Maybe slightly OT. trailer winch wiring
05-27-2006, 09:37 AM
#21
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Re: Maybe slightly OT. trailer winch wiring
Mike,
The relays are 30 amp. The winch is very small, I'm guessing 2500 maybe 3000
lb capacity. I'll post a pic on Alt.Pictures.Binaries.Autos.4x4 in a few
minutes.
Brian
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44785124.8C61E9DA@sympatico.ca...
>I do not believe the headlight relays are large enough to carry the
> winch amp load.
>
> I stalled my winch once and smoked out the 4? ga. cables hot enough to
> blow the heat shrink off them.
>
> The wiring is the same to just use solenoid relays instead, I would go
> that route.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Bulletsnbrains wrote:
>>
>> Ok,
>>
>> Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch mounted
>> on
>> the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on
>> topic)
>>
>> I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on
>> toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger than
>> 3K
>> lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays
>> because
>> of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical firewall
>> mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp.
>>
>> I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical
>> contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice provided
>> thru ground of trailer frame
>>
>> I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost
>> identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net search.
>> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241
>>
>> Brian
>
The relays are 30 amp. The winch is very small, I'm guessing 2500 maybe 3000
lb capacity. I'll post a pic on Alt.Pictures.Binaries.Autos.4x4 in a few
minutes.
Brian
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44785124.8C61E9DA@sympatico.ca...
>I do not believe the headlight relays are large enough to carry the
> winch amp load.
>
> I stalled my winch once and smoked out the 4? ga. cables hot enough to
> blow the heat shrink off them.
>
> The wiring is the same to just use solenoid relays instead, I would go
> that route.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Bulletsnbrains wrote:
>>
>> Ok,
>>
>> Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch mounted
>> on
>> the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on
>> topic)
>>
>> I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on
>> toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger than
>> 3K
>> lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays
>> because
>> of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical firewall
>> mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp.
>>
>> I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical
>> contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice provided
>> thru ground of trailer frame
>>
>> I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost
>> identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net search.
>> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241
>>
>> Brian
>
05-27-2006, 09:37 AM
#22
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Re: Maybe slightly OT. trailer winch wiring
Mike,
The relays are 30 amp. The winch is very small, I'm guessing 2500 maybe 3000
lb capacity. I'll post a pic on Alt.Pictures.Binaries.Autos.4x4 in a few
minutes.
Brian
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44785124.8C61E9DA@sympatico.ca...
>I do not believe the headlight relays are large enough to carry the
> winch amp load.
>
> I stalled my winch once and smoked out the 4? ga. cables hot enough to
> blow the heat shrink off them.
>
> The wiring is the same to just use solenoid relays instead, I would go
> that route.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Bulletsnbrains wrote:
>>
>> Ok,
>>
>> Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch mounted
>> on
>> the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on
>> topic)
>>
>> I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on
>> toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger than
>> 3K
>> lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays
>> because
>> of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical firewall
>> mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp.
>>
>> I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical
>> contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice provided
>> thru ground of trailer frame
>>
>> I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost
>> identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net search.
>> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241
>>
>> Brian
>
The relays are 30 amp. The winch is very small, I'm guessing 2500 maybe 3000
lb capacity. I'll post a pic on Alt.Pictures.Binaries.Autos.4x4 in a few
minutes.
Brian
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44785124.8C61E9DA@sympatico.ca...
>I do not believe the headlight relays are large enough to carry the
> winch amp load.
>
> I stalled my winch once and smoked out the 4? ga. cables hot enough to
> blow the heat shrink off them.
>
> The wiring is the same to just use solenoid relays instead, I would go
> that route.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Bulletsnbrains wrote:
>>
>> Ok,
>>
>> Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch mounted
>> on
>> the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on
>> topic)
>>
>> I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on
>> toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger than
>> 3K
>> lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays
>> because
>> of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical firewall
>> mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp.
>>
>> I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical
>> contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice provided
>> thru ground of trailer frame
>>
>> I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost
>> identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net search.
>> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241
>>
>> Brian
>
05-27-2006, 09:53 AM
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Re: Maybe slightly OT. trailer winch wiring
To answer the diode question, no you don't need them if you can even
find ones that can handle the amps. When the trigger is off the relay
is an open circuit.
Winches pull a lot more power than you are thinking I think.
