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hammertc2000@yahoo.com 02-24-2007 12:40 PM

97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
hey all,

Last week purchased a 1997 Wrangler SE (2.5L), automatic
transmission. It has large 32" tires and lift kit.
Nice looking but performance is poor. If I could eek-out another
10-15 horsepower it would be much more drivable around town and on the
highway.
My questions are:
Does anyone have experience with performance mods; air-intake,
exhaust, etc. for the 2.5L 4cylinder?

Also, how can I tell what gear ratios I have? Judging from the
performance with the 32"'s I'm guessing I have the stock Dana 35's. ...
( 0-60 in about 5 minutes on flat ground. No chance of even hitting 60
on a hill :)

Any opinions on reputable/reliable JEEP performance parts places?

I have no books or documentation on my JEEP yet but I am learning
about it by trial and error!
Any help would be appreciated. Someday I will be able to give back!

TJ


Earle Horton 02-24-2007 01:06 PM

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
Put the stock tires back on it, and get rid of the auto.

Earle

<hammertc2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1172338827.293900.19070@a75g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
> hey all,
>
> Last week purchased a 1997 Wrangler SE (2.5L), automatic
> transmission. It has large 32" tires and lift kit.
> Nice looking but performance is poor. If I could eek-out another
> 10-15 horsepower it would be much more drivable around town and on the
> highway.
> My questions are:
> Does anyone have experience with performance mods; air-intake,
> exhaust, etc. for the 2.5L 4cylinder?
>
> Also, how can I tell what gear ratios I have? Judging from the
> performance with the 32"'s I'm guessing I have the stock Dana 35's. ...
> ( 0-60 in about 5 minutes on flat ground. No chance of even hitting 60
> on a hill :)
>
> Any opinions on reputable/reliable JEEP performance parts places?
>
> I have no books or documentation on my JEEP yet but I am learning
> about it by trial and error!
> Any help would be appreciated. Someday I will be able to give back!
>
> TJ
>




Earle Horton 02-24-2007 01:06 PM

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
Put the stock tires back on it, and get rid of the auto.

Earle

<hammertc2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1172338827.293900.19070@a75g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
> hey all,
>
> Last week purchased a 1997 Wrangler SE (2.5L), automatic
> transmission. It has large 32" tires and lift kit.
> Nice looking but performance is poor. If I could eek-out another
> 10-15 horsepower it would be much more drivable around town and on the
> highway.
> My questions are:
> Does anyone have experience with performance mods; air-intake,
> exhaust, etc. for the 2.5L 4cylinder?
>
> Also, how can I tell what gear ratios I have? Judging from the
> performance with the 32"'s I'm guessing I have the stock Dana 35's. ...
> ( 0-60 in about 5 minutes on flat ground. No chance of even hitting 60
> on a hill :)
>
> Any opinions on reputable/reliable JEEP performance parts places?
>
> I have no books or documentation on my JEEP yet but I am learning
> about it by trial and error!
> Any help would be appreciated. Someday I will be able to give back!
>
> TJ
>




Earle Horton 02-24-2007 01:06 PM

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
Put the stock tires back on it, and get rid of the auto.

Earle

<hammertc2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1172338827.293900.19070@a75g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
> hey all,
>
> Last week purchased a 1997 Wrangler SE (2.5L), automatic
> transmission. It has large 32" tires and lift kit.
> Nice looking but performance is poor. If I could eek-out another
> 10-15 horsepower it would be much more drivable around town and on the
> highway.
> My questions are:
> Does anyone have experience with performance mods; air-intake,
> exhaust, etc. for the 2.5L 4cylinder?
>
> Also, how can I tell what gear ratios I have? Judging from the
> performance with the 32"'s I'm guessing I have the stock Dana 35's. ...
> ( 0-60 in about 5 minutes on flat ground. No chance of even hitting 60
> on a hill :)
>
> Any opinions on reputable/reliable JEEP performance parts places?
>
> I have no books or documentation on my JEEP yet but I am learning
> about it by trial and error!
> Any help would be appreciated. Someday I will be able to give back!
>
> TJ
>




hammertc2000@yahoo.com 02-24-2007 02:16 PM

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
On Feb 24, 1:06 pm, "Earle Horton" <graci...@usa.com> wrote:
> Put the stock tires back on it, and get rid of the auto.
>
> Earle
>
> <hammertc2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1172338827.293900.19070@a75g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > hey all,

>
> > Last week purchased a 1997 Wrangler SE (2.5L), automatic
> > transmission. It has large 32" tires and lift kit.
> > Nice looking butperformanceis poor. If I could eek-out another
> > 10-15 horsepower it would be much more drivable around town and on the
> > highway.
> > My questions are:
> > Does anyone have experience withperformancemods; air-intake,
> > exhaust, etc. for the 2.5L 4cylinder?

>
> > Also, how can I tell what gear ratios I have? Judging from the
> >performancewith the 32"'s I'm guessing I have the stock Dana 35's. ...
> > ( 0-60 in about 5 minutes on flat ground. No chance of even hitting 60
> > on a hill :)

>
> > Any opinions on reputable/reliable JEEPperformanceparts places?

>
> > I have no books or documentation on my JEEP yet but I am learning
> > about it by trial and error!
> > Any help would be appreciated. Someday I will be able to give back!

>
> > TJ


Yes, I guess your right, getting rid of the auto trans and the 32's
would improve performance :)
Unfortunately, getting rid of the auto trans is not an option as I
only have one leg to drive with. As for the tires...well...I'd like
to keep them. So any performance minor mods available while still
keeping the auto and 32's?

Thanks,
TJ


hammertc2000@yahoo.com 02-24-2007 02:16 PM

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
On Feb 24, 1:06 pm, "Earle Horton" <graci...@usa.com> wrote:
> Put the stock tires back on it, and get rid of the auto.
>
> Earle
>
> <hammertc2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1172338827.293900.19070@a75g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > hey all,

>
> > Last week purchased a 1997 Wrangler SE (2.5L), automatic
> > transmission. It has large 32" tires and lift kit.
> > Nice looking butperformanceis poor. If I could eek-out another
> > 10-15 horsepower it would be much more drivable around town and on the
> > highway.
> > My questions are:
> > Does anyone have experience withperformancemods; air-intake,
> > exhaust, etc. for the 2.5L 4cylinder?

>
> > Also, how can I tell what gear ratios I have? Judging from the
> >performancewith the 32"'s I'm guessing I have the stock Dana 35's. ...
> > ( 0-60 in about 5 minutes on flat ground. No chance of even hitting 60
> > on a hill :)

>
> > Any opinions on reputable/reliable JEEPperformanceparts places?

>
> > I have no books or documentation on my JEEP yet but I am learning
> > about it by trial and error!
> > Any help would be appreciated. Someday I will be able to give back!

>
> > TJ


Yes, I guess your right, getting rid of the auto trans and the 32's
would improve performance :)
Unfortunately, getting rid of the auto trans is not an option as I
only have one leg to drive with. As for the tires...well...I'd like
to keep them. So any performance minor mods available while still
keeping the auto and 32's?

Thanks,
TJ


hammertc2000@yahoo.com 02-24-2007 02:16 PM

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
On Feb 24, 1:06 pm, "Earle Horton" <graci...@usa.com> wrote:
> Put the stock tires back on it, and get rid of the auto.
>
> Earle
>
> <hammertc2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1172338827.293900.19070@a75g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > hey all,

>
> > Last week purchased a 1997 Wrangler SE (2.5L), automatic
> > transmission. It has large 32" tires and lift kit.
> > Nice looking butperformanceis poor. If I could eek-out another
> > 10-15 horsepower it would be much more drivable around town and on the
> > highway.
> > My questions are:
> > Does anyone have experience withperformancemods; air-intake,
> > exhaust, etc. for the 2.5L 4cylinder?

