Jeep Toad
#321
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Re: Jeep Toad
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> You wrote: "a lack of air will result in total brakes."
Yep I sure did... and here's what YOUR OWN LINK SAYS ABOUT THE SAME SUBJECT:
"if the system loses its pressure, the de-application pressure is also
lost, and the parking brakes will come on as the pressure decreases -
providing an "automatic" setting of the parking brakes if system
pressure is lost on the road."
So there you go Bill thanks for proving what I said with your link... a
lack of air means your brakes lock up. Man are you _TRYING_ to look
clueless?
HEY lets do this some more... I'm enjoying embarrassing the biggest
------- on this group so here's some more point for point:
Your link:
"Of major importance is the difference between air and the "normal"
hydraulic brakes with which all are familiar - the air brake pedal is
not a Pump, as with hydraulic brakes, but rather a Valve."
Which is a fancy way of saying the same thing I said:
"Because air brake systems works backwards from how we are used to
brakes working...
The default state on a semi's brake system is LOCKED UP... Unlike
hydrolic systems where a lack of fluid will result in NO BRAKES, a lack
of air will result in total brakes."
Man your link is doing a great Job of making you look ignorant!
Link:
"Thus, the spring brakes (sometimes referred to as "Maxis," or
maxi-brakes) are always on, unless the spring is "caged" by the second
additional air chamber, "piggy-backed" onto the one already there for
the regular service brakes. To de-apply the parking brakes, the system
must first be brought up to pressure"
And I wrote (simplified of course):
"This is because air is used to push against the heavy springs that are
ALWAYS trying to push the brake shoes against the drums."
Good grief Bill, you are horrible at this... I'm starting to feel like
I'm beating up on a cripple, so if you want the last word(s) go for it,
make up some outlandish accusation, link to some semi-relevant page that
does a good job of contradicting you, and accuse me of being something
you have no idea about... have fun...
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
> You wrote: "a lack of air will result in total brakes."
Yep I sure did... and here's what YOUR OWN LINK SAYS ABOUT THE SAME SUBJECT:
"if the system loses its pressure, the de-application pressure is also
lost, and the parking brakes will come on as the pressure decreases -
providing an "automatic" setting of the parking brakes if system
pressure is lost on the road."
So there you go Bill thanks for proving what I said with your link... a
lack of air means your brakes lock up. Man are you _TRYING_ to look
clueless?
HEY lets do this some more... I'm enjoying embarrassing the biggest
------- on this group so here's some more point for point:
Your link:
"Of major importance is the difference between air and the "normal"
hydraulic brakes with which all are familiar - the air brake pedal is
not a Pump, as with hydraulic brakes, but rather a Valve."
Which is a fancy way of saying the same thing I said:
"Because air brake systems works backwards from how we are used to
brakes working...
The default state on a semi's brake system is LOCKED UP... Unlike
hydrolic systems where a lack of fluid will result in NO BRAKES, a lack
of air will result in total brakes."
Man your link is doing a great Job of making you look ignorant!
Link:
"Thus, the spring brakes (sometimes referred to as "Maxis," or
maxi-brakes) are always on, unless the spring is "caged" by the second
additional air chamber, "piggy-backed" onto the one already there for
the regular service brakes. To de-apply the parking brakes, the system
must first be brought up to pressure"
And I wrote (simplified of course):
"This is because air is used to push against the heavy springs that are
ALWAYS trying to push the brake shoes against the drums."
Good grief Bill, you are horrible at this... I'm starting to feel like
I'm beating up on a cripple, so if you want the last word(s) go for it,
make up some outlandish accusation, link to some semi-relevant page that
does a good job of contradicting you, and accuse me of being something
you have no idea about... have fun...
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
#322
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Re: Jeep Toad
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> You wrote: "a lack of air will result in total brakes."
Yep I sure did... and here's what YOUR OWN LINK SAYS ABOUT THE SAME SUBJECT:
"if the system loses its pressure, the de-application pressure is also
lost, and the parking brakes will come on as the pressure decreases -
providing an "automatic" setting of the parking brakes if system
pressure is lost on the road."
