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SnoMan 06-23-2007 09:37 AM

Re: Re: Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1
 
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:22:01 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> And who are you, you haven't shown me sh*t! Other than a f*cked up head
>conversion I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy:



Only someone that does not understand Jeeps and how to inprove them
would make such a statement. Actually the 8.8 is a fairly popular swap
because it is a LOT stronger than a D35 and basically a bolt in and
lug pattern is the same too. A axle has 3 design limitations. The
first obvous one is the axle shafts, next is the housing strength and
last is the pinion shaft. There are those out there like yourself and
Mike that do not even remotely consider the last one and operate on
the theory than a taller gear is stronger becuse it has more teeth
conatct area but tooth yeild is really a issue but high torque input
to achieve desired ground tractive effort with tall gears is a problem
and can cause pinion shaft to yeild sometimes before axle if lockers
are not in use. A deeper gear reduces input torque strain on pinion
shaft and on driveshaft, Tcase, tranny and motor mounts that have to
absorb counter torque from high drive shaft loads (many NEVER remotely
consider this even though is does exist). Say what you want but
usually it shows how little you realy understand the bigger picture
here.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 06-23-2007 09:37 AM

Re: Re: Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1
 
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:22:01 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> And who are you, you haven't shown me sh*t! Other than a f*cked up head
>conversion I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy:



Only someone that does not understand Jeeps and how to inprove them
would make such a statement. Actually the 8.8 is a fairly popular swap
because it is a LOT stronger than a D35 and basically a bolt in and
lug pattern is the same too. A axle has 3 design limitations. The
first obvous one is the axle shafts, next is the housing strength and
last is the pinion shaft. There are those out there like yourself and
Mike that do not even remotely consider the last one and operate on
the theory than a taller gear is stronger becuse it has more teeth
conatct area but tooth yeild is really a issue but high torque input
to achieve desired ground tractive effort with tall gears is a problem
and can cause pinion shaft to yeild sometimes before axle if lockers
are not in use. A deeper gear reduces input torque strain on pinion
shaft and on driveshaft, Tcase, tranny and motor mounts that have to
absorb counter torque from high drive shaft loads (many NEVER remotely
consider this even though is does exist). Say what you want but
usually it shows how little you realy understand the bigger picture
here.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 06-23-2007 09:37 AM

Re: Re: Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1
 
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:22:01 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> And who are you, you haven't shown me sh*t! Other than a f*cked up head
>conversion I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy:



Only someone that does not understand Jeeps and how to inprove them
would make such a statement. Actually the 8.8 is a fairly popular swap
because it is a LOT stronger than a D35 and basically a bolt in and
lug pattern is the same too. A axle has 3 design limitations. The
first obvous one is the axle shafts, next is the housing strength and
last is the pinion shaft. There are those out there like yourself and
Mike that do not even remotely consider the last one and operate on
the theory than a taller gear is stronger becuse it has more teeth
conatct area but tooth yeild is really a issue but high torque input
to achieve desired ground tractive effort with tall gears is a problem
and can cause pinion shaft to yeild sometimes before axle if lockers
are not in use. A deeper gear reduces input torque strain on pinion
shaft and on driveshaft, Tcase, tranny and motor mounts that have to
absorb counter torque from high drive shaft loads (many NEVER remotely
consider this even though is does exist). Say what you want but
usually it shows how little you realy understand the bigger picture
here.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Mike Romain 06-23-2007 10:01 AM

Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1 now Snoman the Stalker!
 
SnoMan wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:53:52 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> Yup, you need the whole shebang, not a cheap thing to do.
>>
>> I am lucky and can get by with my 3.31's and 33's, but if I use 5th, it
>> drinks gas. I say with a '4 speed' and forget about OD or 5th and get
>> 23 MPG highway.

>
> Words of wisdom from idiot. He gets by because one, he does not know
> how to change a differ cover gasket let alone a gear set and two he
> has very low standards and a really big ego.


Bud, you have proven beyond any reasonable doubt that you are a Liar and
a total idiot stalker that gives out deadly and stupid advice.

Like the poor guy you are now trying to sucker into snapping off his
intake manifold bolts over on rec.autos.jeep by insisting his I6 has
independent intake bolts that need V8 torque on them eh.

As far as my diff cover goes, come on over and we can talk about how a
'professional' like you claim you are screwed it up by not waiting the
cure time, while I beat on you with my cane...

Mike

Mike Romain 06-23-2007 10:01 AM

Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1 now Snoman the Stalker!
 
SnoMan wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:53:52 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> Yup, you need the whole shebang, not a cheap thing to do.
>>
>> I am lucky and can get by with my 3.31's and 33's, but if I use 5th, it
>> drinks gas. I say with a '4 speed' and forget about OD or 5th and get
>> 23 MPG highway.

>
> Words of wisdom from idiot. He gets by because one, he does not know
> how to change a differ cover gasket let alone a gear set and two he
> has very low standards and a really big ego.


Bud, you have proven beyond any reasonable doubt that you are a Liar and
a total idiot stalker that gives out deadly and stupid advice.

