Hey Ya'll!
#161
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Re: Hey Ya'll!
With the near zero storage and cargo room on these vehicles AND my personal
---- retentive nature when it comes to aesthetics I believe that when I get
a winch, it will be permanently mounted on the front as on my first CJ.
What's new with winches?
The photo of the new CJ that was posted yesterday has a nice looking setup
on the front. The rest of the poor thing has been -- err -- ruined (new to
the group, so watching my potty mouth) though.
--
Kate
2O|||||||O5 Liberty
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:QPydnd9plKYWn7jeRVn-gw@comcast.com...
:I have a front mounted winch on my Jeep. If I can't pull myself forward, I
: have a friend pull me out with my tow hook in the rear. I commute often in
: my Wrangler. 100lbs is less than a typically passenger.
:
: I'm just saying that a receiver winch can be really hard to use when you
: need it.
:
: Carl
:
:
:
:
: "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
: news:e2d4c$4324f68c$d8449845$11472@FUSE.NET...
: > So you have winches on both front and back then? I mean... when you go
: face
: > first into the swamp how do you pull yourself out?
: >
: > Do you carry 2 x 100+ pound winches around town while commuting back and
: > forth to work?
: >
: > --
: > .
: > Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
: > 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
: > Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
: > Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
: > .
: > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
: > news:WbidnT0sMc1EeLneRVn-qw@comcast.com...
: > >I had one on my Cherokee. What I didn't think about? You don't get
stuck
: on
: > > flat land, oh no. You get stuck in nasty, nappy,
: middle-of-your-doors-deep
: > > mud. You get stuck off-camber. You get on big, slippery rocks. You get
: > > stuck
: > > on a steep hill. Now you've got to carry the winch and winch plate
: (read:
: > > 100+LBS) from the back of your truck, thru this terrain, clear the mud
: > > from
: > > your reciever, slide it in. Put the pin in, hook the cables up, and
NOW
: > > winch out. Also, it is not always possible to access the reciever to
: plug
: > > the winch in. I considered running trails with the winch on, but it
hit
: > > EVERYTHING. Winch bumper? Just pull the cable and do it.
: > >
: > > Carl
: > >
: > >
: > > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
: > > news:817fd$4324e272$d8449845$5807@FUSE.NET...
: > >> Don't consider a reciever winch. Why not?
: > >> --
: > >> .
: > >> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
: > >> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
: > >> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
: > >> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
: > >> .
: > >> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
: > >> news:E86dnTo7P_4ARLneRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
: > >> > Kate-
: > >> > The lift is to accomodate the larger tires, the new shocks are
to
: > >> > accomodate the lift.
: > >> >
: > >> > Sway bar discos (short for disconnects) replace the sway bar link
so
: > > that
: > >> > you can effectively disconnect the sway bar from the suspension
: system
: > >> > without removing it from the vehicle.
: > >> >
: > >> > Your stock tires are OK but will get cut up easily, easily get
flats,
: > > and
: > >> > get stuck in mud easily. The MT/R may be overkill, but it is a very
: > >> > good
: > >> > tire. I have a set on my 89 Cherokee that my mother now drives.
They
: > >> > are
: > >> > tough, grab well, ride well and are quiet.
: > >> >
: > >> > Depending on what you want to do, all of the above mentioned is
: > >> > probably
: > >> > overkill. My Cherokee had a 2" spacer lift with an add-a-leaf in
the
: > > rear
: > >> > and on 30" MT/Rs with sway bar discos, I could tackle a lot of
stuff
: I
: > >> > couldn't.
: > >> >
: > >> > Lastly, consider a winch. Do not consider a reciever winch.
: > >> >
: > >> > Carl
: > >> >
: > >> >
: > >> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
: > >> > news:-NadnRrRZM3U0rneRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
: > >> >> 2" Spacer lift, new shocks, sway bar discos and a set of Goodyear
: > > MT/R's,
: > >> >> you'll do OK.
: > >> >>
: > >> >> Carl
: > >> >>
: > >> >> "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
: > >> >> news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
: > >> >> > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
: > >> >> > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years
: > > though.
: > >> >> >
: > >> >> > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra
: > >> >> > drop
: > >> > top
: > >> >> > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
: > >> >> > I traded in my California car for something more regionally
: correct.
: > >> >> > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter
for
: a
: > > bit
: > >> >> but
: > >> >> > I will get used to it.
: > >> >> >
: > >> >> > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the
: Liberty
: > >> >> > for
: > >> >> > comfort, style and versitility.
: > >> >> > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud
: and
: > >> > doing
: > >> >> > some exploring.
: > >> >> >
: > >> >> > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with
: > > their
: > >> >> > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out
and
: go
: > >> >> > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
: > >> >> >
: > >> >> > Oh!