Mike
Bulletsnbrains wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> The relays are 30 amp. The winch is very small, I'm guessing 2500 maybe 3000
> lb capacity. I'll post a pic on Alt.Pictures.Binaries.Autos.4x4 in a few
> minutes.
>
> Brian
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44785124.8C61E9DA@sympatico.ca...
> >I do not believe the headlight relays are large enough to carry the
> > winch amp load.
> >
> > I stalled my winch once and smoked out the 4? ga. cables hot enough to
> > blow the heat shrink off them.
> >
> > The wiring is the same to just use solenoid relays instead, I would go
> > that route.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Bulletsnbrains wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok,
> >>
> >> Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch mounted
> >> on
> >> the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on
> >> topic)
> >>
> >> I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on
> >> toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger than
> >> 3K
> >> lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays
> >> because
> >> of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical firewall
> >> mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp.
> >>
> >> I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical
> >> contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice provided
> >> thru ground of trailer frame
> >>
> >> I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost
> >> identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net search.
> >> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241
> >>
> >> Brian
> >
find ones that can handle the amps. When the trigger is off the relay
is an open circuit.
Winches pull a lot more power than you are thinking I think.
Mike
Bulletsnbrains wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> The relays are 30 amp. The winch is very small, I'm guessing 2500 maybe 3000
> lb capacity. I'll post a pic on Alt.Pictures.Binaries.Autos.4x4 in a few
> minutes.
>
> Brian
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44785124.8C61E9DA@sympatico.ca...
> >I do not believe the headlight relays are large enough to carry the
> > winch amp load.
> >
> > I stalled my winch once and smoked out the 4? ga. cables hot enough to
> > blow the heat shrink off them.
> >
> > The wiring is the same to just use solenoid relays instead, I would go
> > that route.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Bulletsnbrains wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok,
> >>
> >> Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch mounted
> >> on
> >> the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on
> >> topic)
> >>
> >> I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on
> >> toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger than
> >> 3K
> >> lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays
> >> because
> >> of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical firewall
> >> mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp.
> >>
> >> I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical
> >> contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice provided
> >> thru ground of trailer frame
> >>
> >> I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost
> >> identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net search.
> >> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241
> >>
> >> Brian
> >
05-27-2006, 09:53 AM
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Re: Maybe slightly OT. trailer winch wiring
To answer the diode question, no you don't need them if you can even
find ones that can handle the amps. When the trigger is off the relay
is an open circuit.
Winches pull a lot more power than you are thinking I think.
Mike
Bulletsnbrains wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> The relays are 30 amp. The winch is very small, I'm guessing 2500 maybe 3000
> lb capacity. I'll post a pic on Alt.Pictures.Binaries.Autos.4x4 in a few
> minutes.
>
> Brian
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44785124.8C61E9DA@sympatico.ca...
> >I do not believe the headlight relays are large enough to carry the
> > winch amp load.
> >
> > I stalled my winch once and smoked out the 4? ga. cables hot enough to
> > blow the heat shrink off them.
> >
> > The wiring is the same to just use solenoid relays instead, I would go
> > that route.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Bulletsnbrains wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok,
> >>
> >> Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch mounted
> >> on
> >> the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on
> >> topic)
> >>
> >> I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on
> >> toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger than
> >> 3K
> >> lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays
> >> because
> >> of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical firewall
> >> mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp.
> >>
> >> I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical
> >> contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice provided
> >> thru ground of trailer frame
> >>
> >> I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost
> >> identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net search.
> >> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241
> >>
> >> Brian
> >
find ones that can handle the amps. When the trigger is off the relay
is an open circuit.
Winches pull a lot more power than you are thinking I think.
Mike
Bulletsnbrains wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> The relays are 30 amp. The winch is very small, I'm guessing 2500 maybe 3000
> lb capacity. I'll post a pic on Alt.Pictures.Binaries.Autos.4x4 in a few
> minutes.
>
> Brian
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44785124.8C61E9DA@sympatico.ca...
> >I do not believe the headlight relays are large enough to carry the
> > winch amp load.
> >
> > I stalled my winch once and smoked out the 4? ga. cables hot enough to
> > blow the heat shrink off them.
> >
> > The wiring is the same to just use solenoid relays instead, I would go
> > that route.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Bulletsnbrains wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok,
> >>
> >> Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch mounted
> >> on
> >> the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on
> >> topic)
> >>
> >> I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on
> >> toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger than
> >> 3K
> >> lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays
> >> because
> >> of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical firewall
> >> mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp.
