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Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote in message news:<4tgpsv0qjj3fk9mq5t2goiuibmpnu8k64r@4ax.com>. ..
> On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 05:17:32 GMT, "David J. Allen"
> <dallen03NO_SPAM@sanNO_SPAM.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >Reminds me of my experience in a country a few years ago that had "free"
> >(i.e., rationed) medical care for all. The demand for care outstripped the
> >supply and the only people who got decent medical care were the people with
> >money, who could pay for a private doctor. Everyone else had to go wait in
> >line at the clinic and hope for decent care.
>
> Well, Hillary's solution would have fixed that; any doctor caught
> giving care outside the approved system would be liable to legal
> prosecution, with penalties including fines, jail time & loss of
> license.
> A true utopia.
Better now. Only doctors doing 'Partial Birth Abortions', whatever
those may be, get fines, jail time & loss of license. Much better.
> On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 05:17:32 GMT, "David J. Allen"
> <dallen03NO_SPAM@sanNO_SPAM.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >Reminds me of my experience in a country a few years ago that had "free"
> >(i.e., rationed) medical care for all. The demand for care outstripped the
> >supply and the only people who got decent medical care were the people with
> >money, who could pay for a private doctor. Everyone else had to go wait in
> >line at the clinic and hope for decent care.
>
> Well, Hillary's solution would have fixed that; any doctor caught
> giving care outside the approved system would be liable to legal
> prosecution, with penalties including fines, jail time & loss of
> license.
> A true utopia.
Better now. Only doctors doing 'Partial Birth Abortions', whatever
those may be, get fines, jail time & loss of license. Much better.
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Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote in message news:<4tgpsv0qjj3fk9mq5t2goiuibmpnu8k64r@4ax.com>. ..
> On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 05:17:32 GMT, "David J. Allen"
> <dallen03NO_SPAM@sanNO_SPAM.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >Reminds me of my experience in a country a few years ago that had "free"
> >(i.e., rationed) medical care for all. The demand for care outstripped the
> >supply and the only people who got decent medical care were the people with
> >money, who could pay for a private doctor. Everyone else had to go wait in
> >line at the clinic and hope for decent care.
>
> Well, Hillary's solution would have fixed that; any doctor caught
> giving care outside the approved system would be liable to legal
> prosecution, with penalties including fines, jail time & loss of
> license.
> A true utopia.
Better now. Only doctors doing 'Partial Birth Abortions', whatever
those may be, get fines, jail time & loss of license. Much better.
> On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 05:17:32 GMT, "David J. Allen"
> <dallen03NO_SPAM@sanNO_SPAM.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >Reminds me of my experience in a country a few years ago that had "free"
> >(i.e., rationed) medical care for all. The demand for care outstripped the
> >supply and the only people who got decent medical care were the people with
> >money, who could pay for a private doctor. Everyone else had to go wait in
> >line at the clinic and hope for decent care.
>
> Well, Hillary's solution would have fixed that; any doctor caught
> giving care outside the approved system would be liable to legal
> prosecution, with penalties including fines, jail time & loss of
> license.
> A true utopia.
Better now. Only doctors doing 'Partial Birth Abortions', whatever
those may be, get fines, jail time & loss of license. Much better.
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Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote in message news:<4tgpsv0qjj3fk9mq5t2goiuibmpnu8k64r@4ax.com>. ..
> On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 05:17:32 GMT, "David J. Allen"
> <dallen03NO_SPAM@sanNO_SPAM.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >Reminds me of my experience in a country a few years ago that had "free"
> >(i.e., rationed) medical care for all. The demand for care outstripped the
> >supply and the only people who got decent medical care were the people with
> >money, who could pay for a private doctor. Everyone else had to go wait in
> >line at the clinic and hope for decent care.
>
> Well, Hillary's solution would have fixed that; any doctor caught
> giving care outside the approved system would be liable to legal
> prosecution, with penalties including fines, jail time & loss of
> license.
> A true utopia.
Better now. Only doctors doing 'Partial Birth Abortions', whatever
those may be, get fines, jail time & loss of license. Much better.
> On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 05:17:32 GMT, "David J. Allen"
> <dallen03NO_SPAM@sanNO_SPAM.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >Reminds me of my experience in a country a few years ago that had "free"
> >(i.e., rationed) medical care for all. The demand for care outstripped the
> >supply and the only people who got decent medical care were the people with
> >money, who could pay for a private doctor. Everyone else had to go wait in
> >line at the clinic and hope for decent care.
>
> Well, Hillary's solution would have fixed that; any doctor caught
> giving care outside the approved system would be liable to legal
> prosecution, with penalties including fines, jail time & loss of
> license.
> A true utopia.