: > >> >> > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken,
: opinionated,
: > >> > Irish
: > >> >> > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
: > >> >> republican.
: > >> >> > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and
: sport
: > > and
: > >> >> > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
: > >> >> >
: > >> >> > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
: > >> >> >
: > >> >> > --
: > >> >> > Kate
: > >> >> > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
: > >> >> >
: > >> >> >
: > >> >> >
: > >> >>
: > >> >>
: > >> >
: > >> >
: > >>
: > >>
: > >
: > >
: >
: >
:
:
---- retentive nature when it comes to aesthetics I believe that when I get
a winch, it will be permanently mounted on the front as on my first CJ.
What's new with winches?
The photo of the new CJ that was posted yesterday has a nice looking setup
on the front. The rest of the poor thing has been -- err -- ruined (new to
the group, so watching my potty mouth) though.
--
Kate
2O|||||||O5 Liberty
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:QPydnd9plKYWn7jeRVn-gw@comcast.com...
:I have a front mounted winch on my Jeep. If I can't pull myself forward, I
: have a friend pull me out with my tow hook in the rear. I commute often in
: my Wrangler. 100lbs is less than a typically passenger.
:
: I'm just saying that a receiver winch can be really hard to use when you
: need it.
:
: Carl
:
:
:
:
: "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
: news:e2d4c$4324f68c$d8449845$11472@FUSE.NET...
: > So you have winches on both front and back then? I mean... when you go
: face
: > first into the swamp how do you pull yourself out?
: >
: > Do you carry 2 x 100+ pound winches around town while commuting back and
: > forth to work?
: >
: > --
: > .
: > Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
: > 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
: > Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
: > Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
: > .
: > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
: > news:WbidnT0sMc1EeLneRVn-qw@comcast.com...
: > >I had one on my Cherokee. What I didn't think about? You don't get
stuck
: on
: > > flat land, oh no. You get stuck in nasty, nappy,
: middle-of-your-doors-deep
: > > mud. You get stuck off-camber. You get on big, slippery rocks. You get
: > > stuck
: > > on a steep hill. Now you've got to carry the winch and winch plate
: (read:
: > > 100+LBS) from the back of your truck, thru this terrain, clear the mud
: > > from
: > > your reciever, slide it in. Put the pin in, hook the cables up, and
NOW
: > > winch out. Also, it is not always possible to access the reciever to
: plug
: > > the winch in. I considered running trails with the winch on, but it
hit
: > > EVERYTHING. Winch bumper? Just pull the cable and do it.
: > >
: > > Carl
: > >
: > >
: > > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
: > > news:817fd$4324e272$d8449845$5807@FUSE.NET...
: > >> Don't consider a reciever winch. Why not?
: > >> --
: > >> .
: > >> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
: > >> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
: > >> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
: > >> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
: > >> .
: > >> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
: > >> news:E86dnTo7P_4ARLneRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
: > >> > Kate-
: > >> > The lift is to accomodate the larger tires, the new shocks are
to
: > >> > accomodate the lift.
: > >> >
: > >> > Sway bar discos (short for disconnects) replace the sway bar link
so
: > > that
: > >> > you can effectively disconnect the sway bar from the suspension
: system
: > >> > without removing it from the vehicle.
: > >> >
: > >> > Your stock tires are OK but will get cut up easily, easily get
flats,
: > > and
: > >> > get stuck in mud easily. The MT/R may be overkill, but it is a very
: > >> > good
: > >> > tire. I have a set on my 89 Cherokee that my mother now drives.
They
: > >> > are
: > >> > tough, grab well, ride well and are quiet.
: > >> >
: > >> > Depending on what you want to do, all of the above mentioned is
: > >> > probably
: > >> > overkill. My Cherokee had a 2" spacer lift with an add-a-leaf in
the
: > > rear
: > >> > and on 30" MT/Rs with sway bar discos, I could tackle a lot of
stuff
: I
: > >> > couldn't.
: > >> >
: > >> > Lastly, consider a winch. Do not consider a reciever winch.
: > >> >
: > >> > Carl
: > >> >
: > >> >
: > >> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
: > >> > news:-NadnRrRZM3U0rneRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
: > >> >> 2" Spacer lift, new shocks, sway bar discos and a set of Goodyear
: > > MT/R's,
: > >> >> you'll do OK.
: > >> >>
: > >> >> Carl
: > >> >>
: > >> >> "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
: > >> >> news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
: > >> >> > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
: > >> >> > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years
: > > though.
: > >> >> >
: > >> >> > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra
: > >> >> > drop
: > >> > top
: > >> >> > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
: > >> >> > I traded in my California car for something more regionally
: correct.