> >>
> >> I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical
> >> contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice provided
> >> thru ground of trailer frame
> >>
> >> I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost
> >> identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net search.
> >> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241
> >>
> >> Brian
> >
05-27-2006, 09:53 AM
#25
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Re: Maybe slightly OT. trailer winch wiring
To answer the diode question, no you don't need them if you can even
find ones that can handle the amps. When the trigger is off the relay
is an open circuit.
Winches pull a lot more power than you are thinking I think.
Mike
Bulletsnbrains wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> The relays are 30 amp. The winch is very small, I'm guessing 2500 maybe 3000
> lb capacity. I'll post a pic on Alt.Pictures.Binaries.Autos.4x4 in a few
> minutes.
>
> Brian
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44785124.8C61E9DA@sympatico.ca...
> >I do not believe the headlight relays are large enough to carry the
> > winch amp load.
> >
> > I stalled my winch once and smoked out the 4? ga. cables hot enough to
> > blow the heat shrink off them.
> >
> > The wiring is the same to just use solenoid relays instead, I would go
> > that route.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Bulletsnbrains wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok,
> >>
> >> Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch mounted
> >> on
> >> the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on
> >> topic)
> >>
> >> I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on
> >> toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger than
> >> 3K
> >> lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays
> >> because
> >> of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical firewall
> >> mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp.
> >>
> >> I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical
> >> contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice provided
> >> thru ground of trailer frame
> >>
> >> I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost
> >> identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net search.
> >> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241
> >>
> >> Brian
> >
find ones that can handle the amps. When the trigger is off the relay
is an open circuit.
Winches pull a lot more power than you are thinking I think.
Mike
Bulletsnbrains wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> The relays are 30 amp. The winch is very small, I'm guessing 2500 maybe 3000
> lb capacity. I'll post a pic on Alt.Pictures.Binaries.Autos.4x4 in a few
> minutes.
>
> Brian
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:44785124.8C61E9DA@sympatico.ca...
> >I do not believe the headlight relays are large enough to carry the
> > winch amp load.
> >
> > I stalled my winch once and smoked out the 4? ga. cables hot enough to
> > blow the heat shrink off them.
> >
> > The wiring is the same to just use solenoid relays instead, I would go
> > that route.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Bulletsnbrains wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok,
> >>
> >> Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch mounted
> >> on
> >> the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on
> >> topic)
> >>
> >> I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on
> >> toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger than
> >> 3K
> >> lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays
> >> because
> >> of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical firewall
> >> mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp.
> >>
> >> I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical
> >> contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice provided
> >> thru ground of trailer frame
> >>
> >> I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost
> >> identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net search.
> >> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241
> >>
> >> Brian
> >
05-27-2006, 09:55 AM
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Re: Maybe slightly OT. trailer winch wiring
Pics posted 8:50AM
"Bulletsnbrains" <bstrang@nopants.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:QCYdg.18354$fb2.2281@newssvr27.news.prodigy.n et...
> Mike,
>
> The relays are 30 amp. The winch is very small, I'm guessing 2500 maybe
> 3000 lb capacity. I'll post a pic on Alt.Pictures.Binaries.Autos.4x4 in a
> few minutes.
>
> Brian
>
"Bulletsnbrains" <bstrang@nopants.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:QCYdg.18354$fb2.2281@newssvr27.news.prodigy.n et...
> Mike,
>
> The relays are 30 amp. The winch is very small, I'm guessing 2500 maybe
> 3000 lb capacity. I'll post a pic on Alt.Pictures.Binaries.Autos.4x4 in a
> few minutes.
>
> Brian
>
05-27-2006, 09:55 AM
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Re: Maybe slightly OT. trailer winch wiring
Pics posted 8:50AM
"Bulletsnbrains" <bstrang@nopants.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:QCYdg.18354$fb2.2281@newssvr27.news.prodigy.n et...
> Mike,
>
> The relays are 30 amp. The winch is very small, I'm guessing 2500 maybe
> 3000 lb capacity. I'll post a pic on Alt.Pictures.Binaries.Autos.4x4 in a
> few minutes.
>
> Brian
>
"Bulletsnbrains" <bstrang@nopants.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:QCYdg.18354$fb2.2281@newssvr27.news.prodigy.n et...
> Mike,
>
> The relays are 30 amp. The winch is very small, I'm guessing 2500 maybe
> 3000 lb capacity. I'll post a pic on Alt.Pictures.Binaries.Autos.4x4 in a
> few minutes.
