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Jason Williams 12-16-2003 06:54 PM

Hello Nathan Collier
 
Nathan,
I have followed your past dealings with DC and I can now feel your
pain. My wife has always refered to me and my Jeep'n buddies as 'Jeep
Creeps'. What other group of people will waive at total strangers
just because of what they drive? She always, still does, when I
return or initiate a 'Jeep Wave'. she then started calling us
Jeeples. Well, she decided to start a business called Jeeples. With
a slogan of "A different kind of people". She applied for a trademark
of Jeeples. We just recieve this today.

"We are trademark counsel for DaimlerChrysler Corporation. As you are
no
doubt aware, DaimlerChrysler Corporation is the owner of the JEEP
trademark. In addition to using JEEP to identify vehicles,
DaimlerChrysler
uses JEEP trademark in connection with other products including, but
not
limited to, clothing, baby carriages, and toys. By virtue of
DaimlerChrysler's long use of JEEP and extensive advertising, JEEP has
become a well known, if not famous, trademark entitled to a broad
scope of
protection or exclusivity of use.

It has come to DaimlerChrysler's attention that your application for
the
mark JEEPLES for clothing was published in the November 25, 2003 issue
of
the Trademark Official Gazette. On December 8, 2003, we filed a
request
for an extension of time to file a Notice of Opposition.

In our opinion, your JEEPLES trademark is confusingly similar to the
JEEP
trademark and likely to cause confusion. Accordingly, DaimlerChrysler
respectfully requests that you expressly abandon that application and
cease
any plans to use the mark. If you do not expressly abandon the
application, DaimlerChrysler will have no choice but file a Notice of
Opposition. Moreover, if you begin to use the mark on clothing,
DaimlerChrysler will not hesitate to assert its legal and equitable
rights.

We hope that this issue may be resolved on an amicable basis. If you,
or
your legal counsel, have any questions, please do not hesitate to
contact
me."

At least I'm not out too much money.
I didn't think we would worry them too much as we are promoting Jeeps
in a positive style. You know, responsible off roading.
Oh well.
Jason

travis 12-16-2003 07:25 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
All of this stuff reminds me of the VWOA crap going on where VW is
having their lawyers contact people who are doing as little as just
displaying a VW logo on their non-profit website and telling them to
remove it. Sounds like someone needs to clean house at VWOA and Jeep
in the PR departments. Ridiculous.


On 16 Dec 2003 15:54:25 -0800, Jason90715@yahoo.com (Jason Williams)
shared the following:

>Nathan,
>I have followed your past dealings with DC and I can now feel your
>pain. My wife has always refered to me and my Jeep'n buddies as 'Jeep
>Creeps'. What other group of people will waive at total strangers
>just because of what they drive? She always, still does, when I
>return or initiate a 'Jeep Wave'. she then started calling us
>Jeeples. Well, she decided to start a business called Jeeples. With
>a slogan of "A different kind of people". She applied for a trademark
>of Jeeples. We just recieve this today.
>
>"We are trademark counsel for DaimlerChrysler Corporation. As you are
>no
>doubt aware, DaimlerChrysler Corporation is the owner of the JEEP
>trademark. In addition to using JEEP to identify vehicles,
>DaimlerChrysler
>uses JEEP trademark in connection with other products including, but
>not
>limited to, clothing, baby carriages, and toys. By virtue of
>DaimlerChrysler's long use of JEEP and extensive advertising, JEEP has
>become a well known, if not famous, trademark entitled to a broad
>scope of
>protection or exclusivity of use.
>
>It has come to DaimlerChrysler's attention that your application for
>the
>mark JEEPLES for clothing was published in the November 25, 2003 issue
>of
>the Trademark Official Gazette. On December 8, 2003, we filed a
>request
>for an extension of time to file a Notice of Opposition.
>
>In our opinion, your JEEPLES trademark is confusingly similar to the
>JEEP
>trademark and likely to cause confusion. Accordingly, DaimlerChrysler
>respectfully requests that you expressly abandon that application and
>cease
>any plans to use the mark. If you do not expressly abandon the
>application, DaimlerChrysler will have no choice but file a Notice of
>Opposition. Moreover, if you begin to use the mark on clothing,
>DaimlerChrysler will not hesitate to assert its legal and equitable
>rights.
>
>We hope that this issue may be resolved on an amicable basis. If you,
>or
>your legal counsel, have any questions, please do not hesitate to
>contact
>me."
>
>At least I'm not out too much money.
>I didn't think we would worry them too much as we are promoting Jeeps
>in a positive style. You know, responsible off roading.
>Oh well.
>Jason



--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
Do unto others. Then split.
Happy trails!!!
:wq!

travis 12-16-2003 07:25 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
All of this stuff reminds me of the VWOA crap going on where VW is
having their lawyers contact people who are doing as little as just
displaying a VW logo on their non-profit website and telling them to
remove it. Sounds like someone needs to clean house at VWOA and Jeep
in the PR departments. Ridiculous.


On 16 Dec 2003 15:54:25 -0800, Jason90715@yahoo.com (Jason Williams)
shared the following:

>Nathan,
>I have followed your past dealings with DC and I can now feel your
>pain. My wife has always refered to me and my Jeep'n buddies as 'Jeep
>Creeps'. What other group of people will waive at total strangers
>just because of what they drive? She always, still does, when I
>return or initiate a 'Jeep Wave'. she then started calling us
>Jeeples. Well, she decided to start a business called Jeeples. With
>a slogan of "A different kind of people". She applied for a trademark
>of Jeeples. We just recieve this today.
>
>"We are trademark counsel for DaimlerChrysler Corporation. As you are
>no
>doubt aware, DaimlerChrysler Corporation is the owner of the JEEP
>trademark. In addition to using JEEP to identify vehicles,
>DaimlerChrysler
>uses JEEP trademark in connection with other products including, but
>not
>limited to, clothing, baby carriages, and toys. By virtue of
>DaimlerChrysler's long use of JEEP and extensive advertising, JEEP has
>become a well known, if not famous, trademark entitled to a broad
>scope of
>protection or exclusivity of use.
>
>It has come to DaimlerChrysler's attention that your application for
>the
>mark JEEPLES for clothing was published in the November 25, 2003 issue
>of
>the Trademark Official Gazette. On December 8, 2003, we filed a
>request
>for an extension of time to file a Notice of Opposition.
>
>In our opinion, your JEEPLES trademark is confusingly similar to the
>JEEP
>trademark and likely to cause confusion. Accordingly, DaimlerChrysler
>respectfully requests that you expressly abandon that application and
>cease
>any plans to use the mark. If you do not expressly abandon the
>application, DaimlerChrysler will have no choice but file a Notice of
>Opposition. Moreover, if you begin to use the mark on clothing,
>DaimlerChrysler will not hesitate to assert its legal and equitable
>rights.
>
>We hope that this issue may be resolved on an amicable basis. If you,
>or
>your legal counsel, have any questions, please do not hesitate to
>contact
>me."
>
>At least I'm not out too much money.
>I didn't think we would worry them too much as we are promoting Jeeps
>in a positive style. You know, responsible off roading.
>Oh well.
>Jason



--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
Do unto others. Then split.
Happy trails!!!
:wq!

travis 12-16-2003 07:25 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
All of this stuff reminds me of the VWOA crap going on where VW is
having their lawyers contact people who are doing as little as just
displaying a VW logo on their non-profit website and telling them to
remove it. Sounds like someone needs to clean house at VWOA and Jeep
in the PR departments. Ridiculous.


