Locker abuse
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Re: Locker abuse
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"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> So.... Your axle tube, everyone else would calls a spindle?
> http://www.----------.com/72jeepSpindle.jpg
> And where did the Original Poster write of "circle clip"?
> "From: "TrailMarker" <carrollcaboodle@netzero.com> Tue 3:47 PM
> Subject: Locker abuse
>
> Well, I've had my front ARB a few weeks now. Yesterday, I actually
> needed it for the first time. I was climbing a steep rock hill. And so,
> naturally, I just busted my first front axle U-joint. I bought a H-D
> replacement - but hopefully this won't make some more expensive part
> the weak link.
> I'm looking for advice on the replacement job. This is for an '85 CJ-7
> Dana 30 - passenger's side. Are there any gotcha's out there? Does
> anyone know any special tricks that would help me out? Do I also need
> to replace any seals or gaskets while I'm at it? One thing that has me
> worried is the metal "ring" at the outer end of the axle tube. I guess
> it's just a pressed in seal or guide. It's been knocked loose by the
> wobbling axle shaft. Does it press in place? Is it just a splash seal?
> I don't see this part on the exploded views in the books or catalogs I
> have.
> I did a Google search and found a couple of posts by Jeff Strickland
> that make the job sound pretty straight forward.
> He says
>
> "Remove the hub locks.
> Remove the brake rotors.
> Remove the large spindle nuts from inside the spindles and pull the
> hubs off.
> Remove 6 nuts holding the dust shield on and remove the shield.
> Use a large rubber mallet, or a board and a hammer to nudge the
> spindles off.
> Slide the axle shafts out and replace the UJoints.
> Assemble in reverse order.
> Torque the inner spindle nut to 80 pounds and spin the tire around
> several times and re-torque. Repeat until you are confident the
> spindles are tight.
> Torque the outer spindle nut to 50 pounds. DON'T FORGET the washer
> between these two nuts, and DON'T FORGET to bend one side over so it
> will hold the outside spindle nut.; This washer is really a cleverly
> disguised locking device; use it.
> Torque the dust shield nuts to 50 pounds."
>
> Is there anything else I need to know?
> And yes, I still made it up the rock face, and back out through some
> right slick and tricky stuff in 3-wheel drive.
> TrailMarker."
>
> --
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > You are more full of ---- than a Christmas Turkey. A hub is a hub, and
it is
> > not the axle tube.
> >
> > The hub has two bearings inside, and the inner bearing also has a grease
> > seal adjacent to it. This has nothing at all to do with the axle shaft,
> > except that the axle shaft causes the hub to turn if the hub lock is
engaged
> > and 4WD is selected on the tcase. Otherwise, the hubs turn because the
> > ground is going by.
> >
> > The OP was not very clear on what he was talking about when he wondered
> > about the ring on the end of something. I took a wild guess that he was
> > talking about the snap ring (which I called a circlip) on the end of the
> > axle shaft where the locking hubs engage. There is also a ring that is
> > inside the hub. This ring is really a seal, but if the rubber was gone
from
> > the seal, a ring would be left.
> >
> > What I was wondering about is, where in Hell did you come up with an
analogy
> > about thatever is inside a YJ hub and axle? The topic is clearly an '85
CJ7.
> > In the case of the CJ, the hub is also the brake rotor, but I was trying
> > really hard to not confuse you with that much detail.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:429F6F01.8A70D835@***.net...
> So.... Your axle tube, everyone else would calls a spindle?
> http://www.----------.com/72jeepSpindle.jpg
> And where did the Original Poster write of "circle clip"?
> "From: "TrailMarker" <carrollcaboodle@netzero.com> Tue 3:47 PM
> Subject: Locker abuse
>
> Well, I've had my front ARB a few weeks now. Yesterday, I actually
> needed it for the first time. I was climbing a steep rock hill. And so,
> naturally, I just busted my first front axle U-joint. I bought a H-D
> replacement - but hopefully this won't make some more expensive part
> the weak link.
