"Joseph Oberlander" <josephoberlander@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Don wrote:
>
> > Sorry if I pissed anyone off folks - no trolling intended.
> >
> > Paul asked for opinions and I offered mine. Everyone I know that has
had a
> > odern Jeep wishes he hadn't. Now to qualify that - I have not heard
many
> > bad things about the CJ/Wrangler - these were all the Cherokee/Grand
> > Cherokee/Larado (sp?) models.
> >
> > In addition, we bought a bunch of them as construction vehicles to
supervise
> > an off road project - not a lot of mud - just a lot of rough terrain.
>
> For a real project like this I would have gone with a used military
vehicle.
> That Unimog isn't going to break on you, I can guarantee it. Of course,
finding
> one is a bit tough.
>
> www.real4x4.com Now that's a 4*4 :)
>

one of my friends has two old ex-army mogs. one he replaced the engine with
one from a Combine Harvester. lots of low end torque and very little high
end power. so it's never going to stall but he's not very likely to set a
land speed record... lol

rhys

 

"Joseph Oberlander" <josephoberlander@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Don wrote:
>
> > Sorry if I pissed anyone off folks - no trolling intended.
> >
> > Paul asked for opinions and I offered mine. Everyone I know that has
had a
> > odern Jeep wishes he hadn't. Now to qualify that - I have not heard
many
> > bad things about the CJ/Wrangler - these were all the Cherokee/Grand
> > Cherokee/Larado (sp?) models.
> >
> > In addition, we bought a bunch of them as construction vehicles to
supervise
> > an off road project - not a lot of mud - just a lot of rough terrain.
>
> For a real project like this I would have gone with a used military
vehicle.
> That Unimog isn't going to break on you, I can guarantee it. Of course,
finding
> one is a bit tough.
>
> www.real4x4.com Now that's a 4*4 :)
>

one of my friends has two old ex-army mogs. one he replaced the engine with
one from a Combine Harvester. lots of low end torque and very little high
end power. so it's never going to stall but he's not very likely to set a
land speed record... lol

rhys

 

In article <3F723791.9D668F22@mindspring.com>, cewhite3@mindspring.com
says...
>
>
> "Dan J.S." wrote:
>
> > Let's look at reliability. Look at jdpower.com and compare long term
> > reliability tests of 4 runner vs. explorer. vs jeep grand cherokee. Toyota
> > always comes up on top. Also, I have friends that racked over half a million
> > miles on their 4 runners. This is something American made SUVs just do not
> > do. I think the original poster would be better of spending a little more to
> > get better quality.
>
> I have never driven any car 500,000 miles and find it hard to believe
> that a 4Runner has been driven that many miles. However I did once try
> to get a Toyota to 80,000 miles. It was a miserable expensive disaster.
> Oh what a feeling. My SO did manage to get a Camry over 300,000 miles,
> but it was a rolling pieces of oil spewing junk when she replaced it.
>

I know someone with an 88 that has 430,000 km on it, it works great but
there is virtually none of the original body left on it. Mine only has
140,000 km on it, it's a 93 and to people who don't know how to
differentiate model years it looks like it's only 3 or 4 years old. Of
course I've had it painted a few times and the head gasket went on it
once but other than those few major expensive its been basically put gas
in it and drive. I hope to god I don't have it for 400,000 km though,
I'm pretty bored with it now actually.

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In article <3F723791.9D668F22@mindspring.com>, cewhite3@mindspring.com
says...
>
>
> "Dan J.S." wrote:
>
> > Let's look at reliability. Look at jdpower.com and compare long term
> > reliability tests of 4 runner vs. explorer. vs jeep grand cherokee. Toyota
> > always comes up on top. Also, I have friends that racked over half a million
> > miles on their 4 runners. This is something American made SUVs just do not
> > do. I think the original poster would be better of spending a little more to
> > get better quality.
>
> I have never driven any car 500,000 miles and find it hard to believe
> that a 4Runner has been driven that many miles. However I did once try
> to get a Toyota to 80,000 miles. It was a miserable expensive disaster.
> Oh what a feeling. My SO did manage to get a Camry over 300,000 miles,
> but it was a rolling pieces of oil spewing junk when she replaced it.
>

I know someone with an 88 that has 430,000 km on it, it works great but
there is virtually none of the original body left on it. Mine only has
140,000 km on it, it's a 93 and to people who don't know how to
differentiate model years it looks like it's only 3 or 4 years old. Of
course I've had it painted a few times and the head gasket went on it
once but other than those few major expensive its been basically put gas
in it and drive. I hope to god I don't have it for 400,000 km though,
I'm pretty bored with it now actually.

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In article <3F723791.9D668F22@mindspring.com>, cewhite3@mindspring.com
says...
>
>
> "Dan J.S." wrote:
>
> > Let's look at reliability. Look at jdpower.com and compare long term
> > reliability tests of 4 runner vs. explorer. vs jeep grand cherokee. Toyota
> > always comes up on top. Also, I have friends that racked over half a million
> > miles on their 4 runners. This is something American made SUVs just do not
> > do. I think the original poster would be better of spending a little more to
> > get better quality.
>
> I have never driven any car 500,000 miles and find it hard to believe
> that a 4Runner has been driven that many miles. However I did once try
> to get a Toyota to 80,000 miles. It was a miserable expensive disaster.
> Oh what a feeling. My SO did manage to get a Camry over 300,000 miles,
> but it was a rolling pieces of oil spewing junk when she replaced it.
>

I know someone with an 88 that has 430,000 km on it, it works great but
there is virtually none of the original body left on it. Mine only has
140,000 km on it, it's a 93 and to people who don't know how to
differentiate model years it looks like it's only 3 or 4 years old. Of
course I've had it painted a few times and the head gasket went on it
once but other than those few major expensive its been basically put gas
in it and drive. I hope to god I don't have it for 400,000 km though,
I'm pretty bored with it now actually.

