Ethanol in Grand Cherokee
02-11-2006, 04:18 AM
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Re: Ethanol in Grand Cherokee
Yes, that wasn't a good link, I should have stuck with the fact
that taxpayers have subsidize up to six times the cost with petroleum
energy to make ethanol:
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NG1VDF6EM1.DTL
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Jason Backshall wrote:
>
> Uh Bill.. .052c = 5.2 cents.
>
> J.
that taxpayers have subsidize up to six times the cost with petroleum
energy to make ethanol:
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NG1VDF6EM1.DTL
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jason Backshall wrote:
>
> Uh Bill.. .052c = 5.2 cents.
>
> J.
02-11-2006, 04:18 AM
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Re: Ethanol in Grand Cherokee
Yes, that wasn't a good link, I should have stuck with the fact
that taxpayers have subsidize up to six times the cost with petroleum
energy to make ethanol:
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NG1VDF6EM1.DTL
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jason Backshall wrote:
>
> Uh Bill.. .052c = 5.2 cents.
>
> J.
that taxpayers have subsidize up to six times the cost with petroleum
energy to make ethanol:
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NG1VDF6EM1.DTL
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jason Backshall wrote:
>
> Uh Bill.. .052c = 5.2 cents.
>
> J.
02-11-2006, 04:18 AM
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Re: Ethanol in Grand Cherokee
Yes, that wasn't a good link, I should have stuck with the fact
that taxpayers have subsidize up to six times the cost with petroleum
energy to make ethanol:
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NG1VDF6EM1.DTL
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jason Backshall wrote:
>
> Uh Bill.. .052c = 5.2 cents.
>
> J.
that taxpayers have subsidize up to six times the cost with petroleum
energy to make ethanol:
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NG1VDF6EM1.DTL
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jason Backshall wrote:
>
> Uh Bill.. .052c = 5.2 cents.
>
> J.
02-11-2006, 06:31 AM
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Re: Ethanol in Grand Cherokee
Bill doesn't let the facts get in the way of a good story.
Jim Smith
"Jason Backshall" <jas@backshall.id.au> wrote in message
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> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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>> For every gallon you use of ethanol you cost us, the taxpayer fifty
>> two cents in subsidies:
>> http://mccain.senate.gov/index.cfm?f...ontent_id=1187
>> Damn Liberal wackos!
>
>
> Uh Bill.. .052c = 5.2 cents.
>
> J.
>
Jim Smith
"Jason Backshall" <jas@backshall.id.au> wrote in message
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> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:43ED6DDA.6C9EA0FE@***.net...
>> For every gallon you use of ethanol you cost us, the taxpayer fifty
>> two cents in subsidies:
>> http://mccain.senate.gov/index.cfm?f...ontent_id=1187
>> Damn Liberal wackos!
>
>
> Uh Bill.. .052c = 5.2 cents.
>
> J.
>
02-11-2006, 06:31 AM
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Re: Ethanol in Grand Cherokee
Bill doesn't let the facts get in the way of a good story.
Jim Smith
"Jason Backshall" <jas@backshall.id.au> wrote in message
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>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:43ED6DDA.6C9EA0FE@***.net...
>> For every gallon you use of ethanol you cost us, the taxpayer fifty
>> two cents in subsidies:
>> http://mccain.senate.gov/index.cfm?f...ontent_id=1187
>> Damn Liberal wackos!
>
>
> Uh Bill.. .052c = 5.2 cents.
>
> J.
>
Jim Smith
"Jason Backshall" <jas@backshall.id.au> wrote in message
news:43ed8694$0$3700$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:43ED6DDA.6C9EA0FE@***.net...
>> For every gallon you use of ethanol you cost us, the taxpayer fifty
>> two cents in subsidies:
>> http://mccain.senate.gov/index.cfm?f...ontent_id=1187
>> Damn Liberal wackos!
>
>
> Uh Bill.. .052c = 5.2 cents.
>
> J.
>
02-11-2006, 06:31 AM
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Re: Ethanol in Grand Cherokee
Bill doesn't let the facts get in the way of a good story.
Jim Smith
"Jason Backshall" <jas@backshall.id.au> wrote in message
news:43ed8694$0$3700$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:43ED6DDA.6C9EA0FE@***.net...
>> For every gallon you use of ethanol you cost us, the taxpayer fifty
>> two cents in subsidies:
>> http://mccain.senate.gov/index.cfm?f...ontent_id=1187
>> Damn Liberal wackos!
>
>
> Uh Bill.. .052c = 5.2 cents.
>
> J.
>
Jim Smith
"Jason Backshall" <jas@backshall.id.au> wrote in message
news:43ed8694$0$3700$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:43ED6DDA.6C9EA0FE@***.net...
>> For every gallon you use of ethanol you cost us, the taxpayer fifty
>> two cents in subsidies:
>> http://mccain.senate.gov/index.cfm?f...ontent_id=1187
>> Damn Liberal wackos!
>
>
> Uh Bill.. .052c = 5.2 cents.
>
> J.
>
02-11-2006, 06:31 AM
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Re: Ethanol in Grand Cherokee
Bill doesn't let the facts get in the way of a good story.