On 16 Dec 2003 15:54:25 -0800, Jason90715@yahoo.com (Jason Williams)
shared the following:

>Nathan,
>I have followed your past dealings with DC and I can now feel your
>pain. My wife has always refered to me and my Jeep'n buddies as 'Jeep
>Creeps'. What other group of people will waive at total strangers
>just because of what they drive? She always, still does, when I
>return or initiate a 'Jeep Wave'. she then started calling us
>Jeeples. Well, she decided to start a business called Jeeples. With
>a slogan of "A different kind of people". She applied for a trademark
>of Jeeples. We just recieve this today.
>
>"We are trademark counsel for DaimlerChrysler Corporation. As you are
>no
>doubt aware, DaimlerChrysler Corporation is the owner of the JEEP
>trademark. In addition to using JEEP to identify vehicles,
>DaimlerChrysler
>uses JEEP trademark in connection with other products including, but
>not
>limited to, clothing, baby carriages, and toys. By virtue of
>DaimlerChrysler's long use of JEEP and extensive advertising, JEEP has
>become a well known, if not famous, trademark entitled to a broad
>scope of
>protection or exclusivity of use.
>
>It has come to DaimlerChrysler's attention that your application for
>the
>mark JEEPLES for clothing was published in the November 25, 2003 issue
>of
>the Trademark Official Gazette. On December 8, 2003, we filed a
>request
>for an extension of time to file a Notice of Opposition.
>
>In our opinion, your JEEPLES trademark is confusingly similar to the
>JEEP
>trademark and likely to cause confusion. Accordingly, DaimlerChrysler
>respectfully requests that you expressly abandon that application and
>cease
>any plans to use the mark. If you do not expressly abandon the
>application, DaimlerChrysler will have no choice but file a Notice of
>Opposition. Moreover, if you begin to use the mark on clothing,
>DaimlerChrysler will not hesitate to assert its legal and equitable
>rights.
>
>We hope that this issue may be resolved on an amicable basis. If you,
>or
>your legal counsel, have any questions, please do not hesitate to
>contact
>me."
>
>At least I'm not out too much money.
>I didn't think we would worry them too much as we are promoting Jeeps
>in a positive style. You know, responsible off roading.
>Oh well.
>Jason



--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
Do unto others. Then split.
Happy trails!!!
:wq!

Tim Hayes 12-16-2003 08:17 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
In Germany there is no "freedom of speech" such as we have here. Both DC
and VW are German owned and managed. Perhaps those two things are related?

I don't see Ford suing every maker of those windows stickers with their
logo being pissed on.

travis wrote:
> All of this stuff reminds me of the VWOA crap going on where VW is
> having their lawyers contact people who are doing as little as just
> displaying a VW logo on their non-profit website and telling them to
> remove it. Sounds like someone needs to clean house at VWOA and Jeep
> in the PR departments. Ridiculous.



Tim Hayes 12-16-2003 08:17 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
In Germany there is no "freedom of speech" such as we have here. Both DC
and VW are German owned and managed. Perhaps those two things are related?

I don't see Ford suing every maker of those windows stickers with their
logo being pissed on.

travis wrote:
> All of this stuff reminds me of the VWOA crap going on where VW is
> having their lawyers contact people who are doing as little as just
> displaying a VW logo on their non-profit website and telling them to
> remove it. Sounds like someone needs to clean house at VWOA and Jeep
> in the PR departments. Ridiculous.



Tim Hayes 12-16-2003 08:17 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
In Germany there is no "freedom of speech" such as we have here. Both DC
and VW are German owned and managed. Perhaps those two things are related?

I don't see Ford suing every maker of those windows stickers with their
logo being pissed on.

travis wrote:
> All of this stuff reminds me of the VWOA crap going on where VW is
> having their lawyers contact people who are doing as little as just
> displaying a VW logo on their non-profit website and telling them to
> remove it. Sounds like someone needs to clean house at VWOA and Jeep
> in the PR departments. Ridiculous.



Joe 12-16-2003 08:18 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
Why are you giving up? You didn't lose yet. If you do nothing, DC may file
a Notice of Opposition. So what? it costs you nothing and them something.
Sit tight and see what happens.
"Jason Williams" <Jason90715@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c0500d7c.0312161554.2982a297@posting.google.c om...
> Nathan,
> I have followed your past dealings with DC and I can now feel your
> pain. My wife has always refered to me and my Jeep'n buddies as 'Jeep
> Creeps'. What other group of people will waive at total strangers
> just because of what they drive? She always, still does, when I
> return or initiate a 'Jeep Wave'. she then started calling us
> Jeeples. Well, she decided to start a business called Jeeples. With
> a slogan of "A different kind of people". She applied for a trademark
> of Jeeples. We just recieve this today.
>
> "We are trademark counsel for DaimlerChrysler Corporation. As you are
> no
> doubt aware, DaimlerChrysler Corporation is the owner of the JEEP
> trademark. In addition to using JEEP to identify vehicles,
> DaimlerChrysler
> uses JEEP trademark in connection with other products including, but
> not
> limited to, clothing, baby carriages, and toys. By virtue of
> DaimlerChrysler's long use of JEEP and extensive advertising, JEEP has
> become a well known, if not famous, trademark entitled to a broad
> scope of
> protection or exclusivity of use.
>
> It has come to DaimlerChrysler's attention that your application for
> the
> mark JEEPLES for clothing was published in the November 25, 2003 issue
> of
> the Trademark Official Gazette. On December 8, 2003, we filed a
> request
> for an extension of time to file a Notice of Opposition.
>
> In our opinion, your JEEPLES trademark is confusingly similar to the
> JEEP
> trademark and likely to cause confusion. Accordingly, DaimlerChrysler
> respectfully requests that you expressly abandon that application and
> cease
> any plans to use the mark. If you do not expressly abandon the
> application, DaimlerChrysler will have no choice but file a Notice of
> Opposition. Moreover, if you begin to use the mark on clothing,
> DaimlerChrysler will not hesitate to assert its legal and equitable
> rights.
>
> We hope that this issue may be resolved on an amicable basis. If you,
> or
> your legal counsel, have any questions, please do not hesitate to
> contact
> me."
>
> At least I'm not out too much money.
> I didn't think we would worry them too much as we are promoting Jeeps
> in a positive style. You know, responsible off roading.
> Oh well.
> Jason




