First automatic
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Re: First automatic
http://web.archive.org/web/200410210.../chero4wd.html
http://www.mcguiganmotors.com/grand_cherokee_4wd.htm
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Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Jeep's Quadra-Trac II sounds like they are trying to duplicate the Audi
> quattros you are probably familiar with.
>
> --
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> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Fred Klingener" <gigabitbucket@brockeng.com> wrote in message
> news:BXU9f.4606$Lv.1445@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net ...
> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:29526$4368147a$4831b233$19320@FUSE.NET...
> >> Perhaps the new WK Grand Cherokee's are different.
> >>
> >> We know he has a Limited so we know it has a V-8 of unknown size.. He
> > says
> >> it has all the fancy differentials so perhaps it is the Quadra-Trac II.
> >
> > It's the GCL with small V8 and Quadra-Drive II, which as far as I can
> > tell,
> > is the Quadra-Trac II transfer case with the pair of 'fancy' Vari-Lok axle
> > differentials, and whatever software it takes to run it all.
> >
> > And this may be the root of the problem. All that stuff worked surperbly
> > and absolutely transparently. I don't think I spun a wheel all summer,
> > even
> > on some pretty uneven, slimy stuff. Maybe I want the rest of it to be
> > perfect too.
> >
> > Too greedy.
> >
> >> Perhaps if we factor in the V-8's power, the 3.73 gearing, and the
> > Vari-Lok
> >> differentials there is considerably more of a 'jerk' than shifting gears
> > in
> >> 4Lo than you might expect in a 4 cylinder Wrangler with a stick..
> >
> > Oddly, none of the dealer service guys suggested it was the 'jerk' behind
> > the wheel.
> >
> > Fred
> >
> >
http://www.mcguiganmotors.com/grand_cherokee_4wd.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Jeep's Quadra-Trac II sounds like they are trying to duplicate the Audi
> quattros you are probably familiar with.
>
> --
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Fred Klingener" <gigabitbucket@brockeng.com> wrote in message
> news:BXU9f.4606$Lv.1445@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net ...
> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:29526$4368147a$4831b233$19320@FUSE.NET...
> >> Perhaps the new WK Grand Cherokee's are different.
> >>
> >> We know he has a Limited so we know it has a V-8 of unknown size.. He
> > says
> >> it has all the fancy differentials so perhaps it is the Quadra-Trac II.
> >
> > It's the GCL with small V8 and Quadra-Drive II, which as far as I can
> > tell,
> > is the Quadra-Trac II transfer case with the pair of 'fancy' Vari-Lok axle
> > differentials, and whatever software it takes to run it all.
> >
> > And this may be the root of the problem. All that stuff worked surperbly
> > and absolutely transparently. I don't think I spun a wheel all summer,
> > even
> > on some pretty uneven, slimy stuff. Maybe I want the rest of it to be
> > perfect too.
> >
> > Too greedy.
> >
> >> Perhaps if we factor in the V-8's power, the 3.73 gearing, and the
> > Vari-Lok
> >> differentials there is considerably more of a 'jerk' than shifting gears
> > in
> >> 4Lo than you might expect in a 4 cylinder Wrangler with a stick..
> >
> > Oddly, none of the dealer service guys suggested it was the 'jerk' behind
> > the wheel.
> >
> > Fred
> >
> >
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Re: First automatic
"Fred Klingener" <gigabitbucket@brockeng.com> wrote in message
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--snippy--
> Oddly, none of the dealer service guys suggested it was the 'jerk'
> behind the wheel.
>
They are trained not to say that. I can assure you though, that they were
all thinking it. You bought the vehicle, they got their money, why are you
bothering them now?
Earle
news:BXU9f.4606$Lv.1445@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net ...
--snippy--
> Oddly, none of the dealer service guys suggested it was the 'jerk'
> behind the wheel.
>
They are trained not to say that. I can assure you though, that they were
all thinking it. You bought the vehicle, they got their money, why are you
bothering them now?
Earle
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Re: First automatic
"Fred Klingener" <gigabitbucket@brockeng.com> wrote in message
news:BXU9f.4606$Lv.1445@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net ...
--snippy--
> Oddly, none of the dealer service guys suggested it was the 'jerk'
> behind the wheel.
>
They are trained not to say that. I can assure you though, that they were
all thinking it. You bought the vehicle, they got their money, why are you
bothering them now?
Earle
news:BXU9f.4606$Lv.1445@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net ...
--snippy--
> Oddly, none of the dealer service guys suggested it was the 'jerk'
> behind the wheel.
>
They are trained not to say that. I can assure you though, that they were
all thinking it. You bought the vehicle, they got their money, why are you
bothering them now?
