Maybe slightly OT. trailer winch wiring
Ok,
Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch mounted on the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on topic) I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger than 3K lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays because of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical firewall mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp. I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice provided thru ground of trailer frame I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net search. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241 Brian |
Re: Maybe slightly OT. trailer winch wiring
If you are going to put the winch on the trailer, then you may want to put a
battery there too. Add the length of your tow vehicle, to the distance from the trailer tongue to the winch motor. That is how much big, fat jumper cable style wire you will need, if you don't. Make it a deep cycle motor home battery, connected to your tow vehicle charging system, with an isolation switch. The relay diagram looks as if it will work. Print three copies, and pencil in what happens, for each switch position. Earle "Bulletsnbrains" <bstrang@nopants.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:CFPdg.34323$4L1.34040@newssvr11.news.prodigy. com... > Ok, > > Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch mounted on > the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on topic) > > I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on > toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger than 3K > lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays because > of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical firewall > mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp. > > I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical > contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice provided > thru ground of trailer frame > > I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost > identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net search. > http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241 > > Brian > > > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** |
Re: Maybe slightly OT. trailer winch wiring
If you are going to put the winch on the trailer, then you may want to put a
battery there too. Add the length of your tow vehicle, to the distance from the trailer tongue to the winch motor. That is how much big, fat jumper cable style wire you will need, if you don't. Make it a deep cycle motor home battery, connected to your tow vehicle charging system, with an isolation switch. The relay diagram looks as if it will work. Print three copies, and pencil in what happens, for each switch position. Earle "Bulletsnbrains" <bstrang@nopants.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:CFPdg.34323$4L1.34040@newssvr11.news.prodigy. com... > Ok, > > Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch mounted on > the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on topic) > > I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on > toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger than 3K > lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays because > of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical firewall > mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp. > > I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical > contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice provided > thru ground of trailer frame > > I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost > identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net search. > http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241 > > Brian > > > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** |
Re: Maybe slightly OT. trailer winch wiring
If you are going to put the winch on the trailer, then you may want to put a
battery there too. Add the length of your tow vehicle, to the distance from the trailer tongue to the winch motor. That is how much big, fat jumper cable style wire you will need, if you don't. Make it a deep cycle motor home battery, connected to your tow vehicle charging system, with an isolation switch. The relay diagram looks as if it will work. Print three copies, and pencil in what happens, for each switch position. Earle "Bulletsnbrains" <bstrang@nopants.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:CFPdg.34323$4L1.34040@newssvr11.news.prodigy. com... > Ok, > > Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch mounted on > the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on topic) > > I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on > toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger than 3K > lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays because > of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical firewall > mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp. > > I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical > contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice provided > thru ground of trailer frame > > I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost > identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net search. > http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241 > > Brian > > > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** |
Re: Maybe slightly OT. trailer winch wiring
Hi Earle,
I forgot to mention that a battery box is within a foot of the winch. I was guessing 8 gauge, maybe 10 gauge wire from relays to motor and battery to relays. If I knew more about this winch, I wouldn't need to guess the amperage pull off the battery. Brian "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message news:4477c0ab$0$24229$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > If you are going to put the winch on the trailer, then you may want to put > a > battery there too. Add the length of your tow vehicle, to the distance > from > the trailer tongue to the winch motor. That is how much big, fat jumper > cable style wire you will need, if you don't. Make it a deep cycle motor > home battery, connected to your tow vehicle charging system, with an > isolation switch. > > The relay diagram looks as if it will work. Print three copies, and > pencil > in what happens, for each switch position. > > Earle > > "Bulletsnbrains" <bstrang@nopants.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > news:CFPdg.34323$4L1.34040@newssvr11.news.prodigy. com... >> Ok, >> >> Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch mounted > on >> the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on >> topic) >> >> I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on >> toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger than > 3K >> lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays >> because >> of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical firewall >> mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp. >> >> I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical >> contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice provided >> thru ground of trailer frame >> >> I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost >> identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net search. >> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241 >> >> Brian >> >> >> >> > > > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** |