Joe 12-16-2003 08:18 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
Why are you giving up? You didn't lose yet. If you do nothing, DC may file
a Notice of Opposition. So what? it costs you nothing and them something.
Sit tight and see what happens.
"Jason Williams" <Jason90715@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c0500d7c.0312161554.2982a297@posting.google.c om...
> Nathan,
> I have followed your past dealings with DC and I can now feel your
> pain. My wife has always refered to me and my Jeep'n buddies as 'Jeep
> Creeps'. What other group of people will waive at total strangers
> just because of what they drive? She always, still does, when I
> return or initiate a 'Jeep Wave'. she then started calling us
> Jeeples. Well, she decided to start a business called Jeeples. With
> a slogan of "A different kind of people". She applied for a trademark
> of Jeeples. We just recieve this today.
>
> "We are trademark counsel for DaimlerChrysler Corporation. As you are
> no
> doubt aware, DaimlerChrysler Corporation is the owner of the JEEP
> trademark. In addition to using JEEP to identify vehicles,
> DaimlerChrysler
> uses JEEP trademark in connection with other products including, but
> not
> limited to, clothing, baby carriages, and toys. By virtue of
> DaimlerChrysler's long use of JEEP and extensive advertising, JEEP has
> become a well known, if not famous, trademark entitled to a broad
> scope of
> protection or exclusivity of use.
>
> It has come to DaimlerChrysler's attention that your application for
> the
> mark JEEPLES for clothing was published in the November 25, 2003 issue
> of
> the Trademark Official Gazette. On December 8, 2003, we filed a
> request
> for an extension of time to file a Notice of Opposition.
>
> In our opinion, your JEEPLES trademark is confusingly similar to the
> JEEP
> trademark and likely to cause confusion. Accordingly, DaimlerChrysler
> respectfully requests that you expressly abandon that application and
> cease
> any plans to use the mark. If you do not expressly abandon the
> application, DaimlerChrysler will have no choice but file a Notice of
> Opposition. Moreover, if you begin to use the mark on clothing,
> DaimlerChrysler will not hesitate to assert its legal and equitable
> rights.
>
> We hope that this issue may be resolved on an amicable basis. If you,
> or
> your legal counsel, have any questions, please do not hesitate to
> contact
> me."
>
> At least I'm not out too much money.
> I didn't think we would worry them too much as we are promoting Jeeps
> in a positive style. You know, responsible off roading.
> Oh well.
> Jason




Joe 12-16-2003 08:18 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
Why are you giving up? You didn't lose yet. If you do nothing, DC may file
a Notice of Opposition. So what? it costs you nothing and them something.
Sit tight and see what happens.
"Jason Williams" <Jason90715@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c0500d7c.0312161554.2982a297@posting.google.c om...
> Nathan,
> I have followed your past dealings with DC and I can now feel your
> pain. My wife has always refered to me and my Jeep'n buddies as 'Jeep
> Creeps'. What other group of people will waive at total strangers
> just because of what they drive? She always, still does, when I
> return or initiate a 'Jeep Wave'. she then started calling us
> Jeeples. Well, she decided to start a business called Jeeples. With
> a slogan of "A different kind of people". She applied for a trademark
> of Jeeples. We just recieve this today.
>
> "We are trademark counsel for DaimlerChrysler Corporation. As you are
> no
> doubt aware, DaimlerChrysler Corporation is the owner of the JEEP
> trademark. In addition to using JEEP to identify vehicles,
> DaimlerChrysler
> uses JEEP trademark in connection with other products including, but
> not
> limited to, clothing, baby carriages, and toys. By virtue of
> DaimlerChrysler's long use of JEEP and extensive advertising, JEEP has
> become a well known, if not famous, trademark entitled to a broad
> scope of
> protection or exclusivity of use.
>
> It has come to DaimlerChrysler's attention that your application for
> the
> mark JEEPLES for clothing was published in the November 25, 2003 issue
> of
> the Trademark Official Gazette. On December 8, 2003, we filed a
> request
> for an extension of time to file a Notice of Opposition.
>
> In our opinion, your JEEPLES trademark is confusingly similar to the
> JEEP
> trademark and likely to cause confusion. Accordingly, DaimlerChrysler
> respectfully requests that you expressly abandon that application and
> cease
> any plans to use the mark. If you do not expressly abandon the
> application, DaimlerChrysler will have no choice but file a Notice of
> Opposition. Moreover, if you begin to use the mark on clothing,
> DaimlerChrysler will not hesitate to assert its legal and equitable
> rights.
>
> We hope that this issue may be resolved on an amicable basis. If you,
> or
> your legal counsel, have any questions, please do not hesitate to
> contact
> me."
>
> At least I'm not out too much money.
> I didn't think we would worry them too much as we are promoting Jeeps
> in a positive style. You know, responsible off roading.
> Oh well.
> Jason




Del Rawlins 12-16-2003 08:19 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
Knowing what you obviously already knew, how could you have expected
anything else from D-C?

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Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
Knowing what you obviously already knew, how could you have expected
anything else from D-C?

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Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
Knowing what you obviously already knew, how could you have expected
anything else from D-C?

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Nathan Collier 12-16-2003 08:46 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
"Jason Williams" <Jason90715@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c0500d7c.0312161554.2982a297@posting.google.c om...
> "We are trademark counsel for DaimlerChrysler Corporation


jason,
ouch. 3 to 1 we see "jeeples" used by daimler in the near future. sorry to
hear about your run in....sorry to see them yet again biting the hand that
feeds them. if youd care to compare notes, contact me at
http://tinyurl.com/amfi

