87 YJ
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Re: 87 YJ magically turned into a '92 XJ
Carl wrote:
> I'll take a shackle lift over a body lift any day. Body lift is ugly as
> hell, even at 1". Booo for body lift.
>
> Carl
I agree my boss had a 1.5 inch shackle lift on his YJ that cleared 31's
without rubbing that lasted 40k miles or more before the POS 258 gave up
around 125k... the lift was fine even on old original leafs. It never
had an alignment problem. I had roughly the same shackle lift on my YJ
for 2 years and probably 35k miles without a single problem (it later
got a real spring lift to clear 33"s and later still some Heavy duty
slightly longer than stock shackles (1/2" lift) to clear 35"s
No 1.5 inch lift should have problems... if you couldn't lift it that
far without needing to correct castor or drive line angles then we'd
have millions of old Jeeps that can't be aligned because the old springs
settled an inch and a half. Mike loves making mountains out of mole hills.
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
> I'll take a shackle lift over a body lift any day. Body lift is ugly as
> hell, even at 1". Booo for body lift.
>
> Carl
I agree my boss had a 1.5 inch shackle lift on his YJ that cleared 31's
without rubbing that lasted 40k miles or more before the POS 258 gave up
around 125k... the lift was fine even on old original leafs. It never
had an alignment problem. I had roughly the same shackle lift on my YJ
for 2 years and probably 35k miles without a single problem (it later
got a real spring lift to clear 33"s and later still some Heavy duty
slightly longer than stock shackles (1/2" lift) to clear 35"s
No 1.5 inch lift should have problems... if you couldn't lift it that
far without needing to correct castor or drive line angles then we'd
have millions of old Jeeps that can't be aligned because the old springs
settled an inch and a half. Mike loves making mountains out of mole hills.
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
#212
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Re: 87 YJ magically turned into a '92 XJ
That is absolutely correct. My YJ had the shackles before I did the
spring-over, and was aligned just fine. Check out
http://s33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/
for pics of the old YJ to see the shackles. Just make sure they're cross
braced and one piece and you'll be fine.
Carl
"Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
message news:I4CdnZHzEp2ZhAXYnZ2dnUVZ_oqmnZ2d@rcn.net...
> Carl wrote:
>> I'll take a shackle lift over a body lift any day. Body lift is ugly as
>> hell, even at 1". Booo for body lift.
>>
>> Carl
>
> I agree my boss had a 1.5 inch shackle lift on his YJ that cleared 31's
> without rubbing that lasted 40k miles or more before the POS 258 gave up
> around 125k... the lift was fine even on old original leafs. It never had
> an alignment problem. I had roughly the same shackle lift on my YJ for 2
> years and probably 35k miles without a single problem (it later got a real
> spring lift to clear 33"s and later still some Heavy duty slightly longer
> than stock shackles (1/2" lift) to clear 35"s
>
> No 1.5 inch lift should have problems... if you couldn't lift it that far
> without needing to correct castor or drive line angles then we'd have
> millions of old Jeeps that can't be aligned because the old springs
> settled an inch and a half. Mike loves making mountains out of mole hills.
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
spring-over, and was aligned just fine. Check out
http://s33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/
for pics of the old YJ to see the shackles. Just make sure they're cross
braced and one piece and you'll be fine.
Carl
"Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
message news:I4CdnZHzEp2ZhAXYnZ2dnUVZ_oqmnZ2d@rcn.net...
> Carl wrote:
>> I'll take a shackle lift over a body lift any day. Body lift is ugly as
>> hell, even at 1". Booo for body lift.
>>
>> Carl
>
> I agree my boss had a 1.5 inch shackle lift on his YJ that cleared 31's
> without rubbing that lasted 40k miles or more before the POS 258 gave up
> around 125k... the lift was fine even on old original leafs. It never had
> an alignment problem. I had roughly the same shackle lift on my YJ for 2
> years and probably 35k miles without a single problem (it later got a real
> spring lift to clear 33"s and later still some Heavy duty slightly longer
> than stock shackles (1/2" lift) to clear 35"s
>
> No 1.5 inch lift should have problems... if you couldn't lift it that far
> without needing to correct castor or drive line angles then we'd have
> millions of old Jeeps that can't be aligned because the old springs
> settled an inch and a half. Mike loves making mountains out of mole hills.
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
#213
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Re: 87 YJ magically turned into a '92 XJ
That is absolutely correct. My YJ had the shackles before I did the
spring-over, and was aligned just fine. Check out
http://s33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/
for pics of the old YJ to see the shackles. Just make sure they're cross
braced and one piece and you'll be fine.