> I'm looking for advice on the replacement job. This is for an '85 CJ-7
> Dana 30 - passenger's side. Are there any gotcha's out there? Does
> anyone know any special tricks that would help me out? Do I also need
> to replace any seals or gaskets while I'm at it? One thing that has me
> worried is the metal "ring" at the outer end of the axle tube. I guess
> it's just a pressed in seal or guide. It's been knocked loose by the
> wobbling axle shaft. Does it press in place? Is it just a splash seal?
> I don't see this part on the exploded views in the books or catalogs I
> have.
> I did a Google search and found a couple of posts by Jeff Strickland
> that make the job sound pretty straight forward.
> He says
>
> "Remove the hub locks.
> Remove the brake rotors.
> Remove the large spindle nuts from inside the spindles and pull the
> hubs off.
> Remove 6 nuts holding the dust shield on and remove the shield.
> Use a large rubber mallet, or a board and a hammer to nudge the
> spindles off.
> Slide the axle shafts out and replace the UJoints.
> Assemble in reverse order.
> Torque the inner spindle nut to 80 pounds and spin the tire around
> several times and re-torque. Repeat until you are confident the
> spindles are tight.
> Torque the outer spindle nut to 50 pounds. DON'T FORGET the washer
> between these two nuts, and DON'T FORGET to bend one side over so it
> will hold the outside spindle nut.; This washer is really a cleverly
> disguised locking device; use it.
> Torque the dust shield nuts to 50 pounds."
>
> Is there anything else I need to know?
> And yes, I still made it up the rock face, and back out through some
> right slick and tricky stuff in 3-wheel drive.
> TrailMarker."
>
> --
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > You are more full of ---- than a Christmas Turkey. A hub is a hub, and
it is
> > not the axle tube.
> >
> > The hub has two bearings inside, and the inner bearing also has a grease
> > seal adjacent to it. This has nothing at all to do with the axle shaft,
> > except that the axle shaft causes the hub to turn if the hub lock is
engaged
> > and 4WD is selected on the tcase. Otherwise, the hubs turn because the
> > ground is going by.
> >
> > The OP was not very clear on what he was talking about when he wondered
> > about the ring on the end of something. I took a wild guess that he was
> > talking about the snap ring (which I called a circlip) on the end of the
> > axle shaft where the locking hubs engage. There is also a ring that is
> > inside the hub. This ring is really a seal, but if the rubber was gone
from
> > the seal, a ring would be left.
> >
> > What I was wondering about is, where in Hell did you come up with an
analogy
> > about thatever is inside a YJ hub and axle? The topic is clearly an '85
CJ7.
> > In the case of the CJ, the hub is also the brake rotor, but I was trying
> > really hard to not confuse you with that much detail.
#132
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Re: Locker abuse
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"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:429F6F01.8A70D835@***.net...
> So.... Your axle tube, everyone else would calls a spindle?
> http://www.----------.com/72jeepSpindle.jpg
> And where did the Original Poster write of "circle clip"?
> "From: "TrailMarker" <carrollcaboodle@netzero.com> Tue 3:47 PM
> Subject: Locker abuse
>
> Well, I've had my front ARB a few weeks now. Yesterday, I actually
> needed it for the first time. I was climbing a steep rock hill. And so,
> naturally, I just busted my first front axle U-joint. I bought a H-D
> replacement - but hopefully this won't make some more expensive part
> the weak link.
> I'm looking for advice on the replacement job. This is for an '85 CJ-7
> Dana 30 - passenger's side. Are there any gotcha's out there? Does
> anyone know any special tricks that would help me out? Do I also need
> to replace any seals or gaskets while I'm at it? One thing that has me
> worried is the metal "ring" at the outer end of the axle tube. I guess
> it's just a pressed in seal or guide. It's been knocked loose by the
> wobbling axle shaft. Does it press in place? Is it just a splash seal?
> I don't see this part on the exploded views in the books or catalogs I
> have.
