Maybe slightly OT. trailer winch wiring
05-27-2006, 11:56 PM
#61
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Re: Maybe slightly OT. trailer winch wiring
Hi Mike,
I decided to take everyones advice on this. I bought 4 Jeep/Ford solenoids
at the local Farm & Fleet today. I still need to pick up some wire, but am
thinking battery cables might do the trick if I can find them cheap enough.
It seems my project is getting more expensive everyday. Anyone know what the
minimum gauge on the excite wires should be for these solenoids? I am taking
a wild guess and say 18ga.
Brian
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44785124.8C61E9DA@sympatico.ca...
>I do not believe the headlight relays are large enough to carry the
> winch amp load.
>
> I stalled my winch once and smoked out the 4? ga. cables hot enough to
> blow the heat shrink off them.
>
> The wiring is the same to just use solenoid relays instead, I would go
> that route.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Bulletsnbrains wrote:
>>
>> Ok,
>>
>> Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch mounted
>> on
>> the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on
>> topic)
>>
>> I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on
>> toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger than
>> 3K
>> lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays
>> because
>> of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical firewall
>> mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp.
>>
>> I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical
>> contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice provided
>> thru ground of trailer frame
>>
>> I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost
>> identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net search.
>> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241
>>
>> Brian
>
I decided to take everyones advice on this. I bought 4 Jeep/Ford solenoids
at the local Farm & Fleet today. I still need to pick up some wire, but am
thinking battery cables might do the trick if I can find them cheap enough.
It seems my project is getting more expensive everyday. Anyone know what the
minimum gauge on the excite wires should be for these solenoids? I am taking
a wild guess and say 18ga.
Brian
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44785124.8C61E9DA@sympatico.ca...
>I do not believe the headlight relays are large enough to carry the
> winch amp load.
>
> I stalled my winch once and smoked out the 4? ga. cables hot enough to
> blow the heat shrink off them.
>
> The wiring is the same to just use solenoid relays instead, I would go
> that route.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Bulletsnbrains wrote:
>>
>> Ok,
>>
>> Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch mounted
>> on
>> the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on
>> topic)
>>
>> I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on
>> toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger than
>> 3K
>> lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays
>> because
>> of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical firewall
>> mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp.
>>
>> I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical
>> contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice provided
>> thru ground of trailer frame
>>
>> I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost
>> identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net search.
>> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241
>>
>> Brian
>
05-28-2006, 12:53 AM
#62
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Re: Maybe slightly OT. trailer winch wiring
If you use battery cables get the 'heavy duty" ones because the ones they
sell for standard duty are already too small....
As for the switch wire gauge...... I don't think the stuff Ford used was
that large.... but larger is almost always better
"Bulletsnbrains" <bstrang@nopants.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:fc9eg.85129$F_3.22204@newssvr29.news.prodigy. net...
> Hi Mike,
>
> I decided to take everyones advice on this. I bought 4 Jeep/Ford solenoids
> at the local Farm & Fleet today. I still need to pick up some wire, but am
> thinking battery cables might do the trick if I can find them cheap
> enough. It seems my project is getting more expensive everyday. Anyone
> know what the minimum gauge on the excite wires should be for these
> solenoids? I am taking a wild guess and say 18ga.
>
> Brian
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44785124.8C61E9DA@sympatico.ca...
>>I do not believe the headlight relays are large enough to carry the
>> winch amp load.
>>
>> I stalled my winch once and smoked out the 4? ga. cables hot enough to
>> blow the heat shrink off them.
>>
>> The wiring is the same to just use solenoid relays instead, I would go
>> that route.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> Bulletsnbrains wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok,
>>>
>>> Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch
>>> mounted on
>>> the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on
>>> topic)
>>>
>>> I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on
>>> toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger than
>>> 3K
>>> lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays
>>> because
>>> of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical firewall
>>> mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp.
>>>
>>> I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical
>>> contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice provided
>>> thru ground of trailer frame
>>>
>>> I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost
>>> identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net search.
>>> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241
>>>
>>> Brian
>>
>
>
sell for standard duty are already too small....
As for the switch wire gauge...... I don't think the stuff Ford used was
that large.... but larger is almost always better
"Bulletsnbrains" <bstrang@nopants.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:fc9eg.85129$F_3.22204@newssvr29.news.prodigy. net...