So there you go Bill thanks for proving what I said with your link... a
lack of air means your brakes lock up. Man are you _TRYING_ to look
clueless?
HEY lets do this some more... I'm enjoying embarrassing the biggest
------- on this group so here's some more point for point:
Your link:
"Of major importance is the difference between air and the "normal"
hydraulic brakes with which all are familiar - the air brake pedal is
not a Pump, as with hydraulic brakes, but rather a Valve."
Which is a fancy way of saying the same thing I said:
"Because air brake systems works backwards from how we are used to
brakes working...
The default state on a semi's brake system is LOCKED UP... Unlike
hydrolic systems where a lack of fluid will result in NO BRAKES, a lack
of air will result in total brakes."
Man your link is doing a great Job of making you look ignorant!
Link:
"Thus, the spring brakes (sometimes referred to as "Maxis," or
maxi-brakes) are always on, unless the spring is "caged" by the second
additional air chamber, "piggy-backed" onto the one already there for
the regular service brakes. To de-apply the parking brakes, the system
must first be brought up to pressure"
And I wrote (simplified of course):
"This is because air is used to push against the heavy springs that are
ALWAYS trying to push the brake shoes against the drums."
Good grief Bill, you are horrible at this... I'm starting to feel like
I'm beating up on a cripple, so if you want the last word(s) go for it,
make up some outlandish accusation, link to some semi-relevant page that
does a good job of contradicting you, and accuse me of being something
you have no idea about... have fun...
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
> You wrote: "a lack of air will result in total brakes."
Yep I sure did... and here's what YOUR OWN LINK SAYS ABOUT THE SAME SUBJECT:
"if the system loses its pressure, the de-application pressure is also
lost, and the parking brakes will come on as the pressure decreases -
providing an "automatic" setting of the parking brakes if system
pressure is lost on the road."
So there you go Bill thanks for proving what I said with your link... a
lack of air means your brakes lock up. Man are you _TRYING_ to look
clueless?
HEY lets do this some more... I'm enjoying embarrassing the biggest
------- on this group so here's some more point for point:
Your link:
"Of major importance is the difference between air and the "normal"
hydraulic brakes with which all are familiar - the air brake pedal is
not a Pump, as with hydraulic brakes, but rather a Valve."
Which is a fancy way of saying the same thing I said:
"Because air brake systems works backwards from how we are used to
brakes working...
The default state on a semi's brake system is LOCKED UP... Unlike
hydrolic systems where a lack of fluid will result in NO BRAKES, a lack
of air will result in total brakes."
Man your link is doing a great Job of making you look ignorant!
Link:
"Thus, the spring brakes (sometimes referred to as "Maxis," or
maxi-brakes) are always on, unless the spring is "caged" by the second
additional air chamber, "piggy-backed" onto the one already there for
the regular service brakes. To de-apply the parking brakes, the system
must first be brought up to pressure"
And I wrote (simplified of course):
"This is because air is used to push against the heavy springs that are
ALWAYS trying to push the brake shoes against the drums."
Good grief Bill, you are horrible at this... I'm starting to feel like
I'm beating up on a cripple, so if you want the last word(s) go for it,
make up some outlandish accusation, link to some semi-relevant page that
does a good job of contradicting you, and accuse me of being something
you have no idea about... have fun...
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
#323
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Re: Jeep Toad
Last Spring: http://www.----------.com/jeeps22506.jpg
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Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> <sigh> for the fourth or fifth time, Bill, you've guessed wrong... While
> it is hard to imagine that someone as completely divorced from reality
> as you would choose a similar political philosophy as I, I guess I have
> to accept it.
>
> I guess I could chalk it up to even a blind squirrel finding a nut
> sometimes, or in this case, a semi senile net-kook choosing the same
> political bent.
>
> I didn't snip your link for any such paranoid delusional reason as you
> assert, I snip to keep the point clear. It still exists in your post for
> anyone to see.
