Re: Coolant suprise
 

I said "no name" because the name wasn't recognizible. It could easily be
made by one of the name brand manufacturers. I'll bet it's the cheapest
formulation though, and which one is that? There is a lot of information on
the back, including the major ingredients. Next time I go I'll see if I can
figure it out.

Thanks.

Earle

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:b5b03$457451e4$422afc51$13637@FUSE.NET...
> It is hard to say. Industry publications say that the 'automotive'
> Prestones are all OAT which is what DexCool uses. The Peak marketed
> specifically for DC, Ford and Mercedes is OAT according to the Peak
website.
>
> Most brands either claim OAT or refuse to reveal what anti corrosive
package
> they use.
>
> If you want the old fashioned "Green' coolant it is/was using IAT
> anti-corrosives. The only company I know for sure still makes it is Zerex
> in the white jug.
>
> The new stuff is G-05 (HOAT or Glysantin) spec. I wouldn't use anything
> that doesn't say it contains one or more of these terms in big letters on
> the bottle. I would avoid products that don't list the package used and
> only say things like 'recommended for'. If it meets the G-05 standard
it
> will say so clearly.
>
> Wal-Mart used to post MSDS sheets online somewhere, it may well tell you
who
> the original manufacturer is and the chemical composition (other than the
> ethylene glycol base)
>
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> news:45745947$0$3480$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> >I wonder what is in the WalMart no-name concentrate? It appears to be
pale
> > yellow too. They also sell the Prestone 50/50 mix, for the same price
as
> > the no-name concentrate.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:e0620$4573be4d$422afc51$9785@FUSE.NET...
> >> Zerex G-05 in the aftermarket is pale yellow.
> >> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...18433873&idx=5
> >>
> >> In other applications it is:
> >> (http://www.valvoline.com/pages/produ...asp?product=10)
> >> What vehicles use Zerex G-05 in the factory fill and what is the dye
> > color?
> >> 1984 Mercedes and beyond (light yellow)
> >> 1990 Deere and Company vehicles and beyond (green)
> >> 2001 Chrysler, Dodge, and Jeep and beyond (orange)
> >> 2002 Ford, Lincoln and Mercury trucks and SUVS and beyond (yellow)
> >> 2003 Ford, Lincoln, and Mercury automobiles and beyond (yellow)
> >>
> >> You are certainly free to use Prestone, but this is what DC warns you
> >> will
> >> happen:
> >> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2102424208
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> >> news:-NOdnQz-NLK3Ke7YnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> > Flushed my coolant today. I put the prestone tee in one of the heater
> >> > hoses and completely flushed everything untill clear water came out.
> >> > Here's what's got me baffled... When the guy at Firestone checked it
> > with
> >> > the tester, it was brown. The coolant that came out of the motor was
> >> > reasonably green. Suprise #2: I bought the Zerex G-05 in the Gold
jug..
> >> > the coolant was CLEAR!! Wierd!! Why is it that you have to use the
G-05
> >> > instead of the regular prestone?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> >
> >> > Carl
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Coolant suprise
 

I said "no name" because the name wasn't recognizible. It could easily be
made by one of the name brand manufacturers. I'll bet it's the cheapest
formulation though, and which one is that? There is a lot of information on
the back, including the major ingredients. Next time I go I'll see if I can
figure it out.

Thanks.