>
> Brian
>
05-27-2006, 09:55 AM
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Re: Maybe slightly OT. trailer winch wiring
Pics posted 8:50AM
"Bulletsnbrains" <bstrang@nopants.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:QCYdg.18354$fb2.2281@newssvr27.news.prodigy.n et...
> Mike,
>
> The relays are 30 amp. The winch is very small, I'm guessing 2500 maybe
> 3000 lb capacity. I'll post a pic on Alt.Pictures.Binaries.Autos.4x4 in a
> few minutes.
>
> Brian
>
"Bulletsnbrains" <bstrang@nopants.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:QCYdg.18354$fb2.2281@newssvr27.news.prodigy.n et...
> Mike,
>
> The relays are 30 amp. The winch is very small, I'm guessing 2500 maybe
> 3000 lb capacity. I'll post a pic on Alt.Pictures.Binaries.Autos.4x4 in a
> few minutes.
>
> Brian
>
05-27-2006, 10:46 AM
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Re: Maybe slightly OT. trailer winch wiring
Superwinch is a good brand to look up specs on: Their smallest (1000
pound rated) unit draws 92 amps at full load.
http://www.superwinch.com/pages/x/ex1.html
Power draw goes up (WAY UP!) from there, you have no idea what yours
will pull.
The last pic should work for your two wire unit. You shouldn't need any
diodes, this is all brute force low voltage power circuits. You are
going to fry your relays the first time you stall the winch, use Ford
(or Jeep!) starter relays. The starter relays are about the same price
as the ones you are looking at.
Bulletsnbrains wrote:
> Ok,
>
> Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch mounted on
> the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on topic)
>
> I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on
> toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger than 3K
> lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays because
> of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical firewall
> mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp.
>
> I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical
> contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice provided
> thru ground of trailer frame
>
> I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost
> identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net search.
> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241
>
> Brian
>
>
>
>
pound rated) unit draws 92 amps at full load.
http://www.superwinch.com/pages/x/ex1.html
Power draw goes up (WAY UP!) from there, you have no idea what yours
will pull.
The last pic should work for your two wire unit. You shouldn't need any
diodes, this is all brute force low voltage power circuits. You are
going to fry your relays the first time you stall the winch, use Ford
(or Jeep!) starter relays. The starter relays are about the same price
as the ones you are looking at.
Bulletsnbrains wrote:
> Ok,
>
> Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch mounted on
> the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on topic)
>
> I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on
> toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger than 3K
> lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays because
> of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical firewall
> mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp.
>
> I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical
> contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice provided
> thru ground of trailer frame
>
> I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost
> identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net search.
> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241
>
> Brian
>
>
>
>
05-27-2006, 10:46 AM
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Re: Maybe slightly OT. trailer winch wiring
Superwinch is a good brand to look up specs on: Their smallest (1000
pound rated) unit draws 92 amps at full load.
http://www.superwinch.com/pages/x/ex1.html
Power draw goes up (WAY UP!) from there, you have no idea what yours
will pull.
The last pic should work for your two wire unit. You shouldn't need any
diodes, this is all brute force low voltage power circuits. You are
going to fry your relays the first time you stall the winch, use Ford
(or Jeep!) starter relays. The starter relays are about the same price
as the ones you are looking at.
Bulletsnbrains wrote:
> Ok,
>
> Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch mounted on
> the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on topic)
>
> I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on
> toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger than 3K
> lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays because
> of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical firewall
> mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp.
>
> I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical
> contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice provided
> thru ground of trailer frame
>
> I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost
> identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net search.
> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241
>
> Brian
>
>
>
>
pound rated) unit draws 92 amps at full load.
http://www.superwinch.com/pages/x/ex1.html
Power draw goes up (WAY UP!) from there, you have no idea what yours
will pull.
The last pic should work for your two wire unit. You shouldn't need any
diodes, this is all brute force low voltage power circuits. You are
going to fry your relays the first time you stall the winch, use Ford
(or Jeep!) starter relays. The starter relays are about the same price
as the ones you are looking at.
Bulletsnbrains wrote:
> Ok,
>
> Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch mounted on
> the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on topic)
>
> I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on
> toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger than 3K
> lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays because
> of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical firewall
> mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp.
>
> I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical
> contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice provided
> thru ground of trailer frame
>
> I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost
> identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net search.
> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241
>
> Brian
>
>
>
>