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Front drive was invented here too. http://www.panacealimo.com/cord.html
Earle
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
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> Every GM passenger car marque including Cadillac has a front wheel drive
> car.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/n893d
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:44179E5F.34E39D56@***.net...
> > Fortunately, Cadillac and other GMs have gone to American
> > engineered for Americans rear wheel drive:
> > http://cadillac.jbcarpages.com/STS/2005/
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> >>
> >> Bill, wake up and smell the coffee. Most passenger cars on the road
> >> today,
> >> American marks included, are front wheel drive. And I suppose you
forget
> >> Saab's offerings, Cadillac Eldorado and seventies GMC motor homes, to
> >> name a
> >> few historical non-rice fueled front drive vehicles.
> >>
> >> I do remember the first time I topped an icy hill in a front drive
> >> vehicle,
> >> planning to use engine braking down the other side. I found out fast,
it
> >> doesn't work as well. I forget the year, but it was an air-cooled
Honda
> >> 600.
> >>
> >> Earle
> >>
> >> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >> news:44177A59.8E20A5C3@***.net...
> >> > There's one exception, the front wheel drive rice burner, the
> >> > reason antilock brake system wer invented for their paniced drivers.
> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >> >
> >> > 4X4PLAY wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Man, I have to really agree with Mike...I know what he says is a
> >> fact...I
> >> > > live in a Valley in Nova Scotia where we get alot of snow and ice
> >> conditions
> >> > > to contend with and I know for sure when I'm in part time and hit
the
> >> brakes
> >> > > on ice my open diff'd TJ will slide side ways every time...unlike
my
> >> Grand
> >> > > Cherokee in Full time will follow a straight line everytime....
> >> > >
> >> > > The other thing is, it has to be the tires...after reading this and
> >> running
> >> > > it over and over in my mind and being out on the North Mountain
snow
> >> > > wheeling several times since I have a hard time grasping the loss
of
> >> > > traction and not using gearing to come down the hills as I do all
the
> >> > > time...it really makes me think that it was all a tire problem...I
> >> > > run a
> >> > > good tire!
> >> > >
> >> > > Spdloader are you in an area that receives snow?? what type of Jeep
> >> > > do
> >> you
> >> > > drive??
> >> > >
> >> > > Jeff
>
>
Earle
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:FcidnQW-oMVrgIXZnZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Every GM passenger car marque including Cadillac has a front wheel drive
> car.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/n893d
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:44179E5F.34E39D56@***.net...
> > Fortunately, Cadillac and other GMs have gone to American
> > engineered for Americans rear wheel drive:
> > http://cadillac.jbcarpages.com/STS/2005/
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> >>
> >> Bill, wake up and smell the coffee. Most passenger cars on the road
> >> today,
> >> American marks included, are front wheel drive. And I suppose you
forget
> >> Saab's offerings, Cadillac Eldorado and seventies GMC motor homes, to
> >> name a
> >> few historical non-rice fueled front drive vehicles.
> >>
> >> I do remember the first time I topped an icy hill in a front drive
> >> vehicle,
> >> planning to use engine braking down the other side. I found out fast,
it
> >> doesn't work as well. I forget the year, but it was an air-cooled
Honda
> >> 600.
> >>
> >> Earle
> >>
> >> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >> news:44177A59.8E20A5C3@***.net...
> >> > There's one exception, the front wheel drive rice burner, the
> >> > reason antilock brake system wer invented for their paniced drivers.
> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >> >
> >> > 4X4PLAY wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Man, I have to really agree with Mike...I know what he says is a
> >> fact...I
> >> > > live in a Valley in Nova Scotia where we get alot of snow and ice
> >> conditions
> >> > > to contend with and I know for sure when I'm in part time and hit
the
> >> brakes
> >> > > on ice my open diff'd TJ will slide side ways every time...unlike
my
> >> Grand
> >> > > Cherokee in Full time will follow a straight line everytime....
> >> > >
> >> > > The other thing is, it has to be the tires...after reading this and
> >> running
> >> > > it over and over in my mind and being out on the North Mountain
snow
> >> > > wheeling several times since I have a hard time grasping the loss
of
> >> > > traction and not using gearing to come down the hills as I do all
the
> >> > > time...it really makes me think that it was all a tire problem...I
> >> > > run a
> >> > > good tire!
> >> > >
> >> > > Spdloader are you in an area that receives snow?? what type of Jeep
> >> > > do
> >> you
> >> > > drive??