Earle

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:b5b03$457451e4$422afc51$13637@FUSE.NET...
> It is hard to say. Industry publications say that the 'automotive'
> Prestones are all OAT which is what DexCool uses. The Peak marketed
> specifically for DC, Ford and Mercedes is OAT according to the Peak
website.
>
> Most brands either claim OAT or refuse to reveal what anti corrosive
package
> they use.
>
> If you want the old fashioned "Green' coolant it is/was using IAT
> anti-corrosives. The only company I know for sure still makes it is Zerex
> in the white jug.
>
> The new stuff is G-05 (HOAT or Glysantin) spec. I wouldn't use anything
> that doesn't say it contains one or more of these terms in big letters on
> the bottle. I would avoid products that don't list the package used and
> only say things like 'recommended for'. If it meets the G-05 standard
it
> will say so clearly.
>
> Wal-Mart used to post MSDS sheets online somewhere, it may well tell you
who
> the original manufacturer is and the chemical composition (other than the
> ethylene glycol base)
>
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> news:45745947$0$3480$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> >I wonder what is in the WalMart no-name concentrate? It appears to be
pale
> > yellow too. They also sell the Prestone 50/50 mix, for the same price
as
> > the no-name concentrate.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:e0620$4573be4d$422afc51$9785@FUSE.NET...
> >> Zerex G-05 in the aftermarket is pale yellow.
> >> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...18433873&idx=5
> >>
> >> In other applications it is:
> >> (http://www.valvoline.com/pages/produ...asp?product=10)
> >> What vehicles use Zerex G-05 in the factory fill and what is the dye
> > color?
> >> 1984 Mercedes and beyond (light yellow)
> >> 1990 Deere and Company vehicles and beyond (green)
> >> 2001 Chrysler, Dodge, and Jeep and beyond (orange)
> >> 2002 Ford, Lincoln and Mercury trucks and SUVS and beyond (yellow)
> >> 2003 Ford, Lincoln, and Mercury automobiles and beyond (yellow)
> >>
> >> You are certainly free to use Prestone, but this is what DC warns you
> >> will
> >> happen:
> >> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2102424208
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> >> news:-NOdnQz-NLK3Ke7YnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> > Flushed my coolant today. I put the prestone tee in one of the heater
> >> > hoses and completely flushed everything untill clear water came out.
> >> > Here's what's got me baffled... When the guy at Firestone checked it
> > with
> >> > the tester, it was brown. The coolant that came out of the motor was
> >> > reasonably green. Suprise #2: I bought the Zerex G-05 in the Gold
jug..
> >> > the coolant was CLEAR!! Wierd!! Why is it that you have to use the
G-05
> >> > instead of the regular prestone?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> >
> >> > Carl
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Coolant suprise
 

I said "no name" because the name wasn't recognizible. It could easily be
made by one of the name brand manufacturers. I'll bet it's the cheapest
formulation though, and which one is that? There is a lot of information on
the back, including the major ingredients. Next time I go I'll see if I can
figure it out.

Thanks.

Earle

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:b5b03$457451e4$422afc51$13637@FUSE.NET...
> It is hard to say. Industry publications say that the 'automotive'
> Prestones are all OAT which is what DexCool uses. The Peak marketed
> specifically for DC, Ford and Mercedes is OAT according to the Peak
website.
>
> Most brands either claim OAT or refuse to reveal what anti corrosive
package
> they use.
>
> If you want the old fashioned "Green' coolant it is/was using IAT
> anti-corrosives. The only company I know for sure still makes it is Zerex
> in the white jug.
>
> The new stuff is G-05 (HOAT or Glysantin) spec. I wouldn't use anything
> that doesn't say it contains one or more of these terms in big letters on
> the bottle. I would avoid products that don't list the package used and
> only say things like 'recommended for'. If it meets the G-05 standard
it
> will say so clearly.
>
> Wal-Mart used to post MSDS sheets online somewhere, it may well tell you
who
> the original manufacturer is and the chemical composition (other than the
> ethylene glycol base)
>
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> news:45745947$0$3480$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> >I wonder what is in the WalMart no-name concentrate? It appears to be
pale
> > yellow too. They also sell the Prestone 50/50 mix, for the same price
as
> > the no-name concentrate.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:e0620$4573be4d$422afc51$9785@FUSE.NET...
> >> Zerex G-05 in the aftermarket is pale yellow.
> >> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...18433873&idx=5
> >>
> >> In other applications it is:
> >> (http://www.valvoline.com/pages/produ...asp?product=10)
> >> What vehicles use Zerex G-05 in the factory fill and what is the dye
> > color?
> >> 1984 Mercedes and beyond (light yellow)
> >> 1990 Deere and Company vehicles and beyond (green)
> >> 2001 Chrysler, Dodge, and Jeep and beyond (orange)
> >> 2002 Ford, Lincoln and Mercury trucks and SUVS and beyond (yellow)
> >> 2003 Ford, Lincoln, and Mercury automobiles and beyond (yellow)
> >>
> >> You are certainly free to use Prestone, but this is what DC warns you
> >> will
> >> happen:
> >> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2102424208
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> >> news:-NOdnQz-NLK3Ke7YnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> > Flushed my coolant today. I put the prestone tee in one of the heater
> >> > hoses and completely flushed everything untill clear water came out.
> >> > Here's what's got me baffled... When the guy at Firestone checked it
> > with
> >> > the tester, it was brown. The coolant that came out of the motor was
> >> > reasonably green. Suprise #2: I bought the Zerex G-05 in the Gold
jug..
> >> > the coolant was CLEAR!! Wierd!! Why is it that you have to use the
G-05
> >> > instead of the regular prestone?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> >
> >> > Carl
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Coolant suprise
 

Ya know, It wasn't that long ago that it didn't matter what brand you
bought because it was all IAT coolant....

