Ethanol in Grand Cherokee
02-14-2006, 08:17 PM
#141
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Re: Ethanol in Grand Cherokee
I thank ARCO out here and their ten percent water and alcohol for
making me rebuild my carburetor's neoprene seats for the older steel
used back in the twenties.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Mike Romain wrote:
>
> My owners manual says to only use alcohol mix in an emergency to get to
> real gas no matter how many drying agents they say they put in.....
>
> I also lose 100 miles per tank with the crap.
>
> Have you read the owners manual of your Jeep?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
making me rebuild my carburetor's neoprene seats for the older steel
used back in the twenties.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> My owners manual says to only use alcohol mix in an emergency to get to
> real gas no matter how many drying agents they say they put in.....
>
> I also lose 100 miles per tank with the crap.
>
> Have you read the owners manual of your Jeep?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
02-14-2006, 08:30 PM
#142
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Re: Ethanol in Grand Cherokee
Truckers if they don't have the prorated Arizona tag must pay at
their boarder seventy five bucks each time they go the hundred miles to
Phoenix. And that just one of the many excise taxes I PAID! So don't
wrote that ignorant bullsh*t!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> The other problem is that vehicles wear roads disproportionately as to
> weight. A 1974 Cadillac Eldorado doesn't wear roads any more than a
> Toyota Tercel, but a tractor trailer at 80,000 lbs wears them at
> something like thirty times the rate of the Cadillac. The speed of the
> truck and the distance between the driver and trailer tandems puts a
> ripple on the road at a certain pitch or length. If trucks paid their
> proportional share of road wear and services trucking would be much
> more expensive. Efficient regional railroads, not the highways, are
> the cheapest and most efficient way to move heavy freight.
their boarder seventy five bucks each time they go the hundred miles to
Phoenix. And that just one of the many excise taxes I PAID! So don't
wrote that ignorant bullsh*t!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> The other problem is that vehicles wear roads disproportionately as to
> weight. A 1974 Cadillac Eldorado doesn't wear roads any more than a
> Toyota Tercel, but a tractor trailer at 80,000 lbs wears them at
> something like thirty times the rate of the Cadillac. The speed of the
> truck and the distance between the driver and trailer tandems puts a
> ripple on the road at a certain pitch or length. If trucks paid their
> proportional share of road wear and services trucking would be much
> more expensive. Efficient regional railroads, not the highways, are
> the cheapest and most efficient way to move heavy freight.
02-14-2006, 08:30 PM
#143
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Re: Ethanol in Grand Cherokee
Truckers if they don't have the prorated Arizona tag must pay at
their boarder seventy five bucks each time they go the hundred miles to
Phoenix. And that just one of the many excise taxes I PAID! So don't
wrote that ignorant bullsh*t!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> The other problem is that vehicles wear roads disproportionately as to
> weight. A 1974 Cadillac Eldorado doesn't wear roads any more than a
> Toyota Tercel, but a tractor trailer at 80,000 lbs wears them at
> something like thirty times the rate of the Cadillac. The speed of the
> truck and the distance between the driver and trailer tandems puts a
> ripple on the road at a certain pitch or length. If trucks paid their
> proportional share of road wear and services trucking would be much
> more expensive. Efficient regional railroads, not the highways, are
> the cheapest and most efficient way to move heavy freight.
their boarder seventy five bucks each time they go the hundred miles to
Phoenix. And that just one of the many excise taxes I PAID! So don't
wrote that ignorant bullsh*t!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> The other problem is that vehicles wear roads disproportionately as to
> weight. A 1974 Cadillac Eldorado doesn't wear roads any more than a
> Toyota Tercel, but a tractor trailer at 80,000 lbs wears them at
> something like thirty times the rate of the Cadillac. The speed of the
> truck and the distance between the driver and trailer tandems puts a
> ripple on the road at a certain pitch or length. If trucks paid their
> proportional share of road wear and services trucking would be much
> more expensive. Efficient regional railroads, not the highways, are
> the cheapest and most efficient way to move heavy freight.
02-14-2006, 08:30 PM
#144
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Re: Ethanol in Grand Cherokee
Truckers if they don't have the prorated Arizona tag must pay at
their boarder seventy five bucks each time they go the hundred miles to
Phoenix. And that just one of the many excise taxes I PAID! So don't
wrote that ignorant bullsh*t!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> The other problem is that vehicles wear roads disproportionately as to
> weight. A 1974 Cadillac Eldorado doesn't wear roads any more than a
> Toyota Tercel, but a tractor trailer at 80,000 lbs wears them at
> something like thirty times the rate of the Cadillac. The speed of the
> truck and the distance between the driver and trailer tandems puts a
> ripple on the road at a certain pitch or length. If trucks paid their
> proportional share of road wear and services trucking would be much
> more expensive. Efficient regional railroads, not the highways, are
> the cheapest and most efficient way to move heavy freight.
their boarder seventy five bucks each time they go the hundred miles to
Phoenix. And that just one of the many excise taxes I PAID! So don't
wrote that ignorant bullsh*t!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> The other problem is that vehicles wear roads disproportionately as to
> weight. A 1974 Cadillac Eldorado doesn't wear roads any more than a
> Toyota Tercel, but a tractor trailer at 80,000 lbs wears them at
> something like thirty times the rate of the Cadillac. The speed of the
> truck and the distance between the driver and trailer tandems puts a
> ripple on the road at a certain pitch or length. If trucks paid their
> proportional share of road wear and services trucking would be much
> more expensive. Efficient regional railroads, not the highways, are
> the cheapest and most efficient way to move heavy freight.
