Re: Coolant suprise
 

Hi Bill,
I wonder if they would rebuild the engine after the head gasket
were eating out by the acid that is made by temperature changes. Or even
the core plug between the block and flywheel.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

billy ray wrote:
>
> Earle,
>
> Peak offers a "Universal" coolant that is also "Lifetime"
>
> According to their own website and MSDS it contains OAT inhibitors. OAT
> inhibitors are specifically prohibited by DC, Ford, and Mercedes in the
> Factory Service ad Owner's Manuals.
> MSDS: http://www.peakantifreeze.com/msds/m...l_lifetime.pdf
>
> That would seem to make the universe a smaller place than you would first
> think.
>
> On this products main web page they claim to meet ASTM D-3306 and ASTM
> D-4340
>
> What are these test you ask...
> ASTM D-4340 measures Aluminum Corrosion - Heat Rejection at 25%
> concentration
> ASTM D-3306 measures pH, Foaming Properties at 88C, Initial Crystallization
> <-37C, & Staining Characteristics.
>
> They 'Recommend" , but do not apparently meet, 14 other application
> standards including 6 from DC, Ford, & Mercedes.
>
> This is of interest because, as mentioned above, DC, Ford, & Mercedes
> specifically prohibit the use of OAT inhibitors in their cooling systems.
>
> What it come down to is the only brands which I am sure meet the old DC
> specs is Zerex Green in the white Jug, Zerex G-05 in the gold jug meets the
> new spec. I got my Zerex at PepBoys, it is also listed in the NAPA web
> site.
>
> I was told there was a manufacturer's rebate offer running but have not see
> the forms myself.

Re: Coolant suprise
 

Hi Bill,
I wonder if they would rebuild the engine after the head gasket
were eating out by the acid that is made by temperature changes. Or even
the core plug between the block and flywheel.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

billy ray wrote:
>
> Earle,
>
> Peak offers a "Universal" coolant that is also "Lifetime"
>
> According to their own website and MSDS it contains OAT inhibitors. OAT
> inhibitors are specifically prohibited by DC, Ford, and Mercedes in the
> Factory Service ad Owner's Manuals.
> MSDS: http://www.peakantifreeze.com/msds/m...l_lifetime.pdf
>
> That would seem to make the universe a smaller place than you would first
> think.
>
> On this products main web page they claim to meet ASTM D-3306 and ASTM
> D-4340
>
> What are these test you ask...
> ASTM D-4340 measures Aluminum Corrosion - Heat Rejection at 25%
> concentration
> ASTM D-3306 measures pH, Foaming Properties at 88C, Initial Crystallization
> <-37C, & Staining Characteristics.
>
> They 'Recommend" , but do not apparently meet, 14 other application
> standards including 6 from DC, Ford, & Mercedes.
>
> This is of interest because, as mentioned above, DC, Ford, & Mercedes
> specifically prohibit the use of OAT inhibitors in their cooling systems.
>
> What it come down to is the only brands which I am sure meet the old DC
> specs is Zerex Green in the white Jug, Zerex G-05 in the gold jug meets the
> new spec. I got my Zerex at PepBoys, it is also listed in the NAPA web
> site.
>
> I was told there was a manufacturer's rebate offer running but have not see
> the forms myself.

Re: Coolant suprise
 

Hi Bill,
I wonder if they would rebuild the engine after the head gasket
were eating out by the acid that is made by temperature changes. Or even
the core plug between the block and flywheel.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

billy ray wrote:
>
> Earle,
>
> Peak offers a "Universal" coolant that is also "Lifetime"
>
> According to their own website and MSDS it contains OAT inhibitors. OAT
> inhibitors are specifically prohibited by DC, Ford, and Mercedes in the
> Factory Service ad Owner's Manuals.
> MSDS: http://www.peakantifreeze.com/msds/m...l_lifetime.pdf
>
> That would seem to make the universe a smaller place than you would first
> think.
>
> On this products main web page they claim to meet ASTM D-3306 and ASTM
> D-4340
>
> What are these test you ask...
> ASTM D-4340 measures Aluminum Corrosion - Heat Rejection at 25%
> concentration
> ASTM D-3306 measures pH, Foaming Properties at 88C, Initial Crystallization
> <-37C, & Staining Characteristics.
>
> They 'Recommend" , but do not apparently meet, 14 other application
> standards including 6 from DC, Ford, & Mercedes.
>
> This is of interest because, as mentioned above, DC, Ford, & Mercedes
> specifically prohibit the use of OAT inhibitors in their cooling systems.
>
> What it come down to is the only brands which I am sure meet the old DC
> specs is Zerex Green in the white Jug, Zerex G-05 in the gold jug meets the
> new spec. I got my Zerex at PepBoys, it is also listed in the NAPA web
> site.
>
> I was told there was a manufacturer's rebate offer running but have not see
> the forms myself.