> Hi Mike,
>
> I decided to take everyones advice on this. I bought 4 Jeep/Ford solenoids
> at the local Farm & Fleet today. I still need to pick up some wire, but am
> thinking battery cables might do the trick if I can find them cheap
> enough. It seems my project is getting more expensive everyday. Anyone
> know what the minimum gauge on the excite wires should be for these
> solenoids? I am taking a wild guess and say 18ga.
>
> Brian
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44785124.8C61E9DA@sympatico.ca...
>>I do not believe the headlight relays are large enough to carry the
>> winch amp load.
>>
>> I stalled my winch once and smoked out the 4? ga. cables hot enough to
>> blow the heat shrink off them.
>>
>> The wiring is the same to just use solenoid relays instead, I would go
>> that route.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> Bulletsnbrains wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok,
>>>
>>> Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch
>>> mounted on
>>> the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on
>>> topic)
>>>
>>> I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on
>>> toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger than
>>> 3K
>>> lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays
>>> because
>>> of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical firewall
>>> mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp.
>>>
>>> I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical
>>> contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice provided
>>> thru ground of trailer frame
>>>
>>> I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost
>>> identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net search.
>>> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241
>>>
>>> Brian
>>
>
>
05-28-2006, 12:53 AM
#63
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Re: Maybe slightly OT. trailer winch wiring
If you use battery cables get the 'heavy duty" ones because the ones they
sell for standard duty are already too small....
As for the switch wire gauge...... I don't think the stuff Ford used was
that large.... but larger is almost always better
"Bulletsnbrains" <bstrang@nopants.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:fc9eg.85129$F_3.22204@newssvr29.news.prodigy. net...
> Hi Mike,
>
> I decided to take everyones advice on this. I bought 4 Jeep/Ford solenoids
> at the local Farm & Fleet today. I still need to pick up some wire, but am
> thinking battery cables might do the trick if I can find them cheap
> enough. It seems my project is getting more expensive everyday. Anyone
> know what the minimum gauge on the excite wires should be for these
> solenoids? I am taking a wild guess and say 18ga.
>
> Brian
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44785124.8C61E9DA@sympatico.ca...
>>I do not believe the headlight relays are large enough to carry the
>> winch amp load.
>>
>> I stalled my winch once and smoked out the 4? ga. cables hot enough to
>> blow the heat shrink off them.
>>
>> The wiring is the same to just use solenoid relays instead, I would go
>> that route.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> Bulletsnbrains wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok,
>>>
>>> Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch
>>> mounted on
>>> the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on
>>> topic)
>>>
>>> I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on
>>> toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger than
>>> 3K
>>> lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays
>>> because
>>> of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical firewall
>>> mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp.
>>>
>>> I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical
>>> contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice provided
>>> thru ground of trailer frame
>>>
>>> I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost
>>> identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net search.
>>> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241
>>>
>>> Brian
>>
>
>
sell for standard duty are already too small....
As for the switch wire gauge...... I don't think the stuff Ford used was
that large.... but larger is almost always better
"Bulletsnbrains" <bstrang@nopants.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:fc9eg.85129$F_3.22204@newssvr29.news.prodigy. net...
> Hi Mike,
>
> I decided to take everyones advice on this. I bought 4 Jeep/Ford solenoids
> at the local Farm & Fleet today. I still need to pick up some wire, but am
> thinking battery cables might do the trick if I can find them cheap
> enough. It seems my project is getting more expensive everyday. Anyone
> know what the minimum gauge on the excite wires should be for these
> solenoids? I am taking a wild guess and say 18ga.
>
> Brian
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44785124.8C61E9DA@sympatico.ca...
>>I do not believe the headlight relays are large enough to carry the
>> winch amp load.
>>
>> I stalled my winch once and smoked out the 4? ga. cables hot enough to
>> blow the heat shrink off them.
>>
>> The wiring is the same to just use solenoid relays instead, I would go
>> that route.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> Bulletsnbrains wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok,
>>>
>>> Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch
>>> mounted on
>>> the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on
>>> topic)
>>>
>>> I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on
>>> toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger than
>>> 3K
>>> lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays
>>> because
>>> of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical firewall
>>> mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp.