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com



As you are
> no
> doubt aware, DaimlerChrysler Corporation is the owner of the JEEP
> trademark. In addition to using JEEP to identify vehicles,
> DaimlerChrysler
> uses JEEP trademark in connection with other products including, but
> not
> limited to, clothing, baby carriages, and toys. By virtue of
> DaimlerChrysler's long use of JEEP and extensive advertising, JEEP has
> become a well known, if not famous, trademark entitled to a broad
> scope of
> protection or exclusivity of use.
>
> It has come to DaimlerChrysler's attention that your application for
> the
> mark JEEPLES for clothing was published in the November 25, 2003 issue
> of
> the Trademark Official Gazette. On December 8, 2003, we filed a
> request
> for an extension of time to file a Notice of Opposition.
>
> In our opinion, your JEEPLES trademark is confusingly similar to the
> JEEP
> trademark and likely to cause confusion. Accordingly, DaimlerChrysler
> respectfully requests that you expressly abandon that application and
> cease
> any plans to use the mark. If you do not expressly abandon the
> application, DaimlerChrysler will have no choice but file a Notice of
> Opposition. Moreover, if you begin to use the mark on clothing,
> DaimlerChrysler will not hesitate to assert its legal and equitable
> rights.
>
> We hope that this issue may be resolved on an amicable basis. If you,
> or
> your legal counsel, have any questions, please do not hesitate to
> contact
> me."
>
> At least I'm not out too much money.
> I didn't think we would worry them too much as we are promoting Jeeps
> in a positive style. You know, responsible off roading.
> Oh well.
> Jason




Nathan Collier 12-16-2003 08:46 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
"Jason Williams" <Jason90715@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c0500d7c.0312161554.2982a297@posting.google.c om...
> "We are trademark counsel for DaimlerChrysler Corporation


jason,
ouch. 3 to 1 we see "jeeples" used by daimler in the near future. sorry to
hear about your run in....sorry to see them yet again biting the hand that
feeds them. if youd care to compare notes, contact me at
http://tinyurl.com/amfi

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com



As you are
> no
> doubt aware, DaimlerChrysler Corporation is the owner of the JEEP
> trademark. In addition to using JEEP to identify vehicles,
> DaimlerChrysler
> uses JEEP trademark in connection with other products including, but
> not
> limited to, clothing, baby carriages, and toys. By virtue of
> DaimlerChrysler's long use of JEEP and extensive advertising, JEEP has
> become a well known, if not famous, trademark entitled to a broad
> scope of
> protection or exclusivity of use.
>
> It has come to DaimlerChrysler's attention that your application for
> the
> mark JEEPLES for clothing was published in the November 25, 2003 issue
> of
> the Trademark Official Gazette. On December 8, 2003, we filed a
> request
> for an extension of time to file a Notice of Opposition.
>
> In our opinion, your JEEPLES trademark is confusingly similar to the
> JEEP
> trademark and likely to cause confusion. Accordingly, DaimlerChrysler
> respectfully requests that you expressly abandon that application and
> cease
> any plans to use the mark. If you do not expressly abandon the
> application, DaimlerChrysler will have no choice but file a Notice of
> Opposition. Moreover, if you begin to use the mark on clothing,
> DaimlerChrysler will not hesitate to assert its legal and equitable
> rights.
>
> We hope that this issue may be resolved on an amicable basis. If you,
> or
> your legal counsel, have any questions, please do not hesitate to
> contact
> me."
>
> At least I'm not out too much money.
> I didn't think we would worry them too much as we are promoting Jeeps
> in a positive style. You know, responsible off roading.
> Oh well.
> Jason




Nathan Collier 12-16-2003 08:46 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
"Jason Williams" <Jason90715@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c0500d7c.0312161554.2982a297@posting.google.c om...
> "We are trademark counsel for DaimlerChrysler Corporation


jason,
ouch. 3 to 1 we see "jeeples" used by daimler in the near future. sorry to
hear about your run in....sorry to see them yet again biting the hand that
feeds them. if youd care to compare notes, contact me at
http://tinyurl.com/amfi

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com



As you are
> no
> doubt aware, DaimlerChrysler Corporation is the owner of the JEEP
> trademark. In addition to using JEEP to identify vehicles,
> DaimlerChrysler
> uses JEEP trademark in connection with other products including, but
> not
> limited to, clothing, baby carriages, and toys. By virtue of
> DaimlerChrysler's long use of JEEP and extensive advertising, JEEP has
> become a well known, if not famous, trademark entitled to a broad
> scope of
> protection or exclusivity of use.
>
> It has come to DaimlerChrysler's attention that your application for
> the
> mark JEEPLES for clothing was published in the November 25, 2003 issue
> of
> the Trademark Official Gazette. On December 8, 2003, we filed a
> request
> for an extension of time to file a Notice of Opposition.
>
> In our opinion, your JEEPLES trademark is confusingly similar to the
> JEEP
> trademark and likely to cause confusion. Accordingly, DaimlerChrysler
> respectfully requests that you expressly abandon that application and
> cease
> any plans to use the mark. If you do not expressly abandon the
> application, DaimlerChrysler will have no choice but file a Notice of
> Opposition. Moreover, if you begin to use the mark on clothing,
> DaimlerChrysler will not hesitate to assert its legal and equitable
> rights.
>
> We hope that this issue may be resolved on an amicable basis. If you,
> or
> your legal counsel, have any questions, please do not hesitate to
> contact
> me."
>
> At least I'm not out too much money.
> I didn't think we would worry them too much as we are promoting Jeeps
> in a positive style. You know, responsible off roading.
> Oh well.
> Jason




Tirya 12-16-2003 09:33 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
Do any of you understand intellectual property rights and copyright law?

Tirya
--
TDC Inca Jeeper
A dirty Jeep is a happy Jeep.
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uh8vtv8mjql1l82mi8arual4fkqcf1rkid@4ax.com...
> All of this stuff reminds me of the VWOA crap going on where VW is
> having their lawyers contact people who are doing as little as just
> displaying a VW logo on their non-profit website and telling them to
> remove it. Sounds like someone needs to clean house at VWOA and Jeep
> in the PR departments. Ridiculous.
>
>
> On 16 Dec 2003 15:54:25 -0800, Jason90715@yahoo.com (Jason Williams)
> shared the following:
>
> >Nathan,
> >I have followed your past dealings with DC and I can now feel your
> >pain. My wife has always refered to me and my Jeep'n buddies as 'Jeep
> >Creeps'. What other group of people will waive at total strangers
> >just because of what they drive? She always, still does, when I
> >return or initiate a 'Jeep Wave'. she then started calling us
> >Jeeples. Well, she decided to start a business called Jeeples. With
> >a slogan of "A different kind of people". She applied for a trademark
> >of Jeeples. We just recieve this today.
> >
> >"We are trademark counsel for DaimlerChrysler Corporation. As you are
> >no
> >doubt aware, DaimlerChrysler Corporation is the owner of the JEEP
> >trademark. In addition to using JEEP to identify vehicles,
> >DaimlerChrysler
> >uses JEEP trademark in connection with other products including, but
> >not
> >limited to, clothing, baby carriages, and toys. By virtue of
> >DaimlerChrysler's long use of JEEP and extensive advertising, JEEP has
> >become a well known, if not famous, trademark entitled to a broad
> >scope of
> >protection or exclusivity of use.
> >
> >It has come to DaimlerChrysler's attention that your application for
> >the
> >mark JEEPLES for clothing was published in the November 25, 2003 issue
> >of
> >the Trademark Official Gazette. On December 8, 2003, we filed a
> >request
> >for an extension of time to file a Notice of Opposition.
> >
> >In our opinion, your JEEPLES trademark is confusingly similar to the
> >JEEP
> >trademark and likely to cause confusion. Accordingly, DaimlerChrysler
> >respectfully requests that you expressly abandon that application and
> >cease
> >any plans to use the mark. If you do not expressly abandon the
> >application, DaimlerChrysler will have no choice but file a Notice of
> >Opposition. Moreover, if you begin to use the mark on clothing,
> >DaimlerChrysler will not hesitate to assert its legal and equitable
> >rights.
> >
> >We hope that this issue may be resolved on an amicable basis. If you,
> >or
> >your legal counsel, have any questions, please do not hesitate to
> >contact
> >me."
> >
> >At least I'm not out too much money.
> >I didn't think we would worry them too much as we are promoting Jeeps
> >in a positive style. You know, responsible off roading.
> >Oh well.
> >Jason

