"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
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> In article <vsv11ij1evg618@corp.supernews.com>,
> "The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
> >
> >"Brandon Sommerville" <grimrod@mindless.com.gov> wrote in message
> >news:027ccc8327688e937bc1d3dddb7c8994@news.terane ws.com...
> >> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:49:02 -0500, "The Ancient One"
> >> <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
> >>
>news:Pine.SOL.4.44.0312032057380.21202-100000@alumni.engin.umich.edu...
> >>
> >> >> Mine is based on getting very suddenly struck down with a large and
> >lodged
> >> >> kidney stone at 4 in the morning while in Toronto. Extremely
painful,
> >but
> >> >> not life threatening. I was diagnosed, treated, operated upon and
> >> >> prescribed suitable meds in a fast, efficient, capable, thorough
> >manner.
> >> >
> >> >You were lucky they still had money in the budget at that time,
otherwise
> >> >you would have been placed on a waiting list.
> >>
> >> Have you ever been to Canada?
> >
> >Yes I have. I also have friends in Canada, England, Scotland, Japan and
> >Germany, and I have discussed their "free" healthcare with them many
times.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> Gee, anecdotal evidence is so, well, silly.

You're starting to bore me Parker, it is so tireing to argue with such a low
IQ as your's. Come back when you grow a brain.

 

"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:bqq8j0$ikt$6@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> In article <vsv11ij1evg618@corp.supernews.com>,
> "The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
> >
> >"Brandon Sommerville" <grimrod@mindless.com.gov> wrote in message
> >news:027ccc8327688e937bc1d3dddb7c8994@news.terane ws.com...
> >> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:49:02 -0500, "The Ancient One"
> >> <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
> >>
>news:Pine.SOL.4.44.0312032057380.21202-100000@alumni.engin.umich.edu...
> >>
> >> >> Mine is based on getting very suddenly struck down with a large and
> >lodged
> >> >> kidney stone at 4 in the morning while in Toronto. Extremely
painful,
> >but
> >> >> not life threatening. I was diagnosed, treated, operated upon and
> >> >> prescribed suitable meds in a fast, efficient, capable, thorough
> >manner.
> >> >
> >> >You were lucky they still had money in the budget at that time,
otherwise
> >> >you would have been placed on a waiting list.
> >>
> >> Have you ever been to Canada?
> >
> >Yes I have. I also have friends in Canada, England, Scotland, Japan and
> >Germany, and I have discussed their "free" healthcare with them many
times.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> Gee, anecdotal evidence is so, well, silly.

You're starting to bore me Parker, it is so tireing to argue with such a low
IQ as your's. Come back when you grow a brain.

 

On 05 Dec 3 05:03 AM, Lloyd Parker posted the following:

> Airbus receives no state subsidies, but Boeing has a hugely profitable
> lease deal for tankers with the AF that Sen. McCain calls a rip-off
> of the taxpayers.

Senator McCain is against the U.S. civil aviation industry in general,
for reasons known only to him. His sorry *** should have been left to
rot in the Hanoi Hilton.

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On 05 Dec 3 05:03 AM, Lloyd Parker posted the following:

> Airbus receives no state subsidies, but Boeing has a hugely profitable
> lease deal for tankers with the AF that Sen. McCain calls a rip-off
> of the taxpayers.

Senator McCain is against the U.S. civil aviation industry in general,
for reasons known only to him. His sorry *** should have been left to
rot in the Hanoi Hilton.

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On 05 Dec 3 05:03 AM, Lloyd Parker posted the following:

> Airbus receives no state subsidies, but Boeing has a hugely profitable
> lease deal for tankers with the AF that Sen. McCain calls a rip-off
> of the taxpayers.

Senator McCain is against the U.S. civil aviation industry in general,
for reasons known only to him. His sorry *** should have been left to
rot in the Hanoi Hilton.

