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Re: Hey Ya'll!
Just when off-road.
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"Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
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> So long as I know it's supposed to be that way, I'm ok with it.
> I knew there would be concessions.
>
> The disconnects, do you just disconnect and leave it that way or only when
> you are off road. This is a whole new thing to me
> --
> Kate
> 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
>
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:323fb$4324fc7c$d8449845$13164@FUSE.NET...
> : Kate,
> :
> : It is a Jeep thing AND you are expecting too much. When I went from an
> A6
> to
> : a WJ is was culture shock in the handling department. You can't take
> : off-ramps at 70 mph anymore.
> :
> : I'm not sure about the amount of increased articulation you can get with
> the
> : disconnects on a KJ. I think Bill has more of the information on that.
> :
> : --
> : .
> : Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> : 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> : Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> : Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> : .
> : "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> : news:266Ve.11146$FW1.2884@newsread3.news.atl.earth link.net...
> : >
> : >
> : >
> : > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> : > news:b859a$4324ae21$d8449845$26172@FUSE.NET...
> : > : Kate,
> : > :
> : > : Which Goodyear tires did you get? I am guessing Wrangler HPs which
> are
> : > a
> : > : ..... fair ... street tire but you won't be getting too far off-road
> : > with
> : > : those.
> : > :
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS
> : >
> : > You guessed right. They seem to wander, or is it a Jeep thing, that I
> : > wouldn't understand ?
> : > My 1st CJ wandered like a drunken indian and I may be too used to the
> : > super
> : > tight suspension on my Cobra but this little thing seems a wee bit
> loose.
> : >
> : > :
> : > : The MT/Rs that Carl mentioned are off-road mud tires and it sounds
> like
> : > you
> : > : would have little need for them.
> : > :
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORMT
> : >
> : > Actually, I have this thing about mud. I have always liked to play in
> it
> : > BUT
> : > for now, I ahve what I have.... well, that and a AAA card if I don't
> go
> : > out
> : > too far I guess LOL
> : >
> : > :
> : > : If possible you might see if you can get the dealer to swap you a
> set
> of
> : > All
> : > : Terrain tires. They all have a deal with a local tire company
> although
> : > the
> : > : swapping is easier done before the sales papers are signed. At the
> very
> : > : least the ATs will give you better winter performance.
> : > :
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORAT
> : >
> : > Somehow, I doubt it BUTm you never know, I suppose I could ask.
> : >
> : > :
> : > : Everyone has their own favorite tire manufacturer, BFG is popular
> here
> : > but
> : > : not universal (I have Kumho Venture AT-825s on my Grand Cherokee,
> see
> : > chart
> : > : above)
> : >
> : > The last set I had on my Cobra were Kuhmos.
> : > I was not all that happy with them. Seemed to need rebalancing all the
> : > time
> : >
> : > : Depending on how high you lift your Liberty you might need new
> (longer)
> : > : shocks or shock extensions.
> : >
> : > Gotcha
> : >
> : > :
> : > : The 'discos' are sway bar disconnects. You need to disconnect the
> sway
> : > bar
> : > : for full articulation off-road but you don't sound to be planning
> that
> : > : either.
> : >
> : > I might, you just never know. Better to have it and not need it than
> the
> : > other way around.
> : >
> : >
> : > : A towing point front and rear is important off-road so if you get
> stuck
> : > : someone can pull you out without endangering your axles or body.
> (The
> : > KJ's
> : > : not yours) A trailer receiver counts as a rear tow point and allows
> the
> : > : addition of additional carriers, etc. that may be of interest now or
> in
> : > the
> : > : future. If money is a consideration you only 'need' one tow hook in
> the
> : > : front.
> : >
> : > As far as I know, I did not win the lottery on Saturday night SOoooooo
> : > yes,
> : > money will be an object.
> : > One thing at a time.
> : >
> : > :
> : > : Take a look at Bill's video. The KJ got stuck because of design
> : > limitations
> : > : and driver inexperience. The passenger rear tire spun because it
> had
> : > little
> : > : traction and the standard differential will allow the tire with less
> : > : traction to spin freely and the tire with traction to remain still.
> You
> : > can
> : > : 'remedy' the open differential by applying the brakes while giving
> it
> : > gas.
> : > : The resistance from the brake will often trick the differential into
> : > : thinking both tires have equal traction. If you were just ordering
> the
> : > KJ
> : > : now you could add the posi-traction option that does this
> automatically.
> : > It
> : > : is not as good as a true 'locker' but is much better than nothing.
> The
> : > : driver should also have been further to the left, ALWAYS select your
> : > line
> : > : when given the chance.
> : > :
> : > : While you are at it get a set of substantial rubber floor mats to
> : > replace
> : > : the carpeted ones that came from the factory. Your KJ isn't like
> your
> : > old
> : > : CJ where you could just go to the carwash with the top off to clean
> the
> : > : interior.
> : >
> : > Those were the days aye!
> : > Rubber mats. Yup, for mess making that would be the thing to have.
> Good
> : > idear ya got there.
> : >
> : > :
> : > : I am not sure how many people in this newsgroup have experience with
> the
> : > 3.7
> : > : liter V-6 engine as it is fairly new but I am sure some of them know
> : > where
> : > : to look and call for good information
> : >
> : > I have spent a little time googling the Liberty, have not found much
> out
> : > there yet.
> : >
> : > Thanks for the input!
> : >
> : >
> : > Kate
> : > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
> : >
> : > :
> : > :
> : > : --
> : > : .
> : > : Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> : > : 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> : > : Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> : > : Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> : > : .
> : > : "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> : > : news:cW0Ve.10427$_84.5306@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> : > : > news:-NadnRrRZM3U0rneRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> : > : > : 2" Spacer lift,
> : > : >
> : > : > Ok, then I will need steps, cause I am not that tall, but that's
> ok!
> : > : >
> : > : > new shocks,
> : > : > but, but, but these ARE new.
> : > : > Why do you say that AND what setup do you think is good and why?
> : > : >
> : > : > sway bar discos
> : > : > HUH ?? I know what a sway bar is, but I thought disco was dead!
> : > : >
> : > : > and a set of Goodyear MT/R's,
> : > : > I have GoodYear tires on it now, why the MTRs ?
> : > : >
> : > : > : you'll do OK.
> : > : > Thanks!
> : > : > :ŹD
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : > --
> : > : > Kate
> : > : > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
> : > : >
> : > : > :
> : > : > : Carl
> : > : > :
> : > : > : "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> : > : > : news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> : > : > : > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
> : > : > : > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of
> years
> : > : > though.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98
> Cobra
> : > drop
> : > : > top
> : > : > : > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
> : > : > : > I traded in my California car for something more regionally
> : > correct.
> : > : > : > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter
> for
> : > a
> : > : > bit
> : > : > : but
> : > : > : > I will get used to it.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the
> : > Liberty
> : > : > for
> : > : > : > comfort, style and versitility.
> : > : > : > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option -
> Mud
> : > and
> : > : > doing
> : > : > : > some exploring.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing
> with
> : > their
> : > : > : > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out
> and
> : > go
> : > : > : > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > Oh!
> : > : > : > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken,
> : > opinionated,
> : > : > Irish
> : > : > : > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually
> a
> : > : > : republican.
> : > : > : > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and
> : > sport
> : > : > and
> : > : > : > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > --
> : > : > : > Kate
> : > : > : > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : >
> : > : > :
> : > : > :
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > :
> : > :
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
>
>
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Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
news:xUdVe.10620$9i4.5952@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
> So long as I know it's supposed to be that way, I'm ok with it.
> I knew there would be concessions.