Re: Maybe slightly OT. trailer winch wiring
Hi Earle,
I forgot to mention that a battery box is within a foot of the winch. I was guessing 8 gauge, maybe 10 gauge wire from relays to motor and battery to relays. If I knew more about this winch, I wouldn't need to guess the amperage pull off the battery. Brian "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message news:4477c0ab$0$24229$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > If you are going to put the winch on the trailer, then you may want to put > a > battery there too. Add the length of your tow vehicle, to the distance > from > the trailer tongue to the winch motor. That is how much big, fat jumper > cable style wire you will need, if you don't. Make it a deep cycle motor > home battery, connected to your tow vehicle charging system, with an > isolation switch. > > The relay diagram looks as if it will work. Print three copies, and > pencil > in what happens, for each switch position. > > Earle > > "Bulletsnbrains" <bstrang@nopants.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > news:CFPdg.34323$4L1.34040@newssvr11.news.prodigy. com... >> Ok, >> >> Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch mounted > on >> the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on >> topic) >> >> I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on >> toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger than > 3K >> lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays >> because >> of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical firewall >> mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp. >> >> I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical >> contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice provided >> thru ground of trailer frame >> >> I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost >> identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net search. >> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241 >> >> Brian >> >> >> >> > > > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** |
Re: Maybe slightly OT. trailer winch wiring
Hi Earle,
I forgot to mention that a battery box is within a foot of the winch. I was guessing 8 gauge, maybe 10 gauge wire from relays to motor and battery to relays. If I knew more about this winch, I wouldn't need to guess the amperage pull off the battery. Brian "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message news:4477c0ab$0$24229$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > If you are going to put the winch on the trailer, then you may want to put > a > battery there too. Add the length of your tow vehicle, to the distance > from > the trailer tongue to the winch motor. That is how much big, fat jumper > cable style wire you will need, if you don't. Make it a deep cycle motor > home battery, connected to your tow vehicle charging system, with an > isolation switch. > > The relay diagram looks as if it will work. Print three copies, and > pencil > in what happens, for each switch position. > > Earle > > "Bulletsnbrains" <bstrang@nopants.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > news:CFPdg.34323$4L1.34040@newssvr11.news.prodigy. com... >> Ok, >> >> Here goes.... I am trying to wire an old "unknown" electric winch mounted > on >> the trailer that will be used to haul Jeeps.( there's the slight on >> topic) >> >> I have the idea that it will have a 25' remote with momentary on-off-on >> toggle, and 4 relays. because the winch couldn't possibly be larger than > 3K >> lb. The question I would have is it nescessary to diode the relays >> because >> of the fact i'm not using solenoids? The relays are the typical firewall >> mount with the terminals 30/51, 85, 86, 87 connections rated at 30amp. >> >> I verified that the winch motor terminals(2) are the only electrical >> contacts. Reverse polarity and reverse motor rotation. No juice provided >> thru ground of trailer frame >> >> I found this link to some wiring diagrams and the last one is almost >> identical to the one I had thought out and drawn before my I'net search. >> http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=401241 >> >> Brian >> >> >> >> > > > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** |
Re: Maybe slightly OT. trailer winch wiring
Bulletsnbrains did pass the time by typing:
> Hi Earle, > > I forgot to mention that a battery box is within a foot of the winch. I was > guessing 8 gauge, maybe 10 gauge wire from relays to motor and battery to > relays. If I knew more about this winch, I wouldn't need to guess the > amperage pull off the battery. 12V Amps Watts 3' 5' 7' 10' 15' 20' 25' 50 300 16 14 12 12 10 10 8 100 600 12 12 10 10 6 6 4 150 900 10 10 8 8 4 4 2 200 1200 10 8 8 6 4 4 2 -- DougW |
Re: Maybe slightly OT. trailer winch wiring
Bulletsnbrains did pass the time by typing:
> Hi Earle, > > I forgot to mention that a battery box is within a foot of the winch. I was > guessing 8 gauge, maybe 10 gauge wire from relays to motor and battery to > relays. If I knew more about this winch, I wouldn't need to guess the > amperage pull off the battery. 12V Amps Watts 3' 5' 7' 10' 15' 20' 25' 50 300 16 14 12 12 10 10 8 100 600 12 12 10 10 6 6 4 150 900 10 10 8 8 4 4 2 200 1200 10 8 8 6 4 4 2 -- DougW |
Re: Maybe slightly OT. trailer winch wiring
Bulletsnbrains did pass the time by typing:
> Hi Earle, > > I forgot to mention that a battery box is within a foot of the winch. I was > guessing 8 gauge, maybe 10 gauge wire from relays to motor and battery to > relays. If I knew more about this winch, I wouldn't need to guess the > amperage pull off the battery. 12V Amps Watts 3' 5' 7' 10' 15' 20' 25' 50 300 16 14 12 12 10 10 8 100 600 12 12 10 10 6 6 4 150 900 10 10 8 8 4 4 2 200 1200 10 8 8 6 4 4 2 -- DougW |
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