> I did a Google search and found a couple of posts by Jeff Strickland
> that make the job sound pretty straight forward.
> He says
>
> "Remove the hub locks.
> Remove the brake rotors.
> Remove the large spindle nuts from inside the spindles and pull the
> hubs off.
> Remove 6 nuts holding the dust shield on and remove the shield.
> Use a large rubber mallet, or a board and a hammer to nudge the
> spindles off.
> Slide the axle shafts out and replace the UJoints.
> Assemble in reverse order.
> Torque the inner spindle nut to 80 pounds and spin the tire around
> several times and re-torque. Repeat until you are confident the
> spindles are tight.
> Torque the outer spindle nut to 50 pounds. DON'T FORGET the washer
> between these two nuts, and DON'T FORGET to bend one side over so it
> will hold the outside spindle nut.; This washer is really a cleverly
> disguised locking device; use it.
> Torque the dust shield nuts to 50 pounds."
>
> Is there anything else I need to know?
> And yes, I still made it up the rock face, and back out through some
> right slick and tricky stuff in 3-wheel drive.
> TrailMarker."
>
> --
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > You are more full of ---- than a Christmas Turkey. A hub is a hub, and
it is
> > not the axle tube.
> >
> > The hub has two bearings inside, and the inner bearing also has a grease
> > seal adjacent to it. This has nothing at all to do with the axle shaft,
> > except that the axle shaft causes the hub to turn if the hub lock is
engaged
> > and 4WD is selected on the tcase. Otherwise, the hubs turn because the
> > ground is going by.
> >
> > The OP was not very clear on what he was talking about when he wondered
> > about the ring on the end of something. I took a wild guess that he was
> > talking about the snap ring (which I called a circlip) on the end of the
> > axle shaft where the locking hubs engage. There is also a ring that is
> > inside the hub. This ring is really a seal, but if the rubber was gone
from
> > the seal, a ring would be left.
> >
> > What I was wondering about is, where in Hell did you come up with an
analogy
> > about thatever is inside a YJ hub and axle? The topic is clearly an '85
CJ7.
> > In the case of the CJ, the hub is also the brake rotor, but I was trying
> > really hard to not confuse you with that much detail.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:429F6F01.8A70D835@***.net...
> So.... Your axle tube, everyone else would calls a spindle?
> http://www.----------.com/72jeepSpindle.jpg
> And where did the Original Poster write of "circle clip"?
> "From: "TrailMarker" <carrollcaboodle@netzero.com> Tue 3:47 PM
> Subject: Locker abuse
>
> Well, I've had my front ARB a few weeks now. Yesterday, I actually
> needed it for the first time. I was climbing a steep rock hill. And so,
> naturally, I just busted my first front axle U-joint. I bought a H-D
> replacement - but hopefully this won't make some more expensive part
> the weak link.
> I'm looking for advice on the replacement job. This is for an '85 CJ-7
> Dana 30 - passenger's side. Are there any gotcha's out there? Does
> anyone know any special tricks that would help me out? Do I also need
> to replace any seals or gaskets while I'm at it? One thing that has me
> worried is the metal "ring" at the outer end of the axle tube. I guess
> it's just a pressed in seal or guide. It's been knocked loose by the
> wobbling axle shaft. Does it press in place? Is it just a splash seal?
> I don't see this part on the exploded views in the books or catalogs I
> have.
> I did a Google search and found a couple of posts by Jeff Strickland
> that make the job sound pretty straight forward.
> He says
>
> "Remove the hub locks.
> Remove the brake rotors.
> Remove the large spindle nuts from inside the spindles and pull the
> hubs off.
> Remove 6 nuts holding the dust shield on and remove the shield.
> Use a large rubber mallet, or a board and a hammer to nudge the
> spindles off.
> Slide the axle shafts out and replace the UJoints.
> Assemble in reverse order.
> Torque the inner spindle nut to 80 pounds and spin the tire around
> several times and re-torque. Repeat until you are confident the
> spindles are tight.