>>>
>>> I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical
>>> contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice provided
>>> thru ground of trailer frame
>>>
>>> I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost
>>> identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net search.
>>> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241
>>>
>>> Brian
>>
>
>
05-28-2006, 12:53 AM
#64
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Re: Maybe slightly OT. trailer winch wiring
If you use battery cables get the 'heavy duty" ones because the ones they
sell for standard duty are already too small....
As for the switch wire gauge...... I don't think the stuff Ford used was
that large.... but larger is almost always better
"Bulletsnbrains" <bstrang@nopants.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:fc9eg.85129$F_3.22204@newssvr29.news.prodigy. net...
> Hi Mike,
>
> I decided to take everyones advice on this. I bought 4 Jeep/Ford solenoids
> at the local Farm & Fleet today. I still need to pick up some wire, but am
> thinking battery cables might do the trick if I can find them cheap
> enough. It seems my project is getting more expensive everyday. Anyone
> know what the minimum gauge on the excite wires should be for these
> solenoids? I am taking a wild guess and say 18ga.
>
> Brian
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44785124.8C61E9DA@sympatico.ca...
>>I do not believe the headlight relays are large enough to carry the
>> winch amp load.
>>
>> I stalled my winch once and smoked out the 4? ga. cables hot enough to
>> blow the heat shrink off them.
>>
>> The wiring is the same to just use solenoid relays instead, I would go
>> that route.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> Bulletsnbrains wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok,
>>>
>>> Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch
>>> mounted on
>>> the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on
>>> topic)
>>>
>>> I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on
>>> toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger than
>>> 3K
>>> lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays
>>> because
>>> of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical firewall
>>> mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp.
>>>
>>> I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical
>>> contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice provided
>>> thru ground of trailer frame
>>>
>>> I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost
>>> identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net search.
>>> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241
>>>
>>> Brian
>>
>
>
sell for standard duty are already too small....
As for the switch wire gauge...... I don't think the stuff Ford used was
that large.... but larger is almost always better
"Bulletsnbrains" <bstrang@nopants.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:fc9eg.85129$F_3.22204@newssvr29.news.prodigy. net...
> Hi Mike,
>
> I decided to take everyones advice on this. I bought 4 Jeep/Ford solenoids
> at the local Farm & Fleet today. I still need to pick up some wire, but am
> thinking battery cables might do the trick if I can find them cheap
> enough. It seems my project is getting more expensive everyday. Anyone
> know what the minimum gauge on the excite wires should be for these
> solenoids? I am taking a wild guess and say 18ga.
>
> Brian
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44785124.8C61E9DA@sympatico.ca...
>>I do not believe the headlight relays are large enough to carry the
>> winch amp load.
>>
>> I stalled my winch once and smoked out the 4? ga. cables hot enough to
>> blow the heat shrink off them.
>>
>> The wiring is the same to just use solenoid relays instead, I would go
>> that route.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> Bulletsnbrains wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok,
>>>
>>> Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch
>>> mounted on
>>> the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on
>>> topic)
>>>
>>> I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on
>>> toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger than
>>> 3K
>>> lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays
>>> because
>>> of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical firewall
>>> mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp.
>>>
>>> I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical
>>> contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice provided
>>> thru ground of trailer frame
>>>
>>> I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost
>>> identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net search.
>>> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241
>>>
>>> Brian
>>
>
>
05-28-2006, 01:18 AM
#65
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Re: Maybe slightly OT. trailer winch wiring
Rule 1: It always cost more than you think.
Rule 2: It always takes longer than you think.
Rule 3: It never works exactly like you planned anyway.
On Sun, 28 May 2006 03:56:59 UTC "Bulletsnbrains"
<bstrang@nopants.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> I decided to take everyones advice on this. I bought 4 Jeep/Ford solenoids
> at the local Farm & Fleet today. I still need to pick up some wire, but am
> thinking battery cables might do the trick if I can find them cheap enough.
> It seems my project is getting more expensive everyday. Anyone know what the
> minimum gauge on the excite wires should be for these solenoids? I am taking
> a wild guess and say 18ga.
>
> Brian
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44785124.8C61E9DA@sympatico.ca...
> >I do not believe the headlight relays are large enough to carry the
> > winch amp load.