Better now. Only doctors doing 'Partial Birth Abortions', whatever
those may be, get fines, jail time & loss of license. Much better.
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On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, C. E. White wrote:
> Lloyd Parker wrote:
>> How about this? Marriage is a religious ceremony, performed by a
>> church; the government doesn't use the term "marriage" at all but
>> "civil unions" for all recognizied unions of 2 adults and grants the
>> same benefits to all of them.
> Sure, I can live with that.
Same here.
Now Lloyd, CEW and I have agreed on something, so I need to grab up some
canned food and bottled water and head into the fallout shelter. End times
are doubtless nigh.
DS
> Lloyd Parker wrote:
>> How about this? Marriage is a religious ceremony, performed by a
>> church; the government doesn't use the term "marriage" at all but
>> "civil unions" for all recognizied unions of 2 adults and grants the
>> same benefits to all of them.
> Sure, I can live with that.
Same here.
Now Lloyd, CEW and I have agreed on something, so I need to grab up some
canned food and bottled water and head into the fallout shelter. End times
are doubtless nigh.
DS
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On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, C. E. White wrote:
> Lloyd Parker wrote:
>> How about this? Marriage is a religious ceremony, performed by a
>> church; the government doesn't use the term "marriage" at all but
>> "civil unions" for all recognizied unions of 2 adults and grants the
>> same benefits to all of them.
> Sure, I can live with that.
Same here.
Now Lloyd, CEW and I have agreed on something, so I need to grab up some
canned food and bottled water and head into the fallout shelter. End times
are doubtless nigh.
DS
> Lloyd Parker wrote:
>> How about this? Marriage is a religious ceremony, performed by a
>> church; the government doesn't use the term "marriage" at all but
>> "civil unions" for all recognizied unions of 2 adults and grants the
>> same benefits to all of them.
> Sure, I can live with that.
Same here.
Now Lloyd, CEW and I have agreed on something, so I need to grab up some
canned food and bottled water and head into the fallout shelter. End times
are doubtless nigh.
DS
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On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, C. E. White wrote:
> Lloyd Parker wrote:
>> How about this? Marriage is a religious ceremony, performed by a
>> church; the government doesn't use the term "marriage" at all but
>> "civil unions" for all recognizied unions of 2 adults and grants the
>> same benefits to all of them.
> Sure, I can live with that.
Same here.
Now Lloyd, CEW and I have agreed on something, so I need to grab up some
canned food and bottled water and head into the fallout shelter. End times
are doubtless nigh.
DS
> Lloyd Parker wrote:
>> How about this? Marriage is a religious ceremony, performed by a
>> church; the government doesn't use the term "marriage" at all but
>> "civil unions" for all recognizied unions of 2 adults and grants the
>> same benefits to all of them.
> Sure, I can live with that.
Same here.
Now Lloyd, CEW and I have agreed on something, so I need to grab up some
canned food and bottled water and head into the fallout shelter. End times
are doubtless nigh.
DS
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On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:14:05 -0500, "Daniel J. Stern"
<dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, C. E. White wrote:
>
>> Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
>>> How about this? Marriage is a religious ceremony, performed by a
>>> church; the government doesn't use the term "marriage" at all but
>>> "civil unions" for all recognizied unions of 2 adults and grants the
>>> same benefits to all of them.
>
>> Sure, I can live with that.
>
>Same here.
>
>Now Lloyd, CEW and I have agreed on something, so I need to grab up some
>canned food and bottled water and head into the fallout shelter. End times
>are doubtless nigh.
Count me in too, I think I hear the horsemen...
--
Brandon Sommerville
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Definition of "Lottery":
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to make one stupid person look smart.
<dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, C. E. White wrote:
>
>> Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
>>> How about this? Marriage is a religious ceremony, performed by a
>>> church; the government doesn't use the term "marriage" at all but
>>> "civil unions" for all recognizied unions of 2 adults and grants the
>>> same benefits to all of them.
>
>> Sure, I can live with that.
>
>Same here.
>
>Now Lloyd, CEW and I have agreed on something, so I need to grab up some
>canned food and bottled water and head into the fallout shelter. End times
>are doubtless nigh.
Count me in too, I think I hear the horsemen...
--
Brandon Sommerville
remove ".gov" to e-mail
Definition of "Lottery":
Millions of stupid people contributing
to make one stupid person look smart.
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On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:14:05 -0500, "Daniel J. Stern"
<dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, C. E. White wrote:
>
>> Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
>>> How about this? Marriage is a religious ceremony, performed by a
>>> church; the government doesn't use the term "marriage" at all but
>>> "civil unions" for all recognizied unions of 2 adults and grants the
>>> same benefits to all of them.
>
>> Sure, I can live with that.
>
>Same here.
