Ethanol in Grand Cherokee
02-12-2006, 09:44 AM
#61
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Re: Ethanol in Grand Cherokee
Would be a good use for all the military bases that are slated to
close...put up nuclear power plants. GWB mentioned that a while back, but I
haven't heard much about it since. Yes, Bill, I agree with something W said.
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
And we should assign the management of the plants to the Navy, since they
have so much experience with nuclear power.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:43EE7F78.44C01486@***.net...
> We must use nuclear energy. Even a wind mill cost a million dollars
> worth of energy to make. Maybe asking the our Indians to use their
> sovereign nations, to build around these liberal wackos, will solve our
> problem. All we have to do is drop our use of petroleum by about ten
> percent and gasoline will become a useless by-product again.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>
>> Or that it is pure government pork. It takes the energy of 2/3s of a
>> gallon of gasoline to produce a gallon of pump-ready ethanol. A gallon
>> of ethanol holds 2/3s the energy of gasoline, so BTU-wise it is a wash.
>> I'm all for workable alternative energy sources, but in this case we
>> might just as well burn gasoline and pay farmers not to plant surplus
>> corn.
close...put up nuclear power plants. GWB mentioned that a while back, but I
haven't heard much about it since. Yes, Bill, I agree with something W said.
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
And we should assign the management of the plants to the Navy, since they
have so much experience with nuclear power.
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:43EE7F78.44C01486@***.net...
> We must use nuclear energy. Even a wind mill cost a million dollars
> worth of energy to make. Maybe asking the our Indians to use their
> sovereign nations, to build around these liberal wackos, will solve our
> problem. All we have to do is drop our use of petroleum by about ten
> percent and gasoline will become a useless by-product again.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>
>> Or that it is pure government pork. It takes the energy of 2/3s of a
>> gallon of gasoline to produce a gallon of pump-ready ethanol. A gallon
>> of ethanol holds 2/3s the energy of gasoline, so BTU-wise it is a wash.
>> I'm all for workable alternative energy sources, but in this case we
>> might just as well burn gasoline and pay farmers not to plant surplus
>> corn.
02-12-2006, 12:09 PM
#62
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Re: Ethanol in Grand Cherokee
We're drifting rapidly off-topic, but...
If the Navy's motivation was from stock owners demanding increased
profits then submersible boat plants wouldn't enjoy the safety record
that they do.
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Would be a good use for all the military bases that are slated to
> close...put up nuclear power plants. GWB mentioned that a while back, but I
> haven't heard much about it since. Yes, Bill, I agree with something W said.
> Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
>
> And we should assign the management of the plants to the Navy, since they
> have so much experience with nuclear power.
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:43EE7F78.44C01486@***.net...
>
>> We must use nuclear energy. Even a wind mill cost a million dollars
>>worth of energy to make. Maybe asking the our Indians to use their
>>sovereign nations, to build around these liberal wackos, will solve our
>>problem. All we have to do is drop our use of petroleum by about ten
>>percent and gasoline will become a useless by-product again.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>
>>>Or that it is pure government pork. It takes the energy of 2/3s of a
>>>gallon of gasoline to produce a gallon of pump-ready ethanol. A gallon
>>>of ethanol holds 2/3s the energy of gasoline, so BTU-wise it is a wash.
>>> I'm all for workable alternative energy sources, but in this case we
>>>might just as well burn gasoline and pay farmers not to plant surplus
>>>corn.
>
>
>
If the Navy's motivation was from stock owners demanding increased
profits then submersible boat plants wouldn't enjoy the safety record
that they do.
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Would be a good use for all the military bases that are slated to
> close...put up nuclear power plants. GWB mentioned that a while back, but I
> haven't heard much about it since. Yes, Bill, I agree with something W said.
> Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
>
> And we should assign the management of the plants to the Navy, since they
> have so much experience with nuclear power.
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:43EE7F78.44C01486@***.net...
>
>> We must use nuclear energy. Even a wind mill cost a million dollars
>>worth of energy to make. Maybe asking the our Indians to use their
>>sovereign nations, to build around these liberal wackos, will solve our
>>problem. All we have to do is drop our use of petroleum by about ten
>>percent and gasoline will become a useless by-product again.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>
>>>Or that it is pure government pork. It takes the energy of 2/3s of a
>>>gallon of gasoline to produce a gallon of pump-ready ethanol. A gallon
>>>of ethanol holds 2/3s the energy of gasoline, so BTU-wise it is a wash.
