Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 

BMW has done the same to the Mini name....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

travis wrote:
>
> All of this stuff reminds me of the VWOA crap going on where VW is
> having their lawyers contact people who are doing as little as just
> displaying a VW logo on their non-profit website and telling them to
> remove it. Sounds like someone needs to clean house at VWOA and Jeep
> in the PR departments. Ridiculous.
>
> On 16 Dec 2003 15:54:25 -0800, Jason90715@yahoo.com (Jason Williams)
> shared the following:
>
> >Nathan,
> >I have followed your past dealings with DC and I can now feel your
> >pain. My wife has always refered to me and my Jeep'n buddies as 'Jeep
> >Creeps'. What other group of people will waive at total strangers
> >just because of what they drive? She always, still does, when I
> >return or initiate a 'Jeep Wave'. she then started calling us
> >Jeeples. Well, she decided to start a business called Jeeples. With
> >a slogan of "A different kind of people". She applied for a trademark
> >of Jeeples. We just recieve this today.
> >
> >"We are trademark counsel for DaimlerChrysler Corporation. As you are
> >no
> >doubt aware, DaimlerChrysler Corporation is the owner of the JEEP
> >trademark. In addition to using JEEP to identify vehicles,
> >DaimlerChrysler
> >uses JEEP trademark in connection with other products including, but
> >not
> >limited to, clothing, baby carriages, and toys. By virtue of
> >DaimlerChrysler's long use of JEEP and extensive advertising, JEEP has
> >become a well known, if not famous, trademark entitled to a broad
> >scope of
> >protection or exclusivity of use.
> >
> >It has come to DaimlerChrysler's attention that your application for
> >the
> >mark JEEPLES for clothing was published in the November 25, 2003 issue
> >of
> >the Trademark Official Gazette. On December 8, 2003, we filed a
> >request
> >for an extension of time to file a Notice of Opposition.
> >
> >In our opinion, your JEEPLES trademark is confusingly similar to the
> >JEEP
> >trademark and likely to cause confusion. Accordingly, DaimlerChrysler
> >respectfully requests that you expressly abandon that application and
> >cease
> >any plans to use the mark. If you do not expressly abandon the
> >application, DaimlerChrysler will have no choice but file a Notice of
> >Opposition. Moreover, if you begin to use the mark on clothing,
> >DaimlerChrysler will not hesitate to assert its legal and equitable
> >rights.
> >
> >We hope that this issue may be resolved on an amicable basis. If you,
> >or
> >your legal counsel, have any questions, please do not hesitate to
> >contact
> >me."
> >
> >At least I'm not out too much money.
> >I didn't think we would worry them too much as we are promoting Jeeps
> >in a positive style. You know, responsible off roading.
> >Oh well.
> >Jason
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> Do unto others. Then split.
> Happy trails!!!
> :wq!

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 

Del Rawlins <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message news:<20031216161550438-0900@news.newsguy.com>...
> Knowing what you obviously already knew, how could you have expected
> anything else from D-C?
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/

Yes and no. Of course knowing full well that without Jeep or me
owning one, the idea wouldn't have been born. It was just a way of
identifing myself with other Jeep enthusiasts. And if we made a
little something for the shirts, hey, fun stuff.
The word Jeeples once was used back in the 70's for a line of
children's toys. They were little people characters. If it was used
once before and the trademark expired, what was the big deal. Let's
use that name.
I fully agree with with idea of protecting ones rights and once I
contact the trademark department at DC, I'll see what my options are.
Do they want to work with me? I originally thought this would be
treated like a club type of thing. Maybe trying to trademark the name
is what took it too far. Hey, live and learn. Life is too short to
not have some sort of trials and tribulations.

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 

Del Rawlins <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message news:<20031216161550438-0900@news.newsguy.com>...
> Knowing what you obviously already knew, how could you have expected
> anything else from D-C?
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/

Yes and no. Of course knowing full well that without Jeep or me
owning one, the idea wouldn't have been born. It was just a way of
identifing myself with other Jeep enthusiasts. And if we made a
little something for the shirts, hey, fun stuff.
The word Jeeples once was used back in the 70's for a line of
children's toys. They were little people characters. If it was used
once before and the trademark expired, what was the big deal. Let's
use that name.
I fully agree with with idea of protecting ones rights and once I
contact the trademark department at DC, I'll see what my options are.
Do they want to work with me? I originally thought this would be
treated like a club type of thing. Maybe trying to trademark the name
is what took it too far. Hey, live and learn. Life is too short to
not have some sort of trials and tribulations.