: > >> >> > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter
for
: a
: > > bit
: > >> >> but
: > >> >> > I will get used to it.
: > >> >> >
: > >> >> > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the
: Liberty
: > >> >> > for
: > >> >> > comfort, style and versitility.
: > >> >> > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud
: and
: > >> > doing
: > >> >> > some exploring.
: > >> >> >
: > >> >> > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with
: > > their
: > >> >> > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out
and
: go
: > >> >> > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
: > >> >> >
: > >> >> > Oh!
: > >> >> > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken,
: opinionated,
: > >> > Irish
: > >> >> > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
: > >> >> republican.
: > >> >> > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and
: sport
: > > and
: > >> >> > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
: > >> >> >
: > >> >> > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
: > >> >> >
: > >> >> > --
: > >> >> > Kate
: > >> >> > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
: > >> >> >
: > >> >> >
: > >> >> >
: > >> >>
: > >> >>
: > >> >
: > >> >
: > >>
: > >>
: > >
: > >
: >
: >
:
:
#162
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Hey Ya'll!
Tomes, thanks for the trail map :)
Looks like a real good group here. I'm a little spoiled after the guys in
the Mustang group the regulars there are a great bunch too.
--
Kate
2O|||||||O5 Liberty
"Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:FG6Ve.10519$9i4.7380@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
: Hey Kate - I am glad to see that you took the advice and found this group.
: I also see that you have made a bunch of reliable friends already - these
: are the folks that actually know what they are talking about. If folks
post
: bad info here it is corrected promptly by these who know, so you are in
safe
: advice hands here.
: See you around,
: Tomes
:
: "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
: news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
: > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
: > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years though.
: >
: > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra drop
top
: > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
: > I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
: > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a bit
: but
: > I will get used to it.
: >
: > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty for
: > comfort, style and versitility.
: > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and
doing
: > some exploring.
: >
: > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with their
: > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
: > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
: >
: > Oh!
: > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated,
Irish
: > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
: republican.
: > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport and
: > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
: >
: > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
: >
: > --
: > Kate
: > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
: >
: >
: >
:
:
Looks like a real good group here. I'm a little spoiled after the guys in
the Mustang group the regulars there are a great bunch too.
--
Kate
2O|||||||O5 Liberty
"Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:FG6Ve.10519$9i4.7380@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
: Hey Kate - I am glad to see that you took the advice and found this group.
: I also see that you have made a bunch of reliable friends already - these
: are the folks that actually know what they are talking about. If folks
post
: bad info here it is corrected promptly by these who know, so you are in
safe
: advice hands here.
: See you around,
: Tomes
:
: "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
: news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
: > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
: > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years though.
: >
: > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra drop
top
: > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
: > I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
: > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a bit
: but
: > I will get used to it.
: >
: > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty for
: > comfort, style and versitility.
: > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and
doing
: > some exploring.
: >
: > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with their
: > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
: > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
: >
: > Oh!
: > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated,
Irish
: > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
: republican.
: > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport and
: > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
: >
: > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
: >
: > --
: > Kate
: > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
: >
: >
: >
:
:
#163
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Hey Ya'll!
Tomes, thanks for the trail map :)
Looks like a real good group here. I'm a little spoiled after the guys in
the Mustang group the regulars there are a great bunch too.
--
Kate
2O|||||||O5 Liberty
"Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:FG6Ve.10519$9i4.7380@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
: Hey Kate - I am glad to see that you took the advice and found this group.
: I also see that you have made a bunch of reliable friends already - these
: are the folks that actually know what they are talking about. If folks
post
: bad info here it is corrected promptly by these who know, so you are in
safe
: advice hands here.
: See you around,
: Tomes
:
: "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
: news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
: > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
: > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years though.
: >
: > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra drop
top
: > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
: > I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
: > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a bit
: but
: > I will get used to it.
: >
: > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty for
: > comfort, style and versitility.
: > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and
doing
: > some exploring.
: >
: > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with their
: > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
: > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
: >
: > Oh!
: > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated,
Irish
: > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
: republican.
: > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport and
: > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
: >
: > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
: >
: > --
: > Kate
: > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
: >
: >
: >
:
:
Looks like a real good group here. I'm a little spoiled after the guys in
the Mustang group the regulars there are a great bunch too.
--
Kate
2O|||||||O5 Liberty
"Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:FG6Ve.10519$9i4.7380@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
: Hey Kate - I am glad to see that you took the advice and found this group.
: I also see that you have made a bunch of reliable friends already - these
: are the folks that actually know what they are talking about. If folks
post
: bad info here it is corrected promptly by these who know, so you are in
safe
: advice hands here.
: See you around,
: Tomes
:
: "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
: news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
: > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
: > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years though.