Earle
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Re: First automatic
"Fred Klingener" <gigabitbucket@brockeng.com> wrote in message
news:BXU9f.4606$Lv.1445@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net ...
--snippy--
> Oddly, none of the dealer service guys suggested it was the 'jerk'
> behind the wheel.
>
They are trained not to say that. I can assure you though, that they were
all thinking it. You bought the vehicle, they got their money, why are you
bothering them now?
Earle
news:BXU9f.4606$Lv.1445@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net ...
--snippy--
> Oddly, none of the dealer service guys suggested it was the 'jerk'
> behind the wheel.
>
They are trained not to say that. I can assure you though, that they were
all thinking it. You bought the vehicle, they got their money, why are you
bothering them now?
Earle
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Re: First automatic
That raises a point about whether he has QuadraTracII or QuadraDrive
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> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> Jeep's Quadra-Trac II sounds like they are trying to duplicate the Audi
>> quattros you are probably familiar with.
>>
>> --
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> .
>> "Fred Klingener" <gigabitbucket@brockeng.com> wrote in message
>> news:BXU9f.4606$Lv.1445@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net ...
>> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> > news:29526$4368147a$4831b233$19320@FUSE.NET...
>> >> Perhaps the new WK Grand Cherokee's are different.
>> >>
>> >> We know he has a Limited so we know it has a V-8 of unknown size.. He
>> > says
>> >> it has all the fancy differentials so perhaps it is the Quadra-Trac
>> >> II.
>> >
>> > It's the GCL with small V8 and Quadra-Drive II, which as far as I can
>> > tell,
>> > is the Quadra-Trac II transfer case with the pair of 'fancy' Vari-Lok
>> > axle
>> > differentials, and whatever software it takes to run it all.
>> >
>> > And this may be the root of the problem. All that stuff worked
>> > surperbly
>> > and absolutely transparently. I don't think I spun a wheel all summer,
>> > even
>> > on some pretty uneven, slimy stuff. Maybe I want the rest of it to be
>> > perfect too.
>> >
>> > Too greedy.
>> >
>> >> Perhaps if we factor in the V-8's power, the 3.73 gearing, and the
>> > Vari-Lok
>> >> differentials there is considerably more of a 'jerk' than shifting
>> >> gears
>> > in
>> >> 4Lo than you might expect in a 4 cylinder Wrangler with a stick..
>> >
>> > Oddly, none of the dealer service guys suggested it was the 'jerk'
>> > behind
>> > the wheel.
>> >
>> > Fred
>> >
>> >
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
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"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> http://web.archive.org/web/200410210.../chero4wd.html
> http://www.mcguiganmotors.com/grand_cherokee_4wd.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> Jeep's Quadra-Trac II sounds like they are trying to duplicate the Audi
>> quattros you are probably familiar with.
>>
>> --
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> .
>> "Fred Klingener" <gigabitbucket@brockeng.com> wrote in message
>> news:BXU9f.4606$Lv.1445@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net ...
>> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> > news:29526$4368147a$4831b233$19320@FUSE.NET...
>> >> Perhaps the new WK Grand Cherokee's are different.
>> >>
>> >> We know he has a Limited so we know it has a V-8 of unknown size.. He
>> > says
>> >> it has all the fancy differentials so perhaps it is the Quadra-Trac
>> >> II.
>> >
>> > It's the GCL with small V8 and Quadra-Drive II, which as far as I can
>> > tell,
>> > is the Quadra-Trac II transfer case with the pair of 'fancy' Vari-Lok
>> > axle
>> > differentials, and whatever software it takes to run it all.
>> >
>> > And this may be the root of the problem. All that stuff worked
>> > surperbly
>> > and absolutely transparently. I don't think I spun a wheel all summer,
>> > even
>> > on some pretty uneven, slimy stuff. Maybe I want the rest of it to be
>> > perfect too.
>> >
>> > Too greedy.
>> >
>> >> Perhaps if we factor in the V-8's power, the 3.73 gearing, and the
>> > Vari-Lok
>> >> differentials there is considerably more of a 'jerk' than shifting
>> >> gears
>> > in
>> >> 4Lo than you might expect in a 4 cylinder Wrangler with a stick..
>> >
>> > Oddly, none of the dealer service guys suggested it was the 'jerk'
>> > behind
>> > the wheel.
>> >
>> > Fred
>> >
>> >
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Re: First automatic
That raises a point about whether he has QuadraTracII or QuadraDrive
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..
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:43683C23.1B0BC3@***.net...
> http://web.archive.org/web/200410210.../chero4wd.html
> http://www.mcguiganmotors.com/grand_cherokee_4wd.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> Jeep's Quadra-Trac II sounds like they are trying to duplicate the Audi
>> quattros you are probably familiar with.
>>
>> --
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> .
