Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 

On Feb 27, 6:33 pm, The Merg <greg.merg...@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:
> > You got 4.10 with an auto and 3.73 with a stick with a 4 banger in '97.
>
> ??? This is backwards from pretty much every other year then.
>
> Scott in Baltimore wrote:
> >> The 3.73 gears are to make up for the torque converter slippage, I think.
> >> The electric fan in mine "never" comes on while the vehicle is
> >> moving. Even
> >> in city driving or off road, 5 mph is enough to cool the engine. That is
> >> why you get an electric fan. Of course, it is all wasted if you don't
> >> set
> >> the thermostatic fan control properly. You can't blame the
> >> manufacturer for
> >> that. They do include proper instructions.
>
> >> Earle
>
> > You got 4.10 with an auto and 3.73 with a stick with a 4 banger in '97.

I requested a build sheet from DC which may answer the "as build"
question.
I wonder if back in '97 era someone ordered a vehicle they had an
option to pick certain gearing via a 'package group' or something(?)

I just can't see someone spending $400 to $1000 to regear from 4.10 to
3.73. Maybe they had to change both axles for some reason.

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 

That's what I'm thinking too, and backwards from what I said about the
torque converter. Don't worry, this is Usenet.

Earle

"The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
news:es2f3o$dob$1@aioe.org...
> > You got 4.10 with an auto and 3.73 with a stick with a 4 banger in '97.
>
> ??? This is backwards from pretty much every other year then.
>
> Scott in Baltimore wrote:
> >> The 3.73 gears are to make up for the torque converter slippage, I
think.
> >> The electric fan in mine "never" comes on while the vehicle is
> >> moving. Even
> >> in city driving or off road, 5 mph is enough to cool the engine. That
is
> >> why you get an electric fan. Of course, it is all wasted if you don't
> >> set
> >> the thermostatic fan control properly. You can't blame the
> >> manufacturer for
> >> that. They do include proper instructions.
> >>
> >> Earle
> >
> >
> > You got 4.10 with an auto and 3.73 with a stick with a 4 banger in '97.

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 

That's what I'm thinking too, and backwards from what I said about the
torque converter. Don't worry, this is Usenet.

Earle

"The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
news:es2f3o$dob$1@aioe.org...
> > You got 4.10 with an auto and 3.73 with a stick with a 4 banger in '97.
>
> ??? This is backwards from pretty much every other year then.
>
> Scott in Baltimore wrote:
> >> The 3.73 gears are to make up for the torque converter slippage, I
think.
> >> The electric fan in mine "never" comes on while the vehicle is
> >> moving. Even
> >> in city driving or off road, 5 mph is enough to cool the engine. That
is
> >> why you get an electric fan. Of course, it is all wasted if you don't
> >> set
> >> the thermostatic fan control properly. You can't blame the
> >> manufacturer for
> >> that. They do include proper instructions.
> >>
> >> Earle
> >
> >
> > You got 4.10 with an auto and 3.73 with a stick with a 4 banger in '97.

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 

That's what I'm thinking too, and backwards from what I said about the
torque converter. Don't worry, this is Usenet.

Earle

"The Merg" <greg.mergner@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
news:es2f3o$dob$1@aioe.org...
> > You got 4.10 with an auto and 3.73 with a stick with a 4 banger in '97.
>
> ??? This is backwards from pretty much every other year then.
>
> Scott in Baltimore wrote:
> >> The 3.73 gears are to make up for the torque converter slippage, I
think.
> >> The electric fan in mine "never" comes on while the vehicle is
> >> moving. Even
> >> in city driving or off road, 5 mph is enough to cool the engine. That
is
> >> why you get an electric fan. Of course, it is all wasted if you don't
> >> set
> >> the thermostatic fan control properly. You can't blame the
> >> manufacturer for
> >> that. They do include proper instructions.
> >>
> >> Earle
> >
> >
> > You got 4.10 with an auto and 3.73 with a stick with a 4 banger in '97.