Re: Coolant suprise
 

Hi Carl,
I would take a picture of the container, so that with all these
Greenies environmentalist new rules you're able to add the correct fluid
should a pump or hose fails between intervals:
http://www.----------.com/temp/prestone.jpg I just make sure I still
have Ethylene Glycol base.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Carl wrote:
>
> Flushed my coolant today. I put the prestone tee in one of the heater hoses
> and completely flushed everything untill clear water came out. Here's what's
> got me baffled... When the guy at Firestone checked it with the tester, it
> was brown. The coolant that came out of the motor was reasonably green.
> Suprise #2: I bought the Zerex G-05 in the Gold jug.. the coolant was
> CLEAR!! Wierd!! Why is it that you have to use the G-05 instead of the
> regular prestone?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Carl

Re: Coolant suprise
 

Hi Carl,
I would take a picture of the container, so that with all these
Greenies environmentalist new rules you're able to add the correct fluid
should a pump or hose fails between intervals:
http://www.----------.com/temp/prestone.jpg I just make sure I still
have Ethylene Glycol base.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Carl wrote:
>
> Flushed my coolant today. I put the prestone tee in one of the heater hoses
> and completely flushed everything untill clear water came out. Here's what's
> got me baffled... When the guy at Firestone checked it with the tester, it
> was brown. The coolant that came out of the motor was reasonably green.
> Suprise #2: I bought the Zerex G-05 in the Gold jug.. the coolant was
> CLEAR!! Wierd!! Why is it that you have to use the G-05 instead of the
> regular prestone?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Carl

Re: Coolant suprise
 

Hi Carl,
I would take a picture of the container, so that with all these
Greenies environmentalist new rules you're able to add the correct fluid
should a pump or hose fails between intervals:
http://www.----------.com/temp/prestone.jpg I just make sure I still
have Ethylene Glycol base.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Carl wrote:
>
> Flushed my coolant today. I put the prestone tee in one of the heater hoses
> and completely flushed everything untill clear water came out. Here's what's
> got me baffled... When the guy at Firestone checked it with the tester, it
> was brown. The coolant that came out of the motor was reasonably green.
> Suprise #2: I bought the Zerex G-05 in the Gold jug.. the coolant was
> CLEAR!! Wierd!! Why is it that you have to use the G-05 instead of the
> regular prestone?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Carl

Re: Coolant suprise
 

They would probably refund your money you spent on the coolant.

Actually you would have to sue them and that would cost more than replacing
the motor and cooling system.

I've got a picture somewhere showing what


"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4574DA3F.334A2EF2@cox.net...
> Hi Bill,
> I wonder if they would rebuild the engine after the head gasket
> were eating out by the acid that is made by temperature changes. Or even
> the core plug between the block and flywheel.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> billy ray wrote:
>>
>> Earle,
>>
>> Peak offers a "Universal" coolant that is also "Lifetime"
>>
>> According to their own website and MSDS it contains OAT inhibitors. OAT
>> inhibitors are specifically prohibited by DC, Ford, and Mercedes in the
>> Factory Service ad Owner's Manuals.
>> MSDS: http://www.peakantifreeze.com/msds/m...l_lifetime.pdf
>>
>> That would seem to make the universe a smaller place than you would first
>> think.
>>
>> On this products main web page they claim to meet ASTM D-3306 and ASTM
>> D-4340
>>
>> What are these test you ask...
>> ASTM D-4340 measures Aluminum Corrosion - Heat Rejection at 25%
>> concentration
>> ASTM D-3306 measures pH, Foaming Properties at 88C, Initial
>> Crystallization
>> <-37C, & Staining Characteristics.
>>
>> They 'Recommend" , but do not apparently meet, 14 other application
>> standards including 6 from DC, Ford, & Mercedes.
>>
>> This is of interest because, as mentioned above, DC, Ford, & Mercedes
>> specifically prohibit the use of OAT inhibitors in their cooling systems.
>>
>> What it come down to is the only brands which I am sure meet the old DC
>> specs is Zerex Green in the white Jug, Zerex G-05 in the gold jug meets
>> the
>> new spec. I got my Zerex at PepBoys, it is also listed in the NAPA web
>> site.
>>
>> I was told there was a manufacturer's rebate offer running but have not
>> see
>> the forms myself.

Re: Coolant suprise
 

They would probably refund your money you spent on the coolant.

Actually you would have to sue them and that would cost more than replacing
the motor and cooling system.