Like the poor guy you are now trying to sucker into snapping off his
intake manifold bolts over on rec.autos.jeep by insisting his I6 has
independent intake bolts that need V8 torque on them eh.

As far as my diff cover goes, come on over and we can talk about how a
'professional' like you claim you are screwed it up by not waiting the
cure time, while I beat on you with my cane...

Mike

Mike Romain 06-23-2007 10:01 AM

Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1 now Snoman the Stalker!
 
SnoMan wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:53:52 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> Yup, you need the whole shebang, not a cheap thing to do.
>>
>> I am lucky and can get by with my 3.31's and 33's, but if I use 5th, it
>> drinks gas. I say with a '4 speed' and forget about OD or 5th and get
>> 23 MPG highway.

>
> Words of wisdom from idiot. He gets by because one, he does not know
> how to change a differ cover gasket let alone a gear set and two he
> has very low standards and a really big ego.


Bud, you have proven beyond any reasonable doubt that you are a Liar and
a total idiot stalker that gives out deadly and stupid advice.

Like the poor guy you are now trying to sucker into snapping off his
intake manifold bolts over on rec.autos.jeep by insisting his I6 has
independent intake bolts that need V8 torque on them eh.

As far as my diff cover goes, come on over and we can talk about how a
'professional' like you claim you are screwed it up by not waiting the
cure time, while I beat on you with my cane...

Mike

Mike Romain 06-23-2007 10:01 AM

Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1 now Snoman the Stalker!
 
SnoMan wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:53:52 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> Yup, you need the whole shebang, not a cheap thing to do.
>>
>> I am lucky and can get by with my 3.31's and 33's, but if I use 5th, it
>> drinks gas. I say with a '4 speed' and forget about OD or 5th and get
>> 23 MPG highway.

>
> Words of wisdom from idiot. He gets by because one, he does not know
> how to change a differ cover gasket let alone a gear set and two he
> has very low standards and a really big ego.


Bud, you have proven beyond any reasonable doubt that you are a Liar and
a total idiot stalker that gives out deadly and stupid advice.

Like the poor guy you are now trying to sucker into snapping off his
intake manifold bolts over on rec.autos.jeep by insisting his I6 has
independent intake bolts that need V8 torque on them eh.

As far as my diff cover goes, come on over and we can talk about how a
'professional' like you claim you are screwed it up by not waiting the
cure time, while I beat on you with my cane...

Mike

Mike Romain 06-23-2007 10:55 AM

Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1
 
SnoMan wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:22:01 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
> <----------@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> And who are you, you haven't shown me sh*t! Other than a f*cked up head
>> conversion I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy:

>
>
> Only someone that does not understand Jeeps and how to inprove them
> would make such a statement. Say what you want but
> usually it shows how little you realy understand the bigger picture
> here.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com


The only picture here bud is how much of a brain dead ------- you are
with your usually useless blowhard rants and advice that will Kill
people, let alone the just plain 'wrong' advice you normally give out.

Why do you even post to Usenet? Do you get your rocks off on the abuse
you get for your total -------- on 'all' the groups you bother?

Do you think you have even one shred of credibility?

I know you always forget that Google.com saves 'all' your -------- posts
so anyone punching in your name can easily see what a total freaking
idiot you are.

Mike


Mike Romain 06-23-2007 10:55 AM

Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1
 
SnoMan wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:22:01 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
> <----------@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> And who are you, you haven't shown me sh*t! Other than a f*cked up head
>> conversion I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy:

>
>
> Only someone that does not understand Jeeps and how to inprove them
> would make such a statement. Say what you want but
> usually it shows how little you realy understand the bigger picture
> here.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com


The only picture here bud is how much of a brain dead ------- you are
with your usually useless blowhard rants and advice that will Kill
people, let alone the just plain 'wrong' advice you normally give out.

Why do you even post to Usenet? Do you get your rocks off on the abuse
you get for your total -------- on 'all' the groups you bother?

Do you think you have even one shred of credibility?

I know you always forget that Google.com saves 'all' your -------- posts
so anyone punching in your name can easily see what a total freaking
idiot you are.

Mike


Mike Romain 06-23-2007 10:55 AM

Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1
 
SnoMan wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:22:01 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
> <----------@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> And who are you, you haven't shown me sh*t! Other than a f*cked up head
>> conversion I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy:

>
>
> Only someone that does not understand Jeeps and how to inprove them
> would make such a statement. Say what you want but
> usually it shows how little you realy understand the bigger picture
> here.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com


The only picture here bud is how much of a brain dead ------- you are
with your usually useless blowhard rants and advice that will Kill
people, let alone the just plain 'wrong' advice you normally give out.

Why do you even post to Usenet? Do you get your rocks off on the abuse
you get for your total -------- on 'all' the groups you bother?

Do you think you have even one shred of credibility?

I know you always forget that Google.com saves 'all' your -------- posts
so anyone punching in your name can easily see what a total freaking
idiot you are.

Mike



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