>
> > Also, how can I tell what gear ratios I have? Judging from the
> >performancewith the 32"'s I'm guessing I have the stock Dana 35's. ...
> > ( 0-60 in about 5 minutes on flat ground. No chance of even hitting 60
> > on a hill :)

>
> > Any opinions on reputable/reliable JEEPperformanceparts places?

>
> > I have no books or documentation on my JEEP yet but I am learning
> > about it by trial and error!
> > Any help would be appreciated. Someday I will be able to give back!

>
> > TJ


Yes, I guess your right, getting rid of the auto trans and the 32's
would improve performance :)
Unfortunately, getting rid of the auto trans is not an option as I
only have one leg to drive with. As for the tires...well...I'd like
to keep them. So any performance minor mods available while still
keeping the auto and 32's?

Thanks,
TJ


Earle Horton 02-24-2007 02:31 PM

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
<hammertc2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1172344565.073873.112240@8g2000cwh.googlegrou ps.com...
....
> Yes, I guess your right, getting rid of the auto trans and the 32's
> would improve performance :)
> Unfortunately, getting rid of the auto trans is not an option as I
> only have one leg to drive with. As for the tires...well...I'd like
> to keep them. So any performance minor mods available while
> still keeping the auto and 32's?
>

Cat-back exhaust and 4.0 liter throttle body won't set you back much,
especially since exhaust doesn't last forever. I found on mine that the
mileage improved more than the power from engine mods. What you really need
to do is regear the axles.

Earle



Earle Horton 02-24-2007 02:31 PM

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
<hammertc2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1172344565.073873.112240@8g2000cwh.googlegrou ps.com...
....
> Yes, I guess your right, getting rid of the auto trans and the 32's
> would improve performance :)
> Unfortunately, getting rid of the auto trans is not an option as I
> only have one leg to drive with. As for the tires...well...I'd like
> to keep them. So any performance minor mods available while
> still keeping the auto and 32's?
>

Cat-back exhaust and 4.0 liter throttle body won't set you back much,
especially since exhaust doesn't last forever. I found on mine that the
mileage improved more than the power from engine mods. What you really need
to do is regear the axles.

Earle



Earle Horton 02-24-2007 02:31 PM

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
<hammertc2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1172344565.073873.112240@8g2000cwh.googlegrou ps.com...
....
> Yes, I guess your right, getting rid of the auto trans and the 32's
> would improve performance :)
> Unfortunately, getting rid of the auto trans is not an option as I
> only have one leg to drive with. As for the tires...well...I'd like
> to keep them. So any performance minor mods available while
> still keeping the auto and 32's?
>

Cat-back exhaust and 4.0 liter throttle body won't set you back much,
especially since exhaust doesn't last forever. I found on mine that the
mileage improved more than the power from engine mods. What you really need
to do is regear the axles.

Earle



billy ray 02-24-2007 03:41 PM

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
And the re-gearing will run $400-$500 for parts and that same amount for
labor.

None of the other 'bolt-on" products will get you the necessary power out of
the 2.5 liter engine.

Your differentials should have a tag that shows the gear ratio, if not you
can get a "Build Sheet" from your corner DC dealership... all you need to
provide them is the Jeep VIN number.

Build Sheet:

http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...Build%20Sheet/


Axle ID and Gear Charts
http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...06/Axle%20IDs/

Once you know your stock gear ratio there are charts to point out the
appropriate new ratio given your new tire size to regain 'stock'
performance.



"Earle Horton" <gracioso@usa.com> wrote in message
news:45e091d0$0$26585$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> <hammertc2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1172344565.073873.112240@8g2000cwh.googlegrou ps.com...
> ...
>> Yes, I guess your right, getting rid of the auto trans and the 32's
>> would improve performance :)
>> Unfortunately, getting rid of the auto trans is not an option as I
>> only have one leg to drive with. As for the tires...well...I'd like
>> to keep them. So any performance minor mods available while
>> still keeping the auto and 32's?
>>

> Cat-back exhaust and 4.0 liter throttle body won't set you back much,
> especially since exhaust doesn't last forever. I found on mine that the
> mileage improved more than the power from engine mods. What you really
> need
> to do is regear the axles.
>
> Earle
>
>




billy ray 02-24-2007 03:41 PM

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
And the re-gearing will run $400-$500 for parts and that same amount for
labor.

None of the other 'bolt-on" products will get you the necessary power out of
the 2.5 liter engine.

Your differentials should have a tag that shows the gear ratio, if not you
can get a "Build Sheet" from your corner DC dealership... all you need to
provide them is the Jeep VIN number.

Build Sheet:

http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...Build%20Sheet/


Axle ID and Gear Charts
http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...06/Axle%20IDs/

Once you know your stock gear ratio there are charts to point out the
appropriate new ratio given your new tire size to regain 'stock'
performance.



"Earle Horton" <gracioso@usa.com> wrote in message
news:45e091d0$0$26585$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> <hammertc2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1172344565.073873.112240@8g2000cwh.googlegrou ps.com...
> ...
>> Yes, I guess your right, getting rid of the auto trans and the 32's
>> would improve performance :)
>> Unfortunately, getting rid of the auto trans is not an option as I
>> only have one leg to drive with. As for the tires...well...I'd like
>> to keep them. So any performance minor mods available while
>> still keeping the auto and 32's?
>>

> Cat-back exhaust and 4.0 liter throttle body won't set you back much,
> especially since exhaust doesn't last forever. I found on mine that the
> mileage improved more than the power from engine mods. What you really
> need
> to do is regear the axles.
>
> Earle
>
>




billy ray 02-24-2007 03:41 PM

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
And the re-gearing will run $400-$500 for parts and that same amount for
labor.

None of the other 'bolt-on" products will get you the necessary power out of
the 2.5 liter engine.

Your differentials should have a tag that shows the gear ratio, if not you
can get a "Build Sheet" from your corner DC dealership... all you need to
provide them is the Jeep VIN number.

Build Sheet:

http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...Build%20Sheet/


Axle ID and Gear Charts
http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...06/Axle%20IDs/

Once you know your stock gear ratio there are charts to point out the
appropriate new ratio given your new tire size to regain 'stock'
performance.



"Earle Horton" <gracioso@usa.com> wrote in message
news:45e091d0$0$26585$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> <hammertc2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1172344565.073873.112240@8g2000cwh.googlegrou ps.com...
> ...
>> Yes, I guess your right, getting rid of the auto trans and the 32's
>> would improve performance :)
>> Unfortunately, getting rid of the auto trans is not an option as I
>> only have one leg to drive with. As for the tires...well...I'd like
>> to keep them. So any performance minor mods available while
>> still keeping the auto and 32's?
>>

> Cat-back exhaust and 4.0 liter throttle body won't set you back much,
> especially since exhaust doesn't last forever. I found on mine that the
> mileage improved more than the power from engine mods. What you really
> need
> to do is regear the axles.
>
> Earle
>
>




hammertc2000@yahoo.com 02-24-2007 03:49 PM

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
On Feb 24, 2:31 pm, "Earle Horton" <graci...@usa.com> wrote:
> <hammertc2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1172344565.073873.112240@8g2000cwh.googlegrou ps.com...
> ...> Yes, I guess your right, getting rid of the auto trans and the 32's
> > would improveperformance:)
> > Unfortunately, getting rid of the auto trans is not an option as I
> > only have one leg to drive with. As for the tires...well...I'd like
> > to keep them. So anyperformanceminor mods available while
> > still keeping the auto and 32's?

