Steve

When you pull the slip yoke, fluid can come out around the splined
output shaft. If you park it facing slightly down hill, you won't lose
more than a few drops when the slip yoke comes out. Then clamp on a cap
and you're good to go.

Steve

Joseph P wrote:
> Where again will the fluid come out? The middle of the output shaft,
> or what? I had no fluid come out, nor will the output move.

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Real Jeeps have fixed yokes, and strong output shafts:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...ana20Shaft.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Steve wrote:
>
> The slip yoke holds the t-case fluid in. When you remove your rear
> shaft, there's nothing keeping the slip yoke in place, so it has to come
> out too. You'll only lose a few drops when you pull the slip yoke out,
> but once you start driving you'll lose enough to do major damage.
>
> What you need to do is cap it off so you can drive it. I've used duct
> tape and a soda can to get me home on several occasions.
>
> You don't need a CJ to avoid this and many other shortcomings of the
> slip yoke design:
>
> http://www.stu-offroad.com/otherwriteups/sye/sye-1.htm
>
> Steve

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Real Jeeps have fixed yokes, and strong output shafts:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...ana20Shaft.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Steve wrote:
>
> The slip yoke holds the t-case fluid in. When you remove your rear
> shaft, there's nothing keeping the slip yoke in place, so it has to come
> out too. You'll only lose a few drops when you pull the slip yoke out,
> but once you start driving you'll lose enough to do major damage.
>
> What you need to do is cap it off so you can drive it. I've used duct
> tape and a soda can to get me home on several occasions.
>
> You don't need a CJ to avoid this and many other shortcomings of the
> slip yoke design:
>
> http://www.stu-offroad.com/otherwriteups/sye/sye-1.htm
>
> Steve

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Real Jeeps have fixed yokes, and strong output shafts:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...ana20Shaft.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Steve wrote:
>
> The slip yoke holds the t-case fluid in. When you remove your rear
> shaft, there's nothing keeping the slip yoke in place, so it has to come
> out too. You'll only lose a few drops when you pull the slip yoke out,
> but once you start driving you'll lose enough to do major damage.
>
> What you need to do is cap it off so you can drive it. I've used duct
> tape and a soda can to get me home on several occasions.
>
> You don't need a CJ to avoid this and many other shortcomings of the
> slip yoke design:
>
> http://www.stu-offroad.com/otherwriteups/sye/sye-1.htm
>
> Steve

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Real Jeeps have fixed yokes, and strong output shafts:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...ana20Shaft.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Steve wrote:
>
> The slip yoke holds the t-case fluid in. When you remove your rear
> shaft, there's nothing keeping the slip yoke in place, so it has to come
> out too. You'll only lose a few drops when you pull the slip yoke out,
> but once you start driving you'll lose enough to do major damage.
>
> What you need to do is cap it off so you can drive it. I've used duct
> tape and a soda can to get me home on several occasions.
>
> You don't need a CJ to avoid this and many other shortcomings of the
> slip yoke design:
>
> http://www.stu-offroad.com/otherwriteups/sye/sye-1.htm
>
> Steve

Bob

He's referring to your criticism of his supposed "terrible netiquette"
in top-posting. To each his own man.

And while you may be annoyed at his asking about your decision to pull
the rear driveshaft, I have to agree with him asking, especially after
your response: "Yes. 1998 Jeep Wrangler (did you look at sig?) NV231
TCase (has splined output shaft.)" I'm not sure how that answers the
question. Does it have a fixed output yoke (of course it's
splined...it's splined whether you have a slip yoke or a fixed yoke)
or a slip yoke? i.e. have you installed an SYE on the case? If not,
you shouldn't drive around with the tailshaft removed, it WILL leak.

And it's interesting that you get annoyed about us asking the question
if you don't even know under what circumstance you would lose fluid by
pulling the tailshaft ("Mike, how exactly would I lose the fluid?
....").

Relax, man. We're all just trying to help, here. Don't be so quick to
jump down people's throats!

....and on a side note, I prefer top-posting and when others top-post;
it makes it much more efficient to read messages using Google when I
want to look up something old, and also because I currently use google
for all my NG reading since my cable ISP has crappy direct newsgroup
service.

