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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-17-2003 12:13 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
Bull Sh*t! Don't put Ford in with your daimler's nazi gestapo
tactics. The Triumph's Thunderbird is alive and well:
http://www.hermys.com/triumph/thunderbirdsport/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Hall wrote:
>
> Consider this.. if you or Nathan had a thriving parts/clothes business with
> a good reputation (real or 'in the mind') and I started up a similar
> business using your names but selling possibly sub-standard stuff of the
> same type, how would you feel about that?.. DC want to protect their image,
> and have some or complete control over the quality of stuff sold in that
> image.. I am in no way suggesting that either of you are guilty of selling
> junk, BTW..
>
> Many years ago, Ford America stopped a small British motorcycle company from
> using the name 'Thunderbird'.. one could hardly mistake a British Triumph
> 650 motorcycle with a Ford Thunderbird of the era, but stop it they did.. it
> is not just German companies that do this kind of thing..
>
> --
> History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-17-2003 12:13 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
Bull Sh*t! Don't put Ford in with your daimler's nazi gestapo
tactics. The Triumph's Thunderbird is alive and well:
http://www.hermys.com/triumph/thunderbirdsport/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Hall wrote:
>
> Consider this.. if you or Nathan had a thriving parts/clothes business with
> a good reputation (real or 'in the mind') and I started up a similar
> business using your names but selling possibly sub-standard stuff of the
> same type, how would you feel about that?.. DC want to protect their image,
> and have some or complete control over the quality of stuff sold in that
> image.. I am in no way suggesting that either of you are guilty of selling
> junk, BTW..
>
> Many years ago, Ford America stopped a small British motorcycle company from
> using the name 'Thunderbird'.. one could hardly mistake a British Triumph
> 650 motorcycle with a Ford Thunderbird of the era, but stop it they did.. it
> is not just German companies that do this kind of thing..
>
> --
> History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..


Matt Macchiarolo 12-17-2003 01:27 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
In article <c0500d7c.0312170813.4a01f9ec@posting.google.com >,
Jason90715@yahoo.com (Jason Williams) writes:

>I fully agree with with idea of protecting ones rights and once I
>contact the trademark department at DC, I'll see what my options are.


You have the option to either stop the trademark process, or go through with
the trademark and see what they'll do.

>Do they want to work with me?


Most likely, not. You don't own the trademark so you can't sell or license it
yet.

If you really wanted to pursue this, advice from a qualified attorney would be
very beneficial.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html





Matt Macchiarolo 12-17-2003 01:27 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
In article <c0500d7c.0312170813.4a01f9ec@posting.google.com >,
Jason90715@yahoo.com (Jason Williams) writes:

>I fully agree with with idea of protecting ones rights and once I
>contact the trademark department at DC, I'll see what my options are.


You have the option to either stop the trademark process, or go through with
the trademark and see what they'll do.

>Do they want to work with me?


Most likely, not. You don't own the trademark so you can't sell or license it
yet.

If you really wanted to pursue this, advice from a qualified attorney would be
very beneficial.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html





Matt Macchiarolo 12-17-2003 01:27 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
In article <c0500d7c.0312170813.4a01f9ec@posting.google.com >,
Jason90715@yahoo.com (Jason Williams) writes:

>I fully agree with with idea of protecting ones rights and once I
>contact the trademark department at DC, I'll see what my options are.


You have the option to either stop the trademark process, or go through with
the trademark and see what they'll do.

>Do they want to work with me?


Most likely, not. You don't own the trademark so you can't sell or license it
yet.

If you really wanted to pursue this, advice from a qualified attorney would be
very beneficial.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html





Mike Hall 12-17-2003 02:00 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
I made reference to the 1960's Triumph, not the one circulating now.. and
Trademark/copyright infringement is the same all over the world..

--
History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3FE08EC7.BB0B2482@cox.net...
> Bull Sh*t! Don't put Ford in with your daimler's nazi gestapo
> tactics. The Triumph's Thunderbird is alive and well:
> http://www.hermys.com/triumph/thunderbirdsport/
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Hall wrote:
> >
> > Consider this.. if you or Nathan had a thriving parts/clothes business

with
> > a good reputation (real or 'in the mind') and I started up a similar
> > business using your names but selling possibly sub-standard stuff of the
> > same type, how would you feel about that?.. DC want to protect their

image,
> > and have some or complete control over the quality of stuff sold in that
> > image.. I am in no way suggesting that either of you are guilty of

selling
> > junk, BTW..
> >
> > Many years ago, Ford America stopped a small British motorcycle company

from
> > using the name 'Thunderbird'.. one could hardly mistake a British

Triumph
> > 650 motorcycle with a Ford Thunderbird of the era, but stop it they

did.. it
> > is not just German companies that do this kind of thing..
> >
> > --
> > History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..




Mike Hall 12-17-2003 02:00 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
I made reference to the 1960's Triumph, not the one circulating now.. and
Trademark/copyright infringement is the same all over the world..