: >
: > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra drop
top
: > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
: > I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
: > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a bit
: but
: > I will get used to it.
: >
: > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty for
: > comfort, style and versitility.
: > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and
doing
: > some exploring.
: >
: > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with their
: > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
: > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
: >
: > Oh!
: > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated,
Irish
: > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
: republican.
: > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport and
: > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
: >
: > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
: >
: > --
: > Kate
: > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
: >
: >
: >
:
:
#164
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Hey Ya'll!
Tomes, thanks for the trail map :)
Looks like a real good group here. I'm a little spoiled after the guys in
the Mustang group the regulars there are a great bunch too.
--
Kate
2O|||||||O5 Liberty
"Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:FG6Ve.10519$9i4.7380@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
: Hey Kate - I am glad to see that you took the advice and found this group.
: I also see that you have made a bunch of reliable friends already - these
: are the folks that actually know what they are talking about. If folks
post
: bad info here it is corrected promptly by these who know, so you are in
safe
: advice hands here.
: See you around,
: Tomes
:
: "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
: news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
: > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
: > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years though.
: >
: > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra drop
top
: > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
: > I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
: > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a bit
: but
: > I will get used to it.
: >
: > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty for
: > comfort, style and versitility.
: > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and
doing
: > some exploring.
: >
: > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with their
: > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
: > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
: >
: > Oh!
: > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated,
Irish
: > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
: republican.
: > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport and
: > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
: >
: > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
: >
: > --
: > Kate
: > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
: >
: >
: >
:
:
Looks like a real good group here. I'm a little spoiled after the guys in
the Mustang group the regulars there are a great bunch too.
--
Kate
2O|||||||O5 Liberty
"Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:FG6Ve.10519$9i4.7380@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
: Hey Kate - I am glad to see that you took the advice and found this group.
: I also see that you have made a bunch of reliable friends already - these
: are the folks that actually know what they are talking about. If folks
post
: bad info here it is corrected promptly by these who know, so you are in
safe
: advice hands here.
: See you around,
: Tomes
:
: "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
: news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
: > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
: > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years though.
: >
: > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra drop
top
: > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
: > I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
: > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a bit
: but
: > I will get used to it.
: >
: > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty for
: > comfort, style and versitility.
: > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and
doing
: > some exploring.
: >
: > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with their
: > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
: > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
: >
: > Oh!
: > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated,
Irish
: > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
: republican.
: > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport and
: > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
: >
: > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
: >
: > --
: > Kate
: > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
: >
: >
: >
:
:
#165
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Re: Hey Ya'll!
Tomes, thanks for the trail map :)
Looks like a real good group here. I'm a little spoiled after the guys in
the Mustang group the regulars there are a great bunch too.
--
Kate
2O|||||||O5 Liberty
"Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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: Hey Kate - I am glad to see that you took the advice and found this group.
: I also see that you have made a bunch of reliable friends already - these
: are the folks that actually know what they are talking about. If folks
post
: bad info here it is corrected promptly by these who know, so you are in
safe
: advice hands here.
: See you around,
: Tomes
:
: "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
: news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
: > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
: > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years though.
: >
: > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra drop
top
: > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
: > I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
: > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a bit
: but
: > I will get used to it.
: >
: > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty for
: > comfort, style and versitility.
: > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and
doing
: > some exploring.
: >
: > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with their
: > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
: > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
: >
: > Oh!
: > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated,
Irish
: > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
: republican.
: > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport and
: > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
: >
: > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
: >
: > --
: > Kate
: > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
: >
: >
: >
:
:
Looks like a real good group here. I'm a little spoiled after the guys in
the Mustang group the regulars there are a great bunch too.
--
Kate
2O|||||||O5 Liberty
"Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:FG6Ve.10519$9i4.7380@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
: Hey Kate - I am glad to see that you took the advice and found this group.
: I also see that you have made a bunch of reliable friends already - these
: are the folks that actually know what they are talking about. If folks
post
: bad info here it is corrected promptly by these who know, so you are in
safe
: advice hands here.
: See you around,
: Tomes
:
: "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
: news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
: > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
: > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years though.
: >
: > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra drop
top
: > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
: > I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
: > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a bit
: but
: > I will get used to it.
: >
: > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty for
: > comfort, style and versitility.
: > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and
doing
: > some exploring.
: >
: > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with their
: > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
: > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
: >
: > Oh!
: > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated,
Irish
: > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
: republican.
: > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport and
: > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
: >
: > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
: >
: > --
: > Kate
: > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
: >
: >
: >
:
:
#166
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Re: Hey Ya'll!
so will I still see you in the must group Kate??
"Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
> I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years though.
>
> After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra drop top
> for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
> I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
> The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a bit
but
> I will get used to it.