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 

Del Rawlins <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message news:<20031216161550438-0900@news.newsguy.com>...
> Knowing what you obviously already knew, how could you have expected
> anything else from D-C?
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/

Yes and no. Of course knowing full well that without Jeep or me
owning one, the idea wouldn't have been born. It was just a way of
identifing myself with other Jeep enthusiasts. And if we made a
little something for the shirts, hey, fun stuff.
The word Jeeples once was used back in the 70's for a line of
children's toys. They were little people characters. If it was used
once before and the trademark expired, what was the big deal. Let's
use that name.
I fully agree with with idea of protecting ones rights and once I
contact the trademark department at DC, I'll see what my options are.
Do they want to work with me? I originally thought this would be
treated like a club type of thing. Maybe trying to trademark the name
is what took it too far. Hey, live and learn. Life is too short to
not have some sort of trials and tribulations.

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 

Just call it Jeples (with a line over the first "e"). Pronounced like
jeeples but not the same spelling...

"Jason Williams" <Jason90715@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c0500d7c.0312170813.4a01f9ec@posting.google.c om...
> Del Rawlins <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
news:<20031216161550438-0900@news.newsguy.com>...
> > Knowing what you obviously already knew, how could you have expected
> > anything else from D-C?
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
>
> Yes and no. Of course knowing full well that without Jeep or me
> owning one, the idea wouldn't have been born. It was just a way of
> identifing myself with other Jeep enthusiasts. And if we made a
> little something for the shirts, hey, fun stuff.
> The word Jeeples once was used back in the 70's for a line of
> children's toys. They were little people characters. If it was used
> once before and the trademark expired, what was the big deal. Let's
> use that name.
> I fully agree with with idea of protecting ones rights and once I
> contact the trademark department at DC, I'll see what my options are.
> Do they want to work with me? I originally thought this would be
> treated like a club type of thing. Maybe trying to trademark the name
> is what took it too far. Hey, live and learn. Life is too short to
> not have some sort of trials and tribulations.

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 

Just call it Jeples (with a line over the first "e"). Pronounced like
jeeples but not the same spelling...

"Jason Williams" <Jason90715@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c0500d7c.0312170813.4a01f9ec@posting.google.c om...
> Del Rawlins <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
news:<20031216161550438-0900@news.newsguy.com>...
> > Knowing what you obviously already knew, how could you have expected
> > anything else from D-C?
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
>
> Yes and no. Of course knowing full well that without Jeep or me
> owning one, the idea wouldn't have been born. It was just a way of
> identifing myself with other Jeep enthusiasts. And if we made a
> little something for the shirts, hey, fun stuff.
> The word Jeeples once was used back in the 70's for a line of
> children's toys. They were little people characters. If it was used
> once before and the trademark expired, what was the big deal. Let's
> use that name.
> I fully agree with with idea of protecting ones rights and once I
> contact the trademark department at DC, I'll see what my options are.
> Do they want to work with me? I originally thought this would be
> treated like a club type of thing. Maybe trying to trademark the name
> is what took it too far. Hey, live and learn. Life is too short to
> not have some sort of trials and tribulations.

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 

Just call it Jeples (with a line over the first "e"). Pronounced like
jeeples but not the same spelling...

"Jason Williams" <Jason90715@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c0500d7c.0312170813.4a01f9ec@posting.google.c om...
> Del Rawlins <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
news:<20031216161550438-0900@news.newsguy.com>...
> > Knowing what you obviously already knew, how could you have expected
> > anything else from D-C?
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
>
> Yes and no. Of course knowing full well that without Jeep or me
> owning one, the idea wouldn't have been born. It was just a way of
> identifing myself with other Jeep enthusiasts. And if we made a
> little something for the shirts, hey, fun stuff.
> The word Jeeples once was used back in the 70's for a line of
> children's toys. They were little people characters. If it was used
> once before and the trademark expired, what was the big deal. Let's
> use that name.
> I fully agree with with idea of protecting ones rights and once I
> contact the trademark department at DC, I'll see what my options are.
> Do they want to work with me? I originally thought this would be
> treated like a club type of thing. Maybe trying to trademark the name
> is what took it too far. Hey, live and learn. Life is too short to
> not have some sort of trials and tribulations.

