Joseph P

I was trying to save myself from 40B3DC12.27BD3AFF@sympatico.ca,
but <romainm@sympatico.ca> wouldn't let me go...

| I drove for quite a while like that in my CJ7. I was very
| careful about accelerating with the wheels turned hard, but
| other than that I run in 4x4 for weeks at a time in the
| winter. I don't expect damage....
|
| Just make sure you don't lose the fluid. I think Jerry B said
| a WD40 cap will fit right on and a hose clamp holds it....
|
| Mike
| 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
| 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
|
| Joseph P wrote:
||
|| Can't get into the shop soon enough, and my TJ is my only
|| vehicle...needs opinions (fact would be better) as to how
|| long I can drive on the front axle. Read as: Rear propeller
|| shaft (driveshaft) removed from vehicle, transfer case place
|| in 4H.
||
|| --
|| --
|| Joe Pribe
|| NC
|| jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com
|| jegp 'at' hotmail.com
|| ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ

Mike, how exactly would I lose the fluid? Rusty's posts aside, I am
not trying to be a d!ck, maybe I am smoking something. Or, by telling
me I should be losing fluid, you are really telling me I need a CJ.
;)

--
--
Joe Pribe
NC
jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com
jegp 'at' hotmail.com
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ

SB

well, I thing the etiquette is stronger for bottom posters to trim the
messages they are replying to.
nothing worse than scrolling down pages of old messages to see a one line
reply.

Top posters can get away without trimming but should keep doing it.
anyone that's interested in the thread can google it I say!


"Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:s0Xsc.60540$V_.2806962@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> I was trying to save myself from MRTsc.69$gZ4.123434@news.uswest.net,
> but <spamless@microsoft.net> wouldn't let me go...
>
> | Many of us find BOTTOM posting to be a pain. Shrug.
> |
> | Joseph P wrote:
> |
> || I was trying to save myself from
> || 4vLsc.60791$U4.7529@fe29.usenetserver.com,
> || but <noEmail@please.com> wouldn't let me go...
> ||
> |||
> |||
> ||| "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> ||| news:y5Lsc.60041$V_.2721315@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> |||| Can't get into the shop soon enough, and my TJ is my only
> |||| vehicle...needs opinions (fact would be better) as to how
> |||| long I can drive on the front axle. Read as: Rear
> |||| propeller shaft (driveshaft) removed from vehicle, transfer
> |||| case place in 4H.
> ||||
> ||
> ||| What bearings are bad?
> || Pinion bearings, maybe carrier as well, getting it rebuilt,
> || probably by Rob @ http://www.downeastoffroad.com/
> ||
> ||| Does removing the rear axle stop those bearings from moving?
> || No, but by doing so, and removing anykind of actual load from
> || those bearing, the noise has gone away, so I do indeed know
> || what the problem is.
> ||
> ||| Can you remove the driveline without losing fluid out of
> ||| your t
> || case?
> || Yes. 1998 Jeep Wrangler (did you look at sig?) NV231 TCase
> || (has splined output shaft.)
> ||
> || And don't top post, it is terrible netiquette
> ||
> ||||
> ||||
> |||| --
> |||| --
> |||| Joe Pribe
> |||| NC
> |||| jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com
> |||| jegp 'at' hotmail.com
> |||| ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
>
> You don't find the readability in better. Maybe you don't spend
> enough time on usenet to care...that's fine...as much as Bill posts
> though, I wish he would do it "properly." Of course, I am not
> twisting anyone's arm here, am I?
>
> --
> --
> Joe Pribe
> NC
> jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com
> jegp 'at' hotmail.com
> ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
>

SB

well, I thing the etiquette is stronger for bottom posters to trim the
messages they are replying to.
nothing worse than scrolling down pages of old messages to see a one line
reply.

Top posters can get away without trimming but should keep doing it.
anyone that's interested in the thread can google it I say!


"Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:s0Xsc.60540$V_.2806962@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> I was trying to save myself from MRTsc.69$gZ4.123434@news.uswest.net,
> but <spamless@microsoft.net> wouldn't let me go...
>
> | Many of us find BOTTOM posting to be a pain. Shrug.
> |
> | Joseph P wrote:
> |
> || I was trying to save myself from
> || 4vLsc.60791$U4.7529@fe29.usenetserver.com,
> || but <noEmail@please.com> wouldn't let me go...
> ||
> |||
> |||
> ||| "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> ||| news:y5Lsc.60041$V_.2721315@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> |||| Can't get into the shop soon enough, and my TJ is my only
> |||| vehicle...needs opinions (fact would be better) as to how
> |||| long I can drive on the front axle. Read as: Rear
> |||| propeller shaft (driveshaft) removed from vehicle, transfer
> |||| case place in 4H.
> ||||
> ||
> ||| What bearings are bad?
> || Pinion bearings, maybe carrier as well, getting it rebuilt,
> || probably by Rob @ http://www.downeastoffroad.com/
> ||
> ||| Does removing the rear axle stop those bearings from moving?
> || No, but by doing so, and removing anykind of actual load from
> || those bearing, the noise has gone away, so I do indeed know
> || what the problem is.
> ||
> ||| Can you remove the driveline without losing fluid out of
> ||| your t
> || case?
> || Yes. 1998 Jeep Wrangler (did you look at sig?) NV231 TCase
> || (has splined output shaft.)
> ||
> || And don't top post, it is terrible netiquette
> ||
> ||||
> ||||
> |||| --
> |||| --
> |||| Joe Pribe
> |||| NC
> |||| jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com
> |||| jegp 'at' hotmail.com
> |||| ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
>
> You don't find the readability in better. Maybe you don't spend
> enough time on usenet to care...that's fine...as much as Bill posts
> though, I wish he would do it "properly." Of course, I am not
> twisting anyone's arm here, am I?
>
> --
> --
> Joe Pribe
> NC
> jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com
> jegp 'at' hotmail.com
> ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
>

SB

well, I thing the etiquette is stronger for bottom posters to trim the
messages they are replying to.
nothing worse than scrolling down pages of old messages to see a one line
reply.

Top posters can get away without trimming but should keep doing it.
anyone that's interested in the thread can google it I say!


"Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:s0Xsc.60540$V_.2806962@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> I was trying to save myself from MRTsc.69$gZ4.123434@news.uswest.net,
> but <spamless@microsoft.net> wouldn't let me go...
>
> | Many of us find BOTTOM posting to be a pain. Shrug.
> |
> | Joseph P wrote:
> |
> || I was trying to save myself from
> || 4vLsc.60791$U4.7529@fe29.usenetserver.com,
> || but <noEmail@please.com> wouldn't let me go...
> ||
> |||
> |||
> ||| "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> ||| news:y5Lsc.60041$V_.2721315@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> |||| Can't get into the shop soon enough, and my TJ is my only
> |||| vehicle...needs opinions (fact would be better) as to how
> |||| long I can drive on the front axle. Read as: Rear
> |||| propeller shaft (driveshaft) removed from vehicle, transfer
> |||| case place in 4H.
> ||||
> ||
> ||| What bearings are bad?
> || Pinion bearings, maybe carrier as well, getting it rebuilt,
> || probably by Rob @ http://www.downeastoffroad.com/
> ||
> ||| Does removing the rear axle stop those bearings from moving?
> || No, but by doing so, and removing anykind of actual load from
> || those bearing, the noise has gone away, so I do indeed know
> || what the problem is.
> ||
> ||| Can you remove the driveline without losing fluid out of
> ||| your t
> || case?
> || Yes. 1998 Jeep Wrangler (did you look at sig?) NV231 TCase
> || (has splined output shaft.)
> ||
> || And don't top post, it is terrible netiquette
> ||
> ||||
> ||||
> |||| --
> |||| --
> |||| Joe Pribe
> |||| NC
> |||| jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com
> |||| jegp 'at' hotmail.com
> |||| ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
>
> You don't find the readability in better. Maybe you don't spend
> enough time on usenet to care...that's fine...as much as Bill posts
> though, I wish he would do it "properly." Of course, I am not
> twisting anyone's arm here, am I?
>
> --
> --
> Joe Pribe
> NC
> jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com
> jegp 'at' hotmail.com
> ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
>

SB

well, I thing the etiquette is stronger for bottom posters to trim the
messages they are replying to.
nothing worse than scrolling down pages of old messages to see a one line
reply.