/Bob


"Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message news:<D_Wsc.60531$V_.2806890@twister.southeast.rr. com>...
> I was trying to save myself from
> naOsc.33742$cA1.22976@fe13.usenetserver.com,
> but <noEmail@please.com> wouldn't let me go...
>
> | Just drive the jeep, the noise from the bad bearings is only
> | half as annoying as someone criticizing you as you try to help
> | them.
> |
> |
> | "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> | news:UTMsc.60067$V_.2727758@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> || I was trying to save myself from
> || 4vLsc.60791$U4.7529@fe29.usenetserver.com,
> || but <noEmail@please.com> wouldn't let me go...
> ||
> |||
> |||
> ||| "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> ||| news:y5Lsc.60041$V_.2721315@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> |||| Can't get into the shop soon enough, and my TJ is my only
> |||| vehicle...needs opinions (fact would be better) as to how
> |||| long I can drive on the front axle. Read as: Rear
> |||| propeller shaft (driveshaft) removed from vehicle, transfer
> |||| case place in 4H.
> ||||
>
> ||| What bearings are bad?
> || Pinion bearings, maybe carrier as well, getting it rebuilt,
> || probably by Rob @ http://www.downeastoffroad.com/
> ||
> ||| Does removing the rear axle stop those bearings from moving?
> || No, but by doing so, and removing anykind of actual load from
> || those bearing, the noise has gone away, so I do indeed know
> || what the problem is.
> ||
> ||| Can you remove the driveline without losing fluid out of
> ||| your t
> || case?
> || Yes. 1998 Jeep Wrangler (did you look at sig?) NV231 TCase
> || (has splined output shaft.)
> ||
> || And don't top post, it is terrible netiquette
> ||
> ||||
> ||||
> |||| --
> |||| --
> |||| Joe Pribe
> |||| NC
> |||| jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com
> |||| jegp 'at' hotmail.com
> |||| ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
> ||
> ||
> ||
> || --
> || --
> || Joe Pribe
> || NC
> || jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com
> || jegp 'at' hotmail.com
> || ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
>
> Not criticism dude, it is annoyance. You make the assumption that I
> have no idea what I am talking about. Instead of answering my
> question, you bring question my decision to pull the rear drive shaft.
> All I wanted to know about was driving by utilizing the front end
> only. And you still haven't answered that.
>
> --

Bob

He's referring to your criticism of his supposed "terrible netiquette"
in top-posting. To each his own man.

And while you may be annoyed at his asking about your decision to pull
the rear driveshaft, I have to agree with him asking, especially after
your response: "Yes. 1998 Jeep Wrangler (did you look at sig?) NV231
TCase (has splined output shaft.)" I'm not sure how that answers the
question. Does it have a fixed output yoke (of course it's
splined...it's splined whether you have a slip yoke or a fixed yoke)
or a slip yoke? i.e. have you installed an SYE on the case? If not,
you shouldn't drive around with the tailshaft removed, it WILL leak.

And it's interesting that you get annoyed about us asking the question
if you don't even know under what circumstance you would lose fluid by
pulling the tailshaft ("Mike, how exactly would I lose the fluid?
....").

Relax, man. We're all just trying to help, here. Don't be so quick to
jump down people's throats!

....and on a side note, I prefer top-posting and when others top-post;
it makes it much more efficient to read messages using Google when I
want to look up something old, and also because I currently use google
for all my NG reading since my cable ISP has crappy direct newsgroup
service.

