Scott in Baltimore wrote:
> Vito wrote:
>
>> Trucks do pay higher taxes but not enough to compensate for the damage
>> they do
>> to roads. Blame Nixon. The interstates were designed to support a
>> given weight
>> and trucks were limited to 60,000# IIRC so as not to exceed that even if
>> slightly overloaded. When Nixon ordered 55MPH the industry hollered
>> so he upped
>> the limit to 80,000. That flexes the roadbed too much creating breakup
>> and rapid
>> wear. You can see the damage as tire-size ridges on asphault
>> interstates -
>> asphault simply cannot support the weight.
>
>
> I love driving over the six inch ridges at intersections from big trucks.
> Really shakes my kidneys! Jeeps bounce a lot more then passenger cars do.

It's really much more fun on in bumper-to-bumper traffic on slick
roadways at 70 MPH in a 5-ton truck -- with an axle width just a few
inches narrower than all the big trucks run.

 

Scott in Baltimore wrote:
> Vito wrote:
>
>> Trucks do pay higher taxes but not enough to compensate for the damage
>> they do
>> to roads. Blame Nixon. The interstates were designed to support a
>> given weight
>> and trucks were limited to 60,000# IIRC so as not to exceed that even if
>> slightly overloaded. When Nixon ordered 55MPH the industry hollered
>> so he upped
>> the limit to 80,000. That flexes the roadbed too much creating breakup
>> and rapid
>> wear. You can see the damage as tire-size ridges on asphault
>> interstates -
>> asphault simply cannot support the weight.
>
>
> I love driving over the six inch ridges at intersections from big trucks.
> Really shakes my kidneys! Jeeps bounce a lot more then passenger cars do.

It's really much more fun on in bumper-to-bumper traffic on slick
roadways at 70 MPH in a 5-ton truck -- with an axle width just a few
inches narrower than all the big trucks run.

 

Scott in Baltimore wrote:
> Vito wrote:
>
>> Trucks do pay higher taxes but not enough to compensate for the damage
>> they do
>> to roads. Blame Nixon. The interstates were designed to support a
>> given weight
>> and trucks were limited to 60,000# IIRC so as not to exceed that even if
>> slightly overloaded. When Nixon ordered 55MPH the industry hollered
>> so he upped
>> the limit to 80,000. That flexes the roadbed too much creating breakup
>> and rapid
>> wear. You can see the damage as tire-size ridges on asphault
>> interstates -
>> asphault simply cannot support the weight.
>
>
> I love driving over the six inch ridges at intersections from big trucks.
> Really shakes my kidneys! Jeeps bounce a lot more then passenger cars do.

It's really much more fun on in bumper-to-bumper traffic on slick
roadways at 70 MPH in a 5-ton truck -- with an axle width just a few
inches narrower than all the big trucks run.

 

Not any glow fuel I ever used. Typically alcohol, sometimes with a bit
of nitromethane and an oil. The older ones definitely used castor oil,
which had pretty much a smaller but similar effect as the aircraft
castor oil did on older pilots. Aka why there was always an outhouse
near the landing fields.

L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed:

> "castor oil flavoured" You have to do better than that! And yes I
> remember the smell, very much like model airplane fuel, which of course
> is petroleum.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

 

Not any glow fuel I ever used. Typically alcohol, sometimes with a bit
of nitromethane and an oil. The older ones definitely used castor oil,
which had pretty much a smaller but similar effect as the aircraft
castor oil did on older pilots. Aka why there was always an outhouse
near the landing fields.

L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed:

> "castor oil flavoured" You have to do better than that! And yes I
> remember the smell, very much like model airplane fuel, which of course
> is petroleum.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

 

Not any glow fuel I ever used. Typically alcohol, sometimes with a bit
of nitromethane and an oil. The older ones definitely used castor oil,
which had pretty much a smaller but similar effect as the aircraft
castor oil did on older pilots. Aka why there was always an outhouse
near the landing fields.

L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed:

> "castor oil flavoured" You have to do better than that! And yes I
> remember the smell, very much like model airplane fuel, which of course
> is petroleum.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

 

Not any glow fuel I ever used. Typically alcohol, sometimes with a bit
of nitromethane and an oil. The older ones definitely used castor oil,
which had pretty much a smaller but similar effect as the aircraft
castor oil did on older pilots. Aka why there was always an outhouse
near the landing fields.

L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed:

> "castor oil flavoured" You have to do better than that! And yes I
> remember the smell, very much like model airplane fuel, which of course
> is petroleum.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

 

If you don't contract out construction of your highways to your
governors illiterate brother in law, the trucks don't do near as much
damage.