>>> I'm all for workable alternative energy sources, but in this case we
>>>might just as well burn gasoline and pay farmers not to plant surplus
>>>corn.
>
>
>
02-12-2006, 12:09 PM
#63
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Re: Ethanol in Grand Cherokee
We're drifting rapidly off-topic, but...
If the Navy's motivation was from stock owners demanding increased
profits then submersible boat plants wouldn't enjoy the safety record
that they do.
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Would be a good use for all the military bases that are slated to
> close...put up nuclear power plants. GWB mentioned that a while back, but I
> haven't heard much about it since. Yes, Bill, I agree with something W said.
> Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
>
> And we should assign the management of the plants to the Navy, since they
> have so much experience with nuclear power.
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:43EE7F78.44C01486@***.net...
>
>> We must use nuclear energy. Even a wind mill cost a million dollars
>>worth of energy to make. Maybe asking the our Indians to use their
>>sovereign nations, to build around these liberal wackos, will solve our
>>problem. All we have to do is drop our use of petroleum by about ten
>>percent and gasoline will become a useless by-product again.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>
>>>Or that it is pure government pork. It takes the energy of 2/3s of a
>>>gallon of gasoline to produce a gallon of pump-ready ethanol. A gallon
>>>of ethanol holds 2/3s the energy of gasoline, so BTU-wise it is a wash.
>>> I'm all for workable alternative energy sources, but in this case we
>>>might just as well burn gasoline and pay farmers not to plant surplus
>>>corn.
>
>
>
If the Navy's motivation was from stock owners demanding increased
profits then submersible boat plants wouldn't enjoy the safety record
that they do.
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Would be a good use for all the military bases that are slated to
> close...put up nuclear power plants. GWB mentioned that a while back, but I
> haven't heard much about it since. Yes, Bill, I agree with something W said.
> Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
>
> And we should assign the management of the plants to the Navy, since they
> have so much experience with nuclear power.
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:43EE7F78.44C01486@***.net...
>
>> We must use nuclear energy. Even a wind mill cost a million dollars
>>worth of energy to make. Maybe asking the our Indians to use their
>>sovereign nations, to build around these liberal wackos, will solve our
>>problem. All we have to do is drop our use of petroleum by about ten
>>percent and gasoline will become a useless by-product again.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>
>>>Or that it is pure government pork. It takes the energy of 2/3s of a
>>>gallon of gasoline to produce a gallon of pump-ready ethanol. A gallon
>>>of ethanol holds 2/3s the energy of gasoline, so BTU-wise it is a wash.
>>> I'm all for workable alternative energy sources, but in this case we
>>>might just as well burn gasoline and pay farmers not to plant surplus
>>>corn.
>
>
>
02-12-2006, 12:09 PM
#64
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Re: Ethanol in Grand Cherokee
We're drifting rapidly off-topic, but...
If the Navy's motivation was from stock owners demanding increased
profits then submersible boat plants wouldn't enjoy the safety record
that they do.
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Would be a good use for all the military bases that are slated to
> close...put up nuclear power plants. GWB mentioned that a while back, but I
> haven't heard much about it since. Yes, Bill, I agree with something W said.
> Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
>
> And we should assign the management of the plants to the Navy, since they
> have so much experience with nuclear power.
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:43EE7F78.44C01486@***.net...
>
>> We must use nuclear energy. Even a wind mill cost a million dollars
>>worth of energy to make. Maybe asking the our Indians to use their
>>sovereign nations, to build around these liberal wackos, will solve our
>>problem. All we have to do is drop our use of petroleum by about ten
>>percent and gasoline will become a useless by-product again.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>
>>>Or that it is pure government pork. It takes the energy of 2/3s of a
>>>gallon of gasoline to produce a gallon of pump-ready ethanol. A gallon
>>>of ethanol holds 2/3s the energy of gasoline, so BTU-wise it is a wash.
>>> I'm all for workable alternative energy sources, but in this case we
>>>might just as well burn gasoline and pay farmers not to plant surplus
>>>corn.
>
>
>
If the Navy's motivation was from stock owners demanding increased
profits then submersible boat plants wouldn't enjoy the safety record
that they do.