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 

Consider this.. if you or Nathan had a thriving parts/clothes business with
a good reputation (real or 'in the mind') and I started up a similar
business using your names but selling possibly sub-standard stuff of the
same type, how would you feel about that?.. DC want to protect their image,
and have some or complete control over the quality of stuff sold in that
image.. I am in no way suggesting that either of you are guilty of selling
junk, BTW..

Many years ago, Ford America stopped a small British motorcycle company from
using the name 'Thunderbird'.. one could hardly mistake a British Triumph
650 motorcycle with a Ford Thunderbird of the era, but stop it they did.. it
is not just German companies that do this kind of thing..

--
History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..

"Jason Williams" <Jason90715@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c0500d7c.0312161554.2982a297@posting.google.c om...
> Nathan,
> I have followed your past dealings with DC and I can now feel your
> pain. My wife has always refered to me and my Jeep'n buddies as 'Jeep
> Creeps'. What other group of people will waive at total strangers
> just because of what they drive? She always, still does, when I
> return or initiate a 'Jeep Wave'. she then started calling us
> Jeeples. Well, she decided to start a business called Jeeples. With
> a slogan of "A different kind of people". She applied for a trademark
> of Jeeples. We just recieve this today.
>
> "We are trademark counsel for DaimlerChrysler Corporation. As you are
> no
> doubt aware, DaimlerChrysler Corporation is the owner of the JEEP
> trademark. In addition to using JEEP to identify vehicles,
> DaimlerChrysler
> uses JEEP trademark in connection with other products including, but
> not
> limited to, clothing, baby carriages, and toys. By virtue of
> DaimlerChrysler's long use of JEEP and extensive advertising, JEEP has
> become a well known, if not famous, trademark entitled to a broad
> scope of
> protection or exclusivity of use.
>
> It has come to DaimlerChrysler's attention that your application for
> the
> mark JEEPLES for clothing was published in the November 25, 2003 issue
> of
> the Trademark Official Gazette. On December 8, 2003, we filed a
> request
> for an extension of time to file a Notice of Opposition.
>
> In our opinion, your JEEPLES trademark is confusingly similar to the
> JEEP
> trademark and likely to cause confusion. Accordingly, DaimlerChrysler
> respectfully requests that you expressly abandon that application and
> cease
> any plans to use the mark. If you do not expressly abandon the
> application, DaimlerChrysler will have no choice but file a Notice of
> Opposition. Moreover, if you begin to use the mark on clothing,
> DaimlerChrysler will not hesitate to assert its legal and equitable
> rights.
>
> We hope that this issue may be resolved on an amicable basis. If you,
> or
> your legal counsel, have any questions, please do not hesitate to
> contact
> me."
>
> At least I'm not out too much money.
> I didn't think we would worry them too much as we are promoting Jeeps
> in a positive style. You know, responsible off roading.
> Oh well.
> Jason

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 

Consider this.. if you or Nathan had a thriving parts/clothes business with
a good reputation (real or 'in the mind') and I started up a similar
business using your names but selling possibly sub-standard stuff of the
same type, how would you feel about that?.. DC want to protect their image,
and have some or complete control over the quality of stuff sold in that
image.. I am in no way suggesting that either of you are guilty of selling
junk, BTW..

Many years ago, Ford America stopped a small British motorcycle company from
using the name 'Thunderbird'.. one could hardly mistake a British Triumph
650 motorcycle with a Ford Thunderbird of the era, but stop it they did.. it
is not just German companies that do this kind of thing..

--
History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..

