Re: Hello Nathan Collier
Unless he's willing to go to court and fight he may as well just dump it now
and move on. At some point what DC does will require a response from him or he will lose by default. And contrary, DC no doubt has a warehouse full of lawyers on staff 24/7. It's not as if they have to go out and hire the counsel. Unless he's willing to fight he's already lost. Even if he IS willing to fight, from what I can see just from what he's posted, DC has a point and he IS trying to capitalize off of the Jeep name. "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message news:0aODb.1968$Ts5.1861@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net... > Why are you giving up? You didn't lose yet. If you do nothing, DC may file > a Notice of Opposition. So what? it costs you nothing and them something. > Sit tight and see what happens. > "Jason Williams" <Jason90715@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:c0500d7c.0312161554.2982a297@posting.google.c om... > > Nathan, > > I have followed your past dealings with DC and I can now feel your > > pain. My wife has always refered to me and my Jeep'n buddies as 'Jeep > > Creeps'. What other group of people will waive at total strangers > > just because of what they drive? She always, still does, when I > > return or initiate a 'Jeep Wave'. she then started calling us > > Jeeples. Well, she decided to start a business called Jeeples. With > > a slogan of "A different kind of people". She applied for a trademark > > of Jeeples. We just recieve this today. > > > > "We are trademark counsel for DaimlerChrysler Corporation. As you are > > no > > doubt aware, DaimlerChrysler Corporation is the owner of the JEEP > > trademark. In addition to using JEEP to identify vehicles, > > DaimlerChrysler > > uses JEEP trademark in connection with other products including, but > > not > > limited to, clothing, baby carriages, and toys. By virtue of > > DaimlerChrysler's long use of JEEP and extensive advertising, JEEP has > > become a well known, if not famous, trademark entitled to a broad > > scope of > > protection or exclusivity of use. > > > > It has come to DaimlerChrysler's attention that your application for > > the > > mark JEEPLES for clothing was published in the November 25, 2003 issue > > of > > the Trademark Official Gazette. On December 8, 2003, we filed a > > request > > for an extension of time to file a Notice of Opposition. > > > > In our opinion, your JEEPLES trademark is confusingly similar to the > > JEEP > > trademark and likely to cause confusion. Accordingly, DaimlerChrysler > > respectfully requests that you expressly abandon that application and > > cease > > any plans to use the mark. If you do not expressly abandon the > > application, DaimlerChrysler will have no choice but file a Notice of > > Opposition. Moreover, if you begin to use the mark on clothing, > > DaimlerChrysler will not hesitate to assert its legal and equitable > > rights. > > > > We hope that this issue may be resolved on an amicable basis. If you, > > or > > your legal counsel, have any questions, please do not hesitate to > > contact > > me." > > > > At least I'm not out too much money. > > I didn't think we would worry them too much as we are promoting Jeeps > > in a positive style. You know, responsible off roading. > > Oh well. > > Jason > > |
Re: Hello Nathan Collier
Unless he's willing to go to court and fight he may as well just dump it now
and move on. At some point what DC does will require a response from him or he will lose by default. And contrary, DC no doubt has a warehouse full of lawyers on staff 24/7. It's not as if they have to go out and hire the counsel. Unless he's willing to fight he's already lost. Even if he IS willing to fight, from what I can see just from what he's posted, DC has a point and he IS trying to capitalize off of the Jeep name. "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message news:0aODb.1968$Ts5.1861@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net... > Why are you giving up? You didn't lose yet. If you do nothing, DC may file > a Notice of Opposition. So what? it costs you nothing and them something. > Sit tight and see what happens. > "Jason Williams" <Jason90715@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:c0500d7c.0312161554.2982a297@posting.google.c om... > > Nathan, > > I have followed your past dealings with DC and I can now feel your > > pain. My wife has always refered to me and my Jeep'n buddies as 'Jeep > > Creeps'. What other group of people will waive at total strangers > > just because of what they drive? She always, still does, when I > > return or initiate a 'Jeep Wave'. she then started calling us > > Jeeples. Well, she decided to start a business called Jeeples. With > > a slogan of "A different kind of people". She applied for a trademark > > of Jeeples. We just recieve this today. > > > > "We are trademark counsel