Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1
 

SnoMan wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:22:01 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
> <----------@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> And who are you, you haven't shown me sh*t! Other than a f*cked up head
>> conversion I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy:
>
>
> Only someone that does not understand Jeeps and how to inprove them
> would make such a statement. Say what you want but
> usually it shows how little you realy understand the bigger picture
> here.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com

The only picture here bud is how much of a brain dead ------- you are
with your usually useless blowhard rants and advice that will Kill
people, let alone the just plain 'wrong' advice you normally give out.

Why do you even post to Usenet? Do you get your rocks off on the abuse
you get for your total -------- on 'all' the groups you bother?

Do you think you have even one shred of credibility?

I know you always forget that Google.com saves 'all' your -------- posts
so anyone punching in your name can easily see what a total freaking
idiot you are.

Mike

Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1
 

On Jun 22, 10:31 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <c...@verizon.net> wrote:
> The cheapest way is to do it yourself, the easiest way is to have somebody
> else do it for you.

That depends on how much you tear up when you do it yourself. :)

Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1
 

On Jun 22, 10:31 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <c...@verizon.net> wrote:
> The cheapest way is to do it yourself, the easiest way is to have somebody
> else do it for you.

That depends on how much you tear up when you do it yourself. :)

Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1
 

On Jun 22, 10:31 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <c...@verizon.net> wrote:
> The cheapest way is to do it yourself, the easiest way is to have somebody
> else do it for you.

That depends on how much you tear up when you do it yourself. :)

Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1
 

On Jun 22, 10:31 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <c...@verizon.net> wrote:
> The cheapest way is to do it yourself, the easiest way is to have somebody
> else do it for you.

That depends on how much you tear up when you do it yourself. :)

Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1
 

On Jun 22, 7:23 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> "FDC" <some...@spammymonkey.com> wrote in message
>
> news:7NXei.4$I5.553@news.more.net...
>
>

Sadly, the metal tag on the rear dif cover clearly has 3 07 stamped
on it :( I sold the wheels / tires shortly after I got the jeep, all
I really remember is "Grizzly wheel and tire package" and dealer
saying something about it being a bigger tire.

Farrell Christeson

>
> > Maybe I can convince her to let me put some 30" tires on it. If I remember
> > right, that is what it had from the factory and the power was great until
> > I put the 33"s on it.
>
> If it had 30" tires on it from the factory it should have 3.73 gears in it.
> The 30" tire/wheel group came with 3.73 gears, in which case there would be
> no problems going to 4.10s. I have 4.56's in my '00, came from factory with
> 3.73's, and I didn;t have to change out the carrier, although I did on the
> front when I had a True Trac installed.
>
> Have you verified your final-drive ratio?
>
> Matt

Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1
 

On Jun 22, 7:23 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> "FDC" <some...@spammymonkey.com> wrote in message
>
> news:7NXei.4$I5.553@news.more.net...
>
>

Sadly, the metal tag on the rear dif cover clearly has 3 07 stamped
on it :( I sold the wheels / tires shortly after I got the jeep, all
I really remember is "Grizzly wheel and tire package" and dealer
saying something about it being a bigger tire.

Farrell Christeson

>
> > Maybe I can convince her to let me put some 30" tires on it. If I remember
> > right, that is what it had from the factory and the power was great until
> > I put the 33"s on it.
>
> If it had 30" tires on it from the factory it should have 3.73 gears in it.
> The 30" tire/wheel group came with 3.73 gears, in which case there would be
> no problems going to 4.10s. I have 4.56's in my '00, came from factory with
> 3.73's, and I didn;t have to change out the carrier, although I did on the
> front when I had a True Trac installed.
>
> Have you verified your final-drive ratio?
>
> Matt

Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1
 

On Jun 22, 7:23 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> "FDC" <some...@spammymonkey.com> wrote in message
>
> news:7NXei.4$I5.553@news.more.net...
>
>

Sadly, the metal tag on the rear dif cover clearly has 3 07 stamped
on it :( I sold the wheels / tires shortly after I got the jeep, all
I really remember is "Grizzly wheel and tire package" and dealer
saying something about it being a bigger tire.

Farrell Christeson

>
> > Maybe I can convince her to let me put some 30" tires on it. If I remember
> > right, that is what it had from the factory and the power was great until
> > I put the 33"s on it.
>
> If it had 30" tires on it from the factory it should have 3.73 gears in it.
> The 30" tire/wheel group came with 3.73 gears, in which case there would be
> no problems going to 4.10s. I have 4.56's in my '00, came from factory with
> 3.73's, and I didn;t have to change out the carrier, although I did on the
> front when I had a True Trac installed.
>
> Have you verified your final-drive ratio?
>
> Matt

Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1
 

On Jun 22, 7:23 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> "FDC" <some...@spammymonkey.com> wrote in message
>
> news:7NXei.4$I5.553@news.more.net...
>
>

Sadly, the metal tag on the rear dif cover clearly has 3 07 stamped
on it :( I sold the wheels / tires shortly after I got the jeep, all
I really remember is "Grizzly wheel and tire package" and dealer
saying something about it being a bigger tire.

Farrell Christeson

>
> > Maybe I can convince her to let me put some 30" tires on it. If I remember
> > right, that is what it had from the factory and the power was great until
> > I put the 33"s on it.
>
> If it had 30" tires on it from the factory it should have 3.73 gears in it.
> The 30" tire/wheel group came with 3.73 gears, in which case there would be
> no problems going to 4.10s. I have 4.56's in my '00, came from factory with
> 3.73's, and I didn;t have to change out the carrier, although I did on the
> front when I had a True Trac installed.
>
> Have you verified your final-drive ratio?
>
> Matt

Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1
 

Greg,

I don't know enough about differentials or axles or carriers to
really know what my options are but if I understand what I have read
so far, the problem with my rear axle is that the case ( 3rd
member ? ) is physically to small to hold the larger gears ? If going
with 4.11's can be as simple as eliminating the carrier then I'm
interested in almost anything other than perm posi in the rear. The
wheelbase is so short the ass likes to pass the nose already, with
rear posi on wet / slick roads I would have to teach the wife to drive
it backwards every time it rained or snowed.

Does anyone know if this is an option on the Dana 30/35 ? Would using
a locker of some type to eleimate the carrier allow me to put put
4.11's in my 3rd member ? Is the carrier the problem or are the gears
actually to big for the 3rd member ?

I think what I really need to do is keep my eyes open for a wrecked
Rubi or TJ with the Dana 44's and just buy the whole rig.
I've only found the 3.73 assemblies at the salvage yards so far and
they want $900+ for them... crazy.

Farrell Christeson

On Jun 22, 9:01 pm, "Greg" <gregl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> When I changed gears in my CJ I had to go to a new carrier, think it cost
> me 90 buck Canadain, new, not even worth ebaying now that I've gone to a
> detroit, ( replaces carrier ) here's a site that list CJ or YJ carier at
> $49.00http://www.rocky-road.com/jeepdrive.htmlIf you can find a machanic
> that works after hours, a gear change is not that much, for example although
> not a gear change, same has to be done to install a full locker, my
> daughter's 9" was $50.00 to install a detroit, she took third member to him,
> her front lock right was $100.00, the detroit in my AMC 20 was $175.00
> because I needed new bearings, my Ox locker in front was $200.00, (
> different machanic that time )