>
> The disconnects, do you just disconnect and leave it that way or only when
> you are off road. This is a whole new thing to me
> --
> Kate
> 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
>
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:323fb$4324fc7c$d8449845$13164@FUSE.NET...
> : Kate,
> :
> : It is a Jeep thing AND you are expecting too much. When I went from an
> A6
> to
> : a WJ is was culture shock in the handling department. You can't take
> : off-ramps at 70 mph anymore.
> :
> : I'm not sure about the amount of increased articulation you can get with
> the
> : disconnects on a KJ. I think Bill has more of the information on that.
> :
> : --
> : .
> : Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> : 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> : Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> : Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> : .
> : "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> : news:266Ve.11146$FW1.2884@newsread3.news.atl.earth link.net...
> : >
> : >
> : >
> : > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> : > news:b859a$4324ae21$d8449845$26172@FUSE.NET...
> : > : Kate,
> : > :
> : > : Which Goodyear tires did you get? I am guessing Wrangler HPs which
> are
> : > a
> : > : ..... fair ... street tire but you won't be getting too far off-road
> : > with
> : > : those.
> : > :
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS
> : >
> : > You guessed right. They seem to wander, or is it a Jeep thing, that I
> : > wouldn't understand ?
> : > My 1st CJ wandered like a drunken indian and I may be too used to the
> : > super
> : > tight suspension on my Cobra but this little thing seems a wee bit
> loose.
> : >
> : > :
> : > : The MT/Rs that Carl mentioned are off-road mud tires and it sounds
> like
> : > you
> : > : would have little need for them.
> : > :
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORMT
> : >
> : > Actually, I have this thing about mud. I have always liked to play in
> it
> : > BUT
> : > for now, I ahve what I have.... well, that and a AAA card if I don't
> go
> : > out
> : > too far I guess LOL
> : >
> : > :
> : > : If possible you might see if you can get the dealer to swap you a
> set
> of
> : > All
> : > : Terrain tires. They all have a deal with a local tire company
> although
> : > the
> : > : swapping is easier done before the sales papers are signed. At the
> very
> : > : least the ATs will give you better winter performance.
> : > :
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORAT
> : >
> : > Somehow, I doubt it BUTm you never know, I suppose I could ask.
> : >
> : > :
> : > : Everyone has their own favorite tire manufacturer, BFG is popular
> here
> : > but
> : > : not universal (I have Kumho Venture AT-825s on my Grand Cherokee,
> see
> : > chart
> : > : above)
> : >
> : > The last set I had on my Cobra were Kuhmos.
> : > I was not all that happy with them. Seemed to need rebalancing all the
> : > time
> : >
> : > : Depending on how high you lift your Liberty you might need new
> (longer)
> : > : shocks or shock extensions.
> : >
> : > Gotcha
> : >
> : > :
> : > : The 'discos' are sway bar disconnects. You need to disconnect the
> sway
> : > bar
> : > : for full articulation off-road but you don't sound to be planning
> that
> : > : either.
> : >
> : > I might, you just never know. Better to have it and not need it than
> the
> : > other way around.
> : >
> : >
> : > : A towing point front and rear is important off-road so if you get
> stuck
> : > : someone can pull you out without endangering your axles or body.
> (The
> : > KJ's
> : > : not yours) A trailer receiver counts as a rear tow point and allows
> the
> : > : addition of additional carriers, etc. that may be of interest now or
> in
> : > the
> : > : future. If money is a consideration you only 'need' one tow hook in
> the
> : > : front.
> : >
> : > As far as I know, I did not win the lottery on Saturday night SOoooooo
> : > yes,
> : > money will be an object.
> : > One thing at a time.
> : >
> : > :
> : > : Take a look at Bill's video. The KJ got stuck because of design
> : > limitations
> : > : and driver inexperience. The passenger rear tire spun because it
> had
> : > little
> : > : traction and the standard differential will allow the tire with less
> : > : traction to spin freely and the tire with traction to remain still.
> You
> : > can
> : > : 'remedy' the open differential by applying the brakes while giving
> it
> : > gas.
> : > : The resistance from the brake will often trick the differential into
> : > : thinking both tires have equal traction. If you were just ordering
> the
> : > KJ
> : > : now you could add the posi-traction option that does this
> automatically.
> : > It
> : > : is not as good as a true 'locker' but is much better than nothing.
> The
> : > : driver should also have been further to the left, ALWAYS select your
> : > line
> : > : when given the chance.
> : > :
> : > : While you are at it get a set of substantial rubber floor mats to
> : > replace
> : > : the carpeted ones that came from the factory. Your KJ isn't like
> your
> : > old
> : > : CJ where you could just go to the carwash with the top off to clean
> the
> : > : interior.
> : >
> : > Those were the days aye!
> : > Rubber mats. Yup, for mess making that would be the thing to have.
> Good
> : > idear ya got there.
> : >
> : > :
> : > : I am not sure how many people in this newsgroup have experience with
> the
> : > 3.7
> : > : liter V-6 engine as it is fairly new but I am sure some of them know
> : > where
> : > : to look and call for good information
> : >
> : > I have spent a little time googling the Liberty, have not found much
> out
> : > there yet.
> : >
> : > Thanks for the input!
> : >
> : >
> : > Kate
> : > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
> : >
> : > :
> : > :
> : > : --
> : > : .
> : > : Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> : > : 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> : > : Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> : > : Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> : > : .
> : > : "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> : > : news:cW0Ve.10427$_84.5306@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> : > : > news:-NadnRrRZM3U0rneRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> : > : > : 2" Spacer lift,
> : > : >
> : > : > Ok, then I will need steps, cause I am not that tall, but that's
> ok!
> : > : >
> : > : > new shocks,
> : > : > but, but, but these ARE new.
> : > : > Why do you say that AND what setup do you think is good and why?
> : > : >
> : > : > sway bar discos
> : > : > HUH ?? I know what a sway bar is, but I thought disco was dead!
> : > : >
> : > : > and a set of Goodyear MT/R's,
> : > : > I have GoodYear tires on it now, why the MTRs ?
> : > : >
> : > : > : you'll do OK.
> : > : > Thanks!
> : > : > :ŹD
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : > --
> : > : > Kate
> : > : > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
> : > : >
> : > : > :
> : > : > : Carl
> : > : > :
> : > : > : "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> : > : > : news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> : > : > : > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
> : > : > : > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of
> years
> : > : > though.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98
> Cobra
> : > drop
> : > : > top
> : > : > : > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
> : > : > : > I traded in my California car for something more regionally
> : > correct.
> : > : > : > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter
> for
> : > a
> : > : > bit
> : > : > : but
> : > : > : > I will get used to it.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the
> : > Liberty
> : > : > for
> : > : > : > comfort, style and versitility.
> : > : > : > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option -
> Mud
> : > and
> : > : > doing
> : > : > : > some exploring.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing
> with
> : > their
> : > : > : > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out
> and
> : > go
> : > : > : > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > Oh!
> : > : > : > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken,
> : > opinionated,
> : > : > Irish
> : > : > : > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually
> a
> : > : > : republican.
> : > : > : > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and
> : > sport
> : > : > and
> : > : > : > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > --
> : > : > : > Kate
> : > : > : > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : >
> : > : > :
> : > : > :
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > :
> : > :
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
>
>
#172
Guest
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Re: Hey Ya'll!
Just when off-road.
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Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
news:xUdVe.10620$9i4.5952@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
> So long as I know it's supposed to be that way, I'm ok with it.
> I knew there would be concessions.
>
> The disconnects, do you just disconnect and leave it that way or only when
> you are off road. This is a whole new thing to me
> --
> Kate
> 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
>
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:323fb$4324fc7c$d8449845$13164@FUSE.NET...
