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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
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> In article <vsvl3ql92lu9d3@corp.supernews.com>,
> "The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
> >
> >"Brandon Sommerville" <grimrod@mindless.com.gov> wrote in message
> >news:7dc396f584336d32b246a944411c15de@news.terane ws.com...
> >> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:16:23 -0500, "The Ancient One"
> >> <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >And yet the exodus from Canada to the US for treatment continues
> >unabaited.
> >> >To be so bad here it is amazing that so many come here from so many
> >> >countries, giving up free care for prompt, high quality care here.
You
> >get
> >> >reallly sick there, you get a tumor that requires immediate surgery,
but
> >the
> >> >system is over budget and you're put on a six to twelve month waiting
> >list,
> >> >and then we'll see how fast you come running to America for immediate
> >> >treatment.
> >>
> >> It's not quite that simple. If you need a procedure, they evaluate
> >> how urgent it is. If it's extremely urgent you get bumped to the top
> >> of the list. If it's not so urgent, you get on the waiting list and
> >> get done after others who have been waiting longer are processed. If
> >> you don't want to wait and can afford it, you go to somewhere that you
> >> can pay for the procedure, which is down south. A great system if
> >> you're wealthy.
> >>
> >> I know that no matter what happens, if I blow out my knee I'm going to
> >> get an MRI. It may take 8 weeks, but I'll get it and it won't cost me
> >> anything extra. Can you say the same thing?
> >
> >I have a friend who went to the Doctor for a routine physical. The Doctor
> >did not like whaat he saw on the treadmill test and checked him into the
> >hospital, where he had a balloon angioplasty that same afternoon. How
long
> >would he have waited "on the list" in Canada for the same treatment,
>
> How long would he have waited here if he were poor or had no insurance?
He
> wouldn't have even had the routine physical, and you know it.
He is a truck driver, the physical is mandated by the government, who
doesn't care if you can afford it. Once he was diagnosed he had no choice
but to have the procedure, or his drivers licence would have been revoked.
Cost was irrelevant, as his future income was at stake if he lost his
licence. But you don't care, you just want to argue. There is most likely a
wall behind you, argue with it, it has a higher IQ than you do, and will
debate as long as you like.
>
> >considering he was outwardly healthy and active. Would he have lived that
> >long? How could he have been sure?
> >I know if I need medical treatment I can get it, NOW, now later. To me,
that
> >is important. I really don't care how Canada does it, if you're happy
great.
> >I'm just against Lloyd and his cronies trying to change ours, which would
> >stifle it, and lower the quaility of care for everyone, including
Canadians.
> >
> >
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
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> In article <vsvl3ql92lu9d3@corp.supernews.com>,
> "The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
> >
> >"Brandon Sommerville" <grimrod@mindless.com.gov> wrote in message
> >news:7dc396f584336d32b246a944411c15de@news.terane ws.com...
> >> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:16:23 -0500, "The Ancient One"
> >> <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >And yet the exodus from Canada to the US for treatment continues
> >unabaited.
> >> >To be so bad here it is amazing that so many come here from so many
> >> >countries, giving up free care for prompt, high quality care here.
You
> >get
> >> >reallly sick there, you get a tumor that requires immediate surgery,
but
> >the
> >> >system is over budget and you're put on a six to twelve month waiting
> >list,
> >> >and then we'll see how fast you come running to America for immediate
> >> >treatment.
> >>
> >> It's not quite that simple. If you need a procedure, they evaluate
> >> how urgent it is. If it's extremely urgent you get bumped to the top
> >> of the list. If it's not so urgent, you get on the waiting list and
> >> get done after others who have been waiting longer are processed. If
> >> you don't want to wait and can afford it, you go to somewhere that you
> >> can pay for the procedure, which is down south. A great system if
> >> you're wealthy.
> >>
> >> I know that no matter what happens, if I blow out my knee I'm going to
> >> get an MRI. It may take 8 weeks, but I'll get it and it won't cost me
> >> anything extra. Can you say the same thing?