Carl
"Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
message news:I4CdnZHzEp2ZhAXYnZ2dnUVZ_oqmnZ2d@rcn.net...
> Carl wrote:
>> I'll take a shackle lift over a body lift any day. Body lift is ugly as
>> hell, even at 1". Booo for body lift.
>>
>> Carl
>
> I agree my boss had a 1.5 inch shackle lift on his YJ that cleared 31's
> without rubbing that lasted 40k miles or more before the POS 258 gave up
> around 125k... the lift was fine even on old original leafs. It never had
> an alignment problem. I had roughly the same shackle lift on my YJ for 2
> years and probably 35k miles without a single problem (it later got a real
> spring lift to clear 33"s and later still some Heavy duty slightly longer
> than stock shackles (1/2" lift) to clear 35"s
>
> No 1.5 inch lift should have problems... if you couldn't lift it that far
> without needing to correct castor or drive line angles then we'd have
> millions of old Jeeps that can't be aligned because the old springs
> settled an inch and a half. Mike loves making mountains out of mole hills.
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
spring-over, and was aligned just fine. Check out
http://s33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/
for pics of the old YJ to see the shackles. Just make sure they're cross
braced and one piece and you'll be fine.
Carl
"Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
message news:I4CdnZHzEp2ZhAXYnZ2dnUVZ_oqmnZ2d@rcn.net...
> Carl wrote:
>> I'll take a shackle lift over a body lift any day. Body lift is ugly as
>> hell, even at 1". Booo for body lift.
>>
>> Carl
>
> I agree my boss had a 1.5 inch shackle lift on his YJ that cleared 31's
> without rubbing that lasted 40k miles or more before the POS 258 gave up
> around 125k... the lift was fine even on old original leafs. It never had
> an alignment problem. I had roughly the same shackle lift on my YJ for 2
> years and probably 35k miles without a single problem (it later got a real
> spring lift to clear 33"s and later still some Heavy duty slightly longer
> than stock shackles (1/2" lift) to clear 35"s
>
> No 1.5 inch lift should have problems... if you couldn't lift it that far
> without needing to correct castor or drive line angles then we'd have
> millions of old Jeeps that can't be aligned because the old springs
> settled an inch and a half. Mike loves making mountains out of mole hills.
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
#214
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Re: 87 YJ magically turned into a '92 XJ
That is absolutely correct. My YJ had the shackles before I did the
spring-over, and was aligned just fine. Check out
http://s33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/
for pics of the old YJ to see the shackles. Just make sure they're cross
braced and one piece and you'll be fine.
Carl
"Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
message news:I4CdnZHzEp2ZhAXYnZ2dnUVZ_oqmnZ2d@rcn.net...
> Carl wrote:
>> I'll take a shackle lift over a body lift any day. Body lift is ugly as
>> hell, even at 1". Booo for body lift.
>>
>> Carl
>
> I agree my boss had a 1.5 inch shackle lift on his YJ that cleared 31's
> without rubbing that lasted 40k miles or more before the POS 258 gave up
> around 125k... the lift was fine even on old original leafs. It never had
> an alignment problem. I had roughly the same shackle lift on my YJ for 2
> years and probably 35k miles without a single problem (it later got a real
> spring lift to clear 33"s and later still some Heavy duty slightly longer
> than stock shackles (1/2" lift) to clear 35"s
>
> No 1.5 inch lift should have problems... if you couldn't lift it that far
> without needing to correct castor or drive line angles then we'd have
> millions of old Jeeps that can't be aligned because the old springs
> settled an inch and a half. Mike loves making mountains out of mole hills.
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
spring-over, and was aligned just fine. Check out
http://s33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/
for pics of the old YJ to see the shackles. Just make sure they're cross
braced and one piece and you'll be fine.
Carl
"Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
message news:I4CdnZHzEp2ZhAXYnZ2dnUVZ_oqmnZ2d@rcn.net...
> Carl wrote:
>> I'll take a shackle lift over a body lift any day. Body lift is ugly as
>> hell, even at 1". Booo for body lift.
>>
>> Carl
>
> I agree my boss had a 1.5 inch shackle lift on his YJ that cleared 31's
> without rubbing that lasted 40k miles or more before the POS 258 gave up
> around 125k... the lift was fine even on old original leafs. It never had
> an alignment problem. I had roughly the same shackle lift on my YJ for 2
> years and probably 35k miles without a single problem (it later got a real
> spring lift to clear 33"s and later still some Heavy duty slightly longer
> than stock shackles (1/2" lift) to clear 35"s
>
> No 1.5 inch lift should have problems... if you couldn't lift it that far
> without needing to correct castor or drive line angles then we'd have
> millions of old Jeeps that can't be aligned because the old springs
> settled an inch and a half. Mike loves making mountains out of mole hills.