> : Kate,
> :
> : It is a Jeep thing AND you are expecting too much. When I went from an
> A6
> to
> : a WJ is was culture shock in the handling department. You can't take
> : off-ramps at 70 mph anymore.
> :
> : I'm not sure about the amount of increased articulation you can get with
> the
> : disconnects on a KJ. I think Bill has more of the information on that.
> :
> : --
> : .
> : Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> : 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> : Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> : Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> : .
> : "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> : news:266Ve.11146$FW1.2884@newsread3.news.atl.earth link.net...
> : >
> : >
> : >
> : > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> : > news:b859a$4324ae21$d8449845$26172@FUSE.NET...
> : > : Kate,
> : > :
> : > : Which Goodyear tires did you get? I am guessing Wrangler HPs which
> are
> : > a
> : > : ..... fair ... street tire but you won't be getting too far off-road
> : > with
> : > : those.
> : > :
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS
> : >
> : > You guessed right. They seem to wander, or is it a Jeep thing, that I
> : > wouldn't understand ?
> : > My 1st CJ wandered like a drunken indian and I may be too used to the
> : > super
> : > tight suspension on my Cobra but this little thing seems a wee bit
> loose.
> : >
> : > :
> : > : The MT/Rs that Carl mentioned are off-road mud tires and it sounds
> like
> : > you
> : > : would have little need for them.
> : > :
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORMT
> : >
> : > Actually, I have this thing about mud. I have always liked to play in
> it
> : > BUT
> : > for now, I ahve what I have.... well, that and a AAA card if I don't
> go
> : > out
> : > too far I guess LOL
> : >
> : > :
> : > : If possible you might see if you can get the dealer to swap you a
> set
> of
> : > All
> : > : Terrain tires. They all have a deal with a local tire company
> although
> : > the
> : > : swapping is easier done before the sales papers are signed. At the
> very
> : > : least the ATs will give you better winter performance.
> : > :
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORAT
> : >
> : > Somehow, I doubt it BUTm you never know, I suppose I could ask.
> : >
> : > :
> : > : Everyone has their own favorite tire manufacturer, BFG is popular
> here
> : > but
> : > : not universal (I have Kumho Venture AT-825s on my Grand Cherokee,
> see
> : > chart
> : > : above)
> : >
> : > The last set I had on my Cobra were Kuhmos.
> : > I was not all that happy with them. Seemed to need rebalancing all the
> : > time
> : >
> : > : Depending on how high you lift your Liberty you might need new
> (longer)
> : > : shocks or shock extensions.
> : >
> : > Gotcha
> : >
> : > :
> : > : The 'discos' are sway bar disconnects. You need to disconnect the
> sway
> : > bar
> : > : for full articulation off-road but you don't sound to be planning
> that
> : > : either.
> : >
> : > I might, you just never know. Better to have it and not need it than
> the
> : > other way around.
> : >
> : >
> : > : A towing point front and rear is important off-road so if you get
> stuck
> : > : someone can pull you out without endangering your axles or body.
> (The
> : > KJ's
> : > : not yours) A trailer receiver counts as a rear tow point and allows
> the
> : > : addition of additional carriers, etc. that may be of interest now or
> in
> : > the
> : > : future. If money is a consideration you only 'need' one tow hook in
> the
> : > : front.
> : >
> : > As far as I know, I did not win the lottery on Saturday night SOoooooo
> : > yes,
> : > money will be an object.
> : > One thing at a time.
> : >
> : > :
> : > : Take a look at Bill's video. The KJ got stuck because of design
> : > limitations
> : > : and driver inexperience. The passenger rear tire spun because it
> had
> : > little
> : > : traction and the standard differential will allow the tire with less
> : > : traction to spin freely and the tire with traction to remain still.
> You
> : > can
> : > : 'remedy' the open differential by applying the brakes while giving
> it
> : > gas.
> : > : The resistance from the brake will often trick the differential into
> : > : thinking both tires have equal traction. If you were just ordering
> the
> : > KJ
> : > : now you could add the posi-traction option that does this
> automatically.
> : > It
> : > : is not as good as a true 'locker' but is much better than nothing.
> The
> : > : driver should also have been further to the left, ALWAYS select your
> : > line
> : > : when given the chance.
> : > :
> : > : While you are at it get a set of substantial rubber floor mats to
> : > replace
> : > : the carpeted ones that came from the factory. Your KJ isn't like
> your
> : > old
> : > : CJ where you could just go to the carwash with the top off to clean
> the
> : > : interior.
> : >
> : > Those were the days aye!
> : > Rubber mats. Yup, for mess making that would be the thing to have.
> Good
> : > idear ya got there.
> : >
> : > :
> : > : I am not sure how many people in this newsgroup have experience with
> the
> : > 3.7
> : > : liter V-6 engine as it is fairly new but I am sure some of them know
> : > where
> : > : to look and call for good information
> : >
> : > I have spent a little time googling the Liberty, have not found much
> out
> : > there yet.
> : >
> : > Thanks for the input!
> : >
> : >
> : > Kate
> : > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
> : >
> : > :
> : > :
> : > : --
> : > : .
> : > : Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> : > : 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> : > : Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> : > : Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> : > : .
> : > : "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> : > : news:cW0Ve.10427$_84.5306@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> : > : > news:-NadnRrRZM3U0rneRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> : > : > : 2" Spacer lift,
> : > : >
> : > : > Ok, then I will need steps, cause I am not that tall, but that's
> ok!
> : > : >
> : > : > new shocks,
> : > : > but, but, but these ARE new.
> : > : > Why do you say that AND what setup do you think is good and why?
> : > : >
> : > : > sway bar discos
> : > : > HUH ?? I know what a sway bar is, but I thought disco was dead!
> : > : >
> : > : > and a set of Goodyear MT/R's,
> : > : > I have GoodYear tires on it now, why the MTRs ?
> : > : >
> : > : > : you'll do OK.
> : > : > Thanks!
> : > : > :ŹD
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : > --
> : > : > Kate
> : > : > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
> : > : >
> : > : > :
> : > : > : Carl
> : > : > :
> : > : > : "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> : > : > : news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> : > : > : > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
> : > : > : > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of
> years
> : > : > though.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98
> Cobra
> : > drop
> : > : > top
> : > : > : > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
> : > : > : > I traded in my California car for something more regionally
> : > correct.
> : > : > : > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter
> for
> : > a
> : > : > bit
> : > : > : but
> : > : > : > I will get used to it.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the
> : > Liberty
> : > : > for
> : > : > : > comfort, style and versitility.
> : > : > : > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option -
> Mud
> : > and
> : > : > doing
> : > : > : > some exploring.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing
> with
> : > their
> : > : > : > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out
> and
> : > go
> : > : > : > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > Oh!
> : > : > : > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken,
> : > opinionated,
> : > : > Irish
> : > : > : > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually
> a
> : > : > : republican.
> : > : > : > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and
> : > sport
> : > : > and
> : > : > : > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > --
> : > : > : > Kate
> : > : > : > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : >
> : > : > :
> : > : > :
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > :
> : > :
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
>
>
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
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..
"Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
news:xUdVe.10620$9i4.5952@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
> So long as I know it's supposed to be that way, I'm ok with it.
> I knew there would be concessions.
>
> The disconnects, do you just disconnect and leave it that way or only when
> you are off road. This is a whole new thing to me
> --
> Kate
> 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
>
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:323fb$4324fc7c$d8449845$13164@FUSE.NET...
> : Kate,
> :
> : It is a Jeep thing AND you are expecting too much. When I went from an
> A6
> to
> : a WJ is was culture shock in the handling department. You can't take
> : off-ramps at 70 mph anymore.