I've got a picture somewhere showing what


"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4574DA3F.334A2EF2@cox.net...
> Hi Bill,
> I wonder if they would rebuild the engine after the head gasket
> were eating out by the acid that is made by temperature changes. Or even
> the core plug between the block and flywheel.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> billy ray wrote:
>>
>> Earle,
>>
>> Peak offers a "Universal" coolant that is also "Lifetime"
>>
>> According to their own website and MSDS it contains OAT inhibitors. OAT
>> inhibitors are specifically prohibited by DC, Ford, and Mercedes in the
>> Factory Service ad Owner's Manuals.
>> MSDS: http://www.peakantifreeze.com/msds/m...l_lifetime.pdf
>>
>> That would seem to make the universe a smaller place than you would first
>> think.
>>
>> On this products main web page they claim to meet ASTM D-3306 and ASTM
>> D-4340
>>
>> What are these test you ask...
>> ASTM D-4340 measures Aluminum Corrosion - Heat Rejection at 25%
>> concentration
>> ASTM D-3306 measures pH, Foaming Properties at 88C, Initial
>> Crystallization
>> <-37C, & Staining Characteristics.
>>
>> They 'Recommend" , but do not apparently meet, 14 other application
>> standards including 6 from DC, Ford, & Mercedes.
>>
>> This is of interest because, as mentioned above, DC, Ford, & Mercedes
>> specifically prohibit the use of OAT inhibitors in their cooling systems.
>>
>> What it come down to is the only brands which I am sure meet the old DC
>> specs is Zerex Green in the white Jug, Zerex G-05 in the gold jug meets
>> the
>> new spec. I got my Zerex at PepBoys, it is also listed in the NAPA web
>> site.
>>
>> I was told there was a manufacturer's rebate offer running but have not
>> see
>> the forms myself.

Re: Coolant suprise
 

They would probably refund your money you spent on the coolant.

Actually you would have to sue them and that would cost more than replacing
the motor and cooling system.

I've got a picture somewhere showing what


"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4574DA3F.334A2EF2@cox.net...
> Hi Bill,
> I wonder if they would rebuild the engine after the head gasket
> were eating out by the acid that is made by temperature changes. Or even
> the core plug between the block and flywheel.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> billy ray wrote:
>>
>> Earle,
>>
>> Peak offers a "Universal" coolant that is also "Lifetime"
>>
>> According to their own website and MSDS it contains OAT inhibitors. OAT
>> inhibitors are specifically prohibited by DC, Ford, and Mercedes in the
>> Factory Service ad Owner's Manuals.
>> MSDS: http://www.peakantifreeze.com/msds/m...l_lifetime.pdf
>>
>> That would seem to make the universe a smaller place than you would first
>> think.
>>
>> On this products main web page they claim to meet ASTM D-3306 and ASTM
>> D-4340
>>
>> What are these test you ask...
>> ASTM D-4340 measures Aluminum Corrosion - Heat Rejection at 25%
>> concentration
>> ASTM D-3306 measures pH, Foaming Properties at 88C, Initial
>> Crystallization
>> <-37C, & Staining Characteristics.
>>
>> They 'Recommend" , but do not apparently meet, 14 other application
>> standards including 6 from DC, Ford, & Mercedes.
>>
>> This is of interest because, as mentioned above, DC, Ford, & Mercedes
>> specifically prohibit the use of OAT inhibitors in their cooling systems.
>>
>> What it come down to is the only brands which I am sure meet the old DC
>> specs is Zerex Green in the white Jug, Zerex G-05 in the gold jug meets
>> the
>> new spec. I got my Zerex at PepBoys, it is also listed in the NAPA web
>> site.
>>
>> I was told there was a manufacturer's rebate offer running but have not
>> see
>> the forms myself.

Re: Coolant suprise
 

They would probably refund your money you spent on the coolant.

Actually you would have to sue them and that would cost more than replacing
the motor and cooling system.

I've got a picture somewhere showing the remains of a silicone seal from a
Ford V-8 that was dissolved by Prestone... If I find it I'll forward it..




"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4574DA3F.334A2EF2@cox.net...
> Hi Bill,
> I wonder if they would rebuild the engine after the head gasket
> were eating out by the acid that is made by temperature changes. Or even
> the core plug between the block and flywheel.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> billy ray wrote:
>>
>> Earle,
>>
>> Peak offers a "Universal" coolant that is also "Lifetime"
>>
>> According to their own website and MSDS it contains OAT inhibitors. OAT
>> inhibitors are specifically prohibited by DC, Ford, and Mercedes in the
>> Factory Service ad Owner's Manuals.
>> MSDS: http://www.peakantifreeze.com/msds/m...l_lifetime.pdf
>>
>> That would seem to make the universe a smaller place than you would first
>> think.
>>
>> On this products main web page they claim to meet ASTM D-3306 and ASTM
>> D-4340
>>
>> What are these test you ask...
>> ASTM D-4340 measures Aluminum Corrosion - Heat Rejection at 25%
>> concentration
>> ASTM D-3306 measures pH, Foaming Properties at 88C, Initial
>> Crystallization
>> <-37C, & Staining Characteristics.
>>
>> They 'Recommend" , but do not apparently meet, 14 other application
>> standards including 6 from DC, Ford, & Mercedes.
>>
>> This is of interest because, as mentioned above, DC, Ford, & Mercedes
>> specifically prohibit the use of OAT inhibitors in their cooling systems.
>>
>> What it come down to is the only brands which I am sure meet the old DC
>> specs is Zerex Green in the white Jug, Zerex G-05 in the gold jug meets
>> the
>> new spec. I got my Zerex at PepBoys, it is also listed in the NAPA web
>> site.
>>
>> I was told there was a manufacturer's rebate offer running but have not
>> see
>> the forms myself.