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Would be a good use for all the military bases that are slated to
> close...put up nuclear power plants. GWB mentioned that a while back, but I
> haven't heard much about it since. Yes, Bill, I agree with something W said.
> Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
>
> And we should assign the management of the plants to the Navy, since they
> have so much experience with nuclear power.
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:43EE7F78.44C01486@***.net...
>
>> We must use nuclear energy. Even a wind mill cost a million dollars
>>worth of energy to make. Maybe asking the our Indians to use their
>>sovereign nations, to build around these liberal wackos, will solve our
>>problem. All we have to do is drop our use of petroleum by about ten
>>percent and gasoline will become a useless by-product again.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>
>>>Or that it is pure government pork. It takes the energy of 2/3s of a
>>>gallon of gasoline to produce a gallon of pump-ready ethanol. A gallon
>>>of ethanol holds 2/3s the energy of gasoline, so BTU-wise it is a wash.
>>> I'm all for workable alternative energy sources, but in this case we
>>>might just as well burn gasoline and pay farmers not to plant surplus
>>>corn.
>
>
>
02-12-2006, 12:09 PM
#65
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Re: Ethanol in Grand Cherokee
We're drifting rapidly off-topic, but...
If the Navy's motivation was from stock owners demanding increased
profits then submersible boat plants wouldn't enjoy the safety record
that they do.
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Would be a good use for all the military bases that are slated to
> close...put up nuclear power plants. GWB mentioned that a while back, but I
> haven't heard much about it since. Yes, Bill, I agree with something W said.
> Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
>
> And we should assign the management of the plants to the Navy, since they
> have so much experience with nuclear power.
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:43EE7F78.44C01486@***.net...
>
>> We must use nuclear energy. Even a wind mill cost a million dollars
>>worth of energy to make. Maybe asking the our Indians to use their
>>sovereign nations, to build around these liberal wackos, will solve our
>>problem. All we have to do is drop our use of petroleum by about ten
>>percent and gasoline will become a useless by-product again.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>
>>>Or that it is pure government pork. It takes the energy of 2/3s of a
>>>gallon of gasoline to produce a gallon of pump-ready ethanol. A gallon
>>>of ethanol holds 2/3s the energy of gasoline, so BTU-wise it is a wash.
>>> I'm all for workable alternative energy sources, but in this case we
>>>might just as well burn gasoline and pay farmers not to plant surplus
>>>corn.
>
>
>
If the Navy's motivation was from stock owners demanding increased
profits then submersible boat plants wouldn't enjoy the safety record
that they do.
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Would be a good use for all the military bases that are slated to
> close...put up nuclear power plants. GWB mentioned that a while back, but I
> haven't heard much about it since. Yes, Bill, I agree with something W said.
> Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
>
> And we should assign the management of the plants to the Navy, since they
> have so much experience with nuclear power.
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:43EE7F78.44C01486@***.net...
>
>> We must use nuclear energy. Even a wind mill cost a million dollars
>>worth of energy to make. Maybe asking the our Indians to use their
>>sovereign nations, to build around these liberal wackos, will solve our
>>problem. All we have to do is drop our use of petroleum by about ten
>>percent and gasoline will become a useless by-product again.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>
>>>Or that it is pure government pork. It takes the energy of 2/3s of a
>>>gallon of gasoline to produce a gallon of pump-ready ethanol. A gallon
>>>of ethanol holds 2/3s the energy of gasoline, so BTU-wise it is a wash.
>>> I'm all for workable alternative energy sources, but in this case we
>>>might just as well burn gasoline and pay farmers not to plant surplus
>>>corn.
>
>
>
02-12-2006, 12:19 PM
#66
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Re: Ethanol in Grand Cherokee
Then the project should be federalized. (flame suit on)
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:dsnpf7$a9k$1@reader2.panix.com...
> We're drifting rapidly off-topic, but...
>
> If the Navy's motivation was from stock owners demanding increased profits
> then submersible boat plants wouldn't enjoy the safety record that they
> do.
>
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> Would be a good use for all the military bases that are slated to
>> close...put up nuclear power plants. GWB mentioned that a while back, but
>> I haven't heard much about it since. Yes, Bill, I agree with something W
>> said. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
>>
>> And we should assign the management of the plants to the Navy, since they
>> have so much experience with nuclear power.
>>
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:43EE7F78.44C01486@***.net...