> Torque the outer spindle nut to 50 pounds. DON'T FORGET the washer
> between these two nuts, and DON'T FORGET to bend one side over so it
> will hold the outside spindle nut.; This washer is really a cleverly
> disguised locking device; use it.
> Torque the dust shield nuts to 50 pounds."
>
> Is there anything else I need to know?
> And yes, I still made it up the rock face, and back out through some
> right slick and tricky stuff in 3-wheel drive.
> TrailMarker."
>
> --
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > You are more full of ---- than a Christmas Turkey. A hub is a hub, and
it is
> > not the axle tube.
> >
> > The hub has two bearings inside, and the inner bearing also has a grease
> > seal adjacent to it. This has nothing at all to do with the axle shaft,
> > except that the axle shaft causes the hub to turn if the hub lock is
engaged
> > and 4WD is selected on the tcase. Otherwise, the hubs turn because the
> > ground is going by.
> >
> > The OP was not very clear on what he was talking about when he wondered
> > about the ring on the end of something. I took a wild guess that he was
> > talking about the snap ring (which I called a circlip) on the end of the
> > axle shaft where the locking hubs engage. There is also a ring that is
> > inside the hub. This ring is really a seal, but if the rubber was gone
from
> > the seal, a ring would be left.
> >
> > What I was wondering about is, where in Hell did you come up with an
analogy
> > about thatever is inside a YJ hub and axle? The topic is clearly an '85
CJ7.
> > In the case of the CJ, the hub is also the brake rotor, but I was trying
> > really hard to not confuse you with that much detail.
#133
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Re: Locker abuse
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"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:429F6F01.8A70D835@***.net...
> So.... Your axle tube, everyone else would calls a spindle?
> http://www.----------.com/72jeepSpindle.jpg
> And where did the Original Poster write of "circle clip"?
> "From: "TrailMarker" <carrollcaboodle@netzero.com> Tue 3:47 PM
> Subject: Locker abuse
>
> Well, I've had my front ARB a few weeks now. Yesterday, I actually
> needed it for the first time. I was climbing a steep rock hill. And so,
> naturally, I just busted my first front axle U-joint. I bought a H-D
> replacement - but hopefully this won't make some more expensive part
> the weak link.
> I'm looking for advice on the replacement job. This is for an '85 CJ-7
> Dana 30 - passenger's side. Are there any gotcha's out there? Does
> anyone know any special tricks that would help me out? Do I also need
> to replace any seals or gaskets while I'm at it? One thing that has me
> worried is the metal "ring" at the outer end of the axle tube. I guess
> it's just a pressed in seal or guide. It's been knocked loose by the
> wobbling axle shaft. Does it press in place? Is it just a splash seal?
> I don't see this part on the exploded views in the books or catalogs I
> have.
> I did a Google search and found a couple of posts by Jeff Strickland
> that make the job sound pretty straight forward.
> He says
>
> "Remove the hub locks.
> Remove the brake rotors.
> Remove the large spindle nuts from inside the spindles and pull the
> hubs off.
> Remove 6 nuts holding the dust shield on and remove the shield.
> Use a large rubber mallet, or a board and a hammer to nudge the
> spindles off.
> Slide the axle shafts out and replace the UJoints.
> Assemble in reverse order.
> Torque the inner spindle nut to 80 pounds and spin the tire around
> several times and re-torque. Repeat until you are confident the
> spindles are tight.
> Torque the outer spindle nut to 50 pounds. DON'T FORGET the washer
> between these two nuts, and DON'T FORGET to bend one side over so it
> will hold the outside spindle nut.; This washer is really a cleverly
> disguised locking device; use it.
> Torque the dust shield nuts to 50 pounds."
>
> Is there anything else I need to know?
> And yes, I still made it up the rock face, and back out through some
> right slick and tricky stuff in 3-wheel drive.
> TrailMarker."