> :
> : I'm not sure about the amount of increased articulation you can get with
> the
> : disconnects on a KJ. I think Bill has more of the information on that.
> :
> : --
> : .
> : Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> : 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> : Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> : Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> : .
> : "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> : news:266Ve.11146$FW1.2884@newsread3.news.atl.earth link.net...
> : >
> : >
> : >
> : > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> : > news:b859a$4324ae21$d8449845$26172@FUSE.NET...
> : > : Kate,
> : > :
> : > : Which Goodyear tires did you get? I am guessing Wrangler HPs which
> are
> : > a
> : > : ..... fair ... street tire but you won't be getting too far off-road
> : > with
> : > : those.
> : > :
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS
> : >
> : > You guessed right. They seem to wander, or is it a Jeep thing, that I
> : > wouldn't understand ?
> : > My 1st CJ wandered like a drunken indian and I may be too used to the
> : > super
> : > tight suspension on my Cobra but this little thing seems a wee bit
> loose.
> : >
> : > :
> : > : The MT/Rs that Carl mentioned are off-road mud tires and it sounds
> like
> : > you
> : > : would have little need for them.
> : > :
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORMT
> : >
> : > Actually, I have this thing about mud. I have always liked to play in
> it
> : > BUT
> : > for now, I ahve what I have.... well, that and a AAA card if I don't
> go
> : > out
> : > too far I guess LOL
> : >
> : > :
> : > : If possible you might see if you can get the dealer to swap you a
> set
> of
> : > All
> : > : Terrain tires. They all have a deal with a local tire company
> although
> : > the
> : > : swapping is easier done before the sales papers are signed. At the
> very
> : > : least the ATs will give you better winter performance.
> : > :
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORAT
> : >
> : > Somehow, I doubt it BUTm you never know, I suppose I could ask.
> : >
> : > :
> : > : Everyone has their own favorite tire manufacturer, BFG is popular
> here
> : > but
> : > : not universal (I have Kumho Venture AT-825s on my Grand Cherokee,
> see
> : > chart
> : > : above)
> : >
> : > The last set I had on my Cobra were Kuhmos.
> : > I was not all that happy with them. Seemed to need rebalancing all the
> : > time
> : >
> : > : Depending on how high you lift your Liberty you might need new
> (longer)
> : > : shocks or shock extensions.
> : >
> : > Gotcha
> : >
> : > :
> : > : The 'discos' are sway bar disconnects. You need to disconnect the
> sway
> : > bar
> : > : for full articulation off-road but you don't sound to be planning
> that
> : > : either.
> : >
> : > I might, you just never know. Better to have it and not need it than
> the
> : > other way around.
> : >
> : >
> : > : A towing point front and rear is important off-road so if you get
> stuck
> : > : someone can pull you out without endangering your axles or body.
> (The
> : > KJ's
> : > : not yours) A trailer receiver counts as a rear tow point and allows
> the
> : > : addition of additional carriers, etc. that may be of interest now or
> in
> : > the
> : > : future. If money is a consideration you only 'need' one tow hook in
> the
> : > : front.
> : >
> : > As far as I know, I did not win the lottery on Saturday night SOoooooo
> : > yes,
> : > money will be an object.
> : > One thing at a time.
> : >
> : > :
> : > : Take a look at Bill's video. The KJ got stuck because of design
> : > limitations
> : > : and driver inexperience. The passenger rear tire spun because it
> had
> : > little
> : > : traction and the standard differential will allow the tire with less
> : > : traction to spin freely and the tire with traction to remain still.
> You
> : > can
> : > : 'remedy' the open differential by applying the brakes while giving
> it
> : > gas.
> : > : The resistance from the brake will often trick the differential into
> : > : thinking both tires have equal traction. If you were just ordering
> the
> : > KJ
> : > : now you could add the posi-traction option that does this
> automatically.
> : > It
> : > : is not as good as a true 'locker' but is much better than nothing.
> The
> : > : driver should also have been further to the left, ALWAYS select your
> : > line
> : > : when given the chance.
> : > :
> : > : While you are at it get a set of substantial rubber floor mats to
> : > replace
> : > : the carpeted ones that came from the factory. Your KJ isn't like
> your
> : > old
> : > : CJ where you could just go to the carwash with the top off to clean
> the
> : > : interior.
> : >
> : > Those were the days aye!
> : > Rubber mats. Yup, for mess making that would be the thing to have.
> Good
> : > idear ya got there.
> : >
> : > :
> : > : I am not sure how many people in this newsgroup have experience with
> the
> : > 3.7
> : > : liter V-6 engine as it is fairly new but I am sure some of them know
> : > where
> : > : to look and call for good information
> : >
> : > I have spent a little time googling the Liberty, have not found much
> out
> : > there yet.
> : >
> : > Thanks for the input!
> : >
> : >
> : > Kate
> : > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
> : >
> : > :
> : > :
> : > : --
> : > : .
> : > : Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> : > : 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> : > : Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> : > : Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> : > : .
> : > : "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> : > : news:cW0Ve.10427$_84.5306@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> : > : > news:-NadnRrRZM3U0rneRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> : > : > : 2" Spacer lift,
> : > : >
> : > : > Ok, then I will need steps, cause I am not that tall, but that's
> ok!
> : > : >
> : > : > new shocks,
> : > : > but, but, but these ARE new.
> : > : > Why do you say that AND what setup do you think is good and why?
> : > : >
> : > : > sway bar discos
> : > : > HUH ?? I know what a sway bar is, but I thought disco was dead!
> : > : >
> : > : > and a set of Goodyear MT/R's,
> : > : > I have GoodYear tires on it now, why the MTRs ?
> : > : >
> : > : > : you'll do OK.
> : > : > Thanks!
> : > : > :ŹD
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : > --
> : > : > Kate
> : > : > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
> : > : >
> : > : > :
> : > : > : Carl
> : > : > :
> : > : > : "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> : > : > : news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> : > : > : > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
> : > : > : > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of
> years
> : > : > though.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98
> Cobra
> : > drop
> : > : > top
> : > : > : > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
> : > : > : > I traded in my California car for something more regionally
> : > correct.
> : > : > : > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter
> for
> : > a
> : > : > bit
> : > : > : but
> : > : > : > I will get used to it.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the
> : > Liberty
> : > : > for
> : > : > : > comfort, style and versitility.
> : > : > : > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option -
> Mud
> : > and
> : > : > doing
> : > : > : > some exploring.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing
> with
> : > their
> : > : > : > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out
> and
> : > go
> : > : > : > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > Oh!
> : > : > : > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken,
> : > opinionated,
> : > : > Irish
> : > : > : > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually
> a
> : > : > : republican.
> : > : > : > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and
> : > sport
> : > : > and
> : > : > : > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > --
> : > : > : > Kate
> : > : > : > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : >
> : > : > :
> : > : > :
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > :
> : > :
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
>
>
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Re: Hey Ya'll!
Just when off-road.
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
news:xUdVe.10620$9i4.5952@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
> So long as I know it's supposed to be that way, I'm ok with it.
> I knew there would be concessions.
>
> The disconnects, do you just disconnect and leave it that way or only when
> you are off road. This is a whole new thing to me
> --
> Kate
> 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
>
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:323fb$4324fc7c$d8449845$13164@FUSE.NET...
> : Kate,
> :
> : It is a Jeep thing AND you are expecting too much. When I went from an
> A6
> to
> : a WJ is was culture shock in the handling department. You can't take
> : off-ramps at 70 mph anymore.