/Bob


"Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message news:<D_Wsc.60531$V_.2806890@twister.southeast.rr. com>...
> I was trying to save myself from
> naOsc.33742$cA1.22976@fe13.usenetserver.com,
> but <noEmail@please.com> wouldn't let me go...
>
> | Just drive the jeep, the noise from the bad bearings is only
> | half as annoying as someone criticizing you as you try to help
> | them.
> |
> |
> | "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> | news:UTMsc.60067$V_.2727758@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> || I was trying to save myself from
> || 4vLsc.60791$U4.7529@fe29.usenetserver.com,
> || but <noEmail@please.com> wouldn't let me go...
> ||
> |||
> |||
> ||| "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> ||| news:y5Lsc.60041$V_.2721315@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> |||| Can't get into the shop soon enough, and my TJ is my only
> |||| vehicle...needs opinions (fact would be better) as to how
> |||| long I can drive on the front axle. Read as: Rear
> |||| propeller shaft (driveshaft) removed from vehicle, transfer
> |||| case place in 4H.
> ||||
>
> ||| What bearings are bad?
> || Pinion bearings, maybe carrier as well, getting it rebuilt,
> || probably by Rob @ http://www.downeastoffroad.com/
> ||
> ||| Does removing the rear axle stop those bearings from moving?
> || No, but by doing so, and removing anykind of actual load from
> || those bearing, the noise has gone away, so I do indeed know
> || what the problem is.
> ||
> ||| Can you remove the driveline without losing fluid out of
> ||| your t
> || case?
> || Yes. 1998 Jeep Wrangler (did you look at sig?) NV231 TCase
> || (has splined output shaft.)
> ||
> || And don't top post, it is terrible netiquette
> ||
> ||||
> ||||
> |||| --
> |||| --
> |||| Joe Pribe
> |||| NC
> |||| jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com
> |||| jegp 'at' hotmail.com
> |||| ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
> ||
> ||
> ||
> || --
> || --
> || Joe Pribe
> || NC
> || jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com
> || jegp 'at' hotmail.com
> || ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
>
> Not criticism dude, it is annoyance. You make the assumption that I
> have no idea what I am talking about. Instead of answering my
> question, you bring question my decision to pull the rear drive shaft.
> All I wanted to know about was driving by utilizing the front end
> only. And you still haven't answered that.
>
> --

Bob

He's referring to your criticism of his supposed "terrible netiquette"
in top-posting. To each his own man.

And while you may be annoyed at his asking about your decision to pull
the rear driveshaft, I have to agree with him asking, especially after
your response: "Yes. 1998 Jeep Wrangler (did you look at sig?) NV231
TCase (has splined output shaft.)" I'm not sure how that answers the
question. Does it have a fixed output yoke (of course it's
splined...it's splined whether you have a slip yoke or a fixed yoke)
or a slip yoke? i.e. have you installed an SYE on the case? If not,
you shouldn't drive around with the tailshaft removed, it WILL leak.

And it's interesting that you get annoyed about us asking the question
if you don't even know under what circumstance you would lose fluid by
pulling the tailshaft ("Mike, how exactly would I lose the fluid?
....").

Relax, man. We're all just trying to help, here. Don't be so quick to
jump down people's throats!

....and on a side note, I prefer top-posting and when others top-post;
it makes it much more efficient to read messages using Google when I
want to look up something old, and also because I currently use google
for all my NG reading since my cable ISP has crappy direct newsgroup
service.

/Bob


"Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message news:<D_Wsc.60531$V_.2806890@twister.southeast.rr. com>...
> I was trying to save myself from
> naOsc.33742$cA1.22976@fe13.usenetserver.com,
> but <noEmail@please.com> wouldn't let me go...
>
> | Just drive the jeep, the noise from the bad bearings is only
> | half as annoying as someone criticizing you as you try to help
> | them.
> |
> |
> | "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> | news:UTMsc.60067$V_.2727758@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> || I was trying to save myself from
> || 4vLsc.60791$U4.7529@fe29.usenetserver.com,
> || but <noEmail@please.com> wouldn't let me go...
> ||
> |||
> |||
> ||| "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> ||| news:y5Lsc.60041$V_.2721315@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> |||| Can't get into the shop soon enough, and my TJ is my only
> |||| vehicle...needs opinions (fact would be better) as to how
> |||| long I can drive on the front axle. Read as: Rear
> |||| propeller shaft (driveshaft) removed from vehicle, transfer
> |||| case place in 4H.
> ||||
>
> ||| What bearings are bad?
> || Pinion bearings, maybe carrier as well, getting it rebuilt,
> || probably by Rob @ http://www.downeastoffroad.com/
> ||
> ||| Does removing the rear axle stop those bearings from moving?
> || No, but by doing so, and removing anykind of actual load from
> || those bearing, the noise has gone away, so I do indeed know
> || what the problem is.
> ||
> ||| Can you remove the driveline without losing fluid out of
> ||| your t
> || case?
> || Yes. 1998 Jeep Wrangler (did you look at sig?) NV231 TCase
> || (has splined output shaft.)
> ||
> || And don't top post, it is terrible netiquette
> ||
> ||||
> ||||
> |||| --
> |||| --
> |||| Joe Pribe
> |||| NC
> |||| jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com
> |||| jegp 'at' hotmail.com
> |||| ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
> ||
> ||
> ||
> || --
> || --
> || Joe Pribe
> || NC
> || jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com
> || jegp 'at' hotmail.com
> || ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
>
> Not criticism dude, it is annoyance. You make the assumption that I
> have no idea what I am talking about. Instead of answering my
> question, you bring question my decision to pull the rear drive shaft.
> All I wanted to know about was driving by utilizing the front end
> only. And you still haven't answered that.
>
> --

Bob

He's referring to your criticism of his supposed "terrible netiquette"
in top-posting. To each his own man.