>>
>>> We must use nuclear energy. Even a wind mill cost a million dollars
>>>worth of energy to make. Maybe asking the our Indians to use their
>>>sovereign nations, to build around these liberal wackos, will solve our
>>>problem. All we have to do is drop our use of petroleum by about ten
>>>percent and gasoline will become a useless by-product again.
>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>>Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>>
>>>>Or that it is pure government pork. It takes the energy of 2/3s of a
>>>>gallon of gasoline to produce a gallon of pump-ready ethanol. A gallon
>>>>of ethanol holds 2/3s the energy of gasoline, so BTU-wise it is a wash.
>>>> I'm all for workable alternative energy sources, but in this case we
>>>>might just as well burn gasoline and pay farmers not to plant surplus
>>>>corn.
>>
>>
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:dsnpf7$a9k$1@reader2.panix.com...
> We're drifting rapidly off-topic, but...
>
> If the Navy's motivation was from stock owners demanding increased profits
> then submersible boat plants wouldn't enjoy the safety record that they
> do.
>
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> Would be a good use for all the military bases that are slated to
>> close...put up nuclear power plants. GWB mentioned that a while back, but
>> I haven't heard much about it since. Yes, Bill, I agree with something W
>> said. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
>>
>> And we should assign the management of the plants to the Navy, since they
>> have so much experience with nuclear power.
>>
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:43EE7F78.44C01486@***.net...
>>
>>> We must use nuclear energy. Even a wind mill cost a million dollars
>>>worth of energy to make. Maybe asking the our Indians to use their
>>>sovereign nations, to build around these liberal wackos, will solve our
>>>problem. All we have to do is drop our use of petroleum by about ten
>>>percent and gasoline will become a useless by-product again.
>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>>Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>>
>>>>Or that it is pure government pork. It takes the energy of 2/3s of a
>>>>gallon of gasoline to produce a gallon of pump-ready ethanol. A gallon
>>>>of ethanol holds 2/3s the energy of gasoline, so BTU-wise it is a wash.
>>>> I'm all for workable alternative energy sources, but in this case we
>>>>might just as well burn gasoline and pay farmers not to plant surplus
>>>>corn.
>>
>>
02-12-2006, 12:19 PM
#67
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Posts: n/a
Re: Ethanol in Grand Cherokee
Then the project should be federalized. (flame suit on)
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:dsnpf7$a9k$1@reader2.panix.com...
> We're drifting rapidly off-topic, but...
>
> If the Navy's motivation was from stock owners demanding increased profits
> then submersible boat plants wouldn't enjoy the safety record that they
> do.
>
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> Would be a good use for all the military bases that are slated to
>> close...put up nuclear power plants. GWB mentioned that a while back, but
>> I haven't heard much about it since. Yes, Bill, I agree with something W
>> said. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
>>
>> And we should assign the management of the plants to the Navy, since they
>> have so much experience with nuclear power.
>>
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:43EE7F78.44C01486@***.net...
>>
>>> We must use nuclear energy. Even a wind mill cost a million dollars
>>>worth of energy to make. Maybe asking the our Indians to use their
>>>sovereign nations, to build around these liberal wackos, will solve our
>>>problem. All we have to do is drop our use of petroleum by about ten
>>>percent and gasoline will become a useless by-product again.
>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>>Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>>
>>>>Or that it is pure government pork. It takes the energy of 2/3s of a
>>>>gallon of gasoline to produce a gallon of pump-ready ethanol. A gallon
>>>>of ethanol holds 2/3s the energy of gasoline, so BTU-wise it is a wash.
>>>> I'm all for workable alternative energy sources, but in this case we
>>>>might just as well burn gasoline and pay farmers not to plant surplus
>>>>corn.
>>
>>
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:dsnpf7$a9k$1@reader2.panix.com...
> We're drifting rapidly off-topic, but...
>
> If the Navy's motivation was from stock owners demanding increased profits
> then submersible boat plants wouldn't enjoy the safety record that they
> do.
>
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> Would be a good use for all the military bases that are slated to
>> close...put up nuclear power plants. GWB mentioned that a while back, but
>> I haven't heard much about it since. Yes, Bill, I agree with something W
>> said. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
>>
>> And we should assign the management of the plants to the Navy, since they
>> have so much experience with nuclear power.
>>
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:43EE7F78.44C01486@***.net...