>
> In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty for
> comfort, style and versitility.
> I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and doing
> some exploring.
>
> I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with their
> Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
> exploring this beautiful part of the country.
>
> Oh!
> I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated, Irish
> woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
republican.
> I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport and
> worked in the automotive industry for many years.
>
> Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
>
> --
> Kate
> 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
>
>
>
"Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
> I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years though.
>
> After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra drop top
> for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
> I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
> The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a bit
but
> I will get used to it.
>
> In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty for
> comfort, style and versitility.
> I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and doing
> some exploring.
>
> I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with their
> Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
> exploring this beautiful part of the country.
>
> Oh!
> I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated, Irish
> woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
republican.
> I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport and
> worked in the automotive industry for many years.
>
> Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
>
> --
> Kate
> 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
>
>
>
#167
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Re: Hey Ya'll!
so will I still see you in the must group Kate??
"Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
> I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years though.
>
> After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra drop top
> for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
> I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
> The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a bit
but
> I will get used to it.
>
> In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty for
> comfort, style and versitility.
> I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and doing
> some exploring.
>
> I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with their
> Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
> exploring this beautiful part of the country.
>
> Oh!
> I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated, Irish
> woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
republican.
> I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport and
> worked in the automotive industry for many years.
>
> Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
>
> --
> Kate
> 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
>
>
>
"Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
> I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years though.
>
> After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra drop top
> for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
> I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
> The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a bit
but
> I will get used to it.
>
> In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty for
> comfort, style and versitility.
> I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and doing
> some exploring.
>
> I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with their
> Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
> exploring this beautiful part of the country.
>
> Oh!
> I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated, Irish
> woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
republican.
> I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport and
> worked in the automotive industry for many years.
>
> Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
>
> --
> Kate
> 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
>
>
>
#168
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Re: Hey Ya'll!
so will I still see you in the must group Kate??
"Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
> I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years though.
>
> After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra drop top
> for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
> I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
> The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a bit
but
> I will get used to it.
>
> In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty for
> comfort, style and versitility.
> I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and doing
> some exploring.
>
> I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with their
> Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
> exploring this beautiful part of the country.
>
> Oh!
> I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated, Irish
> woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
republican.
> I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport and
> worked in the automotive industry for many years.
>
> Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
>
> --
> Kate
> 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
>
>
>
"Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
> I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years though.
>
> After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra drop top
> for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
> I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
> The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a bit
but
> I will get used to it.
>
> In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty for
> comfort, style and versitility.
> I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and doing
> some exploring.
>
> I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with their
> Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
> exploring this beautiful part of the country.
>
> Oh!
> I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated, Irish
> woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
republican.
> I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport and
> worked in the automotive industry for many years.
>
> Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
>
> --
> Kate
> 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
>
>
>
#169
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Re: Hey Ya'll!
so will I still see you in the must group Kate??
"Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
> I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years though.
>
> After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra drop top
> for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
> I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
> The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a bit
but
> I will get used to it.
>
> In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty for
> comfort, style and versitility.
> I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and doing
> some exploring.
>
> I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with their
> Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
> exploring this beautiful part of the country.
>
> Oh!
> I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated, Irish
> woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
republican.
> I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport and
> worked in the automotive industry for many years.
>
> Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
>
> --
> Kate
> 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
>
>
>
"Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
> I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years though.
>
> After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra drop top
> for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
> I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
> The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a bit
but
> I will get used to it.
>
> In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty for
> comfort, style and versitility.
> I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and doing
> some exploring.
>
> I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with their
> Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
> exploring this beautiful part of the country.
>
> Oh!
> I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated, Irish
> woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
republican.
> I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport and
> worked in the automotive industry for many years.
>
> Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
>
> --
> Kate
> 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
>
>
>
#170
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Re: Hey Ya'll!
Just when off-road.
--
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
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> So long as I know it's supposed to be that way, I'm ok with it.
> I knew there would be concessions.
>
> The disconnects, do you just disconnect and leave it that way or only when
> you are off road. This is a whole new thing to me
> --
> Kate
> 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
>
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:323fb$4324fc7c$d8449845$13164@FUSE.NET...
> : Kate,
> :
> : It is a Jeep thing AND you are expecting too much. When I went from an
> A6
> to
> : a WJ is was culture shock in the handling department. You can't take
> : off-ramps at 70 mph anymore.
> :
> : I'm not sure about the amount of increased articulation you can get with
> the
> : disconnects on a KJ. I think Bill has more of the information on that.
> :
> : --
> : .
> : Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> : 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> : Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> : Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> : .
> : "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> : news:266Ve.11146$FW1.2884@newsread3.news.atl.earth link.net...