> >
> >I have a friend who went to the Doctor for a routine physical. The Doctor
> >did not like whaat he saw on the treadmill test and checked him into the
> >hospital, where he had a balloon angioplasty that same afternoon. How
long
> >would he have waited "on the list" in Canada for the same treatment,
>
> How long would he have waited here if he were poor or had no insurance?
He
> wouldn't have even had the routine physical, and you know it.
He is a truck driver, the physical is mandated by the government, who
doesn't care if you can afford it. Once he was diagnosed he had no choice
but to have the procedure, or his drivers licence would have been revoked.
Cost was irrelevant, as his future income was at stake if he lost his
licence. But you don't care, you just want to argue. There is most likely a
wall behind you, argue with it, it has a higher IQ than you do, and will
debate as long as you like.
>
> >considering he was outwardly healthy and active. Would he have lived that
> >long? How could he have been sure?
> >I know if I need medical treatment I can get it, NOW, now later. To me,
that
> >is important. I really don't care how Canada does it, if you're happy
great.
> >I'm just against Lloyd and his cronies trying to change ours, which would
> >stifle it, and lower the quaility of care for everyone, including
Canadians.
> >
> >
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
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> In article <vsvl3ql92lu9d3@corp.supernews.com>,
> "The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
> >
> >"Brandon Sommerville" <grimrod@mindless.com.gov> wrote in message
> >news:7dc396f584336d32b246a944411c15de@news.terane ws.com...
> >> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:16:23 -0500, "The Ancient One"
> >> <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >And yet the exodus from Canada to the US for treatment continues
> >unabaited.
> >> >To be so bad here it is amazing that so many come here from so many
> >> >countries, giving up free care for prompt, high quality care here.
You
> >get
> >> >reallly sick there, you get a tumor that requires immediate surgery,
but
> >the
> >> >system is over budget and you're put on a six to twelve month waiting
> >list,
> >> >and then we'll see how fast you come running to America for immediate
> >> >treatment.
> >>
> >> It's not quite that simple. If you need a procedure, they evaluate
> >> how urgent it is. If it's extremely urgent you get bumped to the top
> >> of the list. If it's not so urgent, you get on the waiting list and
> >> get done after others who have been waiting longer are processed. If
> >> you don't want to wait and can afford it, you go to somewhere that you
> >> can pay for the procedure, which is down south. A great system if
> >> you're wealthy.
> >>
> >> I know that no matter what happens, if I blow out my knee I'm going to
> >> get an MRI. It may take 8 weeks, but I'll get it and it won't cost me
> >> anything extra. Can you say the same thing?
> >
> >I have a friend who went to the Doctor for a routine physical. The Doctor
> >did not like whaat he saw on the treadmill test and checked him into the
> >hospital, where he had a balloon angioplasty that same afternoon. How
long
> >would he have waited "on the list" in Canada for the same treatment,
>
> How long would he have waited here if he were poor or had no insurance?
He
> wouldn't have even had the routine physical, and you know it.
He is a truck driver, the physical is mandated by the government, who
doesn't care if you can afford it. Once he was diagnosed he had no choice
but to have the procedure, or his drivers licence would have been revoked.
Cost was irrelevant, as his future income was at stake if he lost his
licence. But you don't care, you just want to argue. There is most likely a
wall behind you, argue with it, it has a higher IQ than you do, and will
debate as long as you like.
>
> >considering he was outwardly healthy and active. Would he have lived that
> >long? How could he have been sure?
> >I know if I need medical treatment I can get it, NOW, now later. To me,
that
> >is important. I really don't care how Canada does it, if you're happy
great.
> >I'm just against Lloyd and his cronies trying to change ours, which would
> >stifle it, and lower the quaility of care for everyone, including
Canadians.
> >
> >
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
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> In article <vsuufpf0quc4f3@corp.supernews.com>,
> "The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
> >
> >And yet the exodus from Canada to the US for treatment continues
unabaited.
>
> Urban legend (or coming from you, outright lie).
You do realize you are the only one who believes your delusions don't you
Lloyd?
> >
> >
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
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> In article <vsuufpf0quc4f3@corp.supernews.com>,
> "The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
> >
> >And yet the exodus from Canada to the US for treatment continues
unabaited.
>
> Urban legend (or coming from you, outright lie).