>>
>>> We must use nuclear energy. Even a wind mill cost a million dollars
>>>worth of energy to make. Maybe asking the our Indians to use their
>>>sovereign nations, to build around these liberal wackos, will solve our
>>>problem. All we have to do is drop our use of petroleum by about ten
>>>percent and gasoline will become a useless by-product again.
>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>>Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>>
>>>>Or that it is pure government pork. It takes the energy of 2/3s of a
>>>>gallon of gasoline to produce a gallon of pump-ready ethanol. A gallon
>>>>of ethanol holds 2/3s the energy of gasoline, so BTU-wise it is a wash.
>>>> I'm all for workable alternative energy sources, but in this case we
>>>>might just as well burn gasoline and pay farmers not to plant surplus
>>>>corn.
>>
>>
02-12-2006, 12:19 PM
#68
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Ethanol in Grand Cherokee
Then the project should be federalized. (flame suit on)
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:dsnpf7$a9k$1@reader2.panix.com...
> We're drifting rapidly off-topic, but...
>
> If the Navy's motivation was from stock owners demanding increased profits
> then submersible boat plants wouldn't enjoy the safety record that they
> do.
>
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> Would be a good use for all the military bases that are slated to
>> close...put up nuclear power plants. GWB mentioned that a while back, but
>> I haven't heard much about it since. Yes, Bill, I agree with something W
>> said. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
>>
>> And we should assign the management of the plants to the Navy, since they
>> have so much experience with nuclear power.
>>
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:43EE7F78.44C01486@***.net...
>>
>>> We must use nuclear energy. Even a wind mill cost a million dollars
>>>worth of energy to make. Maybe asking the our Indians to use their
>>>sovereign nations, to build around these liberal wackos, will solve our
>>>problem. All we have to do is drop our use of petroleum by about ten
>>>percent and gasoline will become a useless by-product again.
>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>>Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>>
>>>>Or that it is pure government pork. It takes the energy of 2/3s of a
>>>>gallon of gasoline to produce a gallon of pump-ready ethanol. A gallon
>>>>of ethanol holds 2/3s the energy of gasoline, so BTU-wise it is a wash.
>>>> I'm all for workable alternative energy sources, but in this case we
>>>>might just as well burn gasoline and pay farmers not to plant surplus
>>>>corn.
>>
>>
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:dsnpf7$a9k$1@reader2.panix.com...
> We're drifting rapidly off-topic, but...
>
> If the Navy's motivation was from stock owners demanding increased profits
> then submersible boat plants wouldn't enjoy the safety record that they
> do.
>
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> Would be a good use for all the military bases that are slated to
>> close...put up nuclear power plants. GWB mentioned that a while back, but
>> I haven't heard much about it since. Yes, Bill, I agree with something W
>> said. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
>>
>> And we should assign the management of the plants to the Navy, since they
>> have so much experience with nuclear power.
>>
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:43EE7F78.44C01486@***.net...
>>
>>> We must use nuclear energy. Even a wind mill cost a million dollars
>>>worth of energy to make. Maybe asking the our Indians to use their
>>>sovereign nations, to build around these liberal wackos, will solve our
>>>problem. All we have to do is drop our use of petroleum by about ten
>>>percent and gasoline will become a useless by-product again.
>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>>Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>>
>>>>Or that it is pure government pork. It takes the energy of 2/3s of a
>>>>gallon of gasoline to produce a gallon of pump-ready ethanol. A gallon
>>>>of ethanol holds 2/3s the energy of gasoline, so BTU-wise it is a wash.
>>>> I'm all for workable alternative energy sources, but in this case we
>>>>might just as well burn gasoline and pay farmers not to plant surplus
>>>>corn.
>>
>>
02-12-2006, 12:19 PM
#69
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Posts: n/a
Re: Ethanol in Grand Cherokee
Then the project should be federalized. (flame suit on)
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:dsnpf7$a9k$1@reader2.panix.com...
> We're drifting rapidly off-topic, but...
>
> If the Navy's motivation was from stock owners demanding increased profits
> then submersible boat plants wouldn't enjoy the safety record that they
> do.
>
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> Would be a good use for all the military bases that are slated to
>> close...put up nuclear power plants. GWB mentioned that a while back, but
>> I haven't heard much about it since. Yes, Bill, I agree with something W
>> said. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
>>
>> And we should assign the management of the plants to the Navy, since they
>> have so much experience with nuclear power.