>
> Cat-back exhaust and 4.0 liter throttle body won't set you back much,
> especially since exhaust doesn't last forever. I found on mine that the
> mileage improved more than the power from engine mods. What you really need
> to do is regear the axles.
>
> Earle


Good point about the exhaust. Better gas mileage wouldn't hurt
either. Worth the try at least.
Regearing the axles does make the most sense. I just need to figure
out what I have and how to change them. I'm not looking for much
performance gain.

Thank you for your advise. I much appreciated it.
TJ


hammertc2000@yahoo.com 02-24-2007 03:49 PM

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
On Feb 24, 2:31 pm, "Earle Horton" <graci...@usa.com> wrote:
> <hammertc2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1172344565.073873.112240@8g2000cwh.googlegrou ps.com...
> ...> Yes, I guess your right, getting rid of the auto trans and the 32's
> > would improveperformance:)
> > Unfortunately, getting rid of the auto trans is not an option as I
> > only have one leg to drive with. As for the tires...well...I'd like
> > to keep them. So anyperformanceminor mods available while
> > still keeping the auto and 32's?

>
> Cat-back exhaust and 4.0 liter throttle body won't set you back much,
> especially since exhaust doesn't last forever. I found on mine that the
> mileage improved more than the power from engine mods. What you really need
> to do is regear the axles.
>
> Earle


Good point about the exhaust. Better gas mileage wouldn't hurt
either. Worth the try at least.
Regearing the axles does make the most sense. I just need to figure
out what I have and how to change them. I'm not looking for much
performance gain.

Thank you for your advise. I much appreciated it.
TJ


hammertc2000@yahoo.com 02-24-2007 03:49 PM

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
On Feb 24, 2:31 pm, "Earle Horton" <graci...@usa.com> wrote:
> <hammertc2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1172344565.073873.112240@8g2000cwh.googlegrou ps.com...
> ...> Yes, I guess your right, getting rid of the auto trans and the 32's
> > would improveperformance:)
> > Unfortunately, getting rid of the auto trans is not an option as I
> > only have one leg to drive with. As for the tires...well...I'd like
> > to keep them. So anyperformanceminor mods available while
> > still keeping the auto and 32's?

>
> Cat-back exhaust and 4.0 liter throttle body won't set you back much,
> especially since exhaust doesn't last forever. I found on mine that the
> mileage improved more than the power from engine mods. What you really need
> to do is regear the axles.
>
> Earle


Good point about the exhaust. Better gas mileage wouldn't hurt
either. Worth the try at least.
Regearing the axles does make the most sense. I just need to figure
out what I have and how to change them. I'm not looking for much
performance gain.

Thank you for your advise. I much appreciated it.
TJ


hammertc2000@yahoo.com 02-24-2007 03:53 PM

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
On Feb 24, 3:41 pm, "billy ray" <billy_...@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
> And the re-gearing will run $400-$500 for parts and that same amount for
> labor.
>
> None of the other 'bolt-on" products will get you the necessary power out of
> the 2.5 liter engine.
>
> Your differentials should have a tag that shows the gear ratio, if not you
> can get a "Build Sheet" from your corner DC dealership... all you need to
> provide them is the Jeep VIN number.
>
> Build Sheet:
>
> http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...Build%20Sheet/
>
> Axle ID and Gear Chartshttp://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n171/Billy_Ray_2006/Axle%20IDs/
>
> Once you know your stock gear ratio there are charts to point out the
> appropriate new ratio given your new tire size to regain 'stock'performance.
>
> "Earle Horton" <graci...@usa.com> wrote in message
>
> news:45e091d0$0$26585$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>
> > <hammertc2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:1172344565.073873.112240@8g2000cwh.googlegro ups.com...
> > ...
> >> Yes, I guess your right, getting rid of the auto trans and the 32's
> >> would improveperformance:)
> >> Unfortunately, getting rid of the auto trans is not an option as I
> >> only have one leg to drive with. As for the tires...well...I'd like
> >> to keep them. So anyperformanceminor mods available while
> >> still keeping the auto and 32's?

>
> > Cat-back exhaust and 4.0 liter throttle body won't set you back much,
> > especially since exhaust doesn't last forever. I found on mine that the
> > mileage improved more than the power from engine mods. What you really
> > need
> > to do is regear the axles.

>
> > Earle


Very cool. Good info. Thank you!
TJ


hammertc2000@yahoo.com 02-24-2007 03:53 PM

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
On Feb 24, 3:41 pm, "billy ray" <billy_...@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
> And the re-gearing will run $400-$500 for parts and that same amount for
> labor.
>
> None of the other 'bolt-on" products will get you the necessary power out of
> the 2.5 liter engine.
>
> Your differentials should have a tag that shows the gear ratio, if not you
> can get a "Build Sheet" from your corner DC dealership... all you need to
> provide them is the Jeep VIN number.
>
> Build Sheet:
>
> http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...Build%20Sheet/
>
> Axle ID and Gear Chartshttp://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n171/Billy_Ray_2006/Axle%20IDs/
>
> Once you know your stock gear ratio there are charts to point out the
> appropriate new ratio given your new tire size to regain 'stock'performance.
>
> "Earle Horton" <graci...@usa.com> wrote in message
>
> news:45e091d0$0$26585$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>
> > <hammertc2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:1172344565.073873.112240@8g2000cwh.googlegro ups.com...
> > ...
> >> Yes, I guess your right, getting rid of the auto trans and the 32's
> >> would improveperformance:)
> >> Unfortunately, getting rid of the auto trans is not an option as I
> >> only have one leg to drive with. As for the tires...well...I'd like
> >> to keep them. So anyperformanceminor mods available while
> >> still keeping the auto and 32's?

>
> > Cat-back exhaust and 4.0 liter throttle body won't set you back much,
> > especially since exhaust doesn't last forever. I found on mine that the
> > mileage improved more than the power from engine mods. What you really
> > need
> > to do is regear the axles.

>
> > Earle


Very cool. Good info. Thank you!
TJ


hammertc2000@yahoo.com 02-24-2007 03:53 PM

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
On Feb 24, 3:41 pm, "billy ray" <billy_...@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
> And the re-gearing will run $400-$500 for parts and that same amount for
> labor.
>
> None of the other 'bolt-on" products will get you the necessary power out of
> the 2.5 liter engine.
>
> Your differentials should have a tag that shows the gear ratio, if not you
> can get a "Build Sheet" from your corner DC dealership... all you need to
> provide them is the Jeep VIN number.
>
> Build Sheet:
>
> http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...Build%20Sheet/
>
> Axle ID and Gear Chartshttp://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n171/Billy_Ray_2006/Axle%20IDs/
>
> Once you know your stock gear ratio there are charts to point out the
> appropriate new ratio given your new tire size to regain 'stock'performance.
>
> "Earle Horton" <graci...@usa.com> wrote in message
>
> news:45e091d0$0$26585$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>
> > <hammertc2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:1172344565.073873.112240@8g2000cwh.googlegro ups.com...
> > ...
> >> Yes, I guess your right, getting rid of the auto trans and the 32's
> >> would improveperformance:)
> >> Unfortunately, getting rid of the auto trans is not an option as I
> >> only have one leg to drive with. As for the tires...well...I'd like
> >> to keep them. So anyperformanceminor mods available while
> >> still keeping the auto and 32's?

>
> > Cat-back exhaust and 4.0 liter throttle body won't set you back much,
> > especially since exhaust doesn't last forever. I found on mine that the
> > mileage improved more than the power from engine mods. What you really
> > need
> > to do is regear the axles.