>
> And where have I evaded any question by ANYONE? Hell no one's ever asked
> me, and frankly I have never cared about anyone else's wheeling. I wheel
> in VA mostly woods trails and more often than not as a mean to an end
> (fishing for Smallmouth Bass, canoing and ATV riding) Nothing incredibly
> exciting which is why I don't bother talking about it.
>
> Anyway careful where you go with this because everyone here knows damn
> well that you haven't wheeled a damn thing in recent history.
>
> --
> Simon
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> <sigh> for the fourth or fifth time, Bill, you've guessed wrong... While
> it is hard to imagine that someone as completely divorced from reality
> as you would choose a similar political philosophy as I, I guess I have
> to accept it.
>
> I guess I could chalk it up to even a blind squirrel finding a nut
> sometimes, or in this case, a semi senile net-kook choosing the same
> political bent.
>
> I didn't snip your link for any such paranoid delusional reason as you
> assert, I snip to keep the point clear. It still exists in your post for
> anyone to see.
>
> And where have I evaded any question by ANYONE? Hell no one's ever asked
> me, and frankly I have never cared about anyone else's wheeling. I wheel
> in VA mostly woods trails and more often than not as a mean to an end
> (fishing for Smallmouth Bass, canoing and ATV riding) Nothing incredibly
> exciting which is why I don't bother talking about it.
>
> Anyway careful where you go with this because everyone here knows damn
> well that you haven't wheeled a damn thing in recent history.
>
> --
> Simon
#324
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Re: Jeep Toad
Last Spring: http://www.----------.com/jeeps22506.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> <sigh> for the fourth or fifth time, Bill, you've guessed wrong... While
> it is hard to imagine that someone as completely divorced from reality
> as you would choose a similar political philosophy as I, I guess I have
> to accept it.
>
> I guess I could chalk it up to even a blind squirrel finding a nut
> sometimes, or in this case, a semi senile net-kook choosing the same
> political bent.
>
> I didn't snip your link for any such paranoid delusional reason as you
> assert, I snip to keep the point clear. It still exists in your post for
> anyone to see.
>
> And where have I evaded any question by ANYONE? Hell no one's ever asked
> me, and frankly I have never cared about anyone else's wheeling. I wheel
> in VA mostly woods trails and more often than not as a mean to an end
> (fishing for Smallmouth Bass, canoing and ATV riding) Nothing incredibly
> exciting which is why I don't bother talking about it.
>
> Anyway careful where you go with this because everyone here knows damn
> well that you haven't wheeled a damn thing in recent history.
>
> --
> Simon
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> <sigh> for the fourth or fifth time, Bill, you've guessed wrong... While
> it is hard to imagine that someone as completely divorced from reality
> as you would choose a similar political philosophy as I, I guess I have
> to accept it.
>
> I guess I could chalk it up to even a blind squirrel finding a nut
> sometimes, or in this case, a semi senile net-kook choosing the same
> political bent.
>
> I didn't snip your link for any such paranoid delusional reason as you
> assert, I snip to keep the point clear. It still exists in your post for
> anyone to see.
>
> And where have I evaded any question by ANYONE? Hell no one's ever asked
> me, and frankly I have never cared about anyone else's wheeling. I wheel
> in VA mostly woods trails and more often than not as a mean to an end
> (fishing for Smallmouth Bass, canoing and ATV riding) Nothing incredibly
> exciting which is why I don't bother talking about it.
>
> Anyway careful where you go with this because everyone here knows damn
> well that you haven't wheeled a damn thing in recent history.
>
> --
> Simon
#325
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Re: Jeep Toad
Last Spring: http://www.----------.com/jeeps22506.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> <sigh> for the fourth or fifth time, Bill, you've guessed wrong... While
> it is hard to imagine that someone as completely divorced from reality
> as you would choose a similar political philosophy as I, I guess I have
> to accept it.
>
> I guess I could chalk it up to even a blind squirrel finding a nut
> sometimes, or in this case, a semi senile net-kook choosing the same
> political bent.
>
> I didn't snip your link for any such paranoid delusional reason as you
> assert, I snip to keep the point clear. It still exists in your post for
> anyone to see.