That basic formula was made by everyone and it had been in use for decades
but was no longer able to keep up with the changes in cooling system
requirements.



"Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
news:45746513$0$3517$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
>I said "no name" because the name wasn't recognizible. It could easily be
> made by one of the name brand manufacturers. I'll bet it's the cheapest
> formulation though, and which one is that? There is a lot of information
> on
> the back, including the major ingredients. Next time I go I'll see if I
> can
> figure it out.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:b5b03$457451e4$422afc51$13637@FUSE.NET...
>> It is hard to say. Industry publications say that the 'automotive'
>> Prestones are all OAT which is what DexCool uses. The Peak marketed
>> specifically for DC, Ford and Mercedes is OAT according to the Peak
> website.
>>
>> Most brands either claim OAT or refuse to reveal what anti corrosive
> package
>> they use.
>>
>> If you want the old fashioned "Green' coolant it is/was using IAT
>> anti-corrosives. The only company I know for sure still makes it is
>> Zerex
>> in the white jug.
>>
>> The new stuff is G-05 (HOAT or Glysantin) spec. I wouldn't use anything
>> that doesn't say it contains one or more of these terms in big letters on
>> the bottle. I would avoid products that don't list the package used and
>> only say things like 'recommended for'. If it meets the G-05 standard
> it
>> will say so clearly.
>>
>> Wal-Mart used to post MSDS sheets online somewhere, it may well tell you
> who
>> the original manufacturer is and the chemical composition (other than the
>> ethylene glycol base)
>>
>>
>>
>> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
>> news:45745947$0$3480$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
>> >I wonder what is in the WalMart no-name concentrate? It appears to be
> pale
>> > yellow too. They also sell the Prestone 50/50 mix, for the same price
> as
>> > the no-name concentrate.
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> > news:e0620$4573be4d$422afc51$9785@FUSE.NET...
>> >> Zerex G-05 in the aftermarket is pale yellow.
>> >> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...18433873&idx=5
>> >>
>> >> In other applications it is:
>> >> (http://www.valvoline.com/pages/produ...asp?product=10)
>> >> What vehicles use Zerex G-05 in the factory fill and what is the dye
>> > color?
>> >> 1984 Mercedes and beyond (light yellow)
>> >> 1990 Deere and Company vehicles and beyond (green)
>> >> 2001 Chrysler, Dodge, and Jeep and beyond (orange)
>> >> 2002 Ford, Lincoln and Mercury trucks and SUVS and beyond (yellow)
>> >> 2003 Ford, Lincoln, and Mercury automobiles and beyond (yellow)
>> >>
>> >> You are certainly free to use Prestone, but this is what DC warns you
>> >> will
>> >> happen:
>> >> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2102424208
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:-NOdnQz-NLK3Ke7YnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> >> > Flushed my coolant today. I put the prestone tee in one of the
>> >> > heater
>> >> > hoses and completely flushed everything untill clear water came out.
>> >> > Here's what's got me baffled... When the guy at Firestone checked it
>> > with
>> >> > the tester, it was brown. The coolant that came out of the motor was
>> >> > reasonably green. Suprise #2: I bought the Zerex G-05 in the Gold
> jug..
>> >> > the coolant was CLEAR!! Wierd!! Why is it that you have to use the
> G-05
>> >> > instead of the regular prestone?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> >
>> >> > Carl
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Coolant suprise
 

Ya know, It wasn't that long ago that it didn't matter what brand you
bought because it was all IAT coolant....

That basic formula was made by everyone and it had been in use for decades
but was no longer able to keep up with the changes in cooling system
requirements.



"Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
news:45746513$0$3517$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
>I said "no name" because the name wasn't recognizible. It could easily be
> made by one of the name brand manufacturers. I'll bet it's the cheapest
> formulation though, and which one is that? There is a lot of information
> on
> the back, including the major ingredients. Next time I go I'll see if I
> can
> figure it out.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:b5b03$457451e4$422afc51$13637@FUSE.NET...
>> It is hard to say. Industry publications say that the 'automotive'
>> Prestones are all OAT which is what DexCool uses. The Peak marketed
>> specifically for DC, Ford and Mercedes is OAT according to the Peak
> website.
>>
>> Most brands either claim OAT or refuse to reveal what anti corrosive
> package
>> they use.
>>
>> If you want the old fashioned "Green' coolant it is/was using IAT
>> anti-corrosives. The only company I know for sure still makes it is
>> Zerex
>> in the white jug.
>>
>> The new stuff is G-05 (HOAT or Glysantin) spec. I wouldn't use anything
>> that doesn't say it contains one or more of these terms in big letters on
>> the bottle. I would avoid products that don't list the package used and
>> only say things like 'recommended for'. If it meets the G-05 standard
> it
>> will say so clearly.
>>
>> Wal-Mart used to post MSDS sheets online somewhere, it may well tell you
> who
>> the original manufacturer is and the chemical composition (other than the
>> ethylene glycol base)
>>
>>
>>
>> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
>> news:45745947$0$3480$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
>> >I wonder what is in the WalMart no-name concentrate? It appears to be
> pale
>> > yellow too. They also sell the Prestone 50/50 mix, for the same price
> as
>> > the no-name concentrate.
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> > news:e0620$4573be4d$422afc51$9785@FUSE.NET...
>> >> Zerex G-05 in the aftermarket is pale yellow.
>> >> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...18433873&idx=5
>> >>
>> >> In other applications it is:
>> >> (http://www.valvoline.com/pages/produ...asp?product=10)
>> >> What vehicles use Zerex G-05 in the factory fill and what is the dye
>> > color?
>> >> 1984 Mercedes and beyond (light yellow)
>> >> 1990 Deere and Company vehicles and beyond (green)
>> >> 2001 Chrysler, Dodge, and Jeep and beyond (orange)
>> >> 2002 Ford, Lincoln and Mercury trucks and SUVS and beyond (yellow)
>> >> 2003 Ford, Lincoln, and Mercury automobiles and beyond (yellow)
>> >>
>> >> You are certainly free to use Prestone, but this is what DC warns you
>> >> will
>> >> happen:
>> >> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2102424208
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:-NOdnQz-NLK3Ke7YnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> >> > Flushed my coolant today. I put the prestone tee in one of the
>> >> > heater
>> >> > hoses and completely flushed everything untill clear water came out.
>> >> > Here's what's got me baffled... When the guy at Firestone checked it
>> > with
>> >> > the tester, it was brown. The coolant that came out of the motor was
>> >> > reasonably green. Suprise #2: I bought the Zerex G-05 in the Gold
> jug..
>> >> > the coolant was CLEAR!! Wierd!! Why is it that you have to use the
> G-05
>> >> > instead of the regular prestone?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> >
>> >> > Carl
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Coolant suprise
 

Ya know, It wasn't that long ago that it didn't matter what brand you
bought because it was all IAT coolant....

That basic formula was made by everyone and it had been in use for decades
but was no longer able to keep up with the changes in cooling system
requirements.



"Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
news:45746513$0$3517$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
>I said "no name" because the name wasn't recognizible. It could easily be
> made by one of the name brand manufacturers. I'll bet it's the cheapest
> formulation though, and which one is that? There is a lot of information
> on
> the back, including the major ingredients. Next time I go I'll see if I
> can
> figure it out.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:b5b03$457451e4$422afc51$13637@FUSE.NET...
>> It is hard to say. Industry publications say that the 'automotive'
>> Prestones are all OAT which is what DexCool uses. The Peak marketed
>> specifically for DC, Ford and Mercedes is OAT according to the Peak
> website.
>>
>> Most brands either claim OAT or refuse to reveal what anti corrosive
> package
>> they use.
>>
>> If you want the old fashioned "Green' coolant it is/was using IAT
>> anti-corrosives. The only company I know for sure still makes it is
>> Zerex
>> in the white jug.
>>
>> The new stuff is G-05 (HOAT or Glysantin) spec. I wouldn't use anything
>> that doesn't say it contains one or more of these terms in big letters on
>> the bottle. I would avoid products that don't list the package used and
>> only say things like 'recommended for'. If it meets the G-05 standard
> it
>> will say so clearly.
>>
>> Wal-Mart used to post MSDS sheets online somewhere, it may well tell you
> who
>> the original manufacturer is and the chemical composition (other than the
>> ethylene glycol base)
>>
>>
>>
>> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
>> news:45745947$0$3480$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
>> >I wonder what is in the WalMart no-name concentrate? It appears to be
> pale
>> > yellow too. They also sell the Prestone 50/50 mix, for the same price
> as
>> > the no-name concentrate.
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> > news:e0620$4573be4d$422afc51$9785@FUSE.NET...
>> >> Zerex G-05 in the aftermarket is pale yellow.
>> >> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...18433873&idx=5
>> >>
>> >> In other applications it is:
>> >> (http://www.valvoline.com/pages/produ...asp?product=10)
>> >> What vehicles use Zerex G-05 in the factory fill and what is the dye
>> > color?
>> >> 1984 Mercedes and beyond (light yellow)
>> >> 1990 Deere and Company vehicles and beyond (green)
>> >> 2001 Chrysler, Dodge, and Jeep and beyond (orange)
>> >> 2002 Ford, Lincoln and Mercury trucks and SUVS and beyond (yellow)
>> >> 2003 Ford, Lincoln, and Mercury automobiles and beyond (yellow)
>> >>
>> >> You are certainly free to use Prestone, but this is what DC warns you
>> >> will
>> >> happen:
>> >> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2102424208
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:-NOdnQz-NLK3Ke7YnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> >> > Flushed my coolant today. I put the prestone tee in one of the
>> >> > heater
>> >> > hoses and completely flushed everything untill clear water came out.
>> >> > Here's what's got me baffled... When the guy at Firestone checked it
>> > with
>> >> > the tester, it was brown. The coolant that came out of the motor was
>> >> > reasonably green. Suprise #2: I bought the Zerex G-05 in the Gold
> jug..
>> >> > the coolant was CLEAR!! Wierd!! Why is it that you have to use the
> G-05
>> >> > instead of the regular prestone?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> >
>> >> > Carl
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Coolant suprise
 

It would be helpful to know if the cheap-ass (pardon my French) stuff is
"safe for all uses" like it says on the can. Next time I get a chance, I
will see what I can figure out from the label. If so, I know what I would
use.