>
> > Earle


Very cool. Good info. Thank you!
TJ


Matt Macchiarolo 02-24-2007 05:04 PM

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
Normally the 2.5L engine with a manual will be geared at 4.10's, but I guess
they may have 3.07's with the automatic (the auto 4.0L does). You would want
to get at least 4.10 gears. If you already have 4.10 gears, consider 4.56.

Your transmission doesn't have an overdrive, so after you regear get used to
your tach being at around 3000RPM at highway speeds and your gas mileage
going south.

You'll also need to replace your speedometer sender gear with one that will
compensate for the new gears. The shop doing the gears can do it.

<hammertc2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1172350151.251419.221200@m58g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com...
> On Feb 24, 2:31 pm, "Earle Horton" <graci...@usa.com> wrote:
>> <hammertc2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1172344565.073873.112240@8g2000cwh.googlegrou ps.com...
>> ...> Yes, I guess your right, getting rid of the auto trans and the 32's
>> > would improveperformance:)
>> > Unfortunately, getting rid of the auto trans is not an option as I
>> > only have one leg to drive with. As for the tires...well...I'd like
>> > to keep them. So anyperformanceminor mods available while
>> > still keeping the auto and 32's?

>>
>> Cat-back exhaust and 4.0 liter throttle body won't set you back much,
>> especially since exhaust doesn't last forever. I found on mine that the
>> mileage improved more than the power from engine mods. What you really
>> need
>> to do is regear the axles.
>>
>> Earle

>
> Good point about the exhaust. Better gas mileage wouldn't hurt
> either. Worth the try at least.
> Regearing the axles does make the most sense. I just need to figure
> out what I have and how to change them. I'm not looking for much
> performance gain.
>
> Thank you for your advise. I much appreciated it.
> TJ
>




Matt Macchiarolo 02-24-2007 05:04 PM

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
Normally the 2.5L engine with a manual will be geared at 4.10's, but I guess
they may have 3.07's with the automatic (the auto 4.0L does). You would want
to get at least 4.10 gears. If you already have 4.10 gears, consider 4.56.

Your transmission doesn't have an overdrive, so after you regear get used to
your tach being at around 3000RPM at highway speeds and your gas mileage
going south.

You'll also need to replace your speedometer sender gear with one that will
compensate for the new gears. The shop doing the gears can do it.

<hammertc2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1172350151.251419.221200@m58g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com...
> On Feb 24, 2:31 pm, "Earle Horton" <graci...@usa.com> wrote:
>> <hammertc2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1172344565.073873.112240@8g2000cwh.googlegrou ps.com...
>> ...> Yes, I guess your right, getting rid of the auto trans and the 32's
>> > would improveperformance:)
>> > Unfortunately, getting rid of the auto trans is not an option as I
>> > only have one leg to drive with. As for the tires...well...I'd like
>> > to keep them. So anyperformanceminor mods available while
>> > still keeping the auto and 32's?

>>
>> Cat-back exhaust and 4.0 liter throttle body won't set you back much,
>> especially since exhaust doesn't last forever. I found on mine that the
>> mileage improved more than the power from engine mods. What you really
>> need
>> to do is regear the axles.
>>
>> Earle

>
> Good point about the exhaust. Better gas mileage wouldn't hurt
> either. Worth the try at least.
> Regearing the axles does make the most sense. I just need to figure
> out what I have and how to change them. I'm not looking for much
> performance gain.
>
> Thank you for your advise. I much appreciated it.
> TJ
>




Matt Macchiarolo 02-24-2007 05:04 PM

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
Normally the 2.5L engine with a manual will be geared at 4.10's, but I guess
they may have 3.07's with the automatic (the auto 4.0L does). You would want
to get at least 4.10 gears. If you already have 4.10 gears, consider 4.56.

Your transmission doesn't have an overdrive, so after you regear get used to
your tach being at around 3000RPM at highway speeds and your gas mileage
going south.

You'll also need to replace your speedometer sender gear with one that will
compensate for the new gears. The shop doing the gears can do it.

<hammertc2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1172350151.251419.221200@m58g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com...
> On Feb 24, 2:31 pm, "Earle Horton" <graci...@usa.com> wrote:
>> <hammertc2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1172344565.073873.112240@8g2000cwh.googlegrou ps.com...
>> ...> Yes, I guess your right, getting rid of the auto trans and the 32's
>> > would improveperformance:)
>> > Unfortunately, getting rid of the auto trans is not an option as I
>> > only have one leg to drive with. As for the tires...well...I'd like
>> > to keep them. So anyperformanceminor mods available while
>> > still keeping the auto and 32's?

>>
>> Cat-back exhaust and 4.0 liter throttle body won't set you back much,
>> especially since exhaust doesn't last forever. I found on mine that the
>> mileage improved more than the power from engine mods. What you really
>> need
>> to do is regear the axles.
>>
>> Earle

>
> Good point about the exhaust. Better gas mileage wouldn't hurt
> either. Worth the try at least.
> Regearing the axles does make the most sense. I just need to figure
> out what I have and how to change them. I'm not looking for much
> performance gain.
>
> Thank you for your advise. I much appreciated it.
> TJ
>




philthy 02-24-2007 05:09 PM

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
a performence 2.5 jeep motor is a oxymoron

hammertc2000@yahoo.com wrote:

> hey all,
>
> Last week purchased a 1997 Wrangler SE (2.5L), automatic
> transmission. It has large 32" tires and lift kit.
> Nice looking but performance is poor. If I could eek-out another
> 10-15 horsepower it would be much more drivable around town and on the
> highway.
> My questions are:
> Does anyone have experience with performance mods; air-intake,
> exhaust, etc. for the 2.5L 4cylinder?
>
> Also, how can I tell what gear ratios I have? Judging from the
> performance with the 32"'s I'm guessing I have the stock Dana 35's. ...
> ( 0-60 in about 5 minutes on flat ground. No chance of even hitting 60
> on a hill :)
>
> Any opinions on reputable/reliable JEEP performance parts places?
>
> I have no books or documentation on my JEEP yet but I am learning
> about it by trial and error!
> Any help would be appreciated. Someday I will be able to give back!
>
> TJ



philthy 02-24-2007 05:09 PM

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
a performence 2.5 jeep motor is a oxymoron

hammertc2000@yahoo.com wrote:

> hey all,
>
> Last week purchased a 1997 Wrangler SE (2.5L), automatic
> transmission. It has large 32" tires and lift kit.
> Nice looking but performance is poor. If I could eek-out another
> 10-15 horsepower it would be much more drivable around town and on the
> highway.
> My questions are:
> Does anyone have experience with performance mods; air-intake,
> exhaust, etc. for the 2.5L 4cylinder?
>
> Also, how can I tell what gear ratios I have? Judging from the
> performance with the 32"'s I'm guessing I have the stock Dana 35's. ...
> ( 0-60 in about 5 minutes on flat ground. No chance of even hitting 60
> on a hill :)
>
> Any opinions on reputable/reliable JEEP performance parts places?
>
> I have no books or documentation on my JEEP yet but I am learning
> about it by trial and error!
> Any help would be appreciated. Someday I will be able to give back!
>
> TJ



philthy 02-24-2007 05:09 PM

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
a performence 2.5 jeep motor is a oxymoron

hammertc2000@yahoo.com wrote:

> hey all,
>
> Last week purchased a 1997 Wrangler SE (2.5L), automatic
> transmission. It has large 32" tires and lift kit.
> Nice looking but performance is poor. If I could eek-out another
> 10-15 horsepower it would be much more drivable around town and on the
> highway.
> My questions are:
> Does anyone have experience with performance mods; air-intake,
> exhaust, etc. for the 2.5L 4cylinder?
>
> Also, how can I tell what gear ratios I have? Judging from the
> performance with the 32"'s I'm guessing I have the stock Dana 35's. ...
> ( 0-60 in about 5 minutes on flat ground. No chance of even hitting 60
> on a hill :)
>
> Any opinions on reputable/reliable JEEP performance parts places?
>
> I have no books or documentation on my JEEP yet but I am learning
> about it by trial and error!
> Any help would be appreciated. Someday I will be able to give back!
>
> TJ



L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 02-24-2007 05:29 PM

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
You can't have performance and 32" tires.
You should have 4.10 gear ratio stock, as the four banger can't pull
anything more.
The Chevy small block or Vortex where made for you car, via
http://www.advanceadapters.com/catalog/003.html
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

<hammertc2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1172350151.251419.221200@m58g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com
>
> Good point about the exhaust. Better gas mileage wouldn't hurt
> either. Worth the try at least.
> Regearing the axles does make the most sense. I just need to figure
> out what I have and how to change them. I'm not looking for much
> performance gain.
>
> Thank you for your advise. I much appreciated it.
> TJ
>




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 02-24-2007 05:29 PM

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
You can't have performance and 32" tires.
You should have 4.10 gear ratio stock, as the four banger can't pull
anything more.
The Chevy small block or Vortex where made for you car, via
http://www.advanceadapters.com/catalog/003.html
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

<hammertc2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1172350151.251419.221200@m58g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com
>
> Good point about the exhaust. Better gas mileage wouldn't hurt
> either. Worth the try at least.
> Regearing the axles does make the most sense. I just need to figure
> out what I have and how to change them. I'm not looking for much
> performance gain.
>
> Thank you for your advise. I much appreciated it.
> TJ
>




--
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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 02-24-2007 05:29 PM

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
You can't have performance and 32" tires.
You should have 4.10 gear ratio stock, as the four banger can't pull
anything more.
The Chevy small block or Vortex where made for you car, via
http://www.advanceadapters.com/catalog/003.html
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

<hammertc2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1172350151.251419.221200@m58g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com
>
> Good point about the exhaust. Better gas mileage wouldn't hurt
> either. Worth the try at least.
> Regearing the axles does make the most sense. I just need to figure
> out what I have and how to change them. I'm not looking for much
> performance gain.
>
> Thank you for your advise. I much appreciated it.
> TJ
>




--
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Carl S 02-25-2007 02:55 PM

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
You have 4.10 gearing. 4.56 will return some performance and gas mileage.
Get the 4.56 gears, cat-back and 4.0 throttle body, and be happy.

FWIW, my 89 YJ 2.5L pushed my 33's around town and on the highway with no
problems, but it was a five speed. The 2.5L is a great engine.

HTH

Carl


<hammertc2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1172350151.251419.221200@m58g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com...
> On Feb 24, 2:31 pm, "Earle Horton" <graci...@usa.com> wrote:
>> <hammertc2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1172344565.073873.112240@8g2000cwh.googlegrou ps.com...
>> ...> Yes, I guess your right, getting rid of the auto trans and the 32's
>> > would improveperformance:)
>> > Unfortunately, getting rid of the auto trans is not an option as I
>> > only have one leg to drive with. As for the tires...well...I'd like
>> > to keep them. So anyperformanceminor mods available while
>> > still keeping the auto and 32's?

>>
>> Cat-back exhaust and 4.0 liter throttle body won't set you back much,
>> especially since exhaust doesn't last forever. I found on mine that the
>> mileage improved more than the power from engine mods. What you really
>> need
>> to do is regear the axles.
>>
>> Earle

>
> Good point about the exhaust. Better gas mileage wouldn't hurt
> either. Worth the try at least.
> Regearing the axles does make the most sense. I just need to figure
> out what I have and how to change them. I'm not looking for much
> performance gain.
>
> Thank you for your advise. I much appreciated it.
> TJ
>




Carl S 02-25-2007 02:55 PM

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
You have 4.10 gearing. 4.56 will return some performance and gas mileage.
Get the 4.56 gears, cat-back and 4.0 throttle body, and be happy.

FWIW, my 89 YJ 2.5L pushed my 33's around town and on the highway with no
problems, but it was a five speed. The 2.5L is a great engine.

HTH

Carl


<hammertc2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1172350151.251419.221200@m58g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com...
> On Feb 24, 2:31 pm, "Earle Horton" <graci...@usa.com> wrote:
>> <hammertc2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1172344565.073873.112240@8g2000cwh.googlegrou ps.com...
>> ...> Yes, I guess your right, getting rid of the auto trans and the 32's
>> > would improveperformance:)
>> > Unfortunately, getting rid of the auto trans is not an option as I
>> > only have one leg to drive with. As for the tires...well...I'd like
>> > to keep them. So anyperformanceminor mods available while
>> > still keeping the auto and 32's?

>>
>> Cat-back exhaust and 4.0 liter throttle body won't set you back much,
>> especially since exhaust doesn't last forever. I found on mine that the
>> mileage improved more than the power from engine mods. What you really
>> need
>> to do is regear the axles.
>>
>> Earle

>
> Good point about the exhaust. Better gas mileage wouldn't hurt
> either. Worth the try at least.
> Regearing the axles does make the most sense. I just need to figure
> out what I have and how to change them. I'm not looking for much
> performance gain.
>
> Thank you for your advise. I much appreciated it.
> TJ
>




Carl S 02-25-2007 02:55 PM

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
You have 4.10 gearing. 4.56 will return some performance and gas mileage.
Get the 4.56 gears, cat-back and 4.0 throttle body, and be happy.

FWIW, my 89 YJ 2.5L pushed my 33's around town and on the highway with no
problems, but it was a five speed. The 2.5L is a great engine.

HTH

Carl


<hammertc2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1172350151.251419.221200@m58g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com...
> On Feb 24, 2:31 pm, "Earle Horton" <graci...@usa.com> wrote:
>> <hammertc2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1172344565.073873.112240@8g2000cwh.googlegrou ps.com...
>> ...> Yes, I guess your right, getting rid of the auto trans and the 32's
>> > would improveperformance:)
>> > Unfortunately, getting rid of the auto trans is not an option as I
>> > only have one leg to drive with. As for the tires...well...I'd like
>> > to keep them. So anyperformanceminor mods available while
>> > still keeping the auto and 32's?

>>
>> Cat-back exhaust and 4.0 liter throttle body won't set you back much,
>> especially since exhaust doesn't last forever. I found on mine that the
>> mileage improved more than the power from engine mods. What you really
>> need
>> to do is regear the axles.
>>
>> Earle

>
> Good point about the exhaust. Better gas mileage wouldn't hurt
> either. Worth the try at least.
> Regearing the axles does make the most sense. I just need to figure
> out what I have and how to change them. I'm not looking for much
> performance gain.
>
> Thank you for your advise. I much appreciated it.
> TJ
>




hammertc2000@yahoo.com 02-25-2007 03:50 PM

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
On Feb 25, 2:55 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
> You have 4.10 gearing. 4.56 will return someperformanceand gas mileage.
> Get the 4.56 gears, cat-back and 4.0 throttle body, and be happy.
>
> FWIW, my 89 YJ 2.5L pushed my 33's around town and on the highway with no
> problems, but it was a five speed. The 2.5L is a great engine.
>
> HTH
>
> Carl
>
> <hammertc2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1172350151.251419.221200@m58g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Feb 24, 2:31 pm, "Earle Horton" <graci...@usa.com> wrote:
> >> <hammertc2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>
> >>news:1172344565.073873.112240@8g2000cwh.googlegr oups.com...
> >> ...> Yes, I guess your right, getting rid of the auto trans and the 32's
> >> > would improveperformance:)
> >> > Unfortunately, getting rid of the auto trans is not an option as I
> >> > only have one leg to drive with. As for the tires...well...I'd like
> >> > to keep them. So anyperformanceminor mods available while
> >> > still keeping the auto and 32's?