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some other idiot wrote...

>> I have never driven any car 500,000 miles and find it hard to believe
>> that a 4Runner has been driven that many miles. However I did once try
>> to get a Toyota to 80,000 miles. It was a miserable expensive disaster.

Your inability to take care of a vehicle does not an impartial study
make.


On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:07:44 -0400, Chris Phillipo
<Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:

>I know someone with an 88 that has 430,000 km on it, it works great but
>there is virtually none of the original body left on it. Mine only has
>140,000 km on it, it's a 93 and to people who don't know how to
>differentiate model years it looks like it's only 3 or 4 years old. Of
>course I've had it painted a few times and the head gasket went on it
>once but other than those few major expensive its been basically put gas
>in it and drive. I hope to god I don't have it for 400,000 km though,
>I'm pretty bored with it now actually.

Honda and Toyota are two of the extremely few companies that can
actually build an engine. Ford, Chrysler, GM, Mercedes, and a bunch
of others just suck. Every Honda I have owned has gone over 100,000
miles without burning a drop of oil. I have never had an American car
come even close.

I laugh at Cadillac saying 100,000 without a tune up. Sure, but just
because the plugs are still firing doesn't make up for the 3 quarts of
oil per mile it burns...

 

some other idiot wrote...

>> I have never driven any car 500,000 miles and find it hard to believe
>> that a 4Runner has been driven that many miles. However I did once try
>> to get a Toyota to 80,000 miles. It was a miserable expensive disaster.

Your inability to take care of a vehicle does not an impartial study
make.


On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:07:44 -0400, Chris Phillipo
<Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:

>I know someone with an 88 that has 430,000 km on it, it works great but
>there is virtually none of the original body left on it. Mine only has
>140,000 km on it, it's a 93 and to people who don't know how to
>differentiate model years it looks like it's only 3 or 4 years old. Of
>course I've had it painted a few times and the head gasket went on it
>once but other than those few major expensive its been basically put gas
>in it and drive. I hope to god I don't have it for 400,000 km though,
>I'm pretty bored with it now actually.

Honda and Toyota are two of the extremely few companies that can
actually build an engine. Ford, Chrysler, GM, Mercedes, and a bunch
of others just suck. Every Honda I have owned has gone over 100,000
miles without burning a drop of oil. I have never had an American car
come even close.

I laugh at Cadillac saying 100,000 without a tune up. Sure, but just
because the plugs are still firing doesn't make up for the 3 quarts of
oil per mile it burns...

 

some other idiot wrote...

>> I have never driven any car 500,000 miles and find it hard to believe
>> that a 4Runner has been driven that many miles. However I did once try
>> to get a Toyota to 80,000 miles. It was a miserable expensive disaster.

Your inability to take care of a vehicle does not an impartial study
make.


On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 15:07:44 -0400, Chris Phillipo
<Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:

>I know someone with an 88 that has 430,000 km on it, it works great but
>there is virtually none of the original body left on it. Mine only has
>140,000 km on it, it's a 93 and to people who don't know how to
>differentiate model years it looks like it's only 3 or 4 years old. Of
>course I've had it painted a few times and the head gasket went on it
>once but other than those few major expensive its been basically put gas
>in it and drive. I hope to god I don't have it for 400,000 km though,
>I'm pretty bored with it now actually.

Honda and Toyota are two of the extremely few companies that can
actually build an engine. Ford, Chrysler, GM, Mercedes, and a bunch
of others just suck. Every Honda I have owned has gone over 100,000
miles without burning a drop of oil. I have never had an American car
come even close.

I laugh at Cadillac saying 100,000 without a tune up. Sure, but just
because the plugs are still firing doesn't make up for the 3 quarts of
oil per mile it burns...

 

You F**kin' bigot!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

DTJ wrote:
>
> Your inability to take care of a vehicle does not an impartial study
> make.
>
> Honda and Toyota are two of the extremely few companies that can
> actually build an engine. Ford, Chrysler, GM, Mercedes, and a bunch
> of others just suck. Every Honda I have owned has gone over 100,000
> miles without burning a drop of oil. I have never had an American car
> come even close.
>
> I laugh at Cadillac saying 100,000 without a tune up. Sure, but just
> because the plugs are still firing doesn't make up for the 3 quarts of
> oil per mile it burns...

 

You F**kin' bigot!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

DTJ wrote:
>
> Your inability to take care of a vehicle does not an impartial study
> make.
>
> Honda and Toyota are two of the extremely few companies that can
> actually build an engine. Ford, Chrysler, GM, Mercedes, and a bunch
> of others just suck. Every Honda I have owned has gone over 100,000
> miles without burning a drop of oil. I have never had an American car
> come even close.
>
> I laugh at Cadillac saying 100,000 without a tune up. Sure, but just
> because the plugs are still firing doesn't make up for the 3 quarts of
> oil per mile it burns...