Earle

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:b9458$457485e6$422afc51$24392@FUSE.NET...
> Ya know, It wasn't that long ago that it didn't matter what brand you
> bought because it was all IAT coolant....
>
> That basic formula was made by everyone and it had been in use for
decades
> but was no longer able to keep up with the changes in cooling system
> requirements.
>
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> news:45746513$0$3517$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> >I said "no name" because the name wasn't recognizible. It could easily
be
> > made by one of the name brand manufacturers. I'll bet it's the cheapest
> > formulation though, and which one is that? There is a lot of
information
> > on
> > the back, including the major ingredients. Next time I go I'll see if I
> > can
> > figure it out.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:b5b03$457451e4$422afc51$13637@FUSE.NET...
> >> It is hard to say. Industry publications say that the 'automotive'
> >> Prestones are all OAT which is what DexCool uses. The Peak marketed
> >> specifically for DC, Ford and Mercedes is OAT according to the Peak
> > website.
> >>
> >> Most brands either claim OAT or refuse to reveal what anti corrosive
> > package
> >> they use.
> >>
> >> If you want the old fashioned "Green' coolant it is/was using IAT
> >> anti-corrosives. The only company I know for sure still makes it is
> >> Zerex
> >> in the white jug.
> >>
> >> The new stuff is G-05 (HOAT or Glysantin) spec. I wouldn't use
anything
> >> that doesn't say it contains one or more of these terms in big letters
on
> >> the bottle. I would avoid products that don't list the package used
and
> >> only say things like 'recommended for'. If it meets the G-05
standard
> > it
> >> will say so clearly.
> >>
> >> Wal-Mart used to post MSDS sheets online somewhere, it may well tell
you
> > who
> >> the original manufacturer is and the chemical composition (other than
the
> >> ethylene glycol base)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> >> news:45745947$0$3480$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> >> >I wonder what is in the WalMart no-name concentrate? It appears to be
> > pale
> >> > yellow too. They also sell the Prestone 50/50 mix, for the same
price
> > as
> >> > the no-name concentrate.
> >> >
> >> > Earle
> >> >
> >> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:e0620$4573be4d$422afc51$9785@FUSE.NET...
> >> >> Zerex G-05 in the aftermarket is pale yellow.
> >> >> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...18433873&idx=5
> >> >>
> >> >> In other applications it is:
> >> >>
(http://www.valvoline.com/pages/produ...asp?product=10)
> >> >> What vehicles use Zerex G-05 in the factory fill and what is the dye
> >> > color?
> >> >> 1984 Mercedes and beyond (light yellow)
> >> >> 1990 Deere and Company vehicles and beyond (green)
> >> >> 2001 Chrysler, Dodge, and Jeep and beyond (orange)
> >> >> 2002 Ford, Lincoln and Mercury trucks and SUVS and beyond (yellow)
> >> >> 2003 Ford, Lincoln, and Mercury automobiles and beyond (yellow)
> >> >>
> >> >> You are certainly free to use Prestone, but this is what DC warns
you
> >> >> will
> >> >> happen:
> >> >> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2102424208
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:-NOdnQz-NLK3Ke7YnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> >> > Flushed my coolant today. I put the prestone tee in one of the
> >> >> > heater
> >> >> > hoses and completely flushed everything untill clear water came
out.
> >> >> > Here's what's got me baffled... When the guy at Firestone checked
it
> >> > with
> >> >> > the tester, it was brown. The coolant that came out of the motor
was
> >> >> > reasonably green. Suprise #2: I bought the Zerex G-05 in the Gold
> > jug..
> >> >> > the coolant was CLEAR!! Wierd!! Why is it that you have to use the
> > G-05
> >> >> > instead of the regular prestone?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Carl
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Coolant suprise
 

It would be helpful to know if the cheap-ass (pardon my French) stuff is
"safe for all uses" like it says on the can. Next time I get a chance, I
will see what I can figure out from the label. If so, I know what I would
use.

Earle

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:b9458$457485e6$422afc51$24392@FUSE.NET...
> Ya know, It wasn't that long ago that it didn't matter what brand you
> bought because it was all IAT coolant....
>
> That basic formula was made by everyone and it had been in use for
decades
> but was no longer able to keep up with the changes in cooling system
> requirements.
>
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> news:45746513$0$3517$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> >I said "no name" because the name wasn't recognizible. It could easily
be
> > made by one of the name brand manufacturers. I'll bet it's the cheapest
> > formulation though, and which one is that? There is a lot of
information
> > on
> > the back, including the major ingredients. Next time I go I'll see if I
> > can
> > figure it out.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:b5b03$457451e4$422afc51$13637@FUSE.NET...
> >> It is hard to say. Industry publications say that the 'automotive'
> >> Prestones are all OAT which is what DexCool uses. The Peak marketed
> >> specifically for DC, Ford and Mercedes is OAT according to the Peak
> > website.
> >>
> >> Most brands either claim OAT or refuse to reveal what anti corrosive
> > package
> >> they use.
> >>
> >> If you want the old fashioned "Green' coolant it is/was using IAT
> >> anti-corrosives. The only company I know for sure still makes it is
> >> Zerex
> >> in the white jug.
> >>
> >> The new stuff is G-05 (HOAT or Glysantin) spec. I wouldn't use
anything
> >> that doesn't say it contains one or more of these terms in big letters
on
> >> the bottle. I would avoid products that don't list the package used
and
> >> only say things like 'recommended for'. If it meets the G-05
standard
> > it
> >> will say so clearly.
> >>
> >> Wal-Mart used to post MSDS sheets online somewhere, it may well tell
you
> > who
> >> the original manufacturer is and the chemical composition (other than
the
> >> ethylene glycol base)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> >> news:45745947$0$3480$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> >> >I wonder what is in the WalMart no-name concentrate? It appears to be
> > pale
> >> > yellow too. They also sell the Prestone 50/50 mix, for the same
price
> > as
> >> > the no-name concentrate.
> >> >
> >> > Earle
> >> >
> >> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:e0620$4573be4d$422afc51$9785@FUSE.NET...
> >> >> Zerex G-05 in the aftermarket is pale yellow.
> >> >> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...18433873&idx=5
> >> >>
> >> >> In other applications it is:
> >> >>
(http://www.valvoline.com/pages/produ...asp?product=10)
> >> >> What vehicles use Zerex G-05 in the factory fill and what is the dye
> >> > color?
> >> >> 1984 Mercedes and beyond (light yellow)
> >> >> 1990 Deere and Company vehicles and beyond (green)
> >> >> 2001 Chrysler, Dodge, and Jeep and beyond (orange)
> >> >> 2002 Ford, Lincoln and Mercury trucks and SUVS and beyond (yellow)
> >> >> 2003 Ford, Lincoln, and Mercury automobiles and beyond (yellow)
> >> >>
> >> >> You are certainly free to use Prestone, but this is what DC warns
you
> >> >> will
> >> >> happen:
> >> >> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2102424208
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:-NOdnQz-NLK3Ke7YnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> >> > Flushed my coolant today. I put the prestone tee in one of the
> >> >> > heater
> >> >> > hoses and completely flushed everything untill clear water came
out.
> >> >> > Here's what's got me baffled... When the guy at Firestone checked
it
> >> > with
> >> >> > the tester, it was brown. The coolant that came out of the motor
was
> >> >> > reasonably green. Suprise #2: I bought the Zerex G-05 in the Gold
> > jug..
> >> >> > the coolant was CLEAR!! Wierd!! Why is it that you have to use the
> > G-05
> >> >> > instead of the regular prestone?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Carl
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Coolant suprise
 