>
> >> Cat-back exhaust and 4.0 liter throttle body won't set you back much,
> >> especially since exhaust doesn't last forever. I found on mine that the
> >> mileage improved more than the power from engine mods. What you really
> >> need
> >> to do is regear the axles.

>
> >> Earle

>
> > Good point about the exhaust. Better gas mileage wouldn't hurt
> > either. Worth the try at least.
> > Regearing the axles does make the most sense. I just need to figure
> > out what I have and how to change them. I'm not looking for much
> >performancegain.

>
> > Thank you for your advise. I much appreciated it.
> > TJ- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


I requested a build sheet from DaimlerChrysler. This should help.

In the meantime, I looked today at the rear differential cover. It
definately has Dana on it. Also, it is a small metal tag with stamped
numbers:
52111763
3 73 5957 <--I'm thinking this means 3.73 but am not sure. I
will take the cover off and see what's inside for sure. Don't know if
the previous owner(s) did any mods besides the tires and lift kit.
First, I guess, I'll need to go get some pumpkin juice for it.

I took the TJ out on the highway today. Got it upto 60MPH (on the
speedo), tacking approx 2700, I completed a mile in about 53 seconds.
I did this for (5) miles straight...each mile 53 seconds on a
stopwatch. Not real scientific.
I guess I was actually doing 68MPH. Good thing the speed limit on
that stretch is 70.
TJ



hammertc2000@yahoo.com 02-25-2007 03:50 PM

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
On Feb 25, 2:55 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
> You have 4.10 gearing. 4.56 will return someperformanceand gas mileage.
> Get the 4.56 gears, cat-back and 4.0 throttle body, and be happy.
>
> FWIW, my 89 YJ 2.5L pushed my 33's around town and on the highway with no
> problems, but it was a five speed. The 2.5L is a great engine.
>
> HTH
>
> Carl
>
> <hammertc2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1172350151.251419.221200@m58g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Feb 24, 2:31 pm, "Earle Horton" <graci...@usa.com> wrote:
> >> <hammertc2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>
> >>news:1172344565.073873.112240@8g2000cwh.googlegr oups.com...
> >> ...> Yes, I guess your right, getting rid of the auto trans and the 32's
> >> > would improveperformance:)
> >> > Unfortunately, getting rid of the auto trans is not an option as I
> >> > only have one leg to drive with. As for the tires...well...I'd like
> >> > to keep them. So anyperformanceminor mods available while
> >> > still keeping the auto and 32's?

>
> >> Cat-back exhaust and 4.0 liter throttle body won't set you back much,
> >> especially since exhaust doesn't last forever. I found on mine that the
> >> mileage improved more than the power from engine mods. What you really
> >> need
> >> to do is regear the axles.

>
> >> Earle

>
> > Good point about the exhaust. Better gas mileage wouldn't hurt
> > either. Worth the try at least.
> > Regearing the axles does make the most sense. I just need to figure
> > out what I have and how to change them. I'm not looking for much
> >performancegain.

>
> > Thank you for your advise. I much appreciated it.
> > TJ- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


I requested a build sheet from DaimlerChrysler. This should help.

In the meantime, I looked today at the rear differential cover. It
definately has Dana on it. Also, it is a small metal tag with stamped
numbers:
52111763
3 73 5957 <--I'm thinking this means 3.73 but am not sure. I
will take the cover off and see what's inside for sure. Don't know if
the previous owner(s) did any mods besides the tires and lift kit.
First, I guess, I'll need to go get some pumpkin juice for it.

I took the TJ out on the highway today. Got it upto 60MPH (on the
speedo), tacking approx 2700, I completed a mile in about 53 seconds.
I did this for (5) miles straight...each mile 53 seconds on a
stopwatch. Not real scientific.
I guess I was actually doing 68MPH. Good thing the speed limit on
that stretch is 70.
TJ



hammertc2000@yahoo.com 02-25-2007 03:50 PM

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
On Feb 25, 2:55 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
> You have 4.10 gearing. 4.56 will return someperformanceand gas mileage.
> Get the 4.56 gears, cat-back and 4.0 throttle body, and be happy.
>
> FWIW, my 89 YJ 2.5L pushed my 33's around town and on the highway with no
> problems, but it was a five speed. The 2.5L is a great engine.
>
> HTH
>
> Carl
>
> <hammertc2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1172350151.251419.221200@m58g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Feb 24, 2:31 pm, "Earle Horton" <graci...@usa.com> wrote:
> >> <hammertc2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>
> >>news:1172344565.073873.112240@8g2000cwh.googlegr oups.com...
> >> ...> Yes, I guess your right, getting rid of the auto trans and the 32's
> >> > would improveperformance:)
> >> > Unfortunately, getting rid of the auto trans is not an option as I
> >> > only have one leg to drive with. As for the tires...well...I'd like
> >> > to keep them. So anyperformanceminor mods available while
> >> > still keeping the auto and 32's?

>
> >> Cat-back exhaust and 4.0 liter throttle body won't set you back much,
> >> especially since exhaust doesn't last forever. I found on mine that the
> >> mileage improved more than the power from engine mods. What you really
> >> need
> >> to do is regear the axles.

>
> >> Earle

>
> > Good point about the exhaust. Better gas mileage wouldn't hurt
> > either. Worth the try at least.
> > Regearing the axles does make the most sense. I just need to figure
> > out what I have and how to change them. I'm not looking for much
> >performancegain.

>
> > Thank you for your advise. I much appreciated it.
> > TJ- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


I requested a build sheet from DaimlerChrysler. This should help.

In the meantime, I looked today at the rear differential cover. It
definately has Dana on it. Also, it is a small metal tag with stamped
numbers:
52111763
3 73 5957 <--I'm thinking this means 3.73 but am not sure. I
will take the cover off and see what's inside for sure. Don't know if
the previous owner(s) did any mods besides the tires and lift kit.
First, I guess, I'll need to go get some pumpkin juice for it.

I took the TJ out on the highway today. Got it upto 60MPH (on the
speedo), tacking approx 2700, I completed a mile in about 53 seconds.
I did this for (5) miles straight...each mile 53 seconds on a
stopwatch. Not real scientific.
I guess I was actually doing 68MPH. Good thing the speed limit on
that stretch is 70.
TJ



Carl S 02-25-2007 04:32 PM

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
4.10 is your gear ratio.

Carl


<hammertc2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1172436642.446836.46100@s48g2000cws.googlegro ups.com...
> On Feb 25, 2:55 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> You have 4.10 gearing. 4.56 will return someperformanceand gas mileage.
>> Get the 4.56 gears, cat-back and 4.0 throttle body, and be happy.
>>
>> FWIW, my 89 YJ 2.5L pushed my 33's around town and on the highway with no
>> problems, but it was a five speed. The 2.5L is a great engine.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> <hammertc2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1172350151.251419.221200@m58g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Feb 24, 2:31 pm, "Earle Horton" <graci...@usa.com> wrote:
>> >> <hammertc2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>>
>> >>news:1172344565.073873.112240@8g2000cwh.googlegr oups.com...
>> >> ...> Yes, I guess your right, getting rid of the auto trans and the
>> >> 32's
>> >> > would improveperformance:)
>> >> > Unfortunately, getting rid of the auto trans is not an option as I
>> >> > only have one leg to drive with. As for the tires...well...I'd like
>> >> > to keep them. So anyperformanceminor mods available while
>> >> > still keeping the auto and 32's?

