Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
> In article <vsv11ij1evg618@corp.supernews.com>,
> "The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:

> >> Have you ever been to Canada?
> >
> >Yes I have. I also have friends in Canada, England, Scotland, Japan and
> >Germany, and I have discussed their "free" healthcare with them many times.
> >
> Gee, anecdotal evidence is so, well, silly.

Only Lloyd is allowed to state what he has personally been told by
someone with firsthand experience in a given matter and it not be
considered "anecdotal". When Lloyd does so, in his "mind" it "proves"
his point because "he knows somone who has experienced it firsthand!".

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Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
> In article <vsv11ij1evg618@corp.supernews.com>,
> "The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:

> >> Have you ever been to Canada?
> >
> >Yes I have. I also have friends in Canada, England, Scotland, Japan and
> >Germany, and I have discussed their "free" healthcare with them many times.
> >
> Gee, anecdotal evidence is so, well, silly.

Only Lloyd is allowed to state what he has personally been told by
someone with firsthand experience in a given matter and it not be
considered "anecdotal". When Lloyd does so, in his "mind" it "proves"
his point because "he knows somone who has experienced it firsthand!".

Bill Putney
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Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
> In article <vsv11ij1evg618@corp.supernews.com>,
> "The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:

> >> Have you ever been to Canada?
> >
> >Yes I have. I also have friends in Canada, England, Scotland, Japan and
> >Germany, and I have discussed their "free" healthcare with them many times.
> >
> Gee, anecdotal evidence is so, well, silly.

Only Lloyd is allowed to state what he has personally been told by
someone with firsthand experience in a given matter and it not be
considered "anecdotal". When Lloyd does so, in his "mind" it "proves"
his point because "he knows somone who has experienced it firsthand!".

Bill Putney
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Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
> In article <3FD001DC.2E49A486@pobox.nospam>,
> Jenn Wasdyke <wasdyke68@pobox.nospam> wrote:
> >"Daniel J. Stern" wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Bill Putney wrote:
> >>
> >> > How about a man and his dog - why shouldn't they be allowed to get
> >> > married?
> >>
> >> Because the dog is not a human and cannot consent, for two very good
> >> reasons.
> >
> >Ah, so the ability to consent is the limiting factor. I ask again, why
> >not allow three people to consent? Why not allow cousins or siblings to
> >marry so they can get the "legal benefits" of marriage?
> >
> >
> There was a study last year that found no increased risk of genetic problems
> when cousins marry.


Must've come out of Emory. They used the movie "Deliverance" as the
basis for their study. Can you squeal like a pig, Lloyd?

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Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
> In article <3FD001DC.2E49A486@pobox.nospam>,
> Jenn Wasdyke <wasdyke68@pobox.nospam> wrote:
> >"Daniel J. Stern" wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Bill Putney wrote:
> >>
> >> > How about a man and his dog - why shouldn't they be allowed to get
> >> > married?
> >>
> >> Because the dog is not a human and cannot consent, for two very good
> >> reasons.
> >
> >Ah, so the ability to consent is the limiting factor. I ask again, why
> >not allow three people to consent? Why not allow cousins or siblings to
> >marry so they can get the "legal benefits" of marriage?
> >
> >
> There was a study last year that found no increased risk of genetic problems
> when cousins marry.


Must've come out of Emory. They used the movie "Deliverance" as the
basis for their study. Can you squeal like a pig, Lloyd?

Bill Putney
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Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
> In article <3FD001DC.2E49A486@pobox.nospam>,
> Jenn Wasdyke <wasdyke68@pobox.nospam> wrote:
> >"Daniel J. Stern" wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Bill Putney wrote:
> >>
> >> > How about a man and his dog - why shouldn't they be allowed to get
> >> > married?
> >>
> >> Because the dog is not a human and cannot consent, for two very good
> >> reasons.
> >
> >Ah, so the ability to consent is the limiting factor. I ask again, why
> >not allow three people to consent? Why not allow cousins or siblings to
> >marry so they can get the "legal benefits" of marriage?
> >
> >
> There was a study last year that found no increased risk of genetic problems
> when cousins marry.