> : >
> : >
> : >
> : > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> : > news:b859a$4324ae21$d8449845$26172@FUSE.NET...
> : > : Kate,
> : > :
> : > : Which Goodyear tires did you get? I am guessing Wrangler HPs which
> are
> : > a
> : > : ..... fair ... street tire but you won't be getting too far off-road
> : > with
> : > : those.
> : > :
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS
> : >
> : > You guessed right. They seem to wander, or is it a Jeep thing, that I
> : > wouldn't understand ?
> : > My 1st CJ wandered like a drunken indian and I may be too used to the
> : > super
> : > tight suspension on my Cobra but this little thing seems a wee bit
> loose.
> : >
> : > :
> : > : The MT/Rs that Carl mentioned are off-road mud tires and it sounds
> like
> : > you
> : > : would have little need for them.
> : > :
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORMT
> : >
> : > Actually, I have this thing about mud. I have always liked to play in
> it
> : > BUT
> : > for now, I ahve what I have.... well, that and a AAA card if I don't
> go
> : > out
> : > too far I guess LOL
> : >
> : > :
> : > : If possible you might see if you can get the dealer to swap you a
> set
> of
> : > All
> : > : Terrain tires. They all have a deal with a local tire company
> although
> : > the
> : > : swapping is easier done before the sales papers are signed. At the
> very
> : > : least the ATs will give you better winter performance.
> : > :
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORAT
> : >
> : > Somehow, I doubt it BUTm you never know, I suppose I could ask.
> : >
> : > :
> : > : Everyone has their own favorite tire manufacturer, BFG is popular
> here
> : > but
> : > : not universal (I have Kumho Venture AT-825s on my Grand Cherokee,
> see
> : > chart
> : > : above)
> : >
> : > The last set I had on my Cobra were Kuhmos.
> : > I was not all that happy with them. Seemed to need rebalancing all the
> : > time
> : >
> : > : Depending on how high you lift your Liberty you might need new
> (longer)
> : > : shocks or shock extensions.
> : >
> : > Gotcha
> : >
> : > :
> : > : The 'discos' are sway bar disconnects. You need to disconnect the
> sway
> : > bar
> : > : for full articulation off-road but you don't sound to be planning
> that
> : > : either.
> : >
> : > I might, you just never know. Better to have it and not need it than
> the
> : > other way around.
> : >
> : >
> : > : A towing point front and rear is important off-road so if you get
> stuck
> : > : someone can pull you out without endangering your axles or body.
> (The
> : > KJ's
> : > : not yours) A trailer receiver counts as a rear tow point and allows
> the
> : > : addition of additional carriers, etc. that may be of interest now or
> in
> : > the
> : > : future. If money is a consideration you only 'need' one tow hook in
> the
> : > : front.
> : >
> : > As far as I know, I did not win the lottery on Saturday night SOoooooo
> : > yes,
> : > money will be an object.
> : > One thing at a time.
> : >
> : > :
> : > : Take a look at Bill's video. The KJ got stuck because of design
> : > limitations
> : > : and driver inexperience. The passenger rear tire spun because it
> had
> : > little
> : > : traction and the standard differential will allow the tire with less
> : > : traction to spin freely and the tire with traction to remain still.
> You
> : > can
> : > : 'remedy' the open differential by applying the brakes while giving
> it
> : > gas.
> : > : The resistance from the brake will often trick the differential into
> : > : thinking both tires have equal traction. If you were just ordering
> the
> : > KJ
> : > : now you could add the posi-traction option that does this
> automatically.
> : > It
> : > : is not as good as a true 'locker' but is much better than nothing.
> The
> : > : driver should also have been further to the left, ALWAYS select your
> : > line
> : > : when given the chance.
> : > :
> : > : While you are at it get a set of substantial rubber floor mats to
> : > replace
> : > : the carpeted ones that came from the factory. Your KJ isn't like
> your
> : > old
> : > : CJ where you could just go to the carwash with the top off to clean
> the
> : > : interior.
> : >
> : > Those were the days aye!
> : > Rubber mats. Yup, for mess making that would be the thing to have.
> Good
> : > idear ya got there.
> : >
> : > :
> : > : I am not sure how many people in this newsgroup have experience with
> the
> : > 3.7
> : > : liter V-6 engine as it is fairly new but I am sure some of them know
> : > where
> : > : to look and call for good information
> : >
> : > I have spent a little time googling the Liberty, have not found much
> out
> : > there yet.
> : >
> : > Thanks for the input!
> : >
> : >
> : > Kate
> : > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
> : >
> : > :
> : > :
> : > : --
> : > : .
> : > : Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> : > : 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> : > : Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> : > : Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> : > : .