>>
>> >> Cat-back exhaust and 4.0 liter throttle body won't set you back much,
>> >> especially since exhaust doesn't last forever. I found on mine that
>> >> the
>> >> mileage improved more than the power from engine mods. What you
>> >> really
>> >> need
>> >> to do is regear the axles.

>>
>> >> Earle

>>
>> > Good point about the exhaust. Better gas mileage wouldn't hurt
>> > either. Worth the try at least.
>> > Regearing the axles does make the most sense. I just need to figure
>> > out what I have and how to change them. I'm not looking for much
>> >performancegain.

>>
>> > Thank you for your advise. I much appreciated it.
>> > TJ- Hide quoted text -

>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
> I requested a build sheet from DaimlerChrysler. This should help.
>
> In the meantime, I looked today at the rear differential cover. It
> definately has Dana on it. Also, it is a small metal tag with stamped
> numbers:
> 52111763
> 3 73 5957 <--I'm thinking this means 3.73 but am not sure. I
> will take the cover off and see what's inside for sure. Don't know if
> the previous owner(s) did any mods besides the tires and lift kit.
> First, I guess, I'll need to go get some pumpkin juice for it.
>
> I took the TJ out on the highway today. Got it upto 60MPH (on the
> speedo), tacking approx 2700, I completed a mile in about 53 seconds.
> I did this for (5) miles straight...each mile 53 seconds on a
> stopwatch. Not real scientific.
> I guess I was actually doing 68MPH. Good thing the speed limit on
> that stretch is 70.
> TJ
>
>




Carl S 02-25-2007 04:32 PM

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
4.10 is your gear ratio.

Carl


<hammertc2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1172436642.446836.46100@s48g2000cws.googlegro ups.com...
> On Feb 25, 2:55 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> You have 4.10 gearing. 4.56 will return someperformanceand gas mileage.
>> Get the 4.56 gears, cat-back and 4.0 throttle body, and be happy.
>>
>> FWIW, my 89 YJ 2.5L pushed my 33's around town and on the highway with no
>> problems, but it was a five speed. The 2.5L is a great engine.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> <hammertc2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1172350151.251419.221200@m58g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Feb 24, 2:31 pm, "Earle Horton" <graci...@usa.com> wrote:
>> >> <hammertc2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>>
>> >>news:1172344565.073873.112240@8g2000cwh.googlegr oups.com...
>> >> ...> Yes, I guess your right, getting rid of the auto trans and the
>> >> 32's
>> >> > would improveperformance:)
>> >> > Unfortunately, getting rid of the auto trans is not an option as I
>> >> > only have one leg to drive with. As for the tires...well...I'd like
>> >> > to keep them. So anyperformanceminor mods available while
>> >> > still keeping the auto and 32's?

>>
>> >> Cat-back exhaust and 4.0 liter throttle body won't set you back much,
>> >> especially since exhaust doesn't last forever. I found on mine that
>> >> the
>> >> mileage improved more than the power from engine mods. What you
>> >> really
>> >> need
>> >> to do is regear the axles.

>>
>> >> Earle

>>
>> > Good point about the exhaust. Better gas mileage wouldn't hurt
>> > either. Worth the try at least.
>> > Regearing the axles does make the most sense. I just need to figure
>> > out what I have and how to change them. I'm not looking for much
>> >performancegain.

>>
>> > Thank you for your advise. I much appreciated it.
>> > TJ- Hide quoted text -

>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
> I requested a build sheet from DaimlerChrysler. This should help.
>
> In the meantime, I looked today at the rear differential cover. It
> definately has Dana on it. Also, it is a small metal tag with stamped
> numbers:
> 52111763
> 3 73 5957 <--I'm thinking this means 3.73 but am not sure. I
> will take the cover off and see what's inside for sure. Don't know if
> the previous owner(s) did any mods besides the tires and lift kit.
> First, I guess, I'll need to go get some pumpkin juice for it.
>
> I took the TJ out on the highway today. Got it upto 60MPH (on the
> speedo), tacking approx 2700, I completed a mile in about 53 seconds.
> I did this for (5) miles straight...each mile 53 seconds on a
> stopwatch. Not real scientific.
> I guess I was actually doing 68MPH. Good thing the speed limit on
> that stretch is 70.
> TJ
>
>




Carl S 02-25-2007 04:32 PM

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
4.10 is your gear ratio.

Carl


<hammertc2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1172436642.446836.46100@s48g2000cws.googlegro ups.com...
> On Feb 25, 2:55 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> You have 4.10 gearing. 4.56 will return someperformanceand gas mileage.
>> Get the 4.56 gears, cat-back and 4.0 throttle body, and be happy.
>>
>> FWIW, my 89 YJ 2.5L pushed my 33's around town and on the highway with no
>> problems, but it was a five speed. The 2.5L is a great engine.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> <hammertc2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1172350151.251419.221200@m58g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Feb 24, 2:31 pm, "Earle Horton" <graci...@usa.com> wrote:
>> >> <hammertc2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>>
>> >>news:1172344565.073873.112240@8g2000cwh.googlegr oups.com...
>> >> ...> Yes, I guess your right, getting rid of the auto trans and the
>> >> 32's
>> >> > would improveperformance:)
>> >> > Unfortunately, getting rid of the auto trans is not an option as I
>> >> > only have one leg to drive with. As for the tires...well...I'd like
>> >> > to keep them. So anyperformanceminor mods available while
>> >> > still keeping the auto and 32's?

>>
>> >> Cat-back exhaust and 4.0 liter throttle body won't set you back much,
>> >> especially since exhaust doesn't last forever. I found on mine that
>> >> the
>> >> mileage improved more than the power from engine mods. What you
>> >> really
>> >> need
>> >> to do is regear the axles.

>>
>> >> Earle

>>
>> > Good point about the exhaust. Better gas mileage wouldn't hurt
>> > either. Worth the try at least.
>> > Regearing the axles does make the most sense. I just need to figure
>> > out what I have and how to change them. I'm not looking for much
>> >performancegain.

>>
>> > Thank you for your advise. I much appreciated it.
>> > TJ- Hide quoted text -

>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
> I requested a build sheet from DaimlerChrysler. This should help.
>
> In the meantime, I looked today at the rear differential cover. It
> definately has Dana on it. Also, it is a small metal tag with stamped
> numbers:
> 52111763
> 3 73 5957 <--I'm thinking this means 3.73 but am not sure. I
> will take the cover off and see what's inside for sure. Don't know if
> the previous owner(s) did any mods besides the tires and lift kit.
> First, I guess, I'll need to go get some pumpkin juice for it.
>
> I took the TJ out on the highway today. Got it upto 60MPH (on the
> speedo), tacking approx 2700, I completed a mile in about 53 seconds.
> I did this for (5) miles straight...each mile 53 seconds on a
> stopwatch. Not real scientific.
> I guess I was actually doing 68MPH. Good thing the speed limit on
> that stretch is 70.
> TJ
>
>