> >
> > I stalled my winch once and smoked out the 4? ga. cables hot enough to
> > blow the heat shrink off them.
> >
> > The wiring is the same to just use solenoid relays instead, I would go
> > that route.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Bulletsnbrains wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok,
> >>
> >> Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch mounted
> >> on
> >> the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on
> >> topic)
> >>
> >> I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on
> >> toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger than
> >> 3K
> >> lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays
> >> because
> >> of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical firewall
> >> mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp.
> >>
> >> I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical
> >> contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice provided
> >> thru ground of trailer frame
> >>
> >> I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost
> >> identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net search.
> >> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241
> >>
> >> Brian
> >
>
>
--
Will Honea
Rule 2: It always takes longer than you think.
Rule 3: It never works exactly like you planned anyway.
On Sun, 28 May 2006 03:56:59 UTC "Bulletsnbrains"
<bstrang@nopants.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> I decided to take everyones advice on this. I bought 4 Jeep/Ford solenoids
> at the local Farm & Fleet today. I still need to pick up some wire, but am
> thinking battery cables might do the trick if I can find them cheap enough.
> It seems my project is getting more expensive everyday. Anyone know what the
> minimum gauge on the excite wires should be for these solenoids? I am taking
> a wild guess and say 18ga.
>
> Brian
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44785124.8C61E9DA@sympatico.ca...
> >I do not believe the headlight relays are large enough to carry the
> > winch amp load.
> >
> > I stalled my winch once and smoked out the 4? ga. cables hot enough to
> > blow the heat shrink off them.
> >
> > The wiring is the same to just use solenoid relays instead, I would go
> > that route.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Bulletsnbrains wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok,
> >>
> >> Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch mounted
> >> on
> >> the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on
> >> topic)
> >>
> >> I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on
> >> toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger than
> >> 3K
> >> lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays
> >> because
> >> of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical firewall
> >> mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp.
> >>
> >> I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical
> >> contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice provided
> >> thru ground of trailer frame
> >>
> >> I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost
> >> identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net search.
> >> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241
> >>
> >> Brian
> >
>
>
--
Will Honea
05-28-2006, 01:18 AM
#66
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Re: Maybe slightly OT. trailer winch wiring
Rule 1: It always cost more than you think.
Rule 2: It always takes longer than you think.
Rule 3: It never works exactly like you planned anyway.
On Sun, 28 May 2006 03:56:59 UTC "Bulletsnbrains"
<bstrang@nopants.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> I decided to take everyones advice on this. I bought 4 Jeep/Ford solenoids
> at the local Farm & Fleet today. I still need to pick up some wire, but am
> thinking battery cables might do the trick if I can find them cheap enough.
> It seems my project is getting more expensive everyday. Anyone know what the
> minimum gauge on the excite wires should be for these solenoids? I am taking
> a wild guess and say 18ga.
>
> Brian
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44785124.8C61E9DA@sympatico.ca...
> >I do not believe the headlight relays are large enough to carry the
> > winch amp load.
> >
> > I stalled my winch once and smoked out the 4? ga. cables hot enough to
> > blow the heat shrink off them.
> >
> > The wiring is the same to just use solenoid relays instead, I would go
> > that route.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Bulletsnbrains wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok,
> >>
> >> Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch mounted
> >> on
> >> the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on
> >> topic)
> >>
> >> I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on
> >> toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger than
> >> 3K
> >> lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays
> >> because
> >> of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical firewall
> >> mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp.
> >>
> >> I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical
> >> contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice provided
> >> thru ground of trailer frame
> >>
> >> I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost
> >> identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net search.
> >> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241
> >>
> >> Brian
> >
>
>
--
Will Honea
Rule 2: It always takes longer than you think.
Rule 3: It never works exactly like you planned anyway.
On Sun, 28 May 2006 03:56:59 UTC "Bulletsnbrains"
<bstrang@nopants.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> I decided to take everyones advice on this. I bought 4 Jeep/Ford solenoids
> at the local Farm & Fleet today. I still need to pick up some wire, but am
> thinking battery cables might do the trick if I can find them cheap enough.
> It seems my project is getting more expensive everyday. Anyone know what the
> minimum gauge on the excite wires should be for these solenoids? I am taking
> a wild guess and say 18ga.