It would be helpful to know if the cheap-ass (pardon my French) stuff is
"safe for all uses" like it says on the can. Next time I get a chance, I
will see what I can figure out from the label. If so, I know what I would
use.

Earle

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:b9458$457485e6$422afc51$24392@FUSE.NET...
> Ya know, It wasn't that long ago that it didn't matter what brand you
> bought because it was all IAT coolant....
>
> That basic formula was made by everyone and it had been in use for
decades
> but was no longer able to keep up with the changes in cooling system
> requirements.
>
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> news:45746513$0$3517$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> >I said "no name" because the name wasn't recognizible. It could easily
be
> > made by one of the name brand manufacturers. I'll bet it's the cheapest
> > formulation though, and which one is that? There is a lot of
information
> > on
> > the back, including the major ingredients. Next time I go I'll see if I
> > can
> > figure it out.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:b5b03$457451e4$422afc51$13637@FUSE.NET...
> >> It is hard to say. Industry publications say that the 'automotive'
> >> Prestones are all OAT which is what DexCool uses. The Peak marketed
> >> specifically for DC, Ford and Mercedes is OAT according to the Peak
> > website.
> >>
> >> Most brands either claim OAT or refuse to reveal what anti corrosive
> > package
> >> they use.
> >>
> >> If you want the old fashioned "Green' coolant it is/was using IAT
> >> anti-corrosives. The only company I know for sure still makes it is
> >> Zerex
> >> in the white jug.
> >>
> >> The new stuff is G-05 (HOAT or Glysantin) spec. I wouldn't use
anything
> >> that doesn't say it contains one or more of these terms in big letters
on
> >> the bottle. I would avoid products that don't list the package used
and
> >> only say things like 'recommended for'. If it meets the G-05
standard
> > it
> >> will say so clearly.
> >>
> >> Wal-Mart used to post MSDS sheets online somewhere, it may well tell
you
> > who
> >> the original manufacturer is and the chemical composition (other than
the
> >> ethylene glycol base)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> >> news:45745947$0$3480$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> >> >I wonder what is in the WalMart no-name concentrate? It appears to be
> > pale
> >> > yellow too. They also sell the Prestone 50/50 mix, for the same
price
> > as
> >> > the no-name concentrate.
> >> >
> >> > Earle
> >> >
> >> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:e0620$4573be4d$422afc51$9785@FUSE.NET...
> >> >> Zerex G-05 in the aftermarket is pale yellow.
> >> >> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...18433873&idx=5
> >> >>
> >> >> In other applications it is:
> >> >>
(http://www.valvoline.com/pages/produ...asp?product=10)
> >> >> What vehicles use Zerex G-05 in the factory fill and what is the dye
> >> > color?
> >> >> 1984 Mercedes and beyond (light yellow)
> >> >> 1990 Deere and Company vehicles and beyond (green)
> >> >> 2001 Chrysler, Dodge, and Jeep and beyond (orange)
> >> >> 2002 Ford, Lincoln and Mercury trucks and SUVS and beyond (yellow)
> >> >> 2003 Ford, Lincoln, and Mercury automobiles and beyond (yellow)
> >> >>
> >> >> You are certainly free to use Prestone, but this is what DC warns
you
> >> >> will
> >> >> happen:
> >> >> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2102424208
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:-NOdnQz-NLK3Ke7YnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> >> > Flushed my coolant today. I put the prestone tee in one of the
> >> >> > heater
> >> >> > hoses and completely flushed everything untill clear water came
out.
> >> >> > Here's what's got me baffled... When the guy at Firestone checked
it
> >> > with
> >> >> > the tester, it was brown. The coolant that came out of the motor
was
> >> >> > reasonably green. Suprise #2: I bought the Zerex G-05 in the Gold
> > jug..
> >> >> > the coolant was CLEAR!! Wierd!! Why is it that you have to use the
> > G-05
> >> >> > instead of the regular prestone?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Carl
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Coolant suprise
 