> :
> : I'm not sure about the amount of increased articulation you can get with
> the
> : disconnects on a KJ. I think Bill has more of the information on that.
> :
> : --
> : .
> : Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> : 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> : Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> : Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> : .
> : "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> : news:266Ve.11146$FW1.2884@newsread3.news.atl.earth link.net...
> : >
> : >
> : >
> : > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> : > news:b859a$4324ae21$d8449845$26172@FUSE.NET...
> : > : Kate,
> : > :
> : > : Which Goodyear tires did you get? I am guessing Wrangler HPs which
> are
> : > a
> : > : ..... fair ... street tire but you won't be getting too far off-road
> : > with
> : > : those.
> : > :
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS
> : >
> : > You guessed right. They seem to wander, or is it a Jeep thing, that I
> : > wouldn't understand ?
> : > My 1st CJ wandered like a drunken indian and I may be too used to the
> : > super
> : > tight suspension on my Cobra but this little thing seems a wee bit
> loose.
> : >
> : > :
> : > : The MT/Rs that Carl mentioned are off-road mud tires and it sounds
> like
> : > you
> : > : would have little need for them.
> : > :
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORMT
> : >
> : > Actually, I have this thing about mud. I have always liked to play in
> it
> : > BUT
> : > for now, I ahve what I have.... well, that and a AAA card if I don't
> go
> : > out
> : > too far I guess LOL
> : >
> : > :
> : > : If possible you might see if you can get the dealer to swap you a
> set
> of
> : > All
> : > : Terrain tires. They all have a deal with a local tire company
> although
> : > the
> : > : swapping is easier done before the sales papers are signed. At the
> very
> : > : least the ATs will give you better winter performance.
> : > :
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORAT
> : >
> : > Somehow, I doubt it BUTm you never know, I suppose I could ask.
> : >
> : > :
> : > : Everyone has their own favorite tire manufacturer, BFG is popular
> here
> : > but
> : > : not universal (I have Kumho Venture AT-825s on my Grand Cherokee,
> see
> : > chart
> : > : above)
> : >
> : > The last set I had on my Cobra were Kuhmos.
> : > I was not all that happy with them. Seemed to need rebalancing all the
> : > time
> : >
> : > : Depending on how high you lift your Liberty you might need new
> (longer)
> : > : shocks or shock extensions.
> : >
> : > Gotcha
> : >
> : > :
> : > : The 'discos' are sway bar disconnects. You need to disconnect the
> sway
> : > bar
> : > : for full articulation off-road but you don't sound to be planning
> that
> : > : either.
> : >
> : > I might, you just never know. Better to have it and not need it than
> the
> : > other way around.
> : >
> : >
> : > : A towing point front and rear is important off-road so if you get
> stuck
> : > : someone can pull you out without endangering your axles or body.
> (The
> : > KJ's
> : > : not yours) A trailer receiver counts as a rear tow point and allows
> the
> : > : addition of additional carriers, etc. that may be of interest now or
> in
> : > the
> : > : future. If money is a consideration you only 'need' one tow hook in
> the
> : > : front.
> : >
> : > As far as I know, I did not win the lottery on Saturday night SOoooooo
> : > yes,
> : > money will be an object.
> : > One thing at a time.
> : >
> : > :
> : > : Take a look at Bill's video. The KJ got stuck because of design
> : > limitations
> : > : and driver inexperience. The passenger rear tire spun because it
> had
> : > little
> : > : traction and the standard differential will allow the tire with less
> : > : traction to spin freely and the tire with traction to remain still.
> You
> : > can
> : > : 'remedy' the open differential by applying the brakes while giving
> it
> : > gas.
> : > : The resistance from the brake will often trick the differential into
> : > : thinking both tires have equal traction. If you were just ordering
> the
> : > KJ
> : > : now you could add the posi-traction option that does this
> automatically.
> : > It
> : > : is not as good as a true 'locker' but is much better than nothing.
> The
> : > : driver should also have been further to the left, ALWAYS select your
> : > line
> : > : when given the chance.
> : > :
> : > : While you are at it get a set of substantial rubber floor mats to
> : > replace
> : > : the carpeted ones that came from the factory. Your KJ isn't like
> your
> : > old
> : > : CJ where you could just go to the carwash with the top off to clean
> the
> : > : interior.
> : >
> : > Those were the days aye!
> : > Rubber mats. Yup, for mess making that would be the thing to have.
> Good
> : > idear ya got there.
> : >
> : > :
> : > : I am not sure how many people in this newsgroup have experience with
> the
> : > 3.7
> : > : liter V-6 engine as it is fairly new but I am sure some of them know
> : > where
> : > : to look and call for good information
> : >
> : > I have spent a little time googling the Liberty, have not found much
> out
> : > there yet.
> : >
> : > Thanks for the input!
> : >
> : >
> : > Kate
> : > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
> : >
> : > :
> : > :
> : > : --
> : > : .
> : > : Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> : > : 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> : > : Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> : > : Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> : > : .
> : > : "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> : > : news:cW0Ve.10427$_84.5306@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> : > : > news:-NadnRrRZM3U0rneRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> : > : > : 2" Spacer lift,
> : > : >
> : > : > Ok, then I will need steps, cause I am not that tall, but that's
> ok!
> : > : >
> : > : > new shocks,
> : > : > but, but, but these ARE new.
> : > : > Why do you say that AND what setup do you think is good and why?
> : > : >
> : > : > sway bar discos
> : > : > HUH ?? I know what a sway bar is, but I thought disco was dead!
> : > : >
> : > : > and a set of Goodyear MT/R's,
> : > : > I have GoodYear tires on it now, why the MTRs ?
> : > : >
> : > : > : you'll do OK.
> : > : > Thanks!
> : > : > :ŹD
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : > --
> : > : > Kate
> : > : > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
> : > : >
> : > : > :
> : > : > : Carl
> : > : > :
> : > : > : "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> : > : > : news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> : > : > : > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
> : > : > : > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of
> years
> : > : > though.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98
> Cobra
> : > drop
> : > : > top
> : > : > : > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
> : > : > : > I traded in my California car for something more regionally
> : > correct.
> : > : > : > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter
> for
> : > a
> : > : > bit
> : > : > : but
> : > : > : > I will get used to it.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the
> : > Liberty
> : > : > for
> : > : > : > comfort, style and versitility.
> : > : > : > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option -
> Mud
> : > and
> : > : > doing
> : > : > : > some exploring.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing
> with
> : > their
> : > : > : > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out
> and
> : > go
> : > : > : > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > Oh!
> : > : > : > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken,
> : > opinionated,
> : > : > Irish
> : > : > : > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually
> a
> : > : > : republican.
> : > : > : > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and
> : > sport
> : > : > and
> : > : > : > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > --
> : > : > : > Kate
> : > : > : > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : >
> : > : > :
> : > : > :
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > :
> : > :
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
>
>
--
..
Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
news:xUdVe.10620$9i4.5952@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
> So long as I know it's supposed to be that way, I'm ok with it.
> I knew there would be concessions.
>
> The disconnects, do you just disconnect and leave it that way or only when
> you are off road. This is a whole new thing to me
> --
> Kate
> 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
>
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:323fb$4324fc7c$d8449845$13164@FUSE.NET...
> : Kate,
> :
> : It is a Jeep thing AND you are expecting too much. When I went from an
> A6
> to
> : a WJ is was culture shock in the handling department. You can't take
> : off-ramps at 70 mph anymore.
> :
> : I'm not sure about the amount of increased articulation you can get with
> the
> : disconnects on a KJ. I think Bill has more of the information on that.
> :
> : --
> : .
> : Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> : 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> : Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> : Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> : .