>
> --
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > You are more full of ---- than a Christmas Turkey. A hub is a hub, and
it is
> > not the axle tube.
> >
> > The hub has two bearings inside, and the inner bearing also has a grease
> > seal adjacent to it. This has nothing at all to do with the axle shaft,
> > except that the axle shaft causes the hub to turn if the hub lock is
engaged
> > and 4WD is selected on the tcase. Otherwise, the hubs turn because the
> > ground is going by.
> >
> > The OP was not very clear on what he was talking about when he wondered
> > about the ring on the end of something. I took a wild guess that he was
> > talking about the snap ring (which I called a circlip) on the end of the
> > axle shaft where the locking hubs engage. There is also a ring that is
> > inside the hub. This ring is really a seal, but if the rubber was gone
from
> > the seal, a ring would be left.
> >
> > What I was wondering about is, where in Hell did you come up with an
analogy
> > about thatever is inside a YJ hub and axle? The topic is clearly an '85
CJ7.
> > In the case of the CJ, the hub is also the brake rotor, but I was trying
> > really hard to not confuse you with that much detail.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:429F6F01.8A70D835@***.net...
> So.... Your axle tube, everyone else would calls a spindle?
> http://www.----------.com/72jeepSpindle.jpg
> And where did the Original Poster write of "circle clip"?
> "From: "TrailMarker" <carrollcaboodle@netzero.com> Tue 3:47 PM
> Subject: Locker abuse
>
> Well, I've had my front ARB a few weeks now. Yesterday, I actually
> needed it for the first time. I was climbing a steep rock hill. And so,
> naturally, I just busted my first front axle U-joint. I bought a H-D
> replacement - but hopefully this won't make some more expensive part
> the weak link.
> I'm looking for advice on the replacement job. This is for an '85 CJ-7
> Dana 30 - passenger's side. Are there any gotcha's out there? Does
> anyone know any special tricks that would help me out? Do I also need
> to replace any seals or gaskets while I'm at it? One thing that has me
> worried is the metal "ring" at the outer end of the axle tube. I guess
> it's just a pressed in seal or guide. It's been knocked loose by the
> wobbling axle shaft. Does it press in place? Is it just a splash seal?
> I don't see this part on the exploded views in the books or catalogs I
> have.
> I did a Google search and found a couple of posts by Jeff Strickland
> that make the job sound pretty straight forward.
> He says
>
> "Remove the hub locks.
> Remove the brake rotors.
> Remove the large spindle nuts from inside the spindles and pull the
> hubs off.
> Remove 6 nuts holding the dust shield on and remove the shield.
> Use a large rubber mallet, or a board and a hammer to nudge the
> spindles off.
> Slide the axle shafts out and replace the UJoints.
> Assemble in reverse order.
> Torque the inner spindle nut to 80 pounds and spin the tire around
> several times and re-torque. Repeat until you are confident the
> spindles are tight.
> Torque the outer spindle nut to 50 pounds. DON'T FORGET the washer
> between these two nuts, and DON'T FORGET to bend one side over so it
> will hold the outside spindle nut.; This washer is really a cleverly
> disguised locking device; use it.
> Torque the dust shield nuts to 50 pounds."
>
> Is there anything else I need to know?
> And yes, I still made it up the rock face, and back out through some
> right slick and tricky stuff in 3-wheel drive.
> TrailMarker."
>
> --
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > You are more full of ---- than a Christmas Turkey. A hub is a hub, and
it is
> > not the axle tube.
> >
> > The hub has two bearings inside, and the inner bearing also has a grease
> > seal adjacent to it. This has nothing at all to do with the axle shaft,
> > except that the axle shaft causes the hub to turn if the hub lock is
engaged
> > and 4WD is selected on the tcase. Otherwise, the hubs turn because the
> > ground is going by.
> >
> > The OP was not very clear on what he was talking about when he wondered
> > about the ring on the end of something. I took a wild guess that he was
> > talking about the snap ring (which I called a circlip) on the end of the
> > axle shaft where the locking hubs engage. There is also a ring that is
> > inside the hub. This ring is really a seal, but if the rubber was gone
from
> > the seal, a ring would be left.