You do realize you are the only one who believes your delusions don't you
Lloyd?
> >
> >
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
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> In article <vsuufpf0quc4f3@corp.supernews.com>,
> "The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
> >
> >And yet the exodus from Canada to the US for treatment continues
unabaited.
>
> Urban legend (or coming from you, outright lie).
You do realize you are the only one who believes your delusions don't you
Lloyd?
> >
> >
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
"Dan Gates" <dgates@kellerengineering.com> wrote in message
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> Bill Funk wrote:
> > On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 12:30:46 -0500, Dan Gates
> > <dgates@kellerengineering.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Lets compare, shall we?
> >> Can. US
> >>Life expectancy at birth? 82.7 66.9
> >
> >
> > http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/lifexpec.htm
> > http://www.retirelink.com/education/LifeExpectancy.html
> > http://www.who.int/inf-pr-2000/en/pr2000-life.html
> > http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0005148.html
> >
> > Google shows much more of the same.
> > Where did 66.9 come from?
> >
>
>
> I explained earlier that I was reading the incorrect Appendix, which
> appears to have a different base value.
>
> Sorry
Truth be known, I imagine we are all wrong, and the truth is still waiting
to be found.
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
"Dan Gates" <dgates@kellerengineering.com> wrote in message
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> Bill Funk wrote:
> > On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 12:30:46 -0500, Dan Gates
> > <dgates@kellerengineering.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Lets compare, shall we?
> >> Can. US
> >>Life expectancy at birth? 82.7 66.9
> >
> >
> > http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/lifexpec.htm
> > http://www.retirelink.com/education/LifeExpectancy.html
> > http://www.who.int/inf-pr-2000/en/pr2000-life.html
> > http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0005148.html
> >
> > Google shows much more of the same.
> > Where did 66.9 come from?
> >
>
>
> I explained earlier that I was reading the incorrect Appendix, which
> appears to have a different base value.
>
> Sorry
Truth be known, I imagine we are all wrong, and the truth is still waiting
to be found.
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
"Dan Gates" <dgates@kellerengineering.com> wrote in message
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> Bill Funk wrote:
> > On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 12:30:46 -0500, Dan Gates
> > <dgates@kellerengineering.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Lets compare, shall we?
> >> Can. US
> >>Life expectancy at birth? 82.7 66.9
> >
> >
> > http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/lifexpec.htm
> > http://www.retirelink.com/education/LifeExpectancy.html
> > http://www.who.int/inf-pr-2000/en/pr2000-life.html
> > http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0005148.html
> >
> > Google shows much more of the same.
> > Where did 66.9 come from?
> >
>
>
> I explained earlier that I was reading the incorrect Appendix, which
> appears to have a different base value.
>
> Sorry
Truth be known, I imagine we are all wrong, and the truth is still waiting
to be found.
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safetycanbe misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
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> In article <vsv11ij1evg618@corp.supernews.com>,
> "The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
> >
> >"Brandon Sommerville" <grimrod@mindless.com.gov> wrote in message
> >news:027ccc8327688e937bc1d3dddb7c8994@news.terane ws.com...
> >> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:49:02 -0500, "The Ancient One"
> >> <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
> >>
>news:Pine.SOL.4.44.0312032057380.21202-100000@alumni.engin.umich.edu...
> >>
> >> >> Mine is based on getting very suddenly struck down with a large and
> >lodged
> >> >> kidney stone at 4 in the morning while in Toronto. Extremely
painful,
> >but
> >> >> not life threatening. I was diagnosed, treated, operated upon and
> >> >> prescribed suitable meds in a fast, efficient, capable, thorough
> >manner.
> >> >
> >> >You were lucky they still had money in the budget at that time,
otherwise
> >> >you would have been placed on a waiting list.
> >>
> >> Have you ever been to Canada?
> >
> >Yes I have. I also have friends in Canada, England, Scotland, Japan and
> >Germany, and I have discussed their "free" healthcare with them many
times.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> Gee, anecdotal evidence is so, well, silly.
You're starting to bore me Parker, it is so tireing to argue with such a low
IQ as your's. Come back when you grow a brain.