And while you may be annoyed at his asking about your decision to pull
the rear driveshaft, I have to agree with him asking, especially after
your response: "Yes. 1998 Jeep Wrangler (did you look at sig?) NV231
TCase (has splined output shaft.)" I'm not sure how that answers the
question. Does it have a fixed output yoke (of course it's
splined...it's splined whether you have a slip yoke or a fixed yoke)
or a slip yoke? i.e. have you installed an SYE on the case? If not,
you shouldn't drive around with the tailshaft removed, it WILL leak.

And it's interesting that you get annoyed about us asking the question
if you don't even know under what circumstance you would lose fluid by
pulling the tailshaft ("Mike, how exactly would I lose the fluid?
....").

Relax, man. We're all just trying to help, here. Don't be so quick to
jump down people's throats!

....and on a side note, I prefer top-posting and when others top-post;
it makes it much more efficient to read messages using Google when I
want to look up something old, and also because I currently use google
for all my NG reading since my cable ISP has crappy direct newsgroup
service.

/Bob


"Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message news:<D_Wsc.60531$V_.2806890@twister.southeast.rr. com>...
> I was trying to save myself from
> naOsc.33742$cA1.22976@fe13.usenetserver.com,
> but <noEmail@please.com> wouldn't let me go...
>
> | Just drive the jeep, the noise from the bad bearings is only
> | half as annoying as someone criticizing you as you try to help
> | them.
> |
> |
> | "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> | news:UTMsc.60067$V_.2727758@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> || I was trying to save myself from
> || 4vLsc.60791$U4.7529@fe29.usenetserver.com,
> || but <noEmail@please.com> wouldn't let me go...
> ||
> |||
> |||
> ||| "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> ||| news:y5Lsc.60041$V_.2721315@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> |||| Can't get into the shop soon enough, and my TJ is my only
> |||| vehicle...needs opinions (fact would be better) as to how
> |||| long I can drive on the front axle. Read as: Rear
> |||| propeller shaft (driveshaft) removed from vehicle, transfer
> |||| case place in 4H.
> ||||
>
> ||| What bearings are bad?
> || Pinion bearings, maybe carrier as well, getting it rebuilt,
> || probably by Rob @ http://www.downeastoffroad.com/
> ||
> ||| Does removing the rear axle stop those bearings from moving?
> || No, but by doing so, and removing anykind of actual load from
> || those bearing, the noise has gone away, so I do indeed know
> || what the problem is.
> ||
> ||| Can you remove the driveline without losing fluid out of
> ||| your t
> || case?
> || Yes. 1998 Jeep Wrangler (did you look at sig?) NV231 TCase
> || (has splined output shaft.)
> ||
> || And don't top post, it is terrible netiquette
> ||
> ||||
> ||||
> |||| --
> |||| --
> |||| Joe Pribe
> |||| NC
> |||| jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com
> |||| jegp 'at' hotmail.com
> |||| ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
> ||
> ||
> ||
> || --
> || --
> || Joe Pribe
> || NC
> || jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com
> || jegp 'at' hotmail.com
> || ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
>
> Not criticism dude, it is annoyance. You make the assumption that I
> have no idea what I am talking about. Instead of answering my
> question, you bring question my decision to pull the rear drive shaft.
> All I wanted to know about was driving by utilizing the front end
> only. And you still haven't answered that.
>
> --

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Be knocking on wood, they keep falling out of TJs:
http://www.----------.com/BrokenSlipYoke.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Joseph P wrote:
>
> I have a splined output shaft from the Tcase, I don't see it going
> anywhere anytime soon.
>
> --
> --
> Joe Pribe
> NC
> jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com
> jegp 'at' hotmail.com
> ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