> : > : "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> : > : news:cW0Ve.10427$_84.5306@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> : > : > news:-NadnRrRZM3U0rneRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> : > : > : 2" Spacer lift,
> : > : >
> : > : > Ok, then I will need steps, cause I am not that tall, but that's
> ok!
> : > : >
> : > : > new shocks,
> : > : > but, but, but these ARE new.
> : > : > Why do you say that AND what setup do you think is good and why?
> : > : >
> : > : > sway bar discos
> : > : > HUH ?? I know what a sway bar is, but I thought disco was dead!
> : > : >
> : > : > and a set of Goodyear MT/R's,
> : > : > I have GoodYear tires on it now, why the MTRs ?
> : > : >
> : > : > : you'll do OK.
> : > : > Thanks!
> : > : > :ŹD
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : > --
> : > : > Kate
> : > : > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
> : > : >
> : > : > :
> : > : > : Carl
> : > : > :
> : > : > : "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> : > : > : news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> : > : > : > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
> : > : > : > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of
> years
> : > : > though.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98
> Cobra
> : > drop
> : > : > top
> : > : > : > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
> : > : > : > I traded in my California car for something more regionally
> : > correct.
> : > : > : > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter
> for
> : > a
> : > : > bit
> : > : > : but
> : > : > : > I will get used to it.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the
> : > Liberty
> : > : > for
> : > : > : > comfort, style and versitility.
> : > : > : > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option -
> Mud
> : > and
> : > : > doing
> : > : > : > some exploring.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing
> with
> : > their
> : > : > : > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out
> and
> : > go
> : > : > : > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > Oh!
> : > : > : > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken,
> : > opinionated,
> : > : > Irish
> : > : > : > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually
> a
> : > : > : republican.
> : > : > : > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and
> : > sport
> : > : > and
> : > : > : > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > --
> : > : > : > Kate
> : > : > : > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : >
> : > : > :
> : > : > :
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > :
> : > :
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
>
>
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
news:xUdVe.10620$9i4.5952@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
> So long as I know it's supposed to be that way, I'm ok with it.
> I knew there would be concessions.
>
> The disconnects, do you just disconnect and leave it that way or only when
> you are off road. This is a whole new thing to me
> --
> Kate
> 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
>
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:323fb$4324fc7c$d8449845$13164@FUSE.NET...
> : Kate,
> :
> : It is a Jeep thing AND you are expecting too much. When I went from an
> A6
> to
> : a WJ is was culture shock in the handling department. You can't take
> : off-ramps at 70 mph anymore.
> :
> : I'm not sure about the amount of increased articulation you can get with
> the
> : disconnects on a KJ. I think Bill has more of the information on that.
> :
> : --
> : .
> : Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> : 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> : Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> : Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> : .
> : "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> : news:266Ve.11146$FW1.2884@newsread3.news.atl.earth link.net...
> : >
> : >
> : >
> : > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> : > news:b859a$4324ae21$d8449845$26172@FUSE.NET...
> : > : Kate,
> : > :
> : > : Which Goodyear tires did you get? I am guessing Wrangler HPs which
> are
> : > a
> : > : ..... fair ... street tire but you won't be getting too far off-road
> : > with
> : > : those.
> : > :
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS
> : >
> : > You guessed right. They seem to wander, or is it a Jeep thing, that I
> : > wouldn't understand ?
> : > My 1st CJ wandered like a drunken indian and I may be too used to the
> : > super
> : > tight suspension on my Cobra but this little thing seems a wee bit
> loose.
> : >
> : > :
> : > : The MT/Rs that Carl mentioned are off-road mud tires and it sounds
> like
> : > you
> : > : would have little need for them.
> : > :
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORMT
> : >
> : > Actually, I have this thing about mud. I have always liked to play in
> it
> : > BUT
> : > for now, I ahve what I have.... well, that and a AAA card if I don't
> go
> : > out
> : > too far I guess LOL
> : >
> : > :
> : > : If possible you might see if you can get the dealer to swap you a
> set
> of
> : > All
> : > : Terrain tires. They all have a deal with a local tire company
> although
> : > the
> : > : swapping is easier done before the sales papers are signed. At the
> very
> : > : least the ATs will give you better winter performance.
> : > :
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORAT
> : >
> : > Somehow, I doubt it BUTm you never know, I suppose I could ask.
> : >
> : > :
> : > : Everyone has their own favorite tire manufacturer, BFG is popular
> here
> : > but
> : > : not universal (I have Kumho Venture AT-825s on my Grand Cherokee,
> see
> : > chart
> : > : above)
> : >
> : > The last set I had on my Cobra were Kuhmos.
> : > I was not all that happy with them. Seemed to need rebalancing all the
> : > time
> : >
> : > : Depending on how high you lift your Liberty you might need new
> (longer)
> : > : shocks or shock extensions.