>> "Fred Klingener" <gigabitbucket@brockeng.com> wrote in message
>> news:BXU9f.4606$Lv.1445@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net ...
>> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> > news:29526$4368147a$4831b233$19320@FUSE.NET...
>> >> Perhaps the new WK Grand Cherokee's are different.
>> >>
>> >> We know he has a Limited so we know it has a V-8 of unknown size.. He
>> > says
>> >> it has all the fancy differentials so perhaps it is the Quadra-Trac
>> >> II.
>> >
>> > It's the GCL with small V8 and Quadra-Drive II, which as far as I can
>> > tell,
>> > is the Quadra-Trac II transfer case with the pair of 'fancy' Vari-Lok
>> > axle
>> > differentials, and whatever software it takes to run it all.
>> >
>> > And this may be the root of the problem. All that stuff worked
>> > surperbly
>> > and absolutely transparently. I don't think I spun a wheel all summer,
>> > even
>> > on some pretty uneven, slimy stuff. Maybe I want the rest of it to be
>> > perfect too.
>> >
>> > Too greedy.
>> >
>> >> Perhaps if we factor in the V-8's power, the 3.73 gearing, and the
>> > Vari-Lok
>> >> differentials there is considerably more of a 'jerk' than shifting
>> >> gears
>> > in
>> >> 4Lo than you might expect in a 4 cylinder Wrangler with a stick..
>> >
>> > Oddly, none of the dealer service guys suggested it was the 'jerk'
>> > behind
>> > the wheel.
>> >
>> > Fred
>> >
>> >
--
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:43683C23.1B0BC3@***.net...
> http://web.archive.org/web/200410210.../chero4wd.html
> http://www.mcguiganmotors.com/grand_cherokee_4wd.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> Jeep's Quadra-Trac II sounds like they are trying to duplicate the Audi
>> quattros you are probably familiar with.
>>
>> --
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> .
>> "Fred Klingener" <gigabitbucket@brockeng.com> wrote in message
>> news:BXU9f.4606$Lv.1445@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net ...
>> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> > news:29526$4368147a$4831b233$19320@FUSE.NET...
>> >> Perhaps the new WK Grand Cherokee's are different.
>> >>
>> >> We know he has a Limited so we know it has a V-8 of unknown size.. He
>> > says
>> >> it has all the fancy differentials so perhaps it is the Quadra-Trac
>> >> II.
>> >
>> > It's the GCL with small V8 and Quadra-Drive II, which as far as I can
>> > tell,
>> > is the Quadra-Trac II transfer case with the pair of 'fancy' Vari-Lok
>> > axle
>> > differentials, and whatever software it takes to run it all.
>> >
>> > And this may be the root of the problem. All that stuff worked
>> > surperbly
>> > and absolutely transparently. I don't think I spun a wheel all summer,
>> > even
>> > on some pretty uneven, slimy stuff. Maybe I want the rest of it to be
>> > perfect too.
>> >
>> > Too greedy.
>> >
>> >> Perhaps if we factor in the V-8's power, the 3.73 gearing, and the
>> > Vari-Lok
>> >> differentials there is considerably more of a 'jerk' than shifting
>> >> gears
>> > in
>> >> 4Lo than you might expect in a 4 cylinder Wrangler with a stick..
>> >
>> > Oddly, none of the dealer service guys suggested it was the 'jerk'
>> > behind
>> > the wheel.
>> >
>> > Fred
>> >
>> >
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Re: First automatic
That raises a point about whether he has QuadraTracII or QuadraDrive
--
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:43683C23.1B0BC3@***.net...
> http://web.archive.org/web/200410210.../chero4wd.html
> http://www.mcguiganmotors.com/grand_cherokee_4wd.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> Jeep's Quadra-Trac II sounds like they are trying to duplicate the Audi
>> quattros you are probably familiar with.
>>
>> --
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> .
>> "Fred Klingener" <gigabitbucket@brockeng.com> wrote in message
>> news:BXU9f.4606$Lv.1445@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net ...
>> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> > news:29526$4368147a$4831b233$19320@FUSE.NET...
>> >> Perhaps the new WK Grand Cherokee's are different.
>> >>
>> >> We know he has a Limited so we know it has a V-8 of unknown size.. He
>> > says
>> >> it has all the fancy differentials so perhaps it is the Quadra-Trac
>> >> II.
>> >
>> > It's the GCL with small V8 and Quadra-Drive II, which as far as I can
>> > tell,
>> > is the Quadra-Trac II transfer case with the pair of 'fancy' Vari-Lok
>> > axle
>> > differentials, and whatever software it takes to run it all.
>> >
>> > And this may be the root of the problem. All that stuff worked
>> > surperbly
>> > and absolutely transparently. I don't think I spun a wheel all summer,
>> > even
>> > on some pretty uneven, slimy stuff. Maybe I want the rest of it to be
>> > perfect too.