Vito proclaimed:

> Trucks do pay higher taxes but not enough to compensate for the damage they do
> to roads. Blame Nixon. The interstates were designed to support a given weight
> and trucks were limited to 60,000# IIRC so as not to exceed that even if
> slightly overloaded. When Nixon ordered 55MPH the industry hollered so he upped
> the limit to 80,000. That flexes the roadbed too much creating breakup and rapid
> wear. You can see the damage as tire-size ridges on asphault interstates -
> asphault simply cannot support the weight.
>
> The solution is not higher taxes but lighter loads and/or more wheels/tires to
> ------ it over a greater area.
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote ...
>
>> Truckers if they don't have the prorated Arizona tag must pay at
>>their boarder seventy five bucks each time they go the hundred miles to
>>Phoenix. And that just one of the many excise taxes I PAID! So don't
>>wrote that ignorant bullsh*t!
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Bret Ludwig wrote:
>>
>>> The other problem is that vehicles wear roads disproportionately as to
>>>weight. A 1974 Cadillac Eldorado doesn't wear roads any more than a
>>>Toyota Tercel, but a tractor trailer at 80,000 lbs wears them at
>>>something like thirty times the rate of the Cadillac. The speed of the
>>>truck and the distance between the driver and trailer tandems puts a
>>>ripple on the road at a certain pitch or length. If trucks paid their
>>>proportional share of road wear and services trucking would be much
>>>more expensive. Efficient regional railroads, not the highways, are
>>>the cheapest and most efficient way to move heavy freight.
>
>
>

 

If you don't contract out construction of your highways to your
governors illiterate brother in law, the trucks don't do near as much
damage.

Vito proclaimed:

> Trucks do pay higher taxes but not enough to compensate for the damage they do
> to roads. Blame Nixon. The interstates were designed to support a given weight
> and trucks were limited to 60,000# IIRC so as not to exceed that even if
> slightly overloaded. When Nixon ordered 55MPH the industry hollered so he upped
> the limit to 80,000. That flexes the roadbed too much creating breakup and rapid
> wear. You can see the damage as tire-size ridges on asphault interstates -
> asphault simply cannot support the weight.
>
> The solution is not higher taxes but lighter loads and/or more wheels/tires to
> ------ it over a greater area.
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote ...
>
>> Truckers if they don't have the prorated Arizona tag must pay at
>>their boarder seventy five bucks each time they go the hundred miles to
>>Phoenix. And that just one of the many excise taxes I PAID! So don't
>>wrote that ignorant bullsh*t!
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Bret Ludwig wrote:
>>
>>> The other problem is that vehicles wear roads disproportionately as to
>>>weight. A 1974 Cadillac Eldorado doesn't wear roads any more than a
>>>Toyota Tercel, but a tractor trailer at 80,000 lbs wears them at
>>>something like thirty times the rate of the Cadillac. The speed of the
>>>truck and the distance between the driver and trailer tandems puts a
>>>ripple on the road at a certain pitch or length. If trucks paid their
>>>proportional share of road wear and services trucking would be much
>>>more expensive. Efficient regional railroads, not the highways, are
>>>the cheapest and most efficient way to move heavy freight.
>
>
>

 

If you don't contract out construction of your highways to your
governors illiterate brother in law, the trucks don't do near as much
damage.

Vito proclaimed:

> Trucks do pay higher taxes but not enough to compensate for the damage they do
> to roads. Blame Nixon. The interstates were designed to support a given weight
> and trucks were limited to 60,000# IIRC so as not to exceed that even if
> slightly overloaded. When Nixon ordered 55MPH the industry hollered so he upped
> the limit to 80,000. That flexes the roadbed too much creating breakup and rapid
> wear. You can see the damage as tire-size ridges on asphault interstates -
> asphault simply cannot support the weight.
>
> The solution is not higher taxes but lighter loads and/or more wheels/tires to
> ------ it over a greater area.
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote ...
>
>> Truckers if they don't have the prorated Arizona tag must pay at
>>their boarder seventy five bucks each time they go the hundred miles to
>>Phoenix. And that just one of the many excise taxes I PAID! So don't
>>wrote that ignorant bullsh*t!
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Bret Ludwig wrote:
>>
>>> The other problem is that vehicles wear roads disproportionately as to
>>>weight. A 1974 Cadillac Eldorado doesn't wear roads any more than a
>>>Toyota Tercel, but a tractor trailer at 80,000 lbs wears them at
>>>something like thirty times the rate of the Cadillac. The speed of the
>>>truck and the distance between the driver and trailer tandems puts a
>>>ripple on the road at a certain pitch or length. If trucks paid their
>>>proportional share of road wear and services trucking would be much
>>>more expensive. Efficient regional railroads, not the highways, are
>>>the cheapest and most efficient way to move heavy freight.
>
>
>