> : "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> : news:266Ve.11146$FW1.2884@newsread3.news.atl.earth link.net...
> : >
> : >
> : >
> : > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> : > news:b859a$4324ae21$d8449845$26172@FUSE.NET...
> : > : Kate,
> : > :
> : > : Which Goodyear tires did you get? I am guessing Wrangler HPs which
> are
> : > a
> : > : ..... fair ... street tire but you won't be getting too far off-road
> : > with
> : > : those.
> : > :
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS
> : >
> : > You guessed right. They seem to wander, or is it a Jeep thing, that I
> : > wouldn't understand ?
> : > My 1st CJ wandered like a drunken indian and I may be too used to the
> : > super
> : > tight suspension on my Cobra but this little thing seems a wee bit
> loose.
> : >
> : > :
> : > : The MT/Rs that Carl mentioned are off-road mud tires and it sounds
> like
> : > you
> : > : would have little need for them.
> : > :
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORMT
> : >
> : > Actually, I have this thing about mud. I have always liked to play in
> it
> : > BUT
> : > for now, I ahve what I have.... well, that and a AAA card if I don't
> go
> : > out
> : > too far I guess LOL
> : >
> : > :
> : > : If possible you might see if you can get the dealer to swap you a
> set
> of
> : > All
> : > : Terrain tires. They all have a deal with a local tire company
> although
> : > the
> : > : swapping is easier done before the sales papers are signed. At the
> very
> : > : least the ATs will give you better winter performance.
> : > :
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORAT
> : >
> : > Somehow, I doubt it BUTm you never know, I suppose I could ask.
> : >
> : > :
> : > : Everyone has their own favorite tire manufacturer, BFG is popular
> here
> : > but
> : > : not universal (I have Kumho Venture AT-825s on my Grand Cherokee,
> see
> : > chart
> : > : above)
> : >
> : > The last set I had on my Cobra were Kuhmos.
> : > I was not all that happy with them. Seemed to need rebalancing all the
> : > time
> : >
> : > : Depending on how high you lift your Liberty you might need new
> (longer)
> : > : shocks or shock extensions.
> : >
> : > Gotcha
> : >
> : > :
> : > : The 'discos' are sway bar disconnects. You need to disconnect the
> sway
> : > bar
> : > : for full articulation off-road but you don't sound to be planning
> that
> : > : either.
> : >
> : > I might, you just never know. Better to have it and not need it than
> the
> : > other way around.
> : >
> : >
> : > : A towing point front and rear is important off-road so if you get
> stuck
> : > : someone can pull you out without endangering your axles or body.
> (The
> : > KJ's
> : > : not yours) A trailer receiver counts as a rear tow point and allows
> the
> : > : addition of additional carriers, etc. that may be of interest now or
> in
> : > the
> : > : future. If money is a consideration you only 'need' one tow hook in
> the
> : > : front.
> : >
> : > As far as I know, I did not win the lottery on Saturday night SOoooooo
> : > yes,
> : > money will be an object.
> : > One thing at a time.
> : >
> : > :
> : > : Take a look at Bill's video. The KJ got stuck because of design
> : > limitations
> : > : and driver inexperience. The passenger rear tire spun because it
> had
> : > little
> : > : traction and the standard differential will allow the tire with less
> : > : traction to spin freely and the tire with traction to remain still.
> You
> : > can
> : > : 'remedy' the open differential by applying the brakes while giving
> it
> : > gas.
> : > : The resistance from the brake will often trick the differential into
> : > : thinking both tires have equal traction. If you were just ordering
> the
> : > KJ
> : > : now you could add the posi-traction option that does this
> automatically.
> : > It
> : > : is not as good as a true 'locker' but is much better than nothing.
> The
> : > : driver should also have been further to the left, ALWAYS select your
> : > line
> : > : when given the chance.
> : > :
> : > : While you are at it get a set of substantial rubber floor mats to
> : > replace
> : > : the carpeted ones that came from the factory. Your KJ isn't like
> your
> : > old
> : > : CJ where you could just go to the carwash with the top off to clean
> the
> : > : interior.
> : >
> : > Those were the days aye!
> : > Rubber mats. Yup, for mess making that would be the thing to have.
> Good
> : > idear ya got there.
> : >
> : > :
> : > : I am not sure how many people in this newsgroup have experience with
> the
> : > 3.7
> : > : liter V-6 engine as it is fairly new but I am sure some of them know
> : > where
> : > : to look and call for good information
> : >
> : > I have spent a little time googling the Liberty, have not found much
> out
> : > there yet.
> : >
> : > Thanks for the input!
> : >
> : >
> : > Kate
> : > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
> : >
> : > :
> : > :
> : > : --
> : > : .
> : > : Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> : > : 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> : > : Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> : > : Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> : > : .
> : > : "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> : > : news:cW0Ve.10427$_84.5306@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> : > : > news:-NadnRrRZM3U0rneRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> : > : > : 2" Spacer lift,
> : > : >
> : > : > Ok, then I will need steps, cause I am not that tall, but that's
> ok!
> : > : >
> : > : > new shocks,
> : > : > but, but, but these ARE new.
> : > : > Why do you say that AND what setup do you think is good and why?
> : > : >
> : > : > sway bar discos
> : > : > HUH ?? I know what a sway bar is, but I thought disco was dead!
> : > : >
> : > : > and a set of Goodyear MT/R's,
> : > : > I have GoodYear tires on it now, why the MTRs ?
> : > : >
> : > : > : you'll do OK.
> : > : > Thanks!
> : > : > :ŹD
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : > --
> : > : > Kate
> : > : > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
> : > : >
> : > : > :
> : > : > : Carl
> : > : > :
> : > : > : "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> : > : > : news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> : > : > : > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
> : > : > : > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of
> years
> : > : > though.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98
> Cobra
> : > drop
> : > : > top
> : > : > : > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
> : > : > : > I traded in my California car for something more regionally
> : > correct.
> : > : > : > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter
> for
> : > a
> : > : > bit
> : > : > : but
> : > : > : > I will get used to it.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the
> : > Liberty
> : > : > for
> : > : > : > comfort, style and versitility.
> : > : > : > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option -
> Mud
> : > and
> : > : > doing
> : > : > : > some exploring.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing
> with
> : > their
> : > : > : > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out
> and
> : > go
> : > : > : > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > Oh!
> : > : > : > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken,
> : > opinionated,
> : > : > Irish
> : > : > : > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually
> a
> : > : > : republican.
> : > : > : > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and
> : > sport
> : > : > and
> : > : > : > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > --
> : > : > : > Kate
> : > : > : > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : >
> : > : > :
> : > : > :
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > :
> : > :
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
>
>
#174
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Hey Ya'll!
The anti-sway bar limits body roll when turning at speed, which is good.
It also limits vertical wheel travel needed to keep the tires in contact
with uneven terrain, which is bad. Disconnecting the front sway bar on a
solid axle yields significant gains in vertical wheel travel:
http://www.----------.com/XJversusKJ.jpg
Disconnecting the sway bar on an IFS probably won't help much, and there
are no commercial disconnects available for the Liberty.
Some Liberty owners remove the rear anti-sway bar entirely for better
offroad traction with the solid rear axle. This may degrade on-road
handling and can be less desirable on off-camber trails.
You can lift up to 2.5":
http://www.rocky-road.com/kjsus.html
If you lift you will need longer shocks. Don't install steps - get
high-clearance steel rocker panel rails instead. Might be a good idea to
switch to 15" steel wheels for better offroad tire selection, improved
performance, and with a bit less backspacing to best fit larger tires.