>> >
>> > Too greedy.
>> >
>> >> Perhaps if we factor in the V-8's power, the 3.73 gearing, and the
>> > Vari-Lok
>> >> differentials there is considerably more of a 'jerk' than shifting
>> >> gears
>> > in
>> >> 4Lo than you might expect in a 4 cylinder Wrangler with a stick..
>> >
>> > Oddly, none of the dealer service guys suggested it was the 'jerk'
>> > behind
>> > the wheel.
>> >
>> > Fred
>> >
>> >
--
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:43683C23.1B0BC3@***.net...
> http://web.archive.org/web/200410210.../chero4wd.html
> http://www.mcguiganmotors.com/grand_cherokee_4wd.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> Jeep's Quadra-Trac II sounds like they are trying to duplicate the Audi
>> quattros you are probably familiar with.
>>
>> --
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> .
>> "Fred Klingener" <gigabitbucket@brockeng.com> wrote in message
>> news:BXU9f.4606$Lv.1445@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net ...
>> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> > news:29526$4368147a$4831b233$19320@FUSE.NET...
>> >> Perhaps the new WK Grand Cherokee's are different.
>> >>
>> >> We know he has a Limited so we know it has a V-8 of unknown size.. He
>> > says
>> >> it has all the fancy differentials so perhaps it is the Quadra-Trac
>> >> II.
>> >
>> > It's the GCL with small V8 and Quadra-Drive II, which as far as I can
>> > tell,
>> > is the Quadra-Trac II transfer case with the pair of 'fancy' Vari-Lok
>> > axle
>> > differentials, and whatever software it takes to run it all.
>> >
>> > And this may be the root of the problem. All that stuff worked
>> > surperbly
>> > and absolutely transparently. I don't think I spun a wheel all summer,
>> > even
>> > on some pretty uneven, slimy stuff. Maybe I want the rest of it to be
>> > perfect too.
>> >
>> > Too greedy.
>> >
>> >> Perhaps if we factor in the V-8's power, the 3.73 gearing, and the
>> > Vari-Lok
>> >> differentials there is considerably more of a 'jerk' than shifting
>> >> gears
>> > in
>> >> 4Lo than you might expect in a 4 cylinder Wrangler with a stick..
>> >
>> > Oddly, none of the dealer service guys suggested it was the 'jerk'
>> > behind
>> > the wheel.
>> >
>> > Fred
>> >
>> >
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Re: First automatic
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:2de72$43688e2d$4831b233$14108@FUSE.NET...
> That raises a point about whether he has QuadraTracII or QuadraDrive
For reasons I don't understand, Jeep evidently assembles the Quadra-Trac II
4H/4L/N transfer case with the Vari-Lok axle differentials and calls the
whole thing Quadra-Drive II.
Cheers,
Fred
news:2de72$43688e2d$4831b233$14108@FUSE.NET...
> That raises a point about whether he has QuadraTracII or QuadraDrive
For reasons I don't understand, Jeep evidently assembles the Quadra-Trac II
4H/4L/N transfer case with the Vari-Lok axle differentials and calls the
whole thing Quadra-Drive II.
Cheers,
Fred
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Re: First automatic
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:2de72$43688e2d$4831b233$14108@FUSE.NET...
> That raises a point about whether he has QuadraTracII or QuadraDrive
For reasons I don't understand, Jeep evidently assembles the Quadra-Trac II
4H/4L/N transfer case with the Vari-Lok axle differentials and calls the
whole thing Quadra-Drive II.
Cheers,
Fred
news:2de72$43688e2d$4831b233$14108@FUSE.NET...
> That raises a point about whether he has QuadraTracII or QuadraDrive
For reasons I don't understand, Jeep evidently assembles the Quadra-Trac II
4H/4L/N transfer case with the Vari-Lok axle differentials and calls the
whole thing Quadra-Drive II.
Cheers,
Fred
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Re: First automatic
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:2de72$43688e2d$4831b233$14108@FUSE.NET...
> That raises a point about whether he has QuadraTracII or QuadraDrive
For reasons I don't understand, Jeep evidently assembles the Quadra-Trac II
4H/4L/N transfer case with the Vari-Lok axle differentials and calls the
whole thing Quadra-Drive II.
Cheers,
Fred
news:2de72$43688e2d$4831b233$14108@FUSE.NET...
> That raises a point about whether he has QuadraTracII or QuadraDrive
For reasons I don't understand, Jeep evidently assembles the Quadra-Trac II
4H/4L/N transfer case with the Vari-Lok axle differentials and calls the
whole thing Quadra-Drive II.
Cheers,
Fred