for DaimlerChrysler Corporation. As you are > > no > > doubt aware, DaimlerChrysler Corporation is the owner of the JEEP > > trademark. In addition to using JEEP to identify vehicles, > > DaimlerChrysler > > uses JEEP trademark in connection with other products including, but > > not > > limited to, clothing, baby carriages, and toys. By virtue of > > DaimlerChrysler's long use of JEEP and extensive advertising, JEEP has > > become a well known, if not famous, trademark entitled to a broad > > scope of > > protection or exclusivity of use. > > > > It has come to DaimlerChrysler's attention that your application for > > the > > mark JEEPLES for clothing was published in the November 25, 2003 issue > > of > > the Trademark Official Gazette. On December 8, 2003, we filed a > > request > > for an extension of time to file a Notice of Opposition. > > > > In our opinion, your JEEPLES trademark is confusingly similar to the > > JEEP > > trademark and likely to cause confusion. Accordingly, DaimlerChrysler > > respectfully requests that you expressly abandon that application and > > cease > > any plans to use the mark. If you do not expressly abandon the > > application, DaimlerChrysler will have no choice but file a Notice of > > Opposition. Moreover, if you begin to use the mark on clothing, > > DaimlerChrysler will not hesitate to assert its legal and equitable > > rights. > > > > We hope that this issue may be resolved on an amicable basis. If you, > > or > > your legal counsel, have any questions, please do not hesitate to > > contact > > me." > > > > At least I'm not out too much money. > > I didn't think we would worry them too much as we are promoting Jeeps > > in a positive style. You know, responsible off roading. > > Oh well. > > Jason > > |
Re: Hello Nathan Collier
Unless he's willing to go to court and fight he may as well just dump it now
and move on. At some point what DC does will require a response from him or he will lose by default. And contrary, DC no doubt has a warehouse full of lawyers on staff 24/7. It's not as if they have to go out and hire the counsel. Unless he's willing to fight he's already lost. Even if he IS willing to fight, from what I can see just from what he's posted, DC has a point and he IS trying to capitalize off of the Jeep name. "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message news:0aODb.1968$Ts5.1861@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net... > Why are you giving up? You didn't lose yet. If you do nothing, DC may file > a Notice of Opposition. So what? it costs you nothing and them something. > Sit tight and see what happens. > "Jason Williams" <Jason90715@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:c0500d7c.0312161554.2982a297@posting.google.c om... > > Nathan, > > I have followed your past dealings with DC and I can now feel your > > pain. My wife has always refered to me and my Jeep'n buddies as 'Jeep > > Creeps'. What other group of people will waive at total strangers > > just because of what they drive? She always, still does, when I > > return or initiate a 'Jeep Wave'. she then started calling us > > Jeeples. Well, she decided to start a business called Jeeples. With > > a slogan of "A different kind of people". She applied for a trademark > > of Jeeples. We just recieve this today. > > > > "We are trademark counsel for DaimlerChrysler Corporation. As you are > > no > > doubt aware, DaimlerChrysler Corporation is the owner of the JEEP > > trademark. In addition to using JEEP to identify vehicles, > > DaimlerChrysler > > uses JEEP trademark in connection with other products including, but > > not > > limited to, clothing, baby carriages, and toys. By virtue of > > DaimlerChrysler's long use of JEEP and extensive advertising, JEEP has > > become a well known, if not famous, trademark entitled to a broad > > scope of > > protection or exclusivity of use. > > > > It has come to DaimlerChrysler's attention that your application for > > the > > mark JEEPLES for clothing was published in the November 25, 2003 issue > > of > > the Trademark Official Gazette. On December 8, 2003, we filed a > > request > > for an extension of time to file a Notice of Opposition. > > > > In our opinion, your JEEPLES trademark is confusingly similar to the > > JEEP > > trademark and likely to cause confusion. Accordingly, DaimlerChrysler > > respectfully requests that you expressly abandon that application and > > cease > > any plans to use the mark. If you do not expressly abandon the > > application, DaimlerChrysler will have no choice but file a Notice of > > Opposition. Moreover, if you begin to use the mark on clothing, > > DaimlerChrysler will not hesitate to assert its legal and equitable > > rights. > > > > We hope that this issue may be resolved on an amicable basis. If you, > > or > > your legal counsel, have any questions, please do not hesitate to > > contact > > me." > > > > At least I'm not out too much money. > > I didn't think we would worry them too much as we are promoting Jeeps > > in a positive style. You know, responsible off roading. > > Oh well. > > Jason > > |