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 

On Feb 27, 6:58 pm, hammertc2...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Feb 27, 6:33 pm, The Merg <greg.merg...@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > > You got 4.10 with an auto and 3.73 with a stick with a 4 banger in '97.
>
> > ??? This is backwards from pretty much every other year then.
>
> > Scott in Baltimore wrote:
> > >> The 3.73 gears are to make up for the torque converter slippage, I think.
> > >> The electric fan in mine "never" comes on while the vehicle is
> > >> moving. Even
> > >> in city driving or off road, 5 mph is enough to cool the engine. That is
> > >> why you get an electric fan. Of course, it is all wasted if you don't
> > >> set
> > >> the thermostatic fan control properly. You can't blame the
> > >> manufacturer for
> > >> that. They do include proper instructions.
>
> > >> Earle
>
> > > You got 4.10 with an auto and 3.73 with a stick with a 4 banger in '97.
>
> I requested a build sheet from DC which may answer the "as build"
> question.
> I wonder if back in '97 era someone ordered a vehicle they had an
> option to pick certain gearing via a 'package group' or something(?)
>
> I just can't see someone spending $400 to $1000 to regear from 4.10 to
> 3.73. Maybe they had to change both axles for some reason.

Just checked and I received the build sheet. Looks like I have the
stock gearing of 3.73.
Here's a portion cut-n-paste from the build sheet:
<snip>
DGA - All 3-Speed Automatic Transmissions
DGDS - 3-Spd. Automatic 30RH Transmission
DHAP - Lock-Up Torque Converter
DHNS - Command-Trac Part Time 4WD System
DJJS - Dana 30/186MM Front Axle
DMEP - 3.73 Axle Ratio
DRJS - Dana M35/194MM Rear Axle
EAAC - All Engines
EPE - 2.5L Power Tech I-4 Engine
<end snip>

Also, evidently it had floor mats too. Who knew.:)
TJ

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 

On Feb 27, 6:58 pm, hammertc2...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Feb 27, 6:33 pm, The Merg <greg.merg...@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > > You got 4.10 with an auto and 3.73 with a stick with a 4 banger in '97.
>
> > ??? This is backwards from pretty much every other year then.
>
> > Scott in Baltimore wrote:
> > >> The 3.73 gears are to make up for the torque converter slippage, I think.
> > >> The electric fan in mine "never" comes on while the vehicle is
> > >> moving. Even
> > >> in city driving or off road, 5 mph is enough to cool the engine. That is
> > >> why you get an electric fan. Of course, it is all wasted if you don't
> > >> set
> > >> the thermostatic fan control properly. You can't blame the
> > >> manufacturer for
> > >> that. They do include proper instructions.
>
> > >> Earle
>
> > > You got 4.10 with an auto and 3.73 with a stick with a 4 banger in '97.
>
> I requested a build sheet from DC which may answer the "as build"
> question.
> I wonder if back in '97 era someone ordered a vehicle they had an
> option to pick certain gearing via a 'package group' or something(?)
>
> I just can't see someone spending $400 to $1000 to regear from 4.10 to
> 3.73. Maybe they had to change both axles for some reason.

Just checked and I received the build sheet. Looks like I have the
stock gearing of 3.73.
Here's a portion cut-n-paste from the build sheet:
<snip>
DGA - All 3-Speed Automatic Transmissions
DGDS - 3-Spd. Automatic 30RH Transmission
DHAP - Lock-Up Torque Converter
DHNS - Command-Trac Part Time 4WD System
DJJS - Dana 30/186MM Front Axle
DMEP - 3.73 Axle Ratio
DRJS - Dana M35/194MM Rear Axle
EAAC - All Engines
EPE - 2.5L Power Tech I-4 Engine
<end snip>