Top posters can get away without trimming but should keep doing it.
anyone that's interested in the thread can google it I say!


"Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:s0Xsc.60540$V_.2806962@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> I was trying to save myself from MRTsc.69$gZ4.123434@news.uswest.net,
> but <spamless@microsoft.net> wouldn't let me go...
>
> | Many of us find BOTTOM posting to be a pain. Shrug.
> |
> | Joseph P wrote:
> |
> || I was trying to save myself from
> || 4vLsc.60791$U4.7529@fe29.usenetserver.com,
> || but <noEmail@please.com> wouldn't let me go...
> ||
> |||
> |||
> ||| "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> ||| news:y5Lsc.60041$V_.2721315@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> |||| Can't get into the shop soon enough, and my TJ is my only
> |||| vehicle...needs opinions (fact would be better) as to how
> |||| long I can drive on the front axle. Read as: Rear
> |||| propeller shaft (driveshaft) removed from vehicle, transfer
> |||| case place in 4H.
> ||||
> ||
> ||| What bearings are bad?
> || Pinion bearings, maybe carrier as well, getting it rebuilt,
> || probably by Rob @ http://www.downeastoffroad.com/
> ||
> ||| Does removing the rear axle stop those bearings from moving?
> || No, but by doing so, and removing anykind of actual load from
> || those bearing, the noise has gone away, so I do indeed know
> || what the problem is.
> ||
> ||| Can you remove the driveline without losing fluid out of
> ||| your t
> || case?
> || Yes. 1998 Jeep Wrangler (did you look at sig?) NV231 TCase
> || (has splined output shaft.)
> ||
> || And don't top post, it is terrible netiquette
> ||
> ||||
> ||||
> |||| --
> |||| --
> |||| Joe Pribe
> |||| NC
> |||| jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com
> |||| jegp 'at' hotmail.com
> |||| ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
>
> You don't find the readability in better. Maybe you don't spend
> enough time on usenet to care...that's fine...as much as Bill posts
> though, I wish he would do it "properly." Of course, I am not
> twisting anyone's arm here, am I?
>
> --
> --
> Joe Pribe
> NC
> jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com
> jegp 'at' hotmail.com
> ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
>

Steve

The slip yoke holds the t-case fluid in. When you remove your rear
shaft, there's nothing keeping the slip yoke in place, so it has to come
out too. You'll only lose a few drops when you pull the slip yoke out,
but once you start driving you'll lose enough to do major damage.

What you need to do is cap it off so you can drive it. I've used duct
tape and a soda can to get me home on several occasions.

You don't need a CJ to avoid this and many other shortcomings of the
slip yoke design:

http://www.stu-offroad.com/otherwriteups/sye/sye-1.htm

Steve

Joseph P wrote:
> Mike, how exactly would I lose the fluid? Rusty's posts aside, I am
> not trying to be a d!ck, maybe I am smoking something. Or, by telling
> me I should be losing fluid, you are really telling me I need a CJ.
> ;)
>

Steve

The slip yoke holds the t-case fluid in. When you remove your rear
shaft, there's nothing keeping the slip yoke in place, so it has to come
out too. You'll only lose a few drops when you pull the slip yoke out,
but once you start driving you'll lose enough to do major damage.

What you need to do is cap it off so you can drive it. I've used duct
tape and a soda can to get me home on several occasions.

