wrong. I wound up getting partially sideways when the
> Jeep began to tilt... BADLY. It was leaning WAAAY over to the
> left...the driver's side. My side. I felt it begin to totter...
> Seemed like time was almost standing still. I looked down and saw
> David staring back up with an "OH SH*T" look on his face. I saw the
> ground rising up to meet me and realized that this was it. It was
> going over and I was up high enough that if it went over, it would
> roll several times before reaching the bottom of the hill. I had my
> seatbelt on (just a lap belt) and started to lean forward some and
> grab the steering wheel as hard as I could to keep from getting
> slammed around when it rolled. This was all happening so slowly. I
> looked to the left again and the ground was getting closer and closer
> to me. I was passed the teeter-totter point... closer and closer the
> ground came to me when I realized that if I stuck my left leg outside
> of the Jeep (this was the part I said was probably not a good idea...)
> that I could actually put my foot on the ground... Now from the time
> I started to slide sideways up until this point had taken about one
> second probably. I was going over fast. I jammed my left leg out and
> my ultra-cool Chuck Taylors grabbed for traction in the muddy hill!!!
> And caught traction, too! I quickly stuck my right leg outside, too!
> UUUUUUUUUGGGGHHHH..... the Jeep continued its sideways listing, as
> both of my Chuck Taylors continued to dig deeper...I felt resistance
> on my waist as the weight of the Jeep was now starting to transfer to
> the seatbelt...my legs bent....bent more....trembled...and then began
> to straighten! SWEET!!! I was doing it! I got the Jeep back to the
> teeter-totter point, but it would go no further. The front passenger
> tire was WAAY up in the air and the back passenger tire was kinda up
> on a wall on the side of the hill. It was that back tire being up
> there that brought me to the teeter-totter point. My friend David ran
> up and got on top of the front bumper on the passenger side to help
> keep it upright. I snapped a picture (that I'll post later) and then
> ran around to hold my precious CJ by the front bumper to keep it from
> crashing to the bottom of the hill below. David ran back to his CJ8
> and repositioned it so that it was at an angle to mine and quickly
> hooked his winch up to my left rear bumper. The idea was to pull my
> Jeep sideways in the back to get that back passenger side tire off of
> the wall so that it would right the Jeep. His Warn 9000 began
> furiously winding in...until the line was taut...then he slowly bumped
> the winch with the remote just a hair at a time...My Jeep did exactly
> what we were hoping it would...the rear passenger tire started to
> slide down off of the wall thingie...just to the right point...then I
> let go of the bumper and jumped into the driver's seat! I'd put the
> parking brake on and left it in first gear during the winch pull
> because I was afraid he'd get the Jeep righted and then it'd roll
> backwards down the hill. I put it in reverse and let off the parking
> brake...hit the starter and it fired up and putted back down the hill
> in reverse. In perfect control. WOOT WOOT!!!!! Disaster averted!!!
> Time to put a *REAL* roll bar on my shopping list along with some
> upgraded seatbelts. I got about 10 pictures of this outing, mostly of
> my friend's CJ8. I'll post them to my website soon and send out a
> pointer. WHEW! I'm ready to sit down and have an ice cold beer after
> that one. :-D
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!

Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 

> That doesn't sound fun. How did you resolve it?<

I still had a wee bit of rear brakes and the emergency. Drove down at a
crawl, approached the next 11 switchbacks with the emergency holding the
rears and three pointing it around. It was not the time to panic. The next
time I drove Black Bear I nearly had a stroke realizing what could have
happened. NOT a place to be afraid of heights and weak of brakes.

Took awhile to determine why the front line broke. At the time we thought it
had snagged on a lug of the tire so we re-routed them. However, turned out
they were hitting the shocks at full lock when the suspension was heavily
flexed and going downhill, eventually snapping off at the banjo. (Lost
another one last year in Moab on 7 Mile Rim....had a spare.) They've since
been re-routed out the top of the caliper and will soon be further
restrained away from the tires with some springs.

Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 

> That doesn't sound fun. How did you resolve it?<

I still had a wee bit of rear brakes and the emergency. Drove down at a
crawl, approached the next 11 switchbacks with the emergency holding the
rears and three pointing it around. It was not the time to panic. The next
time I drove Black Bear I nearly had a stroke realizing what could have
happened. NOT a place to be afraid of heights and weak of brakes.

Took awhile to determine why the front line broke. At the time we thought it
had snagged on a lug of the tire so we re-routed them. However, turned out
they were hitting the shocks at full lock when the suspension was heavily
flexed and going downhill, eventually snapping off at the banjo. (Lost
another one last year in Moab on 7 Mile Rim....had a spare.) They've since
been re-routed out the top of the caliper and will soon be further
restrained away from the tires with some springs.

Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 

> That doesn't sound fun. How did you resolve it?<

I still had a wee bit of rear brakes and the emergency. Drove down at a
crawl, approached the next 11 switchbacks with the emergency holding the
rears and three pointing it around. It was not the time to panic. The next
time I drove Black Bear I nearly had a stroke realizing what could have
happened. NOT a place to be afraid of heights and weak of brakes.

Took awhile to determine why the front line broke. At the time we thought it
had snagged on a lug of the tire so we re-routed them. However, turned out
they were hitting the shocks at full lock when the suspension was heavily
flexed and going downhill, eventually snapping off at the banjo. (Lost
another one last year in Moab on 7 Mile Rim....had a spare.) They've since
been re-routed out the top of the caliper and will soon be further
restrained away from the tires with some springs.

Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 

> I guess every CJ built since the mid-70's ain't a real jeep....>>

Now you're catching on! ;-)

Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 

> I guess every CJ built since the mid-70's ain't a real jeep....>>

Now you're catching on! ;-)