> >
> > What I was wondering about is, where in Hell did you come up with an
analogy
> > about thatever is inside a YJ hub and axle? The topic is clearly an '85
CJ7.
> > In the case of the CJ, the hub is also the brake rotor, but I was trying
> > really hard to not confuse you with that much detail.
#134
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Re: Locker abuse
TrailMarker,
Here is a direct quote (OR CLOSE) from JP magazine June 2005 issue page 48
on differential basics.
Q: Can a locker break my Jeep?
A: Mr.Reider walks us through it....the greatest torque that can be applied
to either wheel with an open diff would be 50% of total power sent to the
axle. This is because the spider geas split the torque 50/50., and if one
wheel loses traction, then power is lost to the loose wheel and the wheel
with traction receives less than 50%. When a locker is installed, no power
is lost to the loose wheel, it has to rotate at the same speed as the wheel
with traction, and up to 100% of the power can now be directed to the wheel
with traction. That can be twice the power the jeep and its components
were originally designed for. Meaning the axleshafts or u joints may no
tbe strong enough. Upgrade accordingly.
That sounds like what you are doing. Just thought you might find that info
interesting.
--
Robb
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Here is a direct quote (OR CLOSE) from JP magazine June 2005 issue page 48
on differential basics.
Q: Can a locker break my Jeep?
A: Mr.Reider walks us through it....the greatest torque that can be applied
to either wheel with an open diff would be 50% of total power sent to the
axle. This is because the spider geas split the torque 50/50., and if one
wheel loses traction, then power is lost to the loose wheel and the wheel
with traction receives less than 50%. When a locker is installed, no power
is lost to the loose wheel, it has to rotate at the same speed as the wheel
with traction, and up to 100% of the power can now be directed to the wheel
with traction. That can be twice the power the jeep and its components
were originally designed for. Meaning the axleshafts or u joints may no
tbe strong enough. Upgrade accordingly.
That sounds like what you are doing. Just thought you might find that info
interesting.
--
Robb
Message posted via CarKB.com
http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200506/1
#135
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Re: Locker abuse
TrailMarker,
Here is a direct quote (OR CLOSE) from JP magazine June 2005 issue page 48
on differential basics.
Q: Can a locker break my Jeep?
A: Mr.Reider walks us through it....the greatest torque that can be applied
to either wheel with an open diff would be 50% of total power sent to the
axle. This is because the spider geas split the torque 50/50., and if one
wheel loses traction, then power is lost to the loose wheel and the wheel
with traction receives less than 50%. When a locker is installed, no power
is lost to the loose wheel, it has to rotate at the same speed as the wheel
with traction, and up to 100% of the power can now be directed to the wheel
with traction. That can be twice the power the jeep and its components
were originally designed for. Meaning the axleshafts or u joints may no
tbe strong enough. Upgrade accordingly.
That sounds like what you are doing. Just thought you might find that info
interesting.
--
Robb
Message posted via CarKB.com
http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200506/1
Here is a direct quote (OR CLOSE) from JP magazine June 2005 issue page 48
on differential basics.
Q: Can a locker break my Jeep?
A: Mr.Reider walks us through it....the greatest torque that can be applied
to either wheel with an open diff would be 50% of total power sent to the
axle. This is because the spider geas split the torque 50/50., and if one
wheel loses traction, then power is lost to the loose wheel and the wheel
with traction receives less than 50%. When a locker is installed, no power
is lost to the loose wheel, it has to rotate at the same speed as the wheel
with traction, and up to 100% of the power can now be directed to the wheel
with traction. That can be twice the power the jeep and its components
were originally designed for. Meaning the axleshafts or u joints may no
tbe strong enough. Upgrade accordingly.
That sounds like what you are doing. Just thought you might find that info
interesting.