Mike Romain 02-25-2007 05:57 PM

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
hammertc2000@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Feb 25, 2:55 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> You have 4.10 gearing. 4.56 will return someperformanceand gas mileage.
>> Get the 4.56 gears, cat-back and 4.0 throttle body, and be happy.
>>
>> FWIW, my 89 YJ 2.5L pushed my 33's around town and on the highway with no
>> problems, but it was a five speed. The 2.5L is a great engine.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> <hammertc2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1172350151.251419.221200@m58g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 24, 2:31 pm, "Earle Horton" <graci...@usa.com> wrote:
>>>> <hammertc2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1172344565.073873.112240@8g2000cwh.googlegrou ps.com...
>>>> ...> Yes, I guess your right, getting rid of the auto trans and the 32's
>>>>> would improveperformance:)
>>>>> Unfortunately, getting rid of the auto trans is not an option as I
>>>>> only have one leg to drive with. As for the tires...well...I'd like
>>>>> to keep them. So anyperformanceminor mods available while
>>>>> still keeping the auto and 32's?
>>>> Cat-back exhaust and 4.0 liter throttle body won't set you back much,
>>>> especially since exhaust doesn't last forever. I found on mine that the
>>>> mileage improved more than the power from engine mods. What you really
>>>> need
>>>> to do is regear the axles.
>>>> Earle
>>> Good point about the exhaust. Better gas mileage wouldn't hurt
>>> either. Worth the try at least.
>>> Regearing the axles does make the most sense. I just need to figure
>>> out what I have and how to change them. I'm not looking for much
>>> performancegain.
>>> Thank you for your advise. I much appreciated it.
>>> TJ- Hide quoted text -

>> - Show quoted text -

>
> I requested a build sheet from DaimlerChrysler. This should help.
>
> In the meantime, I looked today at the rear differential cover. It
> definately has Dana on it. Also, it is a small metal tag with stamped
> numbers:
> 52111763
> 3 73 5957 <--I'm thinking this means 3.73 but am not sure. I
> will take the cover off and see what's inside for sure. Don't know if
> the previous owner(s) did any mods besides the tires and lift kit.
> First, I guess, I'll need to go get some pumpkin juice for it.
>
> I took the TJ out on the highway today. Got it upto 60MPH (on the
> speedo), tacking approx 2700, I completed a mile in about 53 seconds.
> I did this for (5) miles straight...each mile 53 seconds on a
> stopwatch. Not real scientific.
> I guess I was actually doing 68MPH. Good thing the speed limit on
> that stretch is 70.
> TJ
>
>


You can just jack up one wheel and turn it twice while counting the
number of turns the driveshaft turns. Marking both the driveshaft and
wheel with chalk helps count.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 02-25-2007 05:57 PM

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
hammertc2000@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Feb 25, 2:55 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> You have 4.10 gearing. 4.56 will return someperformanceand gas mileage.
>> Get the 4.56 gears, cat-back and 4.0 throttle body, and be happy.
>>
>> FWIW, my 89 YJ 2.5L pushed my 33's around town and on the highway with no
>> problems, but it was a five speed. The 2.5L is a great engine.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> <hammertc2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1172350151.251419.221200@m58g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 24, 2:31 pm, "Earle Horton" <graci...@usa.com> wrote:
>>>> <hammertc2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1172344565.073873.112240@8g2000cwh.googlegrou ps.com...
>>>> ...> Yes, I guess your right, getting rid of the auto trans and the 32's
>>>>> would improveperformance:)
>>>>> Unfortunately, getting rid of the auto trans is not an option as I
>>>>> only have one leg to drive with. As for the tires...well...I'd like
>>>>> to keep them. So anyperformanceminor mods available while
>>>>> still keeping the auto and 32's?
>>>> Cat-back exhaust and 4.0 liter throttle body won't set you back much,
>>>> especially since exhaust doesn't last forever. I found on mine that the
>>>> mileage improved more than the power from engine mods. What you really
>>>> need
>>>> to do is regear the axles.
>>>> Earle
>>> Good point about the exhaust. Better gas mileage wouldn't hurt
>>> either. Worth the try at least.
>>> Regearing the axles does make the most sense. I just need to figure
>>> out what I have and how to change them. I'm not looking for much
>>> performancegain.
>>> Thank you for your advise. I much appreciated it.
>>> TJ- Hide quoted text -

>> - Show quoted text -

>
> I requested a build sheet from DaimlerChrysler. This should help.
>
> In the meantime, I looked today at the rear differential cover. It
> definately has Dana on it. Also, it is a small metal tag with stamped
> numbers:
> 52111763
> 3 73 5957 <--I'm thinking this means 3.73 but am not sure. I
> will take the cover off and see what's inside for sure. Don't know if
> the previous owner(s) did any mods besides the tires and lift kit.
> First, I guess, I'll need to go get some pumpkin juice for it.
>
> I took the TJ out on the highway today. Got it upto 60MPH (on the
> speedo), tacking approx 2700, I completed a mile in about 53 seconds.
> I did this for (5) miles straight...each mile 53 seconds on a
> stopwatch. Not real scientific.
> I guess I was actually doing 68MPH. Good thing the speed limit on
> that stretch is 70.
> TJ
>
>


You can just jack up one wheel and turn it twice while counting the
number of turns the driveshaft turns. Marking both the driveshaft and
wheel with chalk helps count.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 02-25-2007 05:57 PM

Re: 97 TJ 2.5L performance parts
 
hammertc2000@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Feb 25, 2:55 pm, "Carl S" <carlsai...@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>> You have 4.10 gearing. 4.56 will return someperformanceand gas mileage.
>> Get the 4.56 gears, cat-back and 4.0 throttle body, and be happy.
>>
>> FWIW, my 89 YJ 2.5L pushed my 33's around town and on the highway with no
>> problems, but it was a five speed. The 2.5L is a great engine.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> <hammertc2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1172350151.251419.221200@m58g2000cwm.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 24, 2:31 pm, "Earle Horton" <graci...@usa.com> wrote:
>>>> <hammertc2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1172344565.073873.112240@8g2000cwh.googlegrou ps.com...
>>>> ...> Yes, I guess your right, getting rid of the auto trans and the 32's
>>>>> would improveperformance:)
>>>>> Unfortunately, getting rid of the auto trans is not an option as I
>>>>> only have one leg to drive with. As for the tires...well...I'd like
>>>>> to keep them. So anyperformanceminor mods available while
>>>>> still keeping the auto and 32's?
>>>> Cat-back exhaust and 4.0 liter throttle body won't set you back much,
>>>> especially since exhaust doesn't last forever. I found on mine that the
>>>> mileage improved more than the power from engine mods. What you really
>>>> need
>>>> to do is regear the axles.
>>>> Earle
>>> Good point about the exhaust. Better gas mileage wouldn't hurt
>>> either. Worth the try at least.
>>> Regearing the axles does make the most sense. I just need to figure
>>> out what I have and how to change them. I'm not looking for much
>>> performancegain.
>>> Thank you for your advise. I much appreciated it.
>>> TJ- Hide quoted text -

>> - Show quoted text -

>
> I requested a build sheet from DaimlerChrysler. This should help.
>
> In the meantime, I looked today at the rear differential cover. It
> definately has Dana on it. Also, it is a small metal tag with stamped
> numbers:
> 52111763
> 3 73 5957 <--I'm thinking this means 3.73 but am not sure. I
> will take the cover off and see what's inside for sure. Don't know if
> the previous owner(s) did any mods besides the tires and lift kit.
> First, I guess, I'll need to go get some pumpkin juice for it.
>
> I took the TJ out on the highway today. Got it upto 60MPH (on the
> speedo), tacking approx 2700, I completed a mile in about 53 seconds.
> I did this for (5) miles straight...each mile 53 seconds on a
> stopwatch. Not real scientific.
> I guess I was actually doing 68MPH. Good thing the speed limit on
> that stretch is 70.
> TJ
>
>


You can just jack up one wheel and turn it twice while counting the
number of turns the driveshaft turns. Marking both the driveshaft and
wheel with chalk helps count.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


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