The Liberty is handicapped by IFS, but with modest lift, offroad tires
(@ 10-15 psi), and some traction assistance in the differentials, it can
handle some fairly severe terrain:
http://jeephorizons.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=1929
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Kate wrote:
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:-NadnRrRZM3U0rneRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> : 2" Spacer lift,
>
> Ok, then I will need steps, cause I am not that tall, but that's ok!
>
> new shocks,
> but, but, but these ARE new.
> Why do you say that AND what setup do you think is good and why?
>
> sway bar discos
> HUH ?? I know what a sway bar is, but I thought disco was dead!
>
> and a set of Goodyear MT/R's,
> I have GoodYear tires on it now, why the MTRs ?
>
> : you'll do OK.
> Thanks!
> :ŹD
It also limits vertical wheel travel needed to keep the tires in contact
with uneven terrain, which is bad. Disconnecting the front sway bar on a
solid axle yields significant gains in vertical wheel travel:
http://www.----------.com/XJversusKJ.jpg
Disconnecting the sway bar on an IFS probably won't help much, and there
are no commercial disconnects available for the Liberty.
Some Liberty owners remove the rear anti-sway bar entirely for better
offroad traction with the solid rear axle. This may degrade on-road
handling and can be less desirable on off-camber trails.
You can lift up to 2.5":
http://www.rocky-road.com/kjsus.html
If you lift you will need longer shocks. Don't install steps - get
high-clearance steel rocker panel rails instead. Might be a good idea to
switch to 15" steel wheels for better offroad tire selection, improved
performance, and with a bit less backspacing to best fit larger tires.
The Liberty is handicapped by IFS, but with modest lift, offroad tires
(@ 10-15 psi), and some traction assistance in the differentials, it can
handle some fairly severe terrain:
http://jeephorizons.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=1929
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Kate wrote:
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:-NadnRrRZM3U0rneRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> : 2" Spacer lift,
>
> Ok, then I will need steps, cause I am not that tall, but that's ok!
>
> new shocks,
> but, but, but these ARE new.
> Why do you say that AND what setup do you think is good and why?
>
> sway bar discos
> HUH ?? I know what a sway bar is, but I thought disco was dead!
>
> and a set of Goodyear MT/R's,
> I have GoodYear tires on it now, why the MTRs ?
>
> : you'll do OK.
> Thanks!
> :ŹD
#175
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Hey Ya'll!
The anti-sway bar limits body roll when turning at speed, which is good.
It also limits vertical wheel travel needed to keep the tires in contact
with uneven terrain, which is bad. Disconnecting the front sway bar on a
solid axle yields significant gains in vertical wheel travel:
http://www.----------.com/XJversusKJ.jpg
Disconnecting the sway bar on an IFS probably won't help much, and there
are no commercial disconnects available for the Liberty.
Some Liberty owners remove the rear anti-sway bar entirely for better
offroad traction with the solid rear axle. This may degrade on-road
handling and can be less desirable on off-camber trails.
You can lift up to 2.5":
http://www.rocky-road.com/kjsus.html
If you lift you will need longer shocks. Don't install steps - get
high-clearance steel rocker panel rails instead. Might be a good idea to
switch to 15" steel wheels for better offroad tire selection, improved
performance, and with a bit less backspacing to best fit larger tires.
The Liberty is handicapped by IFS, but with modest lift, offroad tires
(@ 10-15 psi), and some traction assistance in the differentials, it can
handle some fairly severe terrain:
http://jeephorizons.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=1929
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Kate wrote:
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:-NadnRrRZM3U0rneRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> : 2" Spacer lift,
>
> Ok, then I will need steps, cause I am not that tall, but that's ok!
>
> new shocks,
> but, but, but these ARE new.
> Why do you say that AND what setup do you think is good and why?
>
> sway bar discos
> HUH ?? I know what a sway bar is, but I thought disco was dead!
>
> and a set of Goodyear MT/R's,
> I have GoodYear tires on it now, why the MTRs ?
>
> : you'll do OK.
> Thanks!
> :ŹD
It also limits vertical wheel travel needed to keep the tires in contact
with uneven terrain, which is bad. Disconnecting the front sway bar on a
solid axle yields significant gains in vertical wheel travel:
http://www.----------.com/XJversusKJ.jpg
Disconnecting the sway bar on an IFS probably won't help much, and there
are no commercial disconnects available for the Liberty.
Some Liberty owners remove the rear anti-sway bar entirely for better
offroad traction with the solid rear axle. This may degrade on-road
handling and can be less desirable on off-camber trails.
You can lift up to 2.5":
http://www.rocky-road.com/kjsus.html
If you lift you will need longer shocks. Don't install steps - get
high-clearance steel rocker panel rails instead. Might be a good idea to
switch to 15" steel wheels for better offroad tire selection, improved
performance, and with a bit less backspacing to best fit larger tires.
The Liberty is handicapped by IFS, but with modest lift, offroad tires
(@ 10-15 psi), and some traction assistance in the differentials, it can
handle some fairly severe terrain:
http://jeephorizons.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=1929
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Kate wrote:
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:-NadnRrRZM3U0rneRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> : 2" Spacer lift,
>
> Ok, then I will need steps, cause I am not that tall, but that's ok!
>
> new shocks,
> but, but, but these ARE new.
> Why do you say that AND what setup do you think is good and why?
>
> sway bar discos
> HUH ?? I know what a sway bar is, but I thought disco was dead!
>
> and a set of Goodyear MT/R's,
> I have GoodYear tires on it now, why the MTRs ?
>
> : you'll do OK.
> Thanks!
> :ŹD
#176
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Hey Ya'll!
The anti-sway bar limits body roll when turning at speed, which is good.
It also limits vertical wheel travel needed to keep the tires in contact
with uneven terrain, which is bad. Disconnecting the front sway bar on a
solid axle yields significant gains in vertical wheel travel:
http://www.----------.com/XJversusKJ.jpg
Disconnecting the sway bar on an IFS probably won't help much, and there
are no commercial disconnects available for the Liberty.
Some Liberty owners remove the rear anti-sway bar entirely for better
offroad traction with the solid rear axle. This may degrade on-road
handling and can be less desirable on off-camber trails.
You can lift up to 2.5":
http://www.rocky-road.com/kjsus.html
If you lift you will need longer shocks. Don't install steps - get
high-clearance steel rocker panel rails instead. Might be a good idea to
switch to 15" steel wheels for better offroad tire selection, improved
performance, and with a bit less backspacing to best fit larger tires.
The Liberty is handicapped by IFS, but with modest lift, offroad tires
(@ 10-15 psi), and some traction assistance in the differentials, it can
handle some fairly severe terrain:
http://jeephorizons.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=1929
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Kate wrote:
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:-NadnRrRZM3U0rneRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> : 2" Spacer lift,
>
> Ok, then I will need steps, cause I am not that tall, but that's ok!
>
> new shocks,
> but, but, but these ARE new.
> Why do you say that AND what setup do you think is good and why?
>
> sway bar discos
> HUH ?? I know what a sway bar is, but I thought disco was dead!
>
> and a set of Goodyear MT/R's,
> I have GoodYear tires on it now, why the MTRs ?
>
> : you'll do OK.
> Thanks!
> :ŹD
It also limits vertical wheel travel needed to keep the tires in contact
with uneven terrain, which is bad. Disconnecting the front sway bar on a
solid axle yields significant gains in vertical wheel travel:
http://www.----------.com/XJversusKJ.jpg
Disconnecting the sway bar on an IFS probably won't help much, and there
are no commercial disconnects available for the Liberty.
Some Liberty owners remove the rear anti-sway bar entirely for better
offroad traction with the solid rear axle. This may degrade on-road
handling and can be less desirable on off-camber trails.