>
> Brian
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44785124.8C61E9DA@sympatico.ca...
> >I do not believe the headlight relays are large enough to carry the
> > winch amp load.
> >
> > I stalled my winch once and smoked out the 4? ga. cables hot enough to
> > blow the heat shrink off them.
> >
> > The wiring is the same to just use solenoid relays instead, I would go
> > that route.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Bulletsnbrains wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok,
> >>
> >> Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch mounted
> >> on
> >> the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on
> >> topic)
> >>
> >> I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on
> >> toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger than
> >> 3K
> >> lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays
> >> because
> >> of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical firewall
> >> mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp.
> >>
> >> I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical
> >> contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice provided
> >> thru ground of trailer frame
> >>
> >> I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost
> >> identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net search.
> >> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241
> >>
> >> Brian
> >
>
>
--
Will Honea
05-28-2006, 01:18 AM
#67
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Maybe slightly OT. trailer winch wiring
Rule 1: It always cost more than you think.
Rule 2: It always takes longer than you think.
Rule 3: It never works exactly like you planned anyway.
On Sun, 28 May 2006 03:56:59 UTC "Bulletsnbrains"
<bstrang@nopants.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> I decided to take everyones advice on this. I bought 4 Jeep/Ford solenoids
> at the local Farm & Fleet today. I still need to pick up some wire, but am
> thinking battery cables might do the trick if I can find them cheap enough.
> It seems my project is getting more expensive everyday. Anyone know what the
> minimum gauge on the excite wires should be for these solenoids? I am taking
> a wild guess and say 18ga.
>
> Brian
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44785124.8C61E9DA@sympatico.ca...
> >I do not believe the headlight relays are large enough to carry the
> > winch amp load.
> >
> > I stalled my winch once and smoked out the 4? ga. cables hot enough to
> > blow the heat shrink off them.
> >
> > The wiring is the same to just use solenoid relays instead, I would go
> > that route.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Bulletsnbrains wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok,
> >>
> >> Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch mounted
> >> on
> >> the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on
> >> topic)
> >>
> >> I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on
> >> toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger than
> >> 3K
> >> lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays
> >> because
> >> of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical firewall
> >> mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp.
> >>
> >> I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical
> >> contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice provided
> >> thru ground of trailer frame
> >>
> >> I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost
> >> identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net search.
> >> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241
> >>
> >> Brian
> >
>
>
--
Will Honea
Rule 2: It always takes longer than you think.
Rule 3: It never works exactly like you planned anyway.
On Sun, 28 May 2006 03:56:59 UTC "Bulletsnbrains"
<bstrang@nopants.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> I decided to take everyones advice on this. I bought 4 Jeep/Ford solenoids
> at the local Farm & Fleet today. I still need to pick up some wire, but am
> thinking battery cables might do the trick if I can find them cheap enough.
> It seems my project is getting more expensive everyday. Anyone know what the
> minimum gauge on the excite wires should be for these solenoids? I am taking
> a wild guess and say 18ga.
>
> Brian
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44785124.8C61E9DA@sympatico.ca...
> >I do not believe the headlight relays are large enough to carry the
> > winch amp load.
> >
> > I stalled my winch once and smoked out the 4? ga. cables hot enough to
> > blow the heat shrink off them.
> >
> > The wiring is the same to just use solenoid relays instead, I would go
> > that route.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Bulletsnbrains wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok,
> >>
> >> Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch mounted
> >> on
> >> the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on
> >> topic)
> >>
> >> I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on
> >> toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger than
> >> 3K
> >> lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays
> >> because
> >> of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical firewall
> >> mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp.
> >>
> >> I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical
> >> contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice provided
> >> thru ground of trailer frame
> >>
> >> I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost
> >> identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net search.
> >> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241
> >>
> >> Brian
> >
>
>
--
Will Honea
05-28-2006, 10:07 AM
#68
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Maybe slightly OT. trailer winch wiring
I would use at least 16 ga., more for mechanical strength than for any other
reason.
Earle
"Bulletsnbrains" <bstrang@nopants.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:fc9eg.85129$F_3.22204@newssvr29.news.prodigy. net...