I just got three gallons of the Zerex G-05 for the TJ, which I plan to flush
& fill this week if it gets above freezing, replacing the Zerex green.
Billy, any advice? (I already have the flush tee installed.)

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:b5b03$457451e4$422afc51$13637@FUSE.NET...
> It is hard to say. Industry publications say that the 'automotive'
> Prestones are all OAT which is what DexCool uses. The Peak marketed
> specifically for DC, Ford and Mercedes is OAT according to the Peak
> website.
>
> Most brands either claim OAT or refuse to reveal what anti corrosive
> package they use.
>
> If you want the old fashioned "Green' coolant it is/was using IAT
> anti-corrosives. The only company I know for sure still makes it is Zerex
> in the white jug.
>
> The new stuff is G-05 (HOAT or Glysantin) spec. I wouldn't use anything
> that doesn't say it contains one or more of these terms in big letters on
> the bottle. I would avoid products that don't list the package used and
> only say things like 'recommended for'. If it meets the G-05 standard
> it will say so clearly.
>
> Wal-Mart used to post MSDS sheets online somewhere, it may well tell you
> who the original manufacturer is and the chemical composition (other than
> the ethylene glycol base)
>
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> news:45745947$0$3480$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
>>I wonder what is in the WalMart no-name concentrate? It appears to be
>>pale
>> yellow too. They also sell the Prestone 50/50 mix, for the same price as
>> the no-name concentrate.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:e0620$4573be4d$422afc51$9785@FUSE.NET...
>>> Zerex G-05 in the aftermarket is pale yellow.
>>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...18433873&idx=5
>>>
>>> In other applications it is:
>>> (http://www.valvoline.com/pages/produ...asp?product=10)
>>> What vehicles use Zerex G-05 in the factory fill and what is the dye
>> color?
>>> 1984 Mercedes and beyond (light yellow)
>>> 1990 Deere and Company vehicles and beyond (green)
>>> 2001 Chrysler, Dodge, and Jeep and beyond (orange)
>>> 2002 Ford, Lincoln and Mercury trucks and SUVS and beyond (yellow)
>>> 2003 Ford, Lincoln, and Mercury automobiles and beyond (yellow)
>>>
>>> You are certainly free to use Prestone, but this is what DC warns you
>>> will
>>> happen:
>>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2102424208
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
>>> news:-NOdnQz-NLK3Ke7YnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> > Flushed my coolant today. I put the prestone tee in one of the heater
>>> > hoses and completely flushed everything untill clear water came out.
>>> > Here's what's got me baffled... When the guy at Firestone checked it
>> with
>>> > the tester, it was brown. The coolant that came out of the motor was
>>> > reasonably green. Suprise #2: I bought the Zerex G-05 in the Gold
>>> > jug..
>>> > the coolant was CLEAR!! Wierd!! Why is it that you have to use the
>>> > G-05
>>> > instead of the regular prestone?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> >
>>> > Carl
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>