>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> Do unto others. Then split.
> Happy trails!!!
> :wq!




Tirya 12-16-2003 09:33 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
Do any of you understand intellectual property rights and copyright law?

Tirya
--
TDC Inca Jeeper
A dirty Jeep is a happy Jeep.
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uh8vtv8mjql1l82mi8arual4fkqcf1rkid@4ax.com...
> All of this stuff reminds me of the VWOA crap going on where VW is
> having their lawyers contact people who are doing as little as just
> displaying a VW logo on their non-profit website and telling them to
> remove it. Sounds like someone needs to clean house at VWOA and Jeep
> in the PR departments. Ridiculous.
>
>
> On 16 Dec 2003 15:54:25 -0800, Jason90715@yahoo.com (Jason Williams)
> shared the following:
>
> >Nathan,
> >I have followed your past dealings with DC and I can now feel your
> >pain. My wife has always refered to me and my Jeep'n buddies as 'Jeep
> >Creeps'. What other group of people will waive at total strangers
> >just because of what they drive? She always, still does, when I
> >return or initiate a 'Jeep Wave'. she then started calling us
> >Jeeples. Well, she decided to start a business called Jeeples. With
> >a slogan of "A different kind of people". She applied for a trademark
> >of Jeeples. We just recieve this today.
> >
> >"We are trademark counsel for DaimlerChrysler Corporation. As you are
> >no
> >doubt aware, DaimlerChrysler Corporation is the owner of the JEEP
> >trademark. In addition to using JEEP to identify vehicles,
> >DaimlerChrysler
> >uses JEEP trademark in connection with other products including, but
> >not
> >limited to, clothing, baby carriages, and toys. By virtue of
> >DaimlerChrysler's long use of JEEP and extensive advertising, JEEP has
> >become a well known, if not famous, trademark entitled to a broad
> >scope of
> >protection or exclusivity of use.
> >
> >It has come to DaimlerChrysler's attention that your application for
> >the
> >mark JEEPLES for clothing was published in the November 25, 2003 issue
> >of
> >the Trademark Official Gazette. On December 8, 2003, we filed a
> >request
> >for an extension of time to file a Notice of Opposition.
> >
> >In our opinion, your JEEPLES trademark is confusingly similar to the
> >JEEP
> >trademark and likely to cause confusion. Accordingly, DaimlerChrysler
> >respectfully requests that you expressly abandon that application and
> >cease
> >any plans to use the mark. If you do not expressly abandon the
> >application, DaimlerChrysler will have no choice but file a Notice of
> >Opposition. Moreover, if you begin to use the mark on clothing,
> >DaimlerChrysler will not hesitate to assert its legal and equitable
> >rights.
> >
> >We hope that this issue may be resolved on an amicable basis. If you,
> >or
> >your legal counsel, have any questions, please do not hesitate to
> >contact
> >me."
> >
> >At least I'm not out too much money.
> >I didn't think we would worry them too much as we are promoting Jeeps
> >in a positive style. You know, responsible off roading.
> >Oh well.
> >Jason

>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> Do unto others. Then split.
> Happy trails!!!
> :wq!




Tirya 12-16-2003 09:33 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
Do any of you understand intellectual property rights and copyright law?

Tirya
--
TDC Inca Jeeper
A dirty Jeep is a happy Jeep.
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uh8vtv8mjql1l82mi8arual4fkqcf1rkid@4ax.com...
> All of this stuff reminds me of the VWOA crap going on where VW is
> having their lawyers contact people who are doing as little as just
> displaying a VW logo on their non-profit website and telling them to
> remove it. Sounds like someone needs to clean house at VWOA and Jeep
> in the PR departments. Ridiculous.
>
>
> On 16 Dec 2003 15:54:25 -0800, Jason90715@yahoo.com (Jason Williams)
> shared the following:
>
> >Nathan,
> >I have followed your past dealings with DC and I can now feel your
> >pain. My wife has always refered to me and my Jeep'n buddies as 'Jeep
> >Creeps'. What other group of people will waive at total strangers
> >just because of what they drive? She always, still does, when I
> >return or initiate a 'Jeep Wave'. she then started calling us
> >Jeeples. Well, she decided to start a business called Jeeples. With
> >a slogan of "A different kind of people". She applied for a trademark
> >of Jeeples. We just recieve this today.
> >
> >"We are trademark counsel for DaimlerChrysler Corporation. As you are
> >no
> >doubt aware, DaimlerChrysler Corporation is the owner of the JEEP
> >trademark. In addition to using JEEP to identify vehicles,
> >DaimlerChrysler
> >uses JEEP trademark in connection with other products including, but
> >not
> >limited to, clothing, baby carriages, and toys. By virtue of
> >DaimlerChrysler's long use of JEEP and extensive advertising, JEEP has
> >become a well known, if not famous, trademark entitled to a broad
> >scope of
> >protection or exclusivity of use.
> >
> >It has come to DaimlerChrysler's attention that your application for
> >the
> >mark JEEPLES for clothing was published in the November 25, 2003 issue
> >of
> >the Trademark Official Gazette. On December 8, 2003, we filed a
> >request
> >for an extension of time to file a Notice of Opposition.
> >
> >In our opinion, your JEEPLES trademark is confusingly similar to the
> >JEEP
> >trademark and likely to cause confusion. Accordingly, DaimlerChrysler
> >respectfully requests that you expressly abandon that application and
> >cease
> >any plans to use the mark. If you do not expressly abandon the
> >application, DaimlerChrysler will have no choice but file a Notice of
> >Opposition. Moreover, if you begin to use the mark on clothing,
> >DaimlerChrysler will not hesitate to assert its legal and equitable
> >rights.
> >
> >We hope that this issue may be resolved on an amicable basis. If you,
> >or
> >your legal counsel, have any questions, please do not hesitate to
> >contact
> >me."
> >
> >At least I'm not out too much money.
> >I didn't think we would worry them too much as we are promoting Jeeps
> >in a positive style. You know, responsible off roading.
> >Oh well.
> >Jason

>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> Do unto others. Then split.
> Happy trails!!!
> :wq!