Re: Hello Nathan Collier
"Jason Williams" <Jason90715@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:c0500d7c.0312161554.2982a297@posting.google.c om... *snip* > She applied for a trademark > of Jeeples. We just recieve this today. > > "We are trademark counsel for DaimlerChrysler Corporation. As you are Thank goodness they stopped you, someone could have thought you were Daimler Chrysler. |
Re: Hello Nathan Collier
"Jason Williams" <Jason90715@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:c0500d7c.0312161554.2982a297@posting.google.c om... *snip* > She applied for a trademark > of Jeeples. We just recieve this today. > > "We are trademark counsel for DaimlerChrysler Corporation. As you are Thank goodness they stopped you, someone could have thought you were Daimler Chrysler. |
Re: Hello Nathan Collier
"Jason Williams" <Jason90715@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:c0500d7c.0312161554.2982a297@posting.google.c om... *snip* > She applied for a trademark > of Jeeples. We just recieve this today. > > "We are trademark counsel for DaimlerChrysler Corporation. As you are Thank goodness they stopped you, someone could have thought you were Daimler Chrysler. |
Re: Hello Nathan Collier
I remember when IBM sued for the name "big blue". The was a little winery
in New York call Big Blue winery... They also sued for anyone who use the "bared" letters like IBM uses in their logo. "Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message news:82ivtvsd1el4fk51558bde5h7edg9lm6fq@4ax.com... > On 16 Dec 2003 15:54:25 -0800, Jason90715@yahoo.com (Jason Williams) > wrote: > > >At least I'm not out too much money. > >I didn't think we would worry them too much as we are promoting Jeeps > >in a positive style. You know, responsible off roading. > >Oh well. > >Jason > > Guys, Jeep _has_ to protect its trademark, even in stupid, > inconsequential cases or they will lose it entirely. > > Yes, you are just little guys, but to the law you're no different than > Ford or GM. If Jeep lets you use it, then they lose it. |
Re: Hello Nathan Collier
I remember when IBM sued for the name "big blue". The was a little winery
in New York call Big Blue winery... They also sued for anyone who use the "bared" letters like IBM uses in their logo. "Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message news:82ivtvsd1el4fk51558bde5h7edg9lm6fq@4ax.com... > On 16 Dec 2003 15:54:25 -0800, Jason90715@yahoo.com (Jason Williams) > wrote: > > >At least I'm not out too much money. > >I didn't think we would worry them too much as we are promoting Jeeps > >in a positive style. You know, responsible off roading. > >Oh well. > >Jason > > Guys, Jeep _has_ to protect its trademark, even in stupid, > inconsequential cases or they will lose it entirely. > > Yes, you are just little guys, but to the law you're no different than > Ford or GM. If Jeep lets you use it, then they lose it. |
Re: Hello Nathan Collier
I remember when IBM sued for the name "big blue". The was a little winery
in New York call Big Blue winery... They also sued for anyone who use the "bared" letters like IBM uses in their logo. "Matt Osborn" <msosborn@spam_trap@attglobal.net> wrote in message news:82ivtvsd1el4fk51558bde5h7edg9lm6fq@4ax.com... > On 16 Dec 2003 15:54:25 -0800, Jason90715@yahoo.com (Jason Williams) > wrote: > > >At least I'm not out too much money. > >I didn't think we would worry them too much as we are promoting Jeeps > >in a positive style. You know, responsible off roading. > >Oh well. > >Jason > > Guys, Jeep _has_ to protect its trademark, even in stupid, > inconsequential cases or they will lose it entirely. > > Yes, you are just little guys, but to the law you're no different than > Ford or GM. If Jeep lets you use it, then they lose it. |
Re: Hello Nathan Collier
In article <UlPDb.159878$I53.6445421@twister.southeast.rr.com >, "Nathan
Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> writes: >> Do any of you understand intellectual property rights and copyright law? > >intellectual property is a new frontier thats only beginning to be explored. >there is very little existing case law on it because people like me fold and >settle rather than risk everything fighting a corporate giant. I have to disagree with you there, Nathan. Intellectual property law covers copyrights, trademarks and patents and is a well-established branch of commercial law. The Internet has made it very easy to circumvent many intellectual property constraints (witness p2p file sharing) and that is what is being explored right now. * * * Matt Macchiarolo www.townpeddler.com www.wolverine4wd.org http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html |
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