> : >
> : > Gotcha
> : >
> : > :
> : > : The 'discos' are sway bar disconnects. You need to disconnect the
> sway
> : > bar
> : > : for full articulation off-road but you don't sound to be planning
> that
> : > : either.
> : >
> : > I might, you just never know. Better to have it and not need it than
> the
> : > other way around.
> : >
> : >
> : > : A towing point front and rear is important off-road so if you get
> stuck
> : > : someone can pull you out without endangering your axles or body.
> (The
> : > KJ's
> : > : not yours) A trailer receiver counts as a rear tow point and allows
> the
> : > : addition of additional carriers, etc. that may be of interest now or
> in
> : > the
> : > : future. If money is a consideration you only 'need' one tow hook in
> the
> : > : front.
> : >
> : > As far as I know, I did not win the lottery on Saturday night SOoooooo
> : > yes,
> : > money will be an object.
> : > One thing at a time.
> : >
> : > :
> : > : Take a look at Bill's video. The KJ got stuck because of design
> : > limitations
> : > : and driver inexperience. The passenger rear tire spun because it
> had
> : > little
> : > : traction and the standard differential will allow the tire with less
> : > : traction to spin freely and the tire with traction to remain still.
> You
> : > can
> : > : 'remedy' the open differential by applying the brakes while giving
> it
> : > gas.
> : > : The resistance from the brake will often trick the differential into
> : > : thinking both tires have equal traction. If you were just ordering
> the
> : > KJ
> : > : now you could add the posi-traction option that does this
> automatically.
> : > It
> : > : is not as good as a true 'locker' but is much better than nothing.
> The
> : > : driver should also have been further to the left, ALWAYS select your
> : > line
> : > : when given the chance.
> : > :
> : > : While you are at it get a set of substantial rubber floor mats to
> : > replace
> : > : the carpeted ones that came from the factory. Your KJ isn't like
> your
> : > old
> : > : CJ where you could just go to the carwash with the top off to clean
> the
> : > : interior.
> : >
> : > Those were the days aye!
> : > Rubber mats. Yup, for mess making that would be the thing to have.
> Good
> : > idear ya got there.
> : >
> : > :
> : > : I am not sure how many people in this newsgroup have experience with
> the
> : > 3.7
> : > : liter V-6 engine as it is fairly new but I am sure some of them know
> : > where
> : > : to look and call for good information
> : >
> : > I have spent a little time googling the Liberty, have not found much
> out
> : > there yet.
> : >
> : > Thanks for the input!
> : >
> : >
> : > Kate
> : > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
> : >
> : > :
> : > :
> : > : --
> : > : .
> : > : Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> : > : 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> : > : Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> : > : Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> : > : .
> : > : "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> : > : news:cW0Ve.10427$_84.5306@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> : > : > news:-NadnRrRZM3U0rneRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> : > : > : 2" Spacer lift,
> : > : >
> : > : > Ok, then I will need steps, cause I am not that tall, but that's
> ok!
> : > : >
> : > : > new shocks,
> : > : > but, but, but these ARE new.
> : > : > Why do you say that AND what setup do you think is good and why?
> : > : >
> : > : > sway bar discos
> : > : > HUH ?? I know what a sway bar is, but I thought disco was dead!
> : > : >
> : > : > and a set of Goodyear MT/R's,
> : > : > I have GoodYear tires on it now, why the MTRs ?
> : > : >
> : > : > : you'll do OK.
> : > : > Thanks!
> : > : > :ŹD
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : > --
> : > : > Kate
> : > : > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
> : > : >
> : > : > :
> : > : > : Carl
> : > : > :
> : > : > : "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> : > : > : news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> : > : > : > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
> : > : > : > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of
> years
> : > : > though.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98
> Cobra
> : > drop
> : > : > top
> : > : > : > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
> : > : > : > I traded in my California car for something more regionally
> : > correct.
> : > : > : > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter
> for
> : > a
> : > : > bit
> : > : > : but
> : > : > : > I will get used to it.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the
> : > Liberty
> : > : > for
> : > : > : > comfort, style and versitility.
> : > : > : > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option -
> Mud
> : > and
> : > : > doing
> : > : > : > some exploring.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing
> with
> : > their
> : > : > : > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out
> and
> : > go
> : > : > : > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > Oh!
> : > : > : > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken,
> : > opinionated,
> : > : > Irish
> : > : > : > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually
> a
> : > : > : republican.
> : > : > : > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and
> : > sport
> : > : > and
> : > : > : > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : > --
> : > : > : > Kate
> : > : > : > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : >
> : > : > : >
> : > : > :
> : > : > :
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > :
> : > :
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
>
>