You don't need a CJ to avoid this and many other shortcomings of the
slip yoke design:

http://www.stu-offroad.com/otherwriteups/sye/sye-1.htm

Steve

Joseph P wrote:
> Mike, how exactly would I lose the fluid? Rusty's posts aside, I am
> not trying to be a d!ck, maybe I am smoking something. Or, by telling
> me I should be losing fluid, you are really telling me I need a CJ.
> ;)
>

Steve

The slip yoke holds the t-case fluid in. When you remove your rear
shaft, there's nothing keeping the slip yoke in place, so it has to come
out too. You'll only lose a few drops when you pull the slip yoke out,
but once you start driving you'll lose enough to do major damage.

What you need to do is cap it off so you can drive it. I've used duct
tape and a soda can to get me home on several occasions.

You don't need a CJ to avoid this and many other shortcomings of the
slip yoke design:

http://www.stu-offroad.com/otherwriteups/sye/sye-1.htm

Steve

Joseph P wrote:
> Mike, how exactly would I lose the fluid? Rusty's posts aside, I am
> not trying to be a d!ck, maybe I am smoking something. Or, by telling
> me I should be losing fluid, you are really telling me I need a CJ.
> ;)
>

Steve

The slip yoke holds the t-case fluid in. When you remove your rear
shaft, there's nothing keeping the slip yoke in place, so it has to come
out too. You'll only lose a few drops when you pull the slip yoke out,
but once you start driving you'll lose enough to do major damage.

What you need to do is cap it off so you can drive it. I've used duct
tape and a soda can to get me home on several occasions.

You don't need a CJ to avoid this and many other shortcomings of the
slip yoke design:

http://www.stu-offroad.com/otherwriteups/sye/sye-1.htm

Steve

Joseph P wrote:
> Mike, how exactly would I lose the fluid? Rusty's posts aside, I am
> not trying to be a d!ck, maybe I am smoking something. Or, by telling
> me I should be losing fluid, you are really telling me I need a CJ.
> ;)
>

Roy J

Some of us use news readers that let us see the entire thread at
once and read the previous comments in logical rather than
chronological order. So unless the news feed is hose up (fairly
normal unfortenately), there is no real need to leave ANY of the
previous text in place.

And some of us have been reading NG's so long that we remember
when going from 14.4 to 28.8 meant you did not have to be so
fussy on what you snipped off.

And your point is?

Joseph P wrote:

> I was trying to save myself from MRTsc.69$gZ4.123434@news.uswest.net,
> but <spamless@microsoft.net> wouldn't let me go...
>
> | Many of us find BOTTOM posting to be a pain. Shrug.
> |
> | Joseph P wrote:
> |
> || I was trying to save myself from
> || 4vLsc.60791$U4.7529@fe29.usenetserver.com,
> || but <noEmail@please.com> wouldn't let me go...
> ||
> |||
> |||
> ||| "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> ||| news:y5Lsc.60041$V_.2721315@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> |||| Can't get into the shop soon enough, and my TJ is my only
> |||| vehicle...needs opinions (fact would be better) as to how
> |||| long I can drive on the front axle. Read as: Rear
> |||| propeller shaft (driveshaft) removed from vehicle, transfer
> |||| case place in 4H.
> ||||
> ||
> ||| What bearings are bad?
> || Pinion bearings, maybe carrier as well, getting it rebuilt,
> || probably by Rob @ http://www.downeastoffroad.com/
> ||
> ||| Does removing the rear axle stop those bearings from moving?
> || No, but by doing so, and removing anykind of actual load from
> || those bearing, the noise has gone away, so I do indeed know
> || what the problem is.
> ||
> ||| Can you remove the driveline without losing fluid out of
> ||| your t
> || case?
> || Yes. 1998 Jeep Wrangler (did you look at sig?) NV231 TCase
> || (has splined output shaft.)
> ||
> || And don't top post, it is terrible netiquette
> ||
> ||||
> ||||
> |||| --
> |||| --
> |||| Joe Pribe
> |||| NC
> |||| jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com
> |||| jegp 'at' hotmail.com
> |||| ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
>
> You don't find the readability in better. Maybe you don't spend
> enough time on usenet to care...that's fine...as much as Bill posts
> though, I wish he would do it "properly." Of course, I am not
> twisting anyone's arm here, am I?
>