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"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:bqq85i$ikt$2@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> In article <vsuq4hj18hmfe6@corp.supernews.com>,
> "The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
> >
> >"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
> >news:bqnjba$e8j$17@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> >> In article <jitssv8suj0cd099p9hi10snvtjud3sfg9@4ax.com>,
> >> Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
> >> >On Wed, 03 Dec 03 10:53:28 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>>Explain then Lloyd why bus loads of Canadians with life threating
> >health
> >> >>>problems are forced to come to the USA for treatment at their own
> >expense.
> >> >>>Sure they can get free care in Canada, IF they can wait 6 months to
a
> >year
> >> >>>for treatment.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>Like asking why people travel to Mexico for Christmas trees. It
simply
> >does
> >> >>not happen.
> >> >>
> >> >>Read, for example,
> >> >>http://www.worldpolicy.org/globalrig...da-health.html
> >> >
> >> >Um, Lloyd...
> >> >Remember how you complain when we quote conservative sources?
> >> >
> >>
> >> Because CR is a consumer advocate group. Not liberal or conservative.
> >Now I
> >> know to you Taliban anybody to the left of Atilla the Hun is a liberal
if
> >not
> >> a socialist, but the rest of us aren't stupid like that.
> >
> >
> >They don't speak for any consumers I know. Consumer Reports is a joke,
used
> >by those people who lack the intelligence to invistigate an issue and
learn
> >the truth.
> >
> >
> Yeah, what else to expect of the mind-set that thinks Fox News is "fair
and
> balanced"?

I don't watch Fox news Loyd, why do you make up "facts" to support your
lies?

 

"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:bqq85i$ikt$2@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> In article <vsuq4hj18hmfe6@corp.supernews.com>,
> "The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
> >
> >"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
> >news:bqnjba$e8j$17@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> >> In article <jitssv8suj0cd099p9hi10snvtjud3sfg9@4ax.com>,
> >> Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
> >> >On Wed, 03 Dec 03 10:53:28 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>>Explain then Lloyd why bus loads of Canadians with life threating
> >health
> >> >>>problems are forced to come to the USA for treatment at their own
> >expense.
> >> >>>Sure they can get free care in Canada, IF they can wait 6 months to
a
> >year
> >> >>>for treatment.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>Like asking why people travel to Mexico for Christmas trees. It
simply
> >does
> >> >>not happen.
> >> >>
> >> >>Read, for example,
> >> >>http://www.worldpolicy.org/globalrig...da-health.html
> >> >
> >> >Um, Lloyd...
> >> >Remember how you complain when we quote conservative sources?
> >> >
> >>
> >> Because CR is a consumer advocate group. Not liberal or conservative.
> >Now I
> >> know to you Taliban anybody to the left of Atilla the Hun is a liberal
if
> >not
> >> a socialist, but the rest of us aren't stupid like that.
> >
> >
> >They don't speak for any consumers I know. Consumer Reports is a joke,
used
> >by those people who lack the intelligence to invistigate an issue and
learn
> >the truth.
> >
> >
> Yeah, what else to expect of the mind-set that thinks Fox News is "fair
and
> balanced"?

I don't watch Fox news Loyd, why do you make up "facts" to support your
lies?

 

"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:bqq85i$ikt$2@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> In article <vsuq4hj18hmfe6@corp.supernews.com>,
> "The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
> >
> >"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
> >news:bqnjba$e8j$17@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> >> In article <jitssv8suj0cd099p9hi10snvtjud3sfg9@4ax.com>,
> >> Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
> >> >On Wed, 03 Dec 03 10:53:28 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>>Explain then Lloyd why bus loads of Canadians with life threating
> >health
> >> >>>problems are forced to come to the USA for treatment at their own
> >expense.
> >> >>>Sure they can get free care in Canada, IF they can wait 6 months to
a
> >year
> >> >>>for treatment.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>Like asking why people travel to Mexico for Christmas trees. It
simply
> >does
> >> >>not happen.
> >> >>
> >> >>Read, for example,
> >> >>http://www.worldpolicy.org/globalrig...da-health.html
> >> >
> >> >Um, Lloyd...
> >> >Remember how you complain when we quote conservative sources?
> >> >
> >>
> >> Because CR is a consumer advocate group. Not liberal or conservative.
> >Now I
> >> know to you Taliban anybody to the left of Atilla the Hun is a liberal
if
> >not
> >> a socialist, but the rest of us aren't stupid like that.
> >
> >
> >They don't speak for any consumers I know. Consumer Reports is a joke,
used
> >by those people who lack the intelligence to invistigate an issue and
learn
> >the truth.
> >
> >
> Yeah, what else to expect of the mind-set that thinks Fox News is "fair
and
> balanced"?