Nathan Collier 12-16-2003 09:39 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
"Tirya" <Tirya@spamfree.addy> wrote in message
news:fgPDb.564005$HS4.4275726@attbi_s01...
> Do any of you understand intellectual property rights and copyright law?


intellectual property is a new frontier thats only beginning to be explored.
there is very little existing case law on it because people like me fold and
settle rather than risk everything fighting a corporate giant.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com




Nathan Collier 12-16-2003 09:39 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
"Tirya" <Tirya@spamfree.addy> wrote in message
news:fgPDb.564005$HS4.4275726@attbi_s01...
> Do any of you understand intellectual property rights and copyright law?


intellectual property is a new frontier thats only beginning to be explored.
there is very little existing case law on it because people like me fold and
settle rather than risk everything fighting a corporate giant.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com




Nathan Collier 12-16-2003 09:39 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
"Tirya" <Tirya@spamfree.addy> wrote in message
news:fgPDb.564005$HS4.4275726@attbi_s01...
> Do any of you understand intellectual property rights and copyright law?


intellectual property is a new frontier thats only beginning to be explored.
there is very little existing case law on it because people like me fold and
settle rather than risk everything fighting a corporate giant.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com




Peter Parker 12-16-2003 09:48 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
In article <bAODb.131090$Vu5.8141095@twister.southeast.rr.com >,
Nathan Collier <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote:
>"Jason Williams" <Jason90715@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:c0500d7c.0312161554.2982a297@posting.google. com...
>> "We are trademark counsel for DaimlerChrysler Corporation

>
>jason,
>ouch. 3 to 1 we see "jeeples" used by daimler in the near future. sorry to
>hear about your run in....sorry to see them yet again biting the hand that
>feeds them. if youd care to compare notes, contact me at
>http://tinyurl.com/amfi


The "Jeeples" name is not exact and if it's a "coined" name, something
you made up, you still have a chance. It sounds coined to me and therefore
it is not two words but one. This means you have a chance and it is not
exact but different. The only problem would be that you would be promoting
their product on clothes therefore you are interfering with their mark
and all would be lost.


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Peter Parker 12-16-2003 09:48 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
In article <bAODb.131090$Vu5.8141095@twister.southeast.rr.com >,
Nathan Collier <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote:
>"Jason Williams" <Jason90715@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:c0500d7c.0312161554.2982a297@posting.google. com...
>> "We are trademark counsel for DaimlerChrysler Corporation

>
>jason,
>ouch. 3 to 1 we see "jeeples" used by daimler in the near future. sorry to
>hear about your run in....sorry to see them yet again biting the hand that
>feeds them. if youd care to compare notes, contact me at
>http://tinyurl.com/amfi


The "Jeeples" name is not exact and if it's a "coined" name, something
you made up, you still have a chance. It sounds coined to me and therefore
it is not two words but one. This means you have a chance and it is not
exact but different. The only problem would be that you would be promoting
their product on clothes therefore you are interfering with their mark
and all would be lost.


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Peter Parker 12-16-2003 09:48 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
In article <bAODb.131090$Vu5.8141095@twister.southeast.rr.com >,
Nathan Collier <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote:
>"Jason Williams" <Jason90715@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:c0500d7c.0312161554.2982a297@posting.google. com...
>> "We are trademark counsel for DaimlerChrysler Corporation

>
>jason,
>ouch. 3 to 1 we see "jeeples" used by daimler in the near future. sorry to
>hear about your run in....sorry to see them yet again biting the hand that
>feeds them. if youd care to compare notes, contact me at
>http://tinyurl.com/amfi


The "Jeeples" name is not exact and if it's a "coined" name, something
you made up, you still have a chance. It sounds coined to me and therefore
it is not two words but one. This means you have a chance and it is not
exact but different. The only problem would be that you would be promoting
their product on clothes therefore you are interfering with their mark
and all would be lost.


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DougW 12-16-2003 09:54 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
Tirya did pass the time by typing:
> Do any of you understand intellectual property rights and copyright law?


Some do, some don't.

FWIW, two companies can have a trademark on the same name
providing there is no confusion to the consumer.

Take for example Pinto. Someone could sell Pinto brand beans
and not the Pinto automobile. (yea.. poor example but you see
the point) Can't drive a bean and can't eat an automobile.

There are several situations in case law. McDonalds is one.
They tried to lay claim to any Mc labeled restaurant including
McChina and a McDonald's restaurant owned and operated by someone
oddly enough named McDonald. The last one failed, don't know
about the McChina, but it's out on google.

In this case however, Jeep has a line of licensed goods including
a real crappy radio and other branded stuff. The best non-lawyer
suggestion I can give is ask what the license fee is for the Jeep
trademark or get a good lawyer cause it's not gonna be pretty.

--
DougW






DougW 12-16-2003 09:54 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
Tirya did pass the time by typing:
> Do any of you understand intellectual property rights and copyright law?


Some do, some don't.

FWIW, two companies can have a trademark on the same name
providing there is no confusion to the consumer.

Take for example Pinto. Someone could sell Pinto brand beans
and not the Pinto automobile. (yea.. poor example but you see
the point) Can't drive a bean and can't eat an automobile.

There are several situations in case law. McDonalds is one.
They tried to lay claim to any Mc labeled restaurant including
McChina and a McDonald's restaurant owned and operated by someone
oddly enough named McDonald. The last one failed, don't know
about the McChina, but it's out on google.

In this case however, Jeep has a line of licensed goods including
a real crappy radio and other branded stuff. The best non-lawyer
suggestion I can give is ask what the license fee is for the Jeep
trademark or get a good lawyer cause it's not gonna be pretty.

--
DougW






DougW 12-16-2003 09:54 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
Tirya did pass the time by typing:
> Do any of you understand intellectual property rights and copyright law?


Some do, some don't.

FWIW, two companies can have a trademark on the same name
providing there is no confusion to the consumer.