> >> > >
> >> > > Jeff
>
>
Guest
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IIRC, they were invented for aircraft, and first deployed in cars in the RWD
Mercedes.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44177A59.8E20A5C3@***.net...
> There's one exception, the front wheel drive rice burner, the
> reason antilock brake system wer invented for their paniced drivers.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> 4X4PLAY wrote:
> >
> > Man, I have to really agree with Mike...I know what he says is a
fact...I
> > live in a Valley in Nova Scotia where we get alot of snow and ice
conditions
> > to contend with and I know for sure when I'm in part time and hit the
brakes
> > on ice my open diff'd TJ will slide side ways every time...unlike my
Grand
> > Cherokee in Full time will follow a straight line everytime....
> >
> > The other thing is, it has to be the tires...after reading this and
running
> > it over and over in my mind and being out on the North Mountain snow
> > wheeling several times since I have a hard time grasping the loss of
> > traction and not using gearing to come down the hills as I do all the
> > time...it really makes me think that it was all a tire problem...I run a
> > good tire!
> >
> > Spdloader are you in an area that receives snow?? what type of Jeep do
you
> > drive??
> >
> > Jeff
Mercedes.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44177A59.8E20A5C3@***.net...
> There's one exception, the front wheel drive rice burner, the
> reason antilock brake system wer invented for their paniced drivers.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> 4X4PLAY wrote:
> >
> > Man, I have to really agree with Mike...I know what he says is a
fact...I
> > live in a Valley in Nova Scotia where we get alot of snow and ice
conditions
> > to contend with and I know for sure when I'm in part time and hit the
brakes
> > on ice my open diff'd TJ will slide side ways every time...unlike my
Grand
> > Cherokee in Full time will follow a straight line everytime....
> >
> > The other thing is, it has to be the tires...after reading this and
running
> > it over and over in my mind and being out on the North Mountain snow
> > wheeling several times since I have a hard time grasping the loss of
> > traction and not using gearing to come down the hills as I do all the
> > time...it really makes me think that it was all a tire problem...I run a
> > good tire!
> >
> > Spdloader are you in an area that receives snow?? what type of Jeep do
you
> > drive??
> >
> > Jeff
Guest
Posts: n/a
IIRC, they were invented for aircraft, and first deployed in cars in the RWD
Mercedes.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44177A59.8E20A5C3@***.net...
> There's one exception, the front wheel drive rice burner, the
> reason antilock brake system wer invented for their paniced drivers.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> 4X4PLAY wrote:
> >
> > Man, I have to really agree with Mike...I know what he says is a
fact...I
> > live in a Valley in Nova Scotia where we get alot of snow and ice
conditions
> > to contend with and I know for sure when I'm in part time and hit the
brakes
> > on ice my open diff'd TJ will slide side ways every time...unlike my
Grand
> > Cherokee in Full time will follow a straight line everytime....
> >
> > The other thing is, it has to be the tires...after reading this and
running
> > it over and over in my mind and being out on the North Mountain snow
> > wheeling several times since I have a hard time grasping the loss of
> > traction and not using gearing to come down the hills as I do all the
> > time...it really makes me think that it was all a tire problem...I run a
> > good tire!
> >
> > Spdloader are you in an area that receives snow?? what type of Jeep do
you
> > drive??
> >
> > Jeff
Mercedes.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44177A59.8E20A5C3@***.net...
> There's one exception, the front wheel drive rice burner, the
> reason antilock brake system wer invented for their paniced drivers.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> 4X4PLAY wrote:
> >
> > Man, I have to really agree with Mike...I know what he says is a
fact...I
> > live in a Valley in Nova Scotia where we get alot of snow and ice
conditions
> > to contend with and I know for sure when I'm in part time and hit the
brakes
> > on ice my open diff'd TJ will slide side ways every time...unlike my
Grand
> > Cherokee in Full time will follow a straight line everytime....
> >
> > The other thing is, it has to be the tires...after reading this and
running
> > it over and over in my mind and being out on the North Mountain snow
> > wheeling several times since I have a hard time grasping the loss of
> > traction and not using gearing to come down the hills as I do all the
> > time...it really makes me think that it was all a tire problem...I run a
> > good tire!
> >
> > Spdloader are you in an area that receives snow?? what type of Jeep do
you
> > drive??
> >
> > Jeff
Guest
Posts: n/a
IIRC, they were invented for aircraft, and first deployed in cars in the RWD
Mercedes.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44177A59.8E20A5C3@***.net...