> Hi Mike,
>
> I decided to take everyones advice on this. I bought 4 Jeep/Ford solenoids
> at the local Farm & Fleet today. I still need to pick up some wire, but am
> thinking battery cables might do the trick if I can find them cheap
enough.
> It seems my project is getting more expensive everyday. Anyone know what
the
> minimum gauge on the excite wires should be for these solenoids? I am
taking
> a wild guess and say 18ga.
>
> Brian
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44785124.8C61E9DA@sympatico.ca...
> >I do not believe the headlight relays are large enough to carry the
> > winch amp load.
> >
> > I stalled my winch once and smoked out the 4? ga. cables hot enough to
> > blow the heat shrink off them.
> >
> > The wiring is the same to just use solenoid relays instead, I would go
> > that route.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Bulletsnbrains wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok,
> >>
> >> Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch
mounted
> >> on
> >> the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on
> >> topic)
> >>
> >> I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on
> >> toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger
than
> >> 3K
> >> lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays
> >> because
> >> of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical
firewall
> >> mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp.
> >>
> >> I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical
> >> contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice
provided
> >> thru ground of trailer frame
> >>
> >> I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost
> >> identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net
search.
> >> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241
> >>
> >> Brian
> >
>
>
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Earle
"Bulletsnbrains" <bstrang@nopants.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:fc9eg.85129$F_3.22204@newssvr29.news.prodigy. net...
> Hi Mike,
>
> I decided to take everyones advice on this. I bought 4 Jeep/Ford solenoids
> at the local Farm & Fleet today. I still need to pick up some wire, but am
> thinking battery cables might do the trick if I can find them cheap
enough.
> It seems my project is getting more expensive everyday. Anyone know what
the
> minimum gauge on the excite wires should be for these solenoids? I am
taking
> a wild guess and say 18ga.
>
> Brian
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44785124.8C61E9DA@sympatico.ca...
> >I do not believe the headlight relays are large enough to carry the
> > winch amp load.
> >
> > I stalled my winch once and smoked out the 4? ga. cables hot enough to
> > blow the heat shrink off them.
> >
> > The wiring is the same to just use solenoid relays instead, I would go
> > that route.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Bulletsnbrains wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok,
> >>
> >> Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch
mounted
> >> on
> >> the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on
> >> topic)
> >>
> >> I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on
> >> toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger
than
> >> 3K
> >> lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays
> >> because
> >> of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical
firewall
> >> mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp.
> >>
> >> I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical
> >> contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice
provided
> >> thru ground of trailer frame
> >>
> >> I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost
> >> identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net
search.
> >> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241
> >>
> >> Brian
> >
>
>
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05-28-2006, 10:07 AM
#69
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Posts: n/a
Re: Maybe slightly OT. trailer winch wiring
I would use at least 16 ga., more for mechanical strength than for any other
reason.
Earle
"Bulletsnbrains" <bstrang@nopants.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:fc9eg.85129$F_3.22204@newssvr29.news.prodigy. net...
> Hi Mike,
>
> I decided to take everyones advice on this. I bought 4 Jeep/Ford solenoids
> at the local Farm & Fleet today. I still need to pick up some wire, but am
> thinking battery cables might do the trick if I can find them cheap
enough.
> It seems my project is getting more expensive everyday. Anyone know what
the
> minimum gauge on the excite wires should be for these solenoids? I am
taking
> a wild guess and say 18ga.
>
> Brian
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44785124.8C61E9DA@sympatico.ca...
> >I do not believe the headlight relays are large enough to carry the
> > winch amp load.
> >
> > I stalled my winch once and smoked out the 4? ga. cables hot enough to
> > blow the heat shrink off them.
> >
> > The wiring is the same to just use solenoid relays instead, I would go
> > that route.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Bulletsnbrains wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok,
> >>
> >> Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch
mounted
> >> on
> >> the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on
> >> topic)
> >>
> >> I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on
> >> toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger
than
> >> 3K
> >> lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays
> >> because
> >> of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical
firewall
> >> mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp.
> >>
> >> I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical
> >> contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice
provided
> >> thru ground of trailer frame
> >>
> >> I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost
> >> identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net
search.
> >> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241
> >>
> >> Brian
> >
>
>
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Earle
"Bulletsnbrains" <bstrang@nopants.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:fc9eg.85129$F_3.22204@newssvr29.news.prodigy. net...