You can lift up to 2.5":
http://www.rocky-road.com/kjsus.html
If you lift you will need longer shocks. Don't install steps - get
high-clearance steel rocker panel rails instead. Might be a good idea to
switch to 15" steel wheels for better offroad tire selection, improved
performance, and with a bit less backspacing to best fit larger tires.
The Liberty is handicapped by IFS, but with modest lift, offroad tires
(@ 10-15 psi), and some traction assistance in the differentials, it can
handle some fairly severe terrain:
http://jeephorizons.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=1929
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Kate wrote:
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:-NadnRrRZM3U0rneRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> : 2" Spacer lift,
>
> Ok, then I will need steps, cause I am not that tall, but that's ok!
>
> new shocks,
> but, but, but these ARE new.
> Why do you say that AND what setup do you think is good and why?
>
> sway bar discos
> HUH ?? I know what a sway bar is, but I thought disco was dead!
>
> and a set of Goodyear MT/R's,
> I have GoodYear tires on it now, why the MTRs ?
>
> : you'll do OK.
> Thanks!
> :ŹD
#177
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Hey Ya'll!
The anti-sway bar limits body roll when turning at speed, which is good.
It also limits vertical wheel travel needed to keep the tires in contact
with uneven terrain, which is bad. Disconnecting the front sway bar on a
solid axle yields significant gains in vertical wheel travel:
http://www.----------.com/XJversusKJ.jpg
Disconnecting the sway bar on an IFS probably won't help much, and there
are no commercial disconnects available for the Liberty.
Some Liberty owners remove the rear anti-sway bar entirely for better
offroad traction with the solid rear axle. This may degrade on-road
handling and can be less desirable on off-camber trails.
You can lift up to 2.5":
http://www.rocky-road.com/kjsus.html
If you lift you will need longer shocks. Don't install steps - get
high-clearance steel rocker panel rails instead. Might be a good idea to
switch to 15" steel wheels for better offroad tire selection, improved
performance, and with a bit less backspacing to best fit larger tires.
The Liberty is handicapped by IFS, but with modest lift, offroad tires
(@ 10-15 psi), and some traction assistance in the differentials, it can
handle some fairly severe terrain:
http://jeephorizons.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=1929
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Kate wrote:
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:-NadnRrRZM3U0rneRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> : 2" Spacer lift,
>
> Ok, then I will need steps, cause I am not that tall, but that's ok!
>
> new shocks,
> but, but, but these ARE new.
> Why do you say that AND what setup do you think is good and why?
>
> sway bar discos
> HUH ?? I know what a sway bar is, but I thought disco was dead!
>
> and a set of Goodyear MT/R's,
> I have GoodYear tires on it now, why the MTRs ?
>
> : you'll do OK.
> Thanks!
> :ŹD
It also limits vertical wheel travel needed to keep the tires in contact
with uneven terrain, which is bad. Disconnecting the front sway bar on a
solid axle yields significant gains in vertical wheel travel:
http://www.----------.com/XJversusKJ.jpg
Disconnecting the sway bar on an IFS probably won't help much, and there
are no commercial disconnects available for the Liberty.
Some Liberty owners remove the rear anti-sway bar entirely for better
offroad traction with the solid rear axle. This may degrade on-road
handling and can be less desirable on off-camber trails.
You can lift up to 2.5":
http://www.rocky-road.com/kjsus.html
If you lift you will need longer shocks. Don't install steps - get
high-clearance steel rocker panel rails instead. Might be a good idea to
switch to 15" steel wheels for better offroad tire selection, improved
performance, and with a bit less backspacing to best fit larger tires.
The Liberty is handicapped by IFS, but with modest lift, offroad tires
(@ 10-15 psi), and some traction assistance in the differentials, it can
handle some fairly severe terrain:
http://jeephorizons.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=1929
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Kate wrote:
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:-NadnRrRZM3U0rneRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> : 2" Spacer lift,
>
> Ok, then I will need steps, cause I am not that tall, but that's ok!
>
> new shocks,
> but, but, but these ARE new.
> Why do you say that AND what setup do you think is good and why?
>
> sway bar discos
> HUH ?? I know what a sway bar is, but I thought disco was dead!
>
> and a set of Goodyear MT/R's,
> I have GoodYear tires on it now, why the MTRs ?
>
> : you'll do OK.
> Thanks!
> :ŹD
#178
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Hey Ya'll!
Be careful of the guys that tell you to go Jeeping topless, they might mean
no top on the Jeep, which is an option that you do not have.
"Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
> I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years though.
>
> After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra drop top
> for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
> I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
> The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a bit
> but
> I will get used to it.
>
> In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty for
> comfort, style and versitility.
> I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and doing
> some exploring.
>
> I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with their
> Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
> exploring this beautiful part of the country.
>
> Oh!
> I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated, Irish
> woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
> republican.
> I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport and
> worked in the automotive industry for many years.
>
> Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
>
> --
> Kate
> 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
>
>
>
no top on the Jeep, which is an option that you do not have.
"Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
> I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years though.
>
> After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra drop top
> for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
> I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
> The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a bit
> but
> I will get used to it.
>
> In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty for
> comfort, style and versitility.
> I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and doing
> some exploring.
>
> I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with their
> Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
> exploring this beautiful part of the country.
>
> Oh!
> I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated, Irish
> woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
> republican.
> I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport and
> worked in the automotive industry for many years.
>
> Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
>
> --
> Kate
> 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
>
>
>
#179
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Hey Ya'll!
Be careful of the guys that tell you to go Jeeping topless, they might mean
no top on the Jeep, which is an option that you do not have.
"Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
> I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years though.
>
> After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra drop top
> for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
> I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
> The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a bit
> but
> I will get used to it.
>
> In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty for
> comfort, style and versitility.
> I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and doing
> some exploring.
>
> I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with their
> Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
> exploring this beautiful part of the country.
>
> Oh!
> I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated, Irish
> woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
> republican.
> I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport and
> worked in the automotive industry for many years.
>
> Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
>
> --
> Kate
> 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
>
>
>
no top on the Jeep, which is an option that you do not have.
"Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
> I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years though.
>
> After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra drop top
> for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
> I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
> The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a bit
> but
> I will get used to it.
>
> In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty for
> comfort, style and versitility.
> I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and doing
> some exploring.
>
> I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with their
> Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
> exploring this beautiful part of the country.
>
> Oh!
> I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated, Irish
> woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
> republican.
> I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport and
> worked in the automotive industry for many years.
>
> Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
>
> --
> Kate
> 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
>
>
>
#180
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Hey Ya'll!
Be careful of the guys that tell you to go Jeeping topless, they might mean
no top on the Jeep, which is an option that you do not have.
"Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
> I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years though.
>
> After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra drop top
> for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
> I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
> The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a bit
> but
> I will get used to it.
>
> In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty for
> comfort, style and versitility.
> I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and doing
> some exploring.
>
> I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with their
> Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
> exploring this beautiful part of the country.
>
> Oh!
> I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated, Irish
> woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
> republican.
> I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport and
> worked in the automotive industry for many years.
>
> Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
>
> --
> Kate
> 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
>
>
>
no top on the Jeep, which is an option that you do not have.
"Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
> I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years though.
>
> After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra drop top
> for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
> I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
> The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a bit
> but
> I will get used to it.
>
> In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty for
> comfort, style and versitility.
> I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and doing
> some exploring.
>
> I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with their
> Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
> exploring this beautiful part of the country.
>
> Oh!
> I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated, Irish
> woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
> republican.
> I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport and
> worked in the automotive industry for many years.
>
> Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
>
> --
> Kate
> 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
>
>
>