Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 

About ninety percent of the time, I'll get away with, if it's clear
of rocks or an ever worse cliff, I'll go ahead and turn in the direction
of the sliding front end, power on and spin it around, headed down hill.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

travis wrote:
>
> Well... I don't intend to, but I didn't mean to do it today either.
> :-/
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!

Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 

About ninety percent of the time, I'll get away with, if it's clear
of rocks or an ever worse cliff, I'll go ahead and turn in the direction
of the sliding front end, power on and spin it around, headed down hill.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

travis wrote:
>
> Well... I don't intend to, but I didn't mean to do it today either.
> :-/
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!

Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 

About ninety percent of the time, I'll get away with, if it's clear
of rocks or an ever worse cliff, I'll go ahead and turn in the direction
of the sliding front end, power on and spin it around, headed down hill.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

travis wrote:
>
> Well... I don't intend to, but I didn't mean to do it today either.
> :-/
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!

Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 

Thank God it didn't decide to begin the roll downhill with both of your
legs outside. You would have been doing a different kind of wheeling in
the future. Wheelchair. You just got confirmation of the first rule of
offroading-never wheel alone. Glad it came out the way it did. Look
forward to the pics.

travis wrote:

> ...I did it anyway and it kept my CJ5 from rolling over today. I was
> climbing a hill while my friend watched from below in the safety of
> his CJ8... I made it about 80% of the way to the top when things
> started to go wrong. I wound up getting partially sideways when the
> Jeep began to tilt... BADLY. It was leaning WAAAY over to the
> left...the driver's side. My side. I felt it begin to totter...
> Seemed like time was almost standing still. I looked down and saw
> David staring back up with an "OH SH*T" look on his face. I saw the
> ground rising up to meet me and realized that this was it. It was
> going over and I was up high enough that if it went over, it would
> roll several times before reaching the bottom of the hill. I had my
> seatbelt on (just a lap belt) and started to lean forward some and
> grab the steering wheel as hard as I could to keep from getting
> slammed around when it rolled. This was all happening so slowly. I
> looked to the left again and the ground was getting closer and closer
> to me. I was passed the teeter-totter point... closer and closer the
> ground came to me when I realized that if I stuck my left leg outside
> of the Jeep (this was the part I said was probably not a good idea...)
> that I could actually put my foot on the ground... Now from the time
> I started to slide sideways up until this point had taken about one
> second probably. I was going over fast. I jammed my left leg out and
> my ultra-cool Chuck Taylors grabbed for traction in the muddy hill!!!
> And caught traction, too! I quickly stuck my right leg outside, too!
> UUUUUUUUUGGGGHHHH..... the Jeep continued its sideways listing, as
> both of my Chuck Taylors continued to dig deeper...I felt resistance
> on my waist as the weight of the Jeep was now starting to transfer to
> the seatbelt...my legs bent....bent more....trembled...and then began
> to straighten! SWEET!!! I was doing it! I got the Jeep back to the
> teeter-totter point, but it would go no further. The front passenger
> tire was WAAY up in the air and the back passenger tire was kinda up
> on a wall on the side of the hill. It was that back tire being up
> there that brought me to the teeter-totter point. My friend David ran
> up and got on top of the front bumper on the passenger side to help
> keep it upright. I snapped a picture (that I'll post later) and then
> ran around to hold my precious CJ by the front bumper to keep it from
> crashing to the bottom of the hill below. David ran back to his CJ8
> and repositioned it so that it was at an angle to mine and quickly
> hooked his winch up to my left rear bumper. The idea was to pull my
> Jeep sideways in the back to get that back passenger side tire off of
> the wall so that it would right the Jeep. His Warn 9000 began
> furiously winding in...until the line was taut...then he slowly bumped
> the winch with the remote just a hair at a time...My Jeep did exactly
> what we were hoping it would...the rear passenger tire started to
> slide down off of the wall thingie...just to the right point...then I
> let go of the bumper and jumped into the driver's seat! I'd put the
> parking brake on and left it in first gear during the winch pull
> because I was afraid he'd get the Jeep righted and then it'd roll
> backwards down the hill. I put it in reverse and let off the parking
> brake...hit the starter and it fired up and putted back down the hill
> in reverse. In perfect control. WOOT WOOT!!!!! Disaster averted!!!
> Time to put a *REAL* roll bar on my shopping list along with some
> upgraded seatbelts. I got about 10 pictures of this outing, mostly of
> my friend's CJ8. I'll post them to my website soon and send out a
> pointer. WHEW! I'm ready to sit down and have an ice cold beer after
> that one. :-D
>
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 