>>
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:43EE7F78.44C01486@***.net...
>>
>>> We must use nuclear energy. Even a wind mill cost a million dollars
>>>worth of energy to make. Maybe asking the our Indians to use their
>>>sovereign nations, to build around these liberal wackos, will solve our
>>>problem. All we have to do is drop our use of petroleum by about ten
>>>percent and gasoline will become a useless by-product again.
>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>>Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>>
>>>>Or that it is pure government pork. It takes the energy of 2/3s of a
>>>>gallon of gasoline to produce a gallon of pump-ready ethanol. A gallon
>>>>of ethanol holds 2/3s the energy of gasoline, so BTU-wise it is a wash.
>>>> I'm all for workable alternative energy sources, but in this case we
>>>>might just as well burn gasoline and pay farmers not to plant surplus
>>>>corn.
>>
>>
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:dsnpf7$a9k$1@reader2.panix.com...
> We're drifting rapidly off-topic, but...
>
> If the Navy's motivation was from stock owners demanding increased profits
> then submersible boat plants wouldn't enjoy the safety record that they
> do.
>
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> Would be a good use for all the military bases that are slated to
>> close...put up nuclear power plants. GWB mentioned that a while back, but
>> I haven't heard much about it since. Yes, Bill, I agree with something W
>> said. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
>>
>> And we should assign the management of the plants to the Navy, since they
>> have so much experience with nuclear power.
>>
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:43EE7F78.44C01486@***.net...
>>
>>> We must use nuclear energy. Even a wind mill cost a million dollars
>>>worth of energy to make. Maybe asking the our Indians to use their
>>>sovereign nations, to build around these liberal wackos, will solve our
>>>problem. All we have to do is drop our use of petroleum by about ten
>>>percent and gasoline will become a useless by-product again.
>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>>Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>>
>>>>Or that it is pure government pork. It takes the energy of 2/3s of a
>>>>gallon of gasoline to produce a gallon of pump-ready ethanol. A gallon
>>>>of ethanol holds 2/3s the energy of gasoline, so BTU-wise it is a wash.
>>>> I'm all for workable alternative energy sources, but in this case we
>>>>might just as well burn gasoline and pay farmers not to plant surplus
>>>>corn.
>>
>>
02-12-2006, 03:39 PM
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Re: Ethanol in Grand Cherokee
that's the blend i was saying does not belong in the jeep it might run
okay for a little while but then the fuel rail will start to rust
internally and athe injectors will act up and thats just the beginning
just so u know the minivans with the 3.3 and 3.8 do run on the e85 fuel
Chris Lamb wrote:
> I don't know about that politics stuff those guys were talking about.
> I'm just trying to feed six kids and make ends meet. The stuff I am
> talking about putting into it says E-85 on the pump. It is $1.94 a
> gallon. Reg 87 at BP costs $2.49.
>
> On 11 Feb 2006 10:13:03 -0800, "larry"
> <larry.greenwood@minotstateu.edu> wrote:
>
> >Chris, I use it because of the higher octane rating in a GC 2001 V8.
> >But it is not cheaper up here in ND. It costs the same as regular.
> >According the GC owner's manual, its ok to use a 10% blend. I am not
> >sure if the mileage is any better over regular.
> >
> >Larry Greenwood
> >
> >God Bless America's Trees, Larry O|||||||O
> >
okay for a little while but then the fuel rail will start to rust
internally and athe injectors will act up and thats just the beginning
just so u know the minivans with the 3.3 and 3.8 do run on the e85 fuel
Chris Lamb wrote:
> I don't know about that politics stuff those guys were talking about.
> I'm just trying to feed six kids and make ends meet. The stuff I am
> talking about putting into it says E-85 on the pump. It is $1.94 a
> gallon. Reg 87 at BP costs $2.49.
>
> On 11 Feb 2006 10:13:03 -0800, "larry"
> <larry.greenwood@minotstateu.edu> wrote:
>
> >Chris, I use it because of the higher octane rating in a GC 2001 V8.
> >But it is not cheaper up here in ND. It costs the same as regular.
> >According the GC owner's manual, its ok to use a 10% blend. I am not
> >sure if the mileage is any better over regular.
> >
> >Larry Greenwood
> >
> >God Bless America's Trees, Larry O|||||||O
> >