--
History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3FE08EC7.BB0B2482@cox.net...
> Bull Sh*t! Don't put Ford in with your daimler's nazi gestapo
> tactics. The Triumph's Thunderbird is alive and well:
> http://www.hermys.com/triumph/thunderbirdsport/
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Hall wrote:
> >
> > Consider this.. if you or Nathan had a thriving parts/clothes business

with
> > a good reputation (real or 'in the mind') and I started up a similar
> > business using your names but selling possibly sub-standard stuff of the
> > same type, how would you feel about that?.. DC want to protect their

image,
> > and have some or complete control over the quality of stuff sold in that
> > image.. I am in no way suggesting that either of you are guilty of

selling
> > junk, BTW..
> >
> > Many years ago, Ford America stopped a small British motorcycle company

from
> > using the name 'Thunderbird'.. one could hardly mistake a British

Triumph
> > 650 motorcycle with a Ford Thunderbird of the era, but stop it they

did.. it
> > is not just German companies that do this kind of thing..
> >
> > --
> > History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..




Mike Hall 12-17-2003 02:00 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
I made reference to the 1960's Triumph, not the one circulating now.. and
Trademark/copyright infringement is the same all over the world..

--
History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3FE08EC7.BB0B2482@cox.net...
> Bull Sh*t! Don't put Ford in with your daimler's nazi gestapo
> tactics. The Triumph's Thunderbird is alive and well:
> http://www.hermys.com/triumph/thunderbirdsport/
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Hall wrote:
> >
> > Consider this.. if you or Nathan had a thriving parts/clothes business

with
> > a good reputation (real or 'in the mind') and I started up a similar
> > business using your names but selling possibly sub-standard stuff of the
> > same type, how would you feel about that?.. DC want to protect their

image,
> > and have some or complete control over the quality of stuff sold in that
> > image.. I am in no way suggesting that either of you are guilty of

selling
> > junk, BTW..
> >
> > Many years ago, Ford America stopped a small British motorcycle company

from
> > using the name 'Thunderbird'.. one could hardly mistake a British

Triumph
> > 650 motorcycle with a Ford Thunderbird of the era, but stop it they

did.. it
> > is not just German companies that do this kind of thing..
> >
> > --
> > History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..




Mike Romain 12-17-2003 02:08 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
That is also why there are no 'Wrangler' Jeeps in Canada. They are YJ's
or TJ's only.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mike Hall wrote:
>
> I made reference to the 1960's Triumph, not the one circulating now.. and
> Trademark/copyright infringement is the same all over the world..
>
> --
> History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:3FE08EC7.BB0B2482@cox.net...
> > Bull Sh*t! Don't put Ford in with your daimler's nazi gestapo
> > tactics. The Triumph's Thunderbird is alive and well:
> > http://www.hermys.com/triumph/thunderbirdsport/
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Mike Hall wrote:
> > >
> > > Consider this.. if you or Nathan had a thriving parts/clothes business

> with
> > > a good reputation (real or 'in the mind') and I started up a similar
> > > business using your names but selling possibly sub-standard stuff of the
> > > same type, how would you feel about that?.. DC want to protect their

> image,
> > > and have some or complete control over the quality of stuff sold in that
> > > image.. I am in no way suggesting that either of you are guilty of

> selling
> > > junk, BTW..
> > >
> > > Many years ago, Ford America stopped a small British motorcycle company

> from
> > > using the name 'Thunderbird'.. one could hardly mistake a British

> Triumph
> > > 650 motorcycle with a Ford Thunderbird of the era, but stop it they

> did.. it
> > > is not just German companies that do this kind of thing..
> > >
> > > --
> > > History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..


Mike Romain 12-17-2003 02:08 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
That is also why there are no 'Wrangler' Jeeps in Canada. They are YJ's
or TJ's only.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mike Hall wrote:
>
> I made reference to the 1960's Triumph, not the one circulating now.. and
> Trademark/copyright infringement is the same all over the world..
>
> --
> History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:3FE08EC7.BB0B2482@cox.net...
> > Bull Sh*t! Don't put Ford in with your daimler's nazi gestapo
> > tactics. The Triumph's Thunderbird is alive and well:
> > http://www.hermys.com/triumph/thunderbirdsport/
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Mike Hall wrote:
> > >
> > > Consider this.. if you or Nathan had a thriving parts/clothes business

> with
> > > a good reputation (real or 'in the mind') and I started up a similar
> > > business using your names but selling possibly sub-standard stuff of the
> > > same type, how would you feel about that?.. DC want to protect their

> image,
> > > and have some or complete control over the quality of stuff sold in that
> > > image.. I am in no way suggesting that either of you are guilty of

> selling
> > > junk, BTW..
> > >
> > > Many years ago, Ford America stopped a small British motorcycle company

> from
> > > using the name 'Thunderbird'.. one could hardly mistake a British

> Triumph
> > > 650 motorcycle with a Ford Thunderbird of the era, but stop it they

> did.. it
> > > is not just German companies that do this kind of thing..
> > >
> > > --
> > > History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..



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