Must've come out of Emory. They used the movie "Deliverance" as the
basis for their study. Can you squeal like a pig, Lloyd?

Bill Putney
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Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
> In article <IoXzb.34$R9.18@twister.socal.rr.com>,
> "David J. Allen" <dallen03NO_SPAM@sanNO_SPAM.rr.com> wrote:

> >There's no civil rights that gays lose out on without marriage. Assets can
> >be protected, people insured, etc.
>
> Right to inherit

Uh - called a will (already available).

> ...right to make decisions
> when partner is dying

Uh - called "medical power of attorney" (already available)

> >I don't suppose Clarence Thomas would qualify as a civil rights authority.
> >Would he?
>
> No.

Because he walked off the liberal plantation, so he deserves lynching
and castration, right. Lloyd?. He's not endorsed by the NAA*L*CP.

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Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
> In article <IoXzb.34$R9.18@twister.socal.rr.com>,
> "David J. Allen" <dallen03NO_SPAM@sanNO_SPAM.rr.com> wrote:

> >There's no civil rights that gays lose out on without marriage. Assets can
> >be protected, people insured, etc.
>
> Right to inherit

Uh - called a will (already available).

> ...right to make decisions
> when partner is dying

Uh - called "medical power of attorney" (already available)

> >I don't suppose Clarence Thomas would qualify as a civil rights authority.
> >Would he?
>
> No.

Because he walked off the liberal plantation, so he deserves lynching
and castration, right. Lloyd?. He's not endorsed by the NAA*L*CP.

Bill Putney
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Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
> In article <IoXzb.34$R9.18@twister.socal.rr.com>,
> "David J. Allen" <dallen03NO_SPAM@sanNO_SPAM.rr.com> wrote:

> >There's no civil rights that gays lose out on without marriage. Assets can
> >be protected, people insured, etc.
>
> Right to inherit

Uh - called a will (already available).

> ...right to make decisions
> when partner is dying

Uh - called "medical power of attorney" (already available)

> >I don't suppose Clarence Thomas would qualify as a civil rights authority.
> >Would he?
>
> No.

Because he walked off the liberal plantation, so he deserves lynching
and castration, right. Lloyd?. He's not endorsed by the NAA*L*CP.

Bill Putney
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Lloyd Parker wrote:

> In article <3FCFF72A.4ECBA03E@greg.greg>, Greg <greg@greg.greg> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Bill Funk wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 03 Dec 03 10:46:25 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <rdqdncPcUbqAYlGiRTvUqQ@texas.net>, Steve <no@spam.thanks>
> wrote:
> >> >>Greg wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Lloyd Parker wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>"new source" creation, which was contrary to the actual written law.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Wrong. They started treating major modifications as new sources, which
> was
> >> >>>>exactly what the law allowed (and required).
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> MAJOR modifications. Not minor improvements which would INCREASE
> >> >efficiency, such
> >> >>> as a new version of wear items such as turbine blades.
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>EXACTLY. Clinton policy = NO MODIFICATIONS!! Not even improvements to an
> >> >>old plant that would be better than doing nothing.
> >> >
> >> >Because the Clean Air Act only exempts _maintenance_ not _modifications_.
> >>
> >> I see.
> >> So making it BETTER brings on penalties, but keeping it dirty is OK?
> >> How is this supposed to clean up the air?
> >
> >The special llogic magic takes care of that. See cleaning the air obviously
> isn't
> >important to Lloyd, no matter how much he'll claim otherwise, because he
> favors
> >perverse inventives of treating parts replacments as "substrantial
> modifications"
> >Instead it's what he feels that manners--not the real world. .
> >
> No, of course, utility company profits are more important than children and
> grandparents dying of respiratory illness.

Strawman.

> Every good right-wing
> fundamentalist knows that.

I'm sure YOUR house isn't connected to the grid. The grid which is powered by
those awful fuel burning, atom splitting, and even those chamber of horrors
windmills! No, I'll bet your lights, precious air conditioner, and computer are
specially powered by an unlimited supply of hot air emitted from its owner,
right?