> There's one exception, the front wheel drive rice burner, the
> reason antilock brake system wer invented for their paniced drivers.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> 4X4PLAY wrote:
> >
> > Man, I have to really agree with Mike...I know what he says is a
fact...I
> > live in a Valley in Nova Scotia where we get alot of snow and ice
conditions
> > to contend with and I know for sure when I'm in part time and hit the
brakes
> > on ice my open diff'd TJ will slide side ways every time...unlike my
Grand
> > Cherokee in Full time will follow a straight line everytime....
> >
> > The other thing is, it has to be the tires...after reading this and
running
> > it over and over in my mind and being out on the North Mountain snow
> > wheeling several times since I have a hard time grasping the loss of
> > traction and not using gearing to come down the hills as I do all the
> > time...it really makes me think that it was all a tire problem...I run a
> > good tire!
> >
> > Spdloader are you in an area that receives snow?? what type of Jeep do
you
> > drive??
> >
> > Jeff
Mercedes.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44177A59.8E20A5C3@***.net...
> There's one exception, the front wheel drive rice burner, the
> reason antilock brake system wer invented for their paniced drivers.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> 4X4PLAY wrote:
> >
> > Man, I have to really agree with Mike...I know what he says is a
fact...I
> > live in a Valley in Nova Scotia where we get alot of snow and ice
conditions
> > to contend with and I know for sure when I'm in part time and hit the
brakes
> > on ice my open diff'd TJ will slide side ways every time...unlike my
Grand
> > Cherokee in Full time will follow a straight line everytime....
> >
> > The other thing is, it has to be the tires...after reading this and
running
> > it over and over in my mind and being out on the North Mountain snow
> > wheeling several times since I have a hard time grasping the loss of
> > traction and not using gearing to come down the hills as I do all the
> > time...it really makes me think that it was all a tire problem...I run a
> > good tire!
> >
> > Spdloader are you in an area that receives snow?? what type of Jeep do
you
> > drive??
> >
> > Jeff
Guest
Posts: n/a
IIRC, they were invented for aircraft, and first deployed in cars in the RWD
Mercedes.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44177A59.8E20A5C3@***.net...
> There's one exception, the front wheel drive rice burner, the
> reason antilock brake system wer invented for their paniced drivers.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> 4X4PLAY wrote:
> >
> > Man, I have to really agree with Mike...I know what he says is a
fact...I
> > live in a Valley in Nova Scotia where we get alot of snow and ice
conditions
> > to contend with and I know for sure when I'm in part time and hit the
brakes
> > on ice my open diff'd TJ will slide side ways every time...unlike my
Grand
> > Cherokee in Full time will follow a straight line everytime....
> >
> > The other thing is, it has to be the tires...after reading this and
running
> > it over and over in my mind and being out on the North Mountain snow
> > wheeling several times since I have a hard time grasping the loss of
> > traction and not using gearing to come down the hills as I do all the
> > time...it really makes me think that it was all a tire problem...I run a
> > good tire!
> >
> > Spdloader are you in an area that receives snow?? what type of Jeep do
you
> > drive??
> >
> > Jeff
Mercedes.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44177A59.8E20A5C3@***.net...
> There's one exception, the front wheel drive rice burner, the
> reason antilock brake system wer invented for their paniced drivers.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> 4X4PLAY wrote:
> >
> > Man, I have to really agree with Mike...I know what he says is a
fact...I
> > live in a Valley in Nova Scotia where we get alot of snow and ice
conditions
> > to contend with and I know for sure when I'm in part time and hit the
brakes
> > on ice my open diff'd TJ will slide side ways every time...unlike my
Grand
> > Cherokee in Full time will follow a straight line everytime....
> >
> > The other thing is, it has to be the tires...after reading this and
running
> > it over and over in my mind and being out on the North Mountain snow
> > wheeling several times since I have a hard time grasping the loss of
> > traction and not using gearing to come down the hills as I do all the
> > time...it really makes me think that it was all a tire problem...I run a
> > good tire!
> >
> > Spdloader are you in an area that receives snow?? what type of Jeep do
you
> > drive??
> >
> > Jeff
Guest
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Yup, since the '65 Eldorado and Coronado, Fortunately, as I said,
Cadillac and other GMs have gone back to American engineered for
Americans rear wheel drive:
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...30/312110.html Even the
Japanese have gone back to rear wheel drive in their high end ricers
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Every GM passenger car marque including Cadillac has a front wheel drive
> car.