>
>Now Lloyd, CEW and I have agreed on something, so I need to grab up some
>canned food and bottled water and head into the fallout shelter. End times
>are doubtless nigh.
Count me in too, I think I hear the horsemen...
--
Brandon Sommerville
remove ".gov" to e-mail
Definition of "Lottery":
Millions of stupid people contributing
to make one stupid person look smart.
<dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, C. E. White wrote:
>
>> Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
>>> How about this? Marriage is a religious ceremony, performed by a
>>> church; the government doesn't use the term "marriage" at all but
>>> "civil unions" for all recognizied unions of 2 adults and grants the
>>> same benefits to all of them.
>
>> Sure, I can live with that.
>
>Same here.
>
>Now Lloyd, CEW and I have agreed on something, so I need to grab up some
>canned food and bottled water and head into the fallout shelter. End times
>are doubtless nigh.
Count me in too, I think I hear the horsemen...
--
Brandon Sommerville
remove ".gov" to e-mail
Definition of "Lottery":
Millions of stupid people contributing
to make one stupid person look smart.
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On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:14:05 -0500, "Daniel J. Stern"
<dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, C. E. White wrote:
>
>> Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
>>> How about this? Marriage is a religious ceremony, performed by a
>>> church; the government doesn't use the term "marriage" at all but
>>> "civil unions" for all recognizied unions of 2 adults and grants the
>>> same benefits to all of them.
>
>> Sure, I can live with that.
>
>Same here.
>
>Now Lloyd, CEW and I have agreed on something, so I need to grab up some
>canned food and bottled water and head into the fallout shelter. End times
>are doubtless nigh.
Count me in too, I think I hear the horsemen...
--
Brandon Sommerville
remove ".gov" to e-mail
Definition of "Lottery":
Millions of stupid people contributing
to make one stupid person look smart.
<dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, C. E. White wrote:
>
>> Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
>>> How about this? Marriage is a religious ceremony, performed by a
>>> church; the government doesn't use the term "marriage" at all but
>>> "civil unions" for all recognizied unions of 2 adults and grants the
>>> same benefits to all of them.
>
>> Sure, I can live with that.
>
>Same here.
>
>Now Lloyd, CEW and I have agreed on something, so I need to grab up some
>canned food and bottled water and head into the fallout shelter. End times
>are doubtless nigh.
Count me in too, I think I hear the horsemen...
--
Brandon Sommerville
remove ".gov" to e-mail
Definition of "Lottery":
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In article <7dc396f584336d32b246a944411c15de@news.teranews.co m>,
Brandon Sommerville <grimrod@mindless.com.gov> wrote:
>
>It's not quite that simple. If you need a procedure, they evaluate
>how urgent it is. If it's extremely urgent you get bumped to the top
>of the list. If it's not so urgent, you get on the waiting list and
>get done after others who have been waiting longer are processed. If
>you don't want to wait and can afford it, you go to somewhere that you
>can pay for the procedure, which is down south. A great system if
>you're wealthy.
>
>I know that no matter what happens, if I blow out my knee I'm going to
>get an MRI. It may take 8 weeks, but I'll get it and it won't cost me
>anything extra. Can you say the same thing?
Not exactly. In my case (hip rather than knee, but same idea), it was
same day (first MRI) and later in the week (second MRI) and it still
didn't cost me anything extra. There was no urgency in the medical
sense. The more complex MRA did take a month, because it had to be
scheduled with both the radiology department and the MRI center. No
rationing involved.
--
Matthew T. Russotto mrussotto@speakeasy.net
"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit
of justice is no virtue." But extreme restriction of liberty in pursuit of
a modicum of security is a very expensive vice.
Brandon Sommerville <grimrod@mindless.com.gov> wrote:
>
>It's not quite that simple. If you need a procedure, they evaluate
>how urgent it is. If it's extremely urgent you get bumped to the top
>of the list. If it's not so urgent, you get on the waiting list and
>get done after others who have been waiting longer are processed. If
>you don't want to wait and can afford it, you go to somewhere that you
>can pay for the procedure, which is down south. A great system if
>you're wealthy.
>
>I know that no matter what happens, if I blow out my knee I'm going to
>get an MRI. It may take 8 weeks, but I'll get it and it won't cost me
>anything extra. Can you say the same thing?
Not exactly. In my case (hip rather than knee, but same idea), it was
same day (first MRI) and later in the week (second MRI) and it still
didn't cost me anything extra. There was no urgency in the medical
sense. The more complex MRA did take a month, because it had to be
scheduled with both the radiology department and the MRI center. No
rationing involved.
--
Matthew T. Russotto mrussotto@speakeasy.net
"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit
of justice is no virtue." But extreme restriction of liberty in pursuit of
a modicum of security is a very expensive vice.