02-14-2006, 08:30 PM
#145
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Re: Ethanol in Grand Cherokee
Truckers if they don't have the prorated Arizona tag must pay at
their boarder seventy five bucks each time they go the hundred miles to
Phoenix. And that just one of the many excise taxes I PAID! So don't
wrote that ignorant bullsh*t!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> The other problem is that vehicles wear roads disproportionately as to
> weight. A 1974 Cadillac Eldorado doesn't wear roads any more than a
> Toyota Tercel, but a tractor trailer at 80,000 lbs wears them at
> something like thirty times the rate of the Cadillac. The speed of the
> truck and the distance between the driver and trailer tandems puts a
> ripple on the road at a certain pitch or length. If trucks paid their
> proportional share of road wear and services trucking would be much
> more expensive. Efficient regional railroads, not the highways, are
> the cheapest and most efficient way to move heavy freight.
their boarder seventy five bucks each time they go the hundred miles to
Phoenix. And that just one of the many excise taxes I PAID! So don't
wrote that ignorant bullsh*t!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> The other problem is that vehicles wear roads disproportionately as to
> weight. A 1974 Cadillac Eldorado doesn't wear roads any more than a
> Toyota Tercel, but a tractor trailer at 80,000 lbs wears them at
> something like thirty times the rate of the Cadillac. The speed of the
> truck and the distance between the driver and trailer tandems puts a
> ripple on the road at a certain pitch or length. If trucks paid their
> proportional share of road wear and services trucking would be much
> more expensive. Efficient regional railroads, not the highways, are
> the cheapest and most efficient way to move heavy freight.
02-14-2006, 08:40 PM
#146
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Re: Ethanol in Grand Cherokee
L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> An E100 if that's the Ford van you're talking about, then all their
> blocks are cast iron.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Considering that a good proportion of the alcohol burning cars in
> > Brazil are VWs with almag cases and they are not "vaporizing", and
> > considering the insides of the AEIO-540 Lycs operated on E100 by a US
> > aerobatic team that I saw myself were as clean inside as the day they
> > came out of Williamsport.....I can assuredly state you are on powerful
> > drugs as is so often the case. No pun intended.
Thank you for proving this. E100 in this case means 100 percent
Ethanol.
02-14-2006, 08:40 PM
#147
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Re: Ethanol in Grand Cherokee
L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> An E100 if that's the Ford van you're talking about, then all their
> blocks are cast iron.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Considering that a good proportion of the alcohol burning cars in
> > Brazil are VWs with almag cases and they are not "vaporizing", and
> > considering the insides of the AEIO-540 Lycs operated on E100 by a US
> > aerobatic team that I saw myself were as clean inside as the day they
> > came out of Williamsport.....I can assuredly state you are on powerful
> > drugs as is so often the case. No pun intended.
Thank you for proving this. E100 in this case means 100 percent
Ethanol.
02-14-2006, 08:40 PM
#148
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Re: Ethanol in Grand Cherokee
L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> An E100 if that's the Ford van you're talking about, then all their
> blocks are cast iron.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Considering that a good proportion of the alcohol burning cars in
> > Brazil are VWs with almag cases and they are not "vaporizing", and
> > considering the insides of the AEIO-540 Lycs operated on E100 by a US
> > aerobatic team that I saw myself were as clean inside as the day they
> > came out of Williamsport.....I can assuredly state you are on powerful
> > drugs as is so often the case. No pun intended.
Thank you for proving this. E100 in this case means 100 percent
Ethanol.
02-14-2006, 08:40 PM
#149
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Re: Ethanol in Grand Cherokee
L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> An E100 if that's the Ford van you're talking about, then all their
> blocks are cast iron.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Considering that a good proportion of the alcohol burning cars in
> > Brazil are VWs with almag cases and they are not "vaporizing", and
> > considering the insides of the AEIO-540 Lycs operated on E100 by a US
> > aerobatic team that I saw myself were as clean inside as the day they
> > came out of Williamsport.....I can assuredly state you are on powerful
> > drugs as is so often the case. No pun intended.
Thank you for proving this. E100 in this case means 100 percent
Ethanol.
02-14-2006, 08:45 PM
#150
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Re: Ethanol in Grand Cherokee
Mike Romain wrote:
<<snjip>>
>
> My owners manual says to only use alcohol mix in an emergency to get to
> real gas no matter how many drying agents they say they put in.....
>
> I also lose 100 miles per tank with the crap.
>
> Have you read the owners manual of your Jeep?
The owner's manual pertains to the stock vehicle. We are talking about
modified vehicles. Alcohol is here to stay and you must modify the
vehicle for the fuel or buy a new one. If it's old enough to have a
carb some refurbishment is about time anyway. This is for the ten
percent alcohol. i would leave the 85% aklone in Canada, it's too cold
for that up there. As a matter of fact it's too cold up there, period.
I would move to Vancouver or emigrate as a climactic refugee....just
kidding.