Also, evidently it had floor mats too. Who knew.:)
TJ

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 

On Feb 27, 6:58 pm, hammertc2...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Feb 27, 6:33 pm, The Merg <greg.merg...@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > > You got 4.10 with an auto and 3.73 with a stick with a 4 banger in '97.
>
> > ??? This is backwards from pretty much every other year then.
>
> > Scott in Baltimore wrote:
> > >> The 3.73 gears are to make up for the torque converter slippage, I think.
> > >> The electric fan in mine "never" comes on while the vehicle is
> > >> moving. Even
> > >> in city driving or off road, 5 mph is enough to cool the engine. That is
> > >> why you get an electric fan. Of course, it is all wasted if you don't
> > >> set
> > >> the thermostatic fan control properly. You can't blame the
> > >> manufacturer for
> > >> that. They do include proper instructions.
>
> > >> Earle
>
> > > You got 4.10 with an auto and 3.73 with a stick with a 4 banger in '97.
>
> I requested a build sheet from DC which may answer the "as build"
> question.
> I wonder if back in '97 era someone ordered a vehicle they had an
> option to pick certain gearing via a 'package group' or something(?)
>
> I just can't see someone spending $400 to $1000 to regear from 4.10 to
> 3.73. Maybe they had to change both axles for some reason.

Just checked and I received the build sheet. Looks like I have the
stock gearing of 3.73.
Here's a portion cut-n-paste from the build sheet:
<snip>
DGA - All 3-Speed Automatic Transmissions
DGDS - 3-Spd. Automatic 30RH Transmission
DHAP - Lock-Up Torque Converter
DHNS - Command-Trac Part Time 4WD System
DJJS - Dana 30/186MM Front Axle
DMEP - 3.73 Axle Ratio
DRJS - Dana M35/194MM Rear Axle
EAAC - All Engines
EPE - 2.5L Power Tech I-4 Engine
<end snip>

Also, evidently it had floor mats too. Who knew.:)
TJ

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 

> Also, evidently it had floor mats too. Who knew.:)

My build sheet said I had tinted glass - I don't have it now, though.
I also have the 'deluxe insulation group', and my favorite, '9
additional gallons of gas'. Thanks, Chrysler!

hammertc2000@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Feb 27, 6:58 pm, hammertc2...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> On Feb 27, 6:33 pm, The Merg <greg.merg...@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> > You got 4.10 with an auto and 3.73 with a stick with a 4 banger in '97.
>>> ??? This is backwards from pretty much every other year then.
>>> Scott in Baltimore wrote:
>>>>> The 3.73 gears are to make up for the torque converter slippage, I think.
>>>>> The electric fan in mine "never" comes on while the vehicle is
>>>>> moving. Even
>>>>> in city driving or off road, 5 mph is enough to cool the engine. That is
>>>>> why you get an electric fan. Of course, it is all wasted if you don't
>>>>> set
>>>>> the thermostatic fan control properly. You can't blame the
>>>>> manufacturer for
>>>>> that. They do include proper instructions.
>>>>> Earle
>>>> You got 4.10 with an auto and 3.73 with a stick with a 4 banger in '97.
>> I requested a build sheet from DC which may answer the "as build"
>> question.
>> I wonder if back in '97 era someone ordered a vehicle they had an
>> option to pick certain gearing via a 'package group' or something(?)
>>
>> I just can't see someone spending $400 to $1000 to regear from 4.10 to
>> 3.73. Maybe they had to change both axles for some reason.
>
> Just checked and I received the build sheet. Looks like I have the
> stock gearing of 3.73.
> Here's a portion cut-n-paste from the build sheet:
> <snip>
> DGA - All 3-Speed Automatic Transmissions
> DGDS - 3-Spd. Automatic 30RH Transmission
> DHAP - Lock-Up Torque Converter
> DHNS - Command-Trac Part Time 4WD System
> DJJS - Dana 30/186MM Front Axle
> DMEP - 3.73 Axle Ratio
> DRJS - Dana M35/194MM Rear Axle
> EAAC - All Engines
> EPE - 2.5L Power Tech I-4 Engine
> <end snip>
>
> Also, evidently it had floor mats too. Who knew.:)
> TJ
>

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 

> Also, evidently it had floor mats too. Who knew.:)

My build sheet said I had tinted glass - I don't have it now, though.
I also have the 'deluxe insulation group', and my favorite, '9
additional gallons of gas'. Thanks, Chrysler!