> Hi Mike,
>
> I decided to take everyones advice on this. I bought 4 Jeep/Ford solenoids
> at the local Farm & Fleet today. I still need to pick up some wire, but am
> thinking battery cables might do the trick if I can find them cheap
enough.
> It seems my project is getting more expensive everyday. Anyone know what
the
> minimum gauge on the excite wires should be for these solenoids? I am
taking
> a wild guess and say 18ga.
>
> Brian
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44785124.8C61E9DA@sympatico.ca...
> >I do not believe the headlight relays are large enough to carry the
> > winch amp load.
> >
> > I stalled my winch once and smoked out the 4? ga. cables hot enough to
> > blow the heat shrink off them.
> >
> > The wiring is the same to just use solenoid relays instead, I would go
> > that route.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Bulletsnbrains wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok,
> >>
> >> Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch
mounted
> >> on
> >> the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on
> >> topic)
> >>
> >> I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on
> >> toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger
than
> >> 3K
> >> lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays
> >> because
> >> of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical
firewall
> >> mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp.
> >>
> >> I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical
> >> contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice
provided
> >> thru ground of trailer frame
> >>
> >> I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost
> >> identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net
search.
> >> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241
> >>
> >> Brian
> >
>
>
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05-28-2006, 10:07 AM
#70
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Posts: n/a
Re: Maybe slightly OT. trailer winch wiring
I would use at least 16 ga., more for mechanical strength than for any other
reason.
Earle
"Bulletsnbrains" <bstrang@nopants.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:fc9eg.85129$F_3.22204@newssvr29.news.prodigy. net...
> Hi Mike,
>
> I decided to take everyones advice on this. I bought 4 Jeep/Ford solenoids
> at the local Farm & Fleet today. I still need to pick up some wire, but am
> thinking battery cables might do the trick if I can find them cheap
enough.
> It seems my project is getting more expensive everyday. Anyone know what
the
> minimum gauge on the excite wires should be for these solenoids? I am
taking
> a wild guess and say 18ga.
>
> Brian
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44785124.8C61E9DA@sympatico.ca...
> >I do not believe the headlight relays are large enough to carry the
> > winch amp load.
> >
> > I stalled my winch once and smoked out the 4? ga. cables hot enough to
> > blow the heat shrink off them.
> >
> > The wiring is the same to just use solenoid relays instead, I would go
> > that route.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Bulletsnbrains wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok,
> >>
> >> Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch
mounted
> >> on
> >> the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on
> >> topic)
> >>
> >> I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on
> >> toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger
than
> >> 3K
> >> lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays
> >> because
> >> of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical
firewall
> >> mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp.
> >>
> >> I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical
> >> contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice
provided
> >> thru ground of trailer frame
> >>
> >> I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost
> >> identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net
search.
> >> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241
> >>
> >> Brian
> >
>
>
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reason.
Earle
"Bulletsnbrains" <bstrang@nopants.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:fc9eg.85129$F_3.22204@newssvr29.news.prodigy. net...
> Hi Mike,
>
> I decided to take everyones advice on this. I bought 4 Jeep/Ford solenoids
> at the local Farm & Fleet today. I still need to pick up some wire, but am
> thinking battery cables might do the trick if I can find them cheap
enough.
> It seems my project is getting more expensive everyday. Anyone know what
the
> minimum gauge on the excite wires should be for these solenoids? I am
taking
> a wild guess and say 18ga.
>
> Brian
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44785124.8C61E9DA@sympatico.ca...
> >I do not believe the headlight relays are large enough to carry the
> > winch amp load.
> >
> > I stalled my winch once and smoked out the 4? ga. cables hot enough to
> > blow the heat shrink off them.
> >
> > The wiring is the same to just use solenoid relays instead, I would go
> > that route.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Bulletsnbrains wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok,
> >>
> >> Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch
mounted
> >> on
> >> the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on
> >> topic)
> >>
> >> I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on
> >> toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger
than
> >> 3K
> >> lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays
> >> because
> >> of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical
firewall
> >> mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp.
> >>
> >> I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical
> >> contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice
provided
> >> thru ground of trailer frame
> >>
> >> I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost
> >> identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net
search.
> >> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241
> >>
> >> Brian
> >
>
>
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