I don't watch Fox news Loyd, why do you make up "facts" to support your
lies?

 

"Brandon Sommerville" <grimrod@mindless.com.gov> wrote in message
news:8170e4c810deaf732ac373b4a63f687c@news.teranew s.com...
> On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 17:33:26 GMT, "David J. Allen"
> <dallen03NO_SPAM@sanNO_SPAM.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >Having a little trouble understanding the argument Lloyd? Let me
clarify.
> >The gay activist agenda is to redefine and rebuild our whole social
> >structure to abstract out distinction between sexual preference.
>
> You keep mentioning this point. Why is this a problem?
>

For some things it matters. Marriage is one of them. Marriage has a
distinct value to society that would be diminished without it's focus on the
traditional family. Where would we go in the long run if we lost that?
Hard to say, but I believe it would be harmful. It's just my view though.


> >In doing
> >so, it has to redefine marriage from what it's been to what they want it
to
> >be. The method used is to call the "benefits" of marriage "civil
rights".
> >The error is that the benefits of marriage aren't there because society
> >thinks marrieds are more deserving or more equal or more anything to the
> >exclusion of unmarrieds. They are there to protect and nurture families,
> >especially those with a single wage earner and dependents. Marriage
> >wouldn't be something that the government would have an interest in
> >protecting otherwise. That's the point.
>
> So gay families with either adopted kids or kids from prior
> relationships don't count?

I'm not for gay adoption and kids from prior marriages don't mean anything
legally in a new marriage of any stripe. Step parents don't have any legal
obligations or rights to step children.

> --
> Brandon Sommerville
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>
> Definition of "Lottery":
> Millions of stupid people contributing
> to make one stupid person look smart.

 

"Brandon Sommerville" <grimrod@mindless.com.gov> wrote in message
news:8170e4c810deaf732ac373b4a63f687c@news.teranew s.com...
> On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 17:33:26 GMT, "David J. Allen"
> <dallen03NO_SPAM@sanNO_SPAM.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >Having a little trouble understanding the argument Lloyd? Let me
clarify.
> >The gay activist agenda is to redefine and rebuild our whole social
> >structure to abstract out distinction between sexual preference.
>
> You keep mentioning this point. Why is this a problem?
>

For some things it matters. Marriage is one of them. Marriage has a
distinct value to society that would be diminished without it's focus on the
traditional family. Where would we go in the long run if we lost that?
Hard to say, but I believe it would be harmful. It's just my view though.


> >In doing
> >so, it has to redefine marriage from what it's been to what they want it
to
> >be. The method used is to call the "benefits" of marriage "civil
rights".
> >The error is that the benefits of marriage aren't there because society
> >thinks marrieds are more deserving or more equal or more anything to the
> >exclusion of unmarrieds. They are there to protect and nurture families,
> >especially those with a single wage earner and dependents. Marriage
> >wouldn't be something that the government would have an interest in
> >protecting otherwise. That's the point.
>
> So gay families with either adopted kids or kids from prior
> relationships don't count?

I'm not for gay adoption and kids from prior marriages don't mean anything
legally in a new marriage of any stripe. Step parents don't have any legal
obligations or rights to step children.

> --
> Brandon Sommerville
> remove ".gov" to e-mail
>
> Definition of "Lottery":
> Millions of stupid people contributing
> to make one stupid person look smart.