--
Robb
Message posted via CarKB.com
http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200506/1
#136
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Posts: n/a
Re: Locker abuse
TrailMarker,
Here is a direct quote (OR CLOSE) from JP magazine June 2005 issue page 48
on differential basics.
Q: Can a locker break my Jeep?
A: Mr.Reider walks us through it....the greatest torque that can be applied
to either wheel with an open diff would be 50% of total power sent to the
axle. This is because the spider geas split the torque 50/50., and if one
wheel loses traction, then power is lost to the loose wheel and the wheel
with traction receives less than 50%. When a locker is installed, no power
is lost to the loose wheel, it has to rotate at the same speed as the wheel
with traction, and up to 100% of the power can now be directed to the wheel
with traction. That can be twice the power the jeep and its components
were originally designed for. Meaning the axleshafts or u joints may no
tbe strong enough. Upgrade accordingly.
That sounds like what you are doing. Just thought you might find that info
interesting.
--
Robb
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Here is a direct quote (OR CLOSE) from JP magazine June 2005 issue page 48
on differential basics.
Q: Can a locker break my Jeep?
A: Mr.Reider walks us through it....the greatest torque that can be applied
to either wheel with an open diff would be 50% of total power sent to the
axle. This is because the spider geas split the torque 50/50., and if one
wheel loses traction, then power is lost to the loose wheel and the wheel
with traction receives less than 50%. When a locker is installed, no power
is lost to the loose wheel, it has to rotate at the same speed as the wheel
with traction, and up to 100% of the power can now be directed to the wheel
with traction. That can be twice the power the jeep and its components
were originally designed for. Meaning the axleshafts or u joints may no
tbe strong enough. Upgrade accordingly.
That sounds like what you are doing. Just thought you might find that info
interesting.
--
Robb
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Re: Locker abuse
TrailMarker,
Here is a direct quote (OR CLOSE) from JP magazine June 2005 issue page 48
on differential basics.
Q: Can a locker break my Jeep?
A: Mr.Reider walks us through it....the greatest torque that can be applied
to either wheel with an open diff would be 50% of total power sent to the
axle. This is because the spider geas split the torque 50/50., and if one
wheel loses traction, then power is lost to the loose wheel and the wheel
with traction receives less than 50%. When a locker is installed, no power
is lost to the loose wheel, it has to rotate at the same speed as the wheel
with traction, and up to 100% of the power can now be directed to the wheel
with traction. That can be twice the power the jeep and its components
were originally designed for. Meaning the axleshafts or u joints may no
tbe strong enough. Upgrade accordingly.
That sounds like what you are doing. Just thought you might find that info
interesting.
--
Robb
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http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/jeep-cars/200506/1
Here is a direct quote (OR CLOSE) from JP magazine June 2005 issue page 48
on differential basics.
Q: Can a locker break my Jeep?
A: Mr.Reider walks us through it....the greatest torque that can be applied
to either wheel with an open diff would be 50% of total power sent to the
axle. This is because the spider geas split the torque 50/50., and if one
wheel loses traction, then power is lost to the loose wheel and the wheel
with traction receives less than 50%. When a locker is installed, no power
is lost to the loose wheel, it has to rotate at the same speed as the wheel
with traction, and up to 100% of the power can now be directed to the wheel
with traction. That can be twice the power the jeep and its components
were originally designed for. Meaning the axleshafts or u joints may no
tbe strong enough. Upgrade accordingly.
That sounds like what you are doing. Just thought you might find that info
interesting.
--
Robb
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Re: Locker abuse
one difference I believe though, is that the stock Jeep is a limited slip,
but I'm not sure..
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but I'm not sure..
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Robb
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#139
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Re: Locker abuse
one difference I believe though, is that the stock Jeep is a limited slip,
but I'm not sure..
--
Robb
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but I'm not sure..
--
Robb
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Re: Locker abuse
one difference I believe though, is that the stock Jeep is a limited slip,
but I'm not sure..
--
Robb
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but I'm not sure..
--
Robb
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