Cadillac and other GMs have gone back to American engineered for
Americans rear wheel drive:
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...30/312110.html Even the
Japanese have gone back to rear wheel drive in their high end ricers
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Every GM passenger car marque including Cadillac has a front wheel drive
> car.
Guest
Posts: n/a
Yup, since the '65 Eldorado and Coronado, Fortunately, as I said,
Cadillac and other GMs have gone back to American engineered for
Americans rear wheel drive:
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...30/312110.html Even the
Japanese have gone back to rear wheel drive in their high end ricers
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Every GM passenger car marque including Cadillac has a front wheel drive
> car.
Cadillac and other GMs have gone back to American engineered for
Americans rear wheel drive:
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...30/312110.html Even the
Japanese have gone back to rear wheel drive in their high end ricers
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Every GM passenger car marque including Cadillac has a front wheel drive
> car.
Guest
Posts: n/a
Yup, since the '65 Eldorado and Coronado, Fortunately, as I said,
Cadillac and other GMs have gone back to American engineered for
Americans rear wheel drive:
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...30/312110.html Even the
Japanese have gone back to rear wheel drive in their high end ricers
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Every GM passenger car marque including Cadillac has a front wheel drive
> car.
Cadillac and other GMs have gone back to American engineered for
Americans rear wheel drive:
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...30/312110.html Even the
Japanese have gone back to rear wheel drive in their high end ricers
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Every GM passenger car marque including Cadillac has a front wheel drive
> car.
Guest
Posts: n/a
Yup, since the '65 Eldorado and Coronado, Fortunately, as I said,
Cadillac and other GMs have gone back to American engineered for
Americans rear wheel drive:
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...30/312110.html Even the
Japanese have gone back to rear wheel drive in their high end ricers
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Every GM passenger car marque including Cadillac has a front wheel drive
> car.
Cadillac and other GMs have gone back to American engineered for
Americans rear wheel drive:
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...30/312110.html Even the
Japanese have gone back to rear wheel drive in their high end ricers
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Every GM passenger car marque including Cadillac has a front wheel drive
> car.
Guest
Posts: n/a
True.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-lock_brakes
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:zu_Rf.36526$wl.12667@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> IIRC, they were invented for aircraft, and first deployed in cars in the
> RWD
> Mercedes.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:44177A59.8E20A5C3@***.net...
>> There's one exception, the front wheel drive rice burner, the
>> reason antilock brake system wer invented for their paniced drivers.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> 4X4PLAY wrote:
>> >
>> > Man, I have to really agree with Mike...I know what he says is a
> fact...I
>> > live in a Valley in Nova Scotia where we get alot of snow and ice
> conditions
>> > to contend with and I know for sure when I'm in part time and hit the
> brakes
>> > on ice my open diff'd TJ will slide side ways every time...unlike my
> Grand
>> > Cherokee in Full time will follow a straight line everytime....
>> >
>> > The other thing is, it has to be the tires...after reading this and
> running
>> > it over and over in my mind and being out on the North Mountain snow
>> > wheeling several times since I have a hard time grasping the loss of
>> > traction and not using gearing to come down the hills as I do all the
>> > time...it really makes me think that it was all a tire problem...I run
>> > a
>> > good tire!
>> >
>> > Spdloader are you in an area that receives snow?? what type of Jeep do
> you
>> > drive??
>> >
>> > Jeff
>
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-lock_brakes
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:zu_Rf.36526$wl.12667@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> IIRC, they were invented for aircraft, and first deployed in cars in the
> RWD
> Mercedes.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:44177A59.8E20A5C3@***.net...
>> There's one exception, the front wheel drive rice burner, the
>> reason antilock brake system wer invented for their paniced drivers.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> 4X4PLAY wrote:
>> >
>> > Man, I have to really agree with Mike...I know what he says is a
> fact...I
>> > live in a Valley in Nova Scotia where we get alot of snow and ice
> conditions
>> > to contend with and I know for sure when I'm in part time and hit the
> brakes
>> > on ice my open diff'd TJ will slide side ways every time...unlike my
> Grand
>> > Cherokee in Full time will follow a straight line everytime....
>> >
>> > The other thing is, it has to be the tires...after reading this and
> running
>> > it over and over in my mind and being out on the North Mountain snow
>> > wheeling several times since I have a hard time grasping the loss of
>> > traction and not using gearing to come down the hills as I do all the
>> > time...it really makes me think that it was all a tire problem...I run
>> > a
>> > good tire!
>> >
>> > Spdloader are you in an area that receives snow?? what type of Jeep do
> you
>> > drive??
>> >
>> > Jeff
>
>