Take for example Pinto. Someone could sell Pinto brand beans
and not the Pinto automobile. (yea.. poor example but you see
the point) Can't drive a bean and can't eat an automobile.

There are several situations in case law. McDonalds is one.
They tried to lay claim to any Mc labeled restaurant including
McChina and a McDonald's restaurant owned and operated by someone
oddly enough named McDonald. The last one failed, don't know
about the McChina, but it's out on google.

In this case however, Jeep has a line of licensed goods including
a real crappy radio and other branded stuff. The best non-lawyer
suggestion I can give is ask what the license fee is for the Jeep
trademark or get a good lawyer cause it's not gonna be pretty.

--
DougW






Russ B 12-16-2003 10:08 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
Why not offer to sell them the trademark and concepts for a couple mil?

"Jason Williams" <Jason90715@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c0500d7c.0312161554.2982a297@posting.google.c om...
> Nathan,
> I have followed your past dealings with DC and I can now feel your
> pain. My wife has always refered to me and my Jeep'n buddies as 'Jeep
> Creeps'. What other group of people will waive at total strangers
> just because of what they drive? She always, still does, when I
> return or initiate a 'Jeep Wave'. she then started calling us
> Jeeples. Well, she decided to start a business called Jeeples. With
> a slogan of "A different kind of people". She applied for a trademark
> of Jeeples. We just recieve this today.
>
> "We are trademark counsel for DaimlerChrysler Corporation. As you are
> no
> doubt aware, DaimlerChrysler Corporation is the owner of the JEEP
> trademark. In addition to using JEEP to identify vehicles,
> DaimlerChrysler
> uses JEEP trademark in connection with other products including, but
> not
> limited to, clothing, baby carriages, and toys. By virtue of
> DaimlerChrysler's long use of JEEP and extensive advertising, JEEP has
> become a well known, if not famous, trademark entitled to a broad
> scope of
> protection or exclusivity of use.
>
> It has come to DaimlerChrysler's attention that your application for
> the
> mark JEEPLES for clothing was published in the November 25, 2003 issue
> of
> the Trademark Official Gazette. On December 8, 2003, we filed a
> request
> for an extension of time to file a Notice of Opposition.
>
> In our opinion, your JEEPLES trademark is confusingly similar to the
> JEEP
> trademark and likely to cause confusion. Accordingly, DaimlerChrysler
> respectfully requests that you expressly abandon that application and
> cease
> any plans to use the mark. If you do not expressly abandon the
> application, DaimlerChrysler will have no choice but file a Notice of
> Opposition. Moreover, if you begin to use the mark on clothing,
> DaimlerChrysler will not hesitate to assert its legal and equitable
> rights.
>
> We hope that this issue may be resolved on an amicable basis. If you,
> or
> your legal counsel, have any questions, please do not hesitate to
> contact
> me."
>
> At least I'm not out too much money.
> I didn't think we would worry them too much as we are promoting Jeeps
> in a positive style. You know, responsible off roading.
> Oh well.
> Jason




Russ B 12-16-2003 10:08 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
Why not offer to sell them the trademark and concepts for a couple mil?

"Jason Williams" <Jason90715@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c0500d7c.0312161554.2982a297@posting.google.c om...
> Nathan,
> I have followed your past dealings with DC and I can now feel your
> pain. My wife has always refered to me and my Jeep'n buddies as 'Jeep
> Creeps'. What other group of people will waive at total strangers
> just because of what they drive? She always, still does, when I
> return or initiate a 'Jeep Wave'. she then started calling us
> Jeeples. Well, she decided to start a business called Jeeples. With
> a slogan of "A different kind of people". She applied for a trademark
> of Jeeples. We just recieve this today.
>
> "We are trademark counsel for DaimlerChrysler Corporation. As you are
> no
> doubt aware, DaimlerChrysler Corporation is the owner of the JEEP
> trademark. In addition to using JEEP to identify vehicles,
> DaimlerChrysler
> uses JEEP trademark in connection with other products including, but
> not
> limited to, clothing, baby carriages, and toys. By virtue of
> DaimlerChrysler's long use of JEEP and extensive advertising, JEEP has
> become a well known, if not famous, trademark entitled to a broad
> scope of
> protection or exclusivity of use.
>
> It has come to DaimlerChrysler's attention that your application for
> the
> mark JEEPLES for clothing was published in the November 25, 2003 issue
> of
> the Trademark Official Gazette. On December 8, 2003, we filed a
> request
> for an extension of time to file a Notice of Opposition.
>
> In our opinion, your JEEPLES trademark is confusingly similar to the
> JEEP
> trademark and likely to cause confusion. Accordingly, DaimlerChrysler
> respectfully requests that you expressly abandon that application and
> cease
> any plans to use the mark. If you do not expressly abandon the
> application, DaimlerChrysler will have no choice but file a Notice of
> Opposition. Moreover, if you begin to use the mark on clothing,
> DaimlerChrysler will not hesitate to assert its legal and equitable
> rights.
>
> We hope that this issue may be resolved on an amicable basis. If you,
> or
> your legal counsel, have any questions, please do not hesitate to
> contact
> me."
>
> At least I'm not out too much money.
> I didn't think we would worry them too much as we are promoting Jeeps
> in a positive style. You know, responsible off roading.
> Oh well.
> Jason




Russ B 12-16-2003 10:08 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
Why not offer to sell them the trademark and concepts for a couple mil?

"Jason Williams" <Jason90715@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c0500d7c.0312161554.2982a297@posting.google.c om...
> Nathan,
> I have followed your past dealings with DC and I can now feel your
> pain. My wife has always refered to me and my Jeep'n buddies as 'Jeep
> Creeps'. What other group of people will waive at total strangers
> just because of what they drive? She always, still does, when I
> return or initiate a 'Jeep Wave'. she then started calling us
> Jeeples. Well, she decided to start a business called Jeeples. With
> a slogan of "A different kind of people". She applied for a trademark
> of Jeeples. We just recieve this today.
>
> "We are trademark counsel for DaimlerChrysler Corporation. As you are
> no
> doubt aware, DaimlerChrysler Corporation is the owner of the JEEP
> trademark. In addition to using JEEP to identify vehicles,
> DaimlerChrysler
> uses JEEP trademark in connection with other products including, but
> not
> limited to, clothing, baby carriages, and toys. By virtue of
> DaimlerChrysler's long use of JEEP and extensive advertising, JEEP has
> become a well known, if not famous, trademark entitled to a broad
> scope of
> protection or exclusivity of use.
>
> It has come to DaimlerChrysler's attention that your application for
> the
> mark JEEPLES for clothing was published in the November 25, 2003 issue
> of
> the Trademark Official Gazette. On December 8, 2003, we filed a
> request
> for an extension of time to file a Notice of Opposition.
>
> In our opinion, your JEEPLES trademark is confusingly similar to the
> JEEP
> trademark and likely to cause confusion. Accordingly, DaimlerChrysler
> respectfully requests that you expressly abandon that application and
> cease
> any plans to use the mark. If you do not expressly abandon the
> application, DaimlerChrysler will have no choice but file a Notice of
> Opposition. Moreover, if you begin to use the mark on clothing,
> DaimlerChrysler will not hesitate to assert its legal and equitable
> rights.
>
> We hope that this issue may be resolved on an amicable basis. If you,
> or
> your legal counsel, have any questions, please do not hesitate to
> contact
> me."
>
> At least I'm not out too much money.
> I didn't think we would worry them too much as we are promoting Jeeps
> in a positive style. You know, responsible off roading.
> Oh well.
> Jason