Thank God it didn't decide to begin the roll downhill with both of your
legs outside. You would have been doing a different kind of wheeling in
the future. Wheelchair. You just got confirmation of the first rule of
offroading-never wheel alone. Glad it came out the way it did. Look
forward to the pics.

travis wrote:

> ...I did it anyway and it kept my CJ5 from rolling over today. I was
> climbing a hill while my friend watched from below in the safety of
> his CJ8... I made it about 80% of the way to the top when things
> started to go wrong. I wound up getting partially sideways when the
> Jeep began to tilt... BADLY. It was leaning WAAAY over to the
> left...the driver's side. My side. I felt it begin to totter...
> Seemed like time was almost standing still. I looked down and saw
> David staring back up with an "OH SH*T" look on his face. I saw the
> ground rising up to meet me and realized that this was it. It was
> going over and I was up high enough that if it went over, it would
> roll several times before reaching the bottom of the hill. I had my
> seatbelt on (just a lap belt) and started to lean forward some and
> grab the steering wheel as hard as I could to keep from getting
> slammed around when it rolled. This was all happening so slowly. I
> looked to the left again and the ground was getting closer and closer
> to me. I was passed the teeter-totter point... closer and closer the
> ground came to me when I realized that if I stuck my left leg outside
> of the Jeep (this was the part I said was probably not a good idea...)
> that I could actually put my foot on the ground... Now from the time
> I started to slide sideways up until this point had taken about one
> second probably. I was going over fast. I jammed my left leg out and
> my ultra-cool Chuck Taylors grabbed for traction in the muddy hill!!!
> And caught traction, too! I quickly stuck my right leg outside, too!
> UUUUUUUUUGGGGHHHH..... the Jeep continued its sideways listing, as
> both of my Chuck Taylors continued to dig deeper...I felt resistance
> on my waist as the weight of the Jeep was now starting to transfer to
> the seatbelt...my legs bent....bent more....trembled...and then began
> to straighten! SWEET!!! I was doing it! I got the Jeep back to the
> teeter-totter point, but it would go no further. The front passenger
> tire was WAAY up in the air and the back passenger tire was kinda up
> on a wall on the side of the hill. It was that back tire being up
> there that brought me to the teeter-totter point. My friend David ran
> up and got on top of the front bumper on the passenger side to help
> keep it upright. I snapped a picture (that I'll post later) and then
> ran around to hold my precious CJ by the front bumper to keep it from
> crashing to the bottom of the hill below. David ran back to his CJ8
> and repositioned it so that it was at an angle to mine and quickly
> hooked his winch up to my left rear bumper. The idea was to pull my
> Jeep sideways in the back to get that back passenger side tire off of
> the wall so that it would right the Jeep. His Warn 9000 began
> furiously winding in...until the line was taut...then he slowly bumped
> the winch with the remote just a hair at a time...My Jeep did exactly
> what we were hoping it would...the rear passenger tire started to
> slide down off of the wall thingie...just to the right point...then I
> let go of the bumper and jumped into the driver's seat! I'd put the
> parking brake on and left it in first gear during the winch pull
> because I was afraid he'd get the Jeep righted and then it'd roll
> backwards down the hill. I put it in reverse and let off the parking
> brake...hit the starter and it fired up and putted back down the hill
> in reverse. In perfect control. WOOT WOOT!!!!! Disaster averted!!!
> Time to put a *REAL* roll bar on my shopping list along with some
> upgraded seatbelts. I got about 10 pictures of this outing, mostly of
> my friend's CJ8. I'll post them to my website soon and send out a
> pointer. WHEW! I'm ready to sit down and have an ice cold beer after
> that one. :-D
>
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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__________________________________________________ _________

Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 

Thank God it didn't decide to begin the roll downhill with both of your
legs outside. You would have been doing a different kind of wheeling in
the future. Wheelchair. You just got confirmation of the first rule of
offroading-never wheel alone. Glad it came out the way it did. Look
forward to the pics.

travis wrote:

> ...I did it anyway and it kept my CJ5 from rolling over today. I was
> climbing a hill while my friend watched from below in the safety of
> his CJ8... I made it about 80% of the way to the top when things
> started to go wrong. I wound up getting partially sideways when the
> Jeep began to tilt... BADLY. It was leaning WAAAY over to the
> left...the driver's side. My side. I felt it begin to totter...
> Seemed like time was almost standing still. I looked down and saw
> David staring back up with an "OH SH*T" look on his face. I saw the
> ground rising up to meet me and realized that this was it. It was
> going over and I was up high enough that if it went over, it would
> roll several times before reaching the bottom of the hill. I had my
> seatbelt on (just a lap belt) and started to lean forward some and
> grab the steering wheel as hard as I could to keep from getting
> slammed around when it rolled. This was all happening so slowly. I
> looked to the left again and the ground was getting closer and closer
> to me. I was passed the teeter-totter point... closer and closer the
> ground came to me when I realized that if I stuck my left leg outside
> of the Jeep (this was the part I said was probably not a good idea...)
> that I could actually put my foot on the ground... Now from the time
> I started to slide sideways up until this point had taken about one
> second probably. I was going over fast. I jammed my left leg out and
> my ultra-cool Chuck Taylors grabbed for traction in the muddy hill!!!
> And caught traction, too! I quickly stuck my right leg outside, too!
> UUUUUUUUUGGGGHHHH..... the Jeep continued its sideways listing, as
> both of my Chuck Taylors continued to dig deeper...I felt resistance
> on my waist as the weight of the Jeep was now starting to transfer to
> the seatbelt...my legs bent....bent more....trembled...and then began
> to straighten! SWEET!!! I was doing it! I got the Jeep back to the
> teeter-totter point, but it would go no further. The front passenger
> tire was WAAY up in the air and the back passenger tire was kinda up
> on a wall on the side of the hill. It was that back tire being up
> there that brought me to the teeter-totter point. My friend David ran
> up and got on top of the front bumper on the passenger side to help
> keep it upright. I snapped a picture (that I'll post later) and then
> ran around to hold my precious CJ by the front bumper to keep it from
> crashing to the bottom of the hill below. David ran back to his CJ8
> and repositioned it so that it was at an angle to mine and quickly
> hooked his winch up to my left rear bumper. The idea was to pull my
> Jeep sideways in the back to get that back passenger side tire off of
> the wall so that it would right the Jeep. His Warn 9000 began
> furiously winding in...until the line was taut...then he slowly bumped
> the winch with the remote just a hair at a time...My Jeep did exactly
> what we were hoping it would...the rear passenger tire started to
> slide down off of the wall thingie...just to the right point...then I
> let go of the bumper and jumped into the driver's seat! I'd put the
> parking brake on and left it in first gear during the winch pull
> because I was afraid he'd get the Jeep righted and then it'd roll
> backwards down the hill. I put it in reverse and let off the parking
> brake...hit the starter and it fired up and putted back down the hill
> in reverse. In perfect control. WOOT WOOT!!!!! Disaster averted!!!
> Time to put a *REAL* roll bar on my shopping list along with some
> upgraded seatbelts. I got about 10 pictures of this outing, mostly of
> my friend's CJ8. I'll post them to my website soon and send out a
> pointer. WHEW! I'm ready to sit down and have an ice cold beer after
> that one. :-D
>
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 

On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 14:36:45 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> shared the following:

>Hi Sandman,
> Agreed. It is a natural, instinctive thing to do, and it hard to
>refrain from doing, but virtually everyone that has, has wound up with a
>bone stick out as in compound fracture. Think about it, there is no way
>you may touch the ground on the down hill side, until well after the
>fact.

What do you mean there is no way you can touch the ground on the
downhill side? I have a witness. It happened exactly the way I
described it. That Jeep was going, OVER. It was tilting a LOT when I
put my feet to the ground, but I did put my feet on the ground while
still strapped into my seatbelt. It was scary as hell. I ain't
makin' this up.

>I believe Travis' slow motion memory is exaggerating a bit.

Sorry, but it's not exaggerating at all... Proof:
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/temp/ohcrap.jpg
See the ruts and how my tires were in them and high center? It's very
obvious that my feet could hit the ground in that picture. Look at
the passenger front fender. That's my friend David holding down that
side to keep the Jeep from rolling over. Hey, you can even see where
my feet were when I was still strapped in. See the gouges in the dirt
next to the driver's seat? Hell, that picture makes it look like a
Sunday drive. The angles never show up well on film. When you drive
like I do, there's no need to exaggerate. Werd. To yer mutha. ;-)



--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
:wq!

Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 

On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 14:36:45 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> shared the following:

>Hi Sandman,
> Agreed. It is a natural, instinctive thing to do, and it hard to
>refrain from doing, but virtually everyone that has, has wound up with a
>bone stick out as in compound fracture. Think about it, there is no way
>you may touch the ground on the down hill side, until well after the
>fact.

What do you mean there is no way you can touch the ground on the
downhill side? I have a witness. It happened exactly the way I
described it. That Jeep was going, OVER. It was tilting a LOT when I
put my feet to the ground, but I did put my feet on the ground while
still strapped into my seatbelt. It was scary as hell. I ain't
makin' this up.

>I believe Travis' slow motion memory is exaggerating a bit.

Sorry, but it's not exaggerating at all... Proof:
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/temp/ohcrap.jpg
See the ruts and how my tires were in them and high center? It's very
obvious that my feet could hit the ground in that picture. Look at
the passenger front fender. That's my friend David holding down that
side to keep the Jeep from rolling over. Hey, you can even see where
my feet were when I was still strapped in. See the gouges in the dirt
next to the driver's seat? Hell, that picture makes it look like a
Sunday drive. The angles never show up well on film. When you drive
like I do, there's no need to exaggerate. Werd. To yer mutha. ;-)



--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
:wq!

Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 

On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 14:36:45 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> shared the following:

>Hi Sandman,
> Agreed. It is a natural, instinctive thing to do, and it hard to
>refrain from doing, but virtually everyone that has, has wound up with a
>bone stick out as in compound fracture. Think about it, there is no way
>you may touch the ground on the down hill side, until well after the
>fact.

What do you mean there is no way you can touch the ground on the
downhill side? I have a witness. It happened exactly the way I
described it. That Jeep was going, OVER. It was tilting a LOT when I
put my feet to the ground, but I did put my feet on the ground while
still strapped into my seatbelt. It was scary as hell. I ain't
makin' this up.

>I believe Travis' slow motion memory is exaggerating a bit.

Sorry, but it's not exaggerating at all... Proof:
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/temp/ohcrap.jpg
See the ruts and how my tires were in them and high center? It's very
obvious that my feet could hit the ground in that picture. Look at
the passenger front fender. That's my friend David holding down that
side to keep the Jeep from rolling over. Hey, you can even see where
my feet were when I was still strapped in. See the gouges in the dirt
next to the driver's seat? Hell, that picture makes it look like a
Sunday drive. The angles never show up well on film. When you drive
like I do, there's no need to exaggerate. Werd. To yer mutha. ;-)



--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
:wq!

Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
 

travis, at least you had the right license plate for the episode!! :)

travis wrote:

> On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 14:36:45 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@cox.net> shared the following:
>
>
>>Hi Sandman,
>> Agreed. It is a natural, instinctive thing to do, and it hard to
>>refrain from doing, but virtually everyone that has, has wound up with a
>>bone stick out as in compound fracture. Think about it, there is no way
>>you may touch the ground on the down hill side, until well after the
>>fact.
>
>
> What do you mean there is no way you can touch the ground on the
> downhill side? I have a witness. It happened exactly the way I
> described it. That Jeep was going, OVER. It was tilting a LOT when I
> put my feet to the ground, but I did put my feet on the ground while
> still strapped into my seatbelt. It was scary as hell. I ain't
> makin' this up.
>
>
>>I believe Travis' slow motion memory is exaggerating a bit.
>
>
> Sorry, but it's not exaggerating at all... Proof:
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/temp/ohcrap.jpg
> See the ruts and how my tires were in them and high center? It's very
> obvious that my feet could hit the ground in that picture. Look at
> the passenger front fender. That's my friend David holding down that
> side to keep the Jeep from rolling over. Hey, you can even see where
> my feet were when I was still strapped in. See the gouges in the dirt
> next to the driver's seat? Hell, that picture makes it look like a
> Sunday drive. The angles never show up well on film. When you drive
> like I do, there's no need to exaggerate. Werd. To yer mutha. ;-)
>
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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__________________________________________________ _________