Jim Smith
"Jason Backshall" <jas@backshall.id.au> wrote in message
news:43ed8694$0$3700$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:43ED6DDA.6C9EA0FE@***.net...
>> For every gallon you use of ethanol you cost us, the taxpayer fifty
>> two cents in subsidies:
>> http://mccain.senate.gov/index.cfm?f...ontent_id=1187
>> Damn Liberal wackos!
>
>
> Uh Bill.. .052c = 5.2 cents.
>
> J.
>
Jim Smith
"Jason Backshall" <jas@backshall.id.au> wrote in message
news:43ed8694$0$3700$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:43ED6DDA.6C9EA0FE@***.net...
>> For every gallon you use of ethanol you cost us, the taxpayer fifty
>> two cents in subsidies:
>> http://mccain.senate.gov/index.cfm?f...ontent_id=1187
>> Damn Liberal wackos!
>
>
> Uh Bill.. .052c = 5.2 cents.
>
> J.
>
02-11-2006, 09:17 AM
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Re: Ethanol in Grand Cherokee
You could check your owners manual. Mine states 'not' to use it, but my
Jeeps are old.
One test I use for different fuels is the simple gas mileage and power
test.
If I put ethanol mix at any octane in my 86 CJ7 with my manually tuned
engine, I drop 100 miles distance per tank of gas. So I go from an easy
350 miles on a tank of ESSO 91 octane to being out of gas at 250 miles.
I also lose all top end power. The engine starts to bog big time under
load over 65 mph and it won't idle for ----.
That 'sure' isn't worth the price difference in my case.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Chris Lamb wrote:
>
> Have 2000 GC V-8 and wondering if anyone is running ethanol in theirs.
> Price here in WI is 45 cents a gallon cheaper than 87 Octane.
Jeeps are old.
One test I use for different fuels is the simple gas mileage and power
test.
If I put ethanol mix at any octane in my 86 CJ7 with my manually tuned
engine, I drop 100 miles distance per tank of gas. So I go from an easy
350 miles on a tank of ESSO 91 octane to being out of gas at 250 miles.
I also lose all top end power. The engine starts to bog big time under
load over 65 mph and it won't idle for ----.
That 'sure' isn't worth the price difference in my case.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Chris Lamb wrote:
>
> Have 2000 GC V-8 and wondering if anyone is running ethanol in theirs.
> Price here in WI is 45 cents a gallon cheaper than 87 Octane.
02-11-2006, 09:17 AM
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Re: Ethanol in Grand Cherokee
You could check your owners manual. Mine states 'not' to use it, but my
Jeeps are old.
One test I use for different fuels is the simple gas mileage and power
test.
If I put ethanol mix at any octane in my 86 CJ7 with my manually tuned
engine, I drop 100 miles distance per tank of gas. So I go from an easy
350 miles on a tank of ESSO 91 octane to being out of gas at 250 miles.
I also lose all top end power. The engine starts to bog big time under
load over 65 mph and it won't idle for ----.
That 'sure' isn't worth the price difference in my case.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Chris Lamb wrote:
>
> Have 2000 GC V-8 and wondering if anyone is running ethanol in theirs.
> Price here in WI is 45 cents a gallon cheaper than 87 Octane.
Jeeps are old.
One test I use for different fuels is the simple gas mileage and power
test.
If I put ethanol mix at any octane in my 86 CJ7 with my manually tuned
engine, I drop 100 miles distance per tank of gas. So I go from an easy
350 miles on a tank of ESSO 91 octane to being out of gas at 250 miles.
I also lose all top end power. The engine starts to bog big time under
load over 65 mph and it won't idle for ----.
That 'sure' isn't worth the price difference in my case.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Chris Lamb wrote:
>
> Have 2000 GC V-8 and wondering if anyone is running ethanol in theirs.
> Price here in WI is 45 cents a gallon cheaper than 87 Octane.
02-11-2006, 09:17 AM
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Re: Ethanol in Grand Cherokee
You could check your owners manual. Mine states 'not' to use it, but my
Jeeps are old.
One test I use for different fuels is the simple gas mileage and power
test.
If I put ethanol mix at any octane in my 86 CJ7 with my manually tuned
engine, I drop 100 miles distance per tank of gas. So I go from an easy
350 miles on a tank of ESSO 91 octane to being out of gas at 250 miles.
I also lose all top end power. The engine starts to bog big time under
load over 65 mph and it won't idle for ----.
That 'sure' isn't worth the price difference in my case.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Chris Lamb wrote:
>
> Have 2000 GC V-8 and wondering if anyone is running ethanol in theirs.
> Price here in WI is 45 cents a gallon cheaper than 87 Octane.
Jeeps are old.
One test I use for different fuels is the simple gas mileage and power
test.
If I put ethanol mix at any octane in my 86 CJ7 with my manually tuned
engine, I drop 100 miles distance per tank of gas. So I go from an easy
350 miles on a tank of ESSO 91 octane to being out of gas at 250 miles.
I also lose all top end power. The engine starts to bog big time under
load over 65 mph and it won't idle for ----.
That 'sure' isn't worth the price difference in my case.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Chris Lamb wrote:
>
> Have 2000 GC V-8 and wondering if anyone is running ethanol in theirs.
> Price here in WI is 45 cents a gallon cheaper than 87 Octane.