"Jason Williams" <Jason90715@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c0500d7c.0312161554.2982a297@posting.google.c om...
> Nathan,
> I have followed your past dealings with DC and I can now feel your
> pain. My wife has always refered to me and my Jeep'n buddies as 'Jeep
> Creeps'. What other group of people will waive at total strangers
> just because of what they drive? She always, still does, when I
> return or initiate a 'Jeep Wave'. she then started calling us
> Jeeples. Well, she decided to start a business called Jeeples. With
> a slogan of "A different kind of people". She applied for a trademark
> of Jeeples. We just recieve this today.
>
> "We are trademark counsel for DaimlerChrysler Corporation. As you are
> no
> doubt aware, DaimlerChrysler Corporation is the owner of the JEEP
> trademark. In addition to using JEEP to identify vehicles,
> DaimlerChrysler
> uses JEEP trademark in connection with other products including, but
> not
> limited to, clothing, baby carriages, and toys. By virtue of
> DaimlerChrysler's long use of JEEP and extensive advertising, JEEP has
> become a well known, if not famous, trademark entitled to a broad
> scope of
> protection or exclusivity of use.
>
> It has come to DaimlerChrysler's attention that your application for
> the
> mark JEEPLES for clothing was published in the November 25, 2003 issue
> of
> the Trademark Official Gazette. On December 8, 2003, we filed a
> request
> for an extension of time to file a Notice of Opposition.
>
> In our opinion, your JEEPLES trademark is confusingly similar to the
> JEEP
> trademark and likely to cause confusion. Accordingly, DaimlerChrysler
> respectfully requests that you expressly abandon that application and
> cease
> any plans to use the mark. If you do not expressly abandon the
> application, DaimlerChrysler will have no choice but file a Notice of
> Opposition. Moreover, if you begin to use the mark on clothing,
> DaimlerChrysler will not hesitate to assert its legal and equitable
> rights.
>
> We hope that this issue may be resolved on an amicable basis. If you,
> or
> your legal counsel, have any questions, please do not hesitate to
> contact
> me."
>
> At least I'm not out too much money.
> I didn't think we would worry them too much as we are promoting Jeeps
> in a positive style. You know, responsible off roading.
> Oh well.
> Jason

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 

Consider this.. if you or Nathan had a thriving parts/clothes business with
a good reputation (real or 'in the mind') and I started up a similar
business using your names but selling possibly sub-standard stuff of the
same type, how would you feel about that?.. DC want to protect their image,
and have some or complete control over the quality of stuff sold in that
image.. I am in no way suggesting that either of you are guilty of selling
junk, BTW..

Many years ago, Ford America stopped a small British motorcycle company from
using the name 'Thunderbird'.. one could hardly mistake a British Triumph
650 motorcycle with a Ford Thunderbird of the era, but stop it they did.. it
is not just German companies that do this kind of thing..

--
History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..

"Jason Williams" <Jason90715@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c0500d7c.0312161554.2982a297@posting.google.c om...
> Nathan,
> I have followed your past dealings with DC and I can now feel your
> pain. My wife has always refered to me and my Jeep'n buddies as 'Jeep
> Creeps'. What other group of people will waive at total strangers
> just because of what they drive? She always, still does, when I
> return or initiate a 'Jeep Wave'. she then started calling us
> Jeeples. Well, she decided to start a business called Jeeples. With
> a slogan of "A different kind of people". She applied for a trademark
> of Jeeples. We just recieve this today.
>
> "We are trademark counsel for DaimlerChrysler Corporation. As you are
> no
> doubt aware, DaimlerChrysler Corporation is the owner of the JEEP
> trademark. In addition to using JEEP to identify vehicles,
> DaimlerChrysler
> uses JEEP trademark in connection with other products including, but
> not
> limited to, clothing, baby carriages, and toys. By virtue of
> DaimlerChrysler's long use of JEEP and extensive advertising, JEEP has
> become a well known, if not famous, trademark entitled to a broad
> scope of
> protection or exclusivity of use.
>
> It has come to DaimlerChrysler's attention that your application for
> the
> mark JEEPLES for clothing was published in the November 25, 2003 issue
> of
> the Trademark Official Gazette. On December 8, 2003, we filed a
> request
> for an extension of time to file a Notice of Opposition.
>
> In our opinion, your JEEPLES trademark is confusingly similar to the
> JEEP
> trademark and likely to cause confusion. Accordingly, DaimlerChrysler
> respectfully requests that you expressly abandon that application and
> cease
> any plans to use the mark. If you do not expressly abandon the
> application, DaimlerChrysler will have no choice but file a Notice of
> Opposition. Moreover, if you begin to use the mark on clothing,
> DaimlerChrysler will not hesitate to assert its legal and equitable
> rights.
>
> We hope that this issue may be resolved on an amicable basis. If you,
> or
> your legal counsel, have any questions, please do not hesitate to
> contact
> me."
>
> At least I'm not out too much money.
> I didn't think we would worry them too much as we are promoting Jeeps
> in a positive style. You know, responsible off roading.
> Oh well.
> Jason