Matt Osborn 12-16-2003 10:10 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
On 16 Dec 2003 15:54:25 -0800, Jason90715@yahoo.com (Jason Williams)
wrote:

>At least I'm not out too much money.
>I didn't think we would worry them too much as we are promoting Jeeps
>in a positive style. You know, responsible off roading.
>Oh well.
>Jason


Guys, Jeep _has_ to protect its trademark, even in stupid,
inconsequential cases or they will lose it entirely.

Yes, you are just little guys, but to the law you're no different than
Ford or GM. If Jeep lets you use it, then they lose it.

Matt Osborn 12-16-2003 10:10 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
On 16 Dec 2003 15:54:25 -0800, Jason90715@yahoo.com (Jason Williams)
wrote:

>At least I'm not out too much money.
>I didn't think we would worry them too much as we are promoting Jeeps
>in a positive style. You know, responsible off roading.
>Oh well.
>Jason


Guys, Jeep _has_ to protect its trademark, even in stupid,
inconsequential cases or they will lose it entirely.

Yes, you are just little guys, but to the law you're no different than
Ford or GM. If Jeep lets you use it, then they lose it.

Matt Osborn 12-16-2003 10:10 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
On 16 Dec 2003 15:54:25 -0800, Jason90715@yahoo.com (Jason Williams)
wrote:

>At least I'm not out too much money.
>I didn't think we would worry them too much as we are promoting Jeeps
>in a positive style. You know, responsible off roading.
>Oh well.
>Jason


Guys, Jeep _has_ to protect its trademark, even in stupid,
inconsequential cases or they will lose it entirely.

Yes, you are just little guys, but to the law you're no different than
Ford or GM. If Jeep lets you use it, then they lose it.

Lon Stowell 12-16-2003 10:44 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
Roughly 12/16/03 15:54, Jason Williams's monkeys randomly typed:


> It has come to DaimlerChrysler's attention that your application for
> the
> mark JEEPLES for clothing was published in the November 25, 2003 issue
> of
> the Trademark Official Gazette. On December 8, 2003, we filed a
> request
> for an extension of time to file a Notice of Opposition.


You could always call the clothing line something along
the lines of SevenSlots, but I can see where that could
have at least a couple meanings not politically correct.
Which of course could make it an instant best seller
amongst upperteens and twenty-somethings.


--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.


Lon Stowell 12-16-2003 10:44 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
Roughly 12/16/03 15:54, Jason Williams's monkeys randomly typed:


> It has come to DaimlerChrysler's attention that your application for
> the
> mark JEEPLES for clothing was published in the November 25, 2003 issue
> of
> the Trademark Official Gazette. On December 8, 2003, we filed a
> request
> for an extension of time to file a Notice of Opposition.


You could always call the clothing line something along
the lines of SevenSlots, but I can see where that could
have at least a couple meanings not politically correct.
Which of course could make it an instant best seller
amongst upperteens and twenty-somethings.


--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.


Lon Stowell 12-16-2003 10:44 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
Roughly 12/16/03 15:54, Jason Williams's monkeys randomly typed:


> It has come to DaimlerChrysler's attention that your application for
> the
> mark JEEPLES for clothing was published in the November 25, 2003 issue
> of
> the Trademark Official Gazette. On December 8, 2003, we filed a
> request
> for an extension of time to file a Notice of Opposition.


You could always call the clothing line something along
the lines of SevenSlots, but I can see where that could
have at least a couple meanings not politically correct.
Which of course could make it an instant best seller
amongst upperteens and twenty-somethings.


--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.


DaveW 12-16-2003 11:49 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
DougW wrote:
> Tirya did pass the time by typing:
>
>>Do any of you understand intellectual property rights and copyright law?

>
>
> Some do, some don't.
>
> FWIW, two companies can have a trademark on the same name
> providing there is no confusion to the consumer.
>
> Take for example Pinto. Someone could sell Pinto brand beans
> and not the Pinto automobile. (yea.. poor example but you see
> the point) Can't drive a bean and can't eat an automobile.


The classic example is Apple. It is both a computer company and a record
label founded by a certain four lads (now 2) from Liverpool. The record
company tried, unsuccessfully to sue the computer company some years
ago. The courts decided that the public could tell the difference.

Regards,

DAve

Oh! Good luck to Jason!


DaveW 12-16-2003 11:49 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
DougW wrote:
> Tirya did pass the time by typing:
>
>>Do any of you understand intellectual property rights and copyright law?

>
>
> Some do, some don't.
>
> FWIW, two companies can have a trademark on the same name
> providing there is no confusion to the consumer.
>
> Take for example Pinto. Someone could sell Pinto brand beans
> and not the Pinto automobile. (yea.. poor example but you see
> the point) Can't drive a bean and can't eat an automobile.


The classic example is Apple. It is both a computer company and a record
label founded by a certain four lads (now 2) from Liverpool. The record
company tried, unsuccessfully to sue the computer company some years
ago. The courts decided that the public could tell the difference.

Regards,

DAve

Oh! Good luck to Jason!


DaveW 12-16-2003 11:49 PM

Re: Hello Nathan Collier
 
DougW wrote:
> Tirya did pass the time by typing:
>
>>Do any of you understand intellectual property rights and copyright law?

>
>
> Some do, some don't.
>
> FWIW, two companies can have a trademark on the same name
> providing there is no confusion to the consumer.
>
> Take for example Pinto. Someone could sell Pinto brand beans
> and not the Pinto automobile. (yea.. poor example but you see
> the point) Can't drive a bean and can't eat an automobile.


The classic example is Apple. It is both a computer company and a record
label founded by a certain four lads (now 2) from Liverpool. The record
company tried, unsuccessfully to sue the computer company some years
ago. The courts decided that the public could tell the difference.

Regards,

DAve

Oh! Good luck to Jason!



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