>
> And where have I evaded any question by ANYONE? Hell no one's ever asked
> me, and frankly I have never cared about anyone else's wheeling. I wheel
> in VA mostly woods trails and more often than not as a mean to an end
> (fishing for Smallmouth Bass, canoing and ATV riding) Nothing incredibly
> exciting which is why I don't bother talking about it.
>
> Anyway careful where you go with this because everyone here knows damn
> well that you haven't wheeled a damn thing in recent history.
>
> --
> Simon
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> <sigh> for the fourth or fifth time, Bill, you've guessed wrong... While
> it is hard to imagine that someone as completely divorced from reality
> as you would choose a similar political philosophy as I, I guess I have
> to accept it.
>
> I guess I could chalk it up to even a blind squirrel finding a nut
> sometimes, or in this case, a semi senile net-kook choosing the same
> political bent.
>
> I didn't snip your link for any such paranoid delusional reason as you
> assert, I snip to keep the point clear. It still exists in your post for
> anyone to see.
>
> And where have I evaded any question by ANYONE? Hell no one's ever asked
> me, and frankly I have never cared about anyone else's wheeling. I wheel
> in VA mostly woods trails and more often than not as a mean to an end
> (fishing for Smallmouth Bass, canoing and ATV riding) Nothing incredibly
> exciting which is why I don't bother talking about it.
>
> Anyway careful where you go with this because everyone here knows damn
> well that you haven't wheeled a damn thing in recent history.
>
> --
> Simon
#326
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Re: Jeep Toad
And they only lockup the axles the maxis are on.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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#327
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Re: Jeep Toad
And they only lockup the axles the maxis are on.
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#328
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Re: Jeep Toad
And they only lockup the axles the maxis are on.
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#329
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Re: Jeep Toad
Your answers remind us of a computer program named "Eliza" except that
yours is running on a computer with memory parity errors and a really
bad virus.
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> Your answers remind me of the Mexican drivers that cause so many
> wrecks.
> http://www.----------.com/license.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Simon Juncal wrote:
>
>>Bill I'm a current CDL class A holder with every endorsement. I don't
>>know if there were classifications (or even Commercial Drivers license's
>>for that matter) back in your day (i.e. olden tymes) but that means I'm
>>legally qualified to drive just about anything that's allowed on a
>>public highway. I have driven every major make of tractor and done so in
>>every contiguous state of the Union, as well as the foriegn countries of
>>Mexico, Canada and the Socialist Republic of California.
>>
>>Now you, on the other hand are a crochity old shut in who hasn't been
>>behind the wheel of anything more powerful than a "Senior Buddy" battery
>>powered grocery scooter in the last decade.
>>
>>So here you are not proving a damn thing (again) pretending you know
>>more about suspensions than LEGENDARY off-road racers like Parnelli
>>Jones and current pro's because you once.... long long ago, played with
>>a leaf sprung, drum braked sand rail.
>>
>>--
>>Simon
#330
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Re: Jeep Toad
Your answers remind us of a computer program named "Eliza" except that
yours is running on a computer with memory parity errors and a really
bad virus.
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> Your answers remind me of the Mexican drivers that cause so many
> wrecks.
> http://www.----------.com/license.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Simon Juncal wrote:
>
>>Bill I'm a current CDL class A holder with every endorsement. I don't
>>know if there were classifications (or even Commercial Drivers license's
>>for that matter) back in your day (i.e. olden tymes) but that means I'm
>>legally qualified to drive just about anything that's allowed on a
>>public highway. I have driven every major make of tractor and done so in
>>every contiguous state of the Union, as well as the foriegn countries of
>>Mexico, Canada and the Socialist Republic of California.
>>
>>Now you, on the other hand are a crochity old shut in who hasn't been
>>behind the wheel of anything more powerful than a "Senior Buddy" battery
>>powered grocery scooter in the last decade.
>>
>>So here you are not proving a damn thing (again) pretending you know
>>more about suspensions than LEGENDARY off-road racers like Parnelli
>>Jones and current pro's because you once.... long long ago, played with
>>a leaf sprung, drum braked sand rail.
>>
>>--
>>Simon