hammertc2000@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Feb 27, 6:58 pm, hammertc2...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> On Feb 27, 6:33 pm, The Merg <greg.merg...@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> > You got 4.10 with an auto and 3.73 with a stick with a 4 banger in '97.
>>> ??? This is backwards from pretty much every other year then.
>>> Scott in Baltimore wrote:
>>>>> The 3.73 gears are to make up for the torque converter slippage, I think.
>>>>> The electric fan in mine "never" comes on while the vehicle is
>>>>> moving. Even
>>>>> in city driving or off road, 5 mph is enough to cool the engine. That is
>>>>> why you get an electric fan. Of course, it is all wasted if you don't
>>>>> set
>>>>> the thermostatic fan control properly. You can't blame the
>>>>> manufacturer for
>>>>> that. They do include proper instructions.
>>>>> Earle
>>>> You got 4.10 with an auto and 3.73 with a stick with a 4 banger in '97.
>> I requested a build sheet from DC which may answer the "as build"
>> question.
>> I wonder if back in '97 era someone ordered a vehicle they had an
>> option to pick certain gearing via a 'package group' or something(?)
>>
>> I just can't see someone spending $400 to $1000 to regear from 4.10 to
>> 3.73. Maybe they had to change both axles for some reason.
>
> Just checked and I received the build sheet. Looks like I have the
> stock gearing of 3.73.
> Here's a portion cut-n-paste from the build sheet:
> <snip>
> DGA - All 3-Speed Automatic Transmissions
> DGDS - 3-Spd. Automatic 30RH Transmission
> DHAP - Lock-Up Torque Converter
> DHNS - Command-Trac Part Time 4WD System
> DJJS - Dana 30/186MM Front Axle
> DMEP - 3.73 Axle Ratio
> DRJS - Dana M35/194MM Rear Axle
> EAAC - All Engines
> EPE - 2.5L Power Tech I-4 Engine
> <end snip>
>
> Also, evidently it had floor mats too. Who knew.:)
> TJ
>

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 

> Also, evidently it had floor mats too. Who knew.:)

My build sheet said I had tinted glass - I don't have it now, though.
I also have the 'deluxe insulation group', and my favorite, '9
additional gallons of gas'. Thanks, Chrysler!

hammertc2000@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Feb 27, 6:58 pm, hammertc2...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> On Feb 27, 6:33 pm, The Merg <greg.merg...@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> > You got 4.10 with an auto and 3.73 with a stick with a 4 banger in '97.
>>> ??? This is backwards from pretty much every other year then.
>>> Scott in Baltimore wrote:
>>>>> The 3.73 gears are to make up for the torque converter slippage, I think.
>>>>> The electric fan in mine "never" comes on while the vehicle is
>>>>> moving. Even
>>>>> in city driving or off road, 5 mph is enough to cool the engine. That is
>>>>> why you get an electric fan. Of course, it is all wasted if you don't
>>>>> set
>>>>> the thermostatic fan control properly. You can't blame the
>>>>> manufacturer for
>>>>> that. They do include proper instructions.
>>>>> Earle
>>>> You got 4.10 with an auto and 3.73 with a stick with a 4 banger in '97.
>> I requested a build sheet from DC which may answer the "as build"
>> question.
>> I wonder if back in '97 era someone ordered a vehicle they had an
>> option to pick certain gearing via a 'package group' or something(?)
>>
>> I just can't see someone spending $400 to $1000 to regear from 4.10 to
>> 3.73. Maybe they had to change both axles for some reason.
>
> Just checked and I received the build sheet. Looks like I have the
> stock gearing of 3.73.
> Here's a portion cut-n-paste from the build sheet:
> <snip>
> DGA - All 3-Speed Automatic Transmissions
> DGDS - 3-Spd. Automatic 30RH Transmission
> DHAP - Lock-Up Torque Converter
> DHNS - Command-Trac Part Time 4WD System
> DJJS - Dana 30/186MM Front Axle
> DMEP - 3.73 Axle Ratio
> DRJS - Dana M35/194MM Rear Axle
> EAAC - All Engines
> EPE - 2.5L Power Tech I-4 Engine
> <end snip>
>
> Also, evidently it had floor mats too. Who knew.:)
> TJ
>