>
> --
> Simon
> "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
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Re: 87 YJ magically turned into a '92 XJ
They are cross-braced and very heavy-duty. We ordered the Performance
Accesories set, but I think they sent us these:
http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...wflag-1#review
the ones we ordered were supposed to be 1.75" lift, but I think these
are about 1.5".
I'm thinking that I'll put these on for now, then later get something
like a 2.5" lift to to bring it up to around 4". I don't see myself
going over 33" tires until I get a bigger engine.
Thanks for the input, guys.
Carl wrote:
> That is absolutely correct. My YJ had the shackles before I did the
> spring-over, and was aligned just fine. Check out
> http://s33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/
>
> for pics of the old YJ to see the shackles. Just make sure they're cross
> braced and one piece and you'll be fine.
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
> message news:I4CdnZHzEp2ZhAXYnZ2dnUVZ_oqmnZ2d@rcn.net...
> > Carl wrote:
> >> I'll take a shackle lift over a body lift any day. Body lift is ugly as
> >> hell, even at 1". Booo for body lift.
> >>
> >> Carl
> >
> > I agree my boss had a 1.5 inch shackle lift on his YJ that cleared 31's
> > without rubbing that lasted 40k miles or more before the POS 258 gave up
> > around 125k... the lift was fine even on old original leafs. It never had
> > an alignment problem. I had roughly the same shackle lift on my YJ for 2
> > years and probably 35k miles without a single problem (it later got a real
> > spring lift to clear 33"s and later still some Heavy duty slightly longer
> > than stock shackles (1/2" lift) to clear 35"s
> >
> > No 1.5 inch lift should have problems... if you couldn't lift it that far
> > without needing to correct castor or drive line angles then we'd have
> > millions of old Jeeps that can't be aligned because the old springs
> > settled an inch and a half. Mike loves making mountains out of mole hills.
> >
> > --
> > Simon
> > "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
Accesories set, but I think they sent us these:
http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...wflag-1#review
the ones we ordered were supposed to be 1.75" lift, but I think these
are about 1.5".
I'm thinking that I'll put these on for now, then later get something
like a 2.5" lift to to bring it up to around 4". I don't see myself
going over 33" tires until I get a bigger engine.
Thanks for the input, guys.
Carl wrote:
> That is absolutely correct. My YJ had the shackles before I did the
> spring-over, and was aligned just fine. Check out
> http://s33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/
>
> for pics of the old YJ to see the shackles. Just make sure they're cross
> braced and one piece and you'll be fine.
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
> message news:I4CdnZHzEp2ZhAXYnZ2dnUVZ_oqmnZ2d@rcn.net...
> > Carl wrote:
> >> I'll take a shackle lift over a body lift any day. Body lift is ugly as
> >> hell, even at 1". Booo for body lift.
> >>
> >> Carl
> >
> > I agree my boss had a 1.5 inch shackle lift on his YJ that cleared 31's
> > without rubbing that lasted 40k miles or more before the POS 258 gave up
> > around 125k... the lift was fine even on old original leafs. It never had
> > an alignment problem. I had roughly the same shackle lift on my YJ for 2
> > years and probably 35k miles without a single problem (it later got a real
> > spring lift to clear 33"s and later still some Heavy duty slightly longer
> > than stock shackles (1/2" lift) to clear 35"s
> >
> > No 1.5 inch lift should have problems... if you couldn't lift it that far
> > without needing to correct castor or drive line angles then we'd have
> > millions of old Jeeps that can't be aligned because the old springs
> > settled an inch and a half. Mike loves making mountains out of mole hills.
> >
> > --
> > Simon
> > "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
#216
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Re: 87 YJ magically turned into a '92 XJ
They are cross-braced and very heavy-duty. We ordered the Performance
Accesories set, but I think they sent us these:
http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...wflag-1#review
the ones we ordered were supposed to be 1.75" lift, but I think these
are about 1.5".
I'm thinking that I'll put these on for now, then later get something
like a 2.5" lift to to bring it up to around 4". I don't see myself
going over 33" tires until I get a bigger engine.
Thanks for the input, guys.
Carl wrote:
> That is absolutely correct. My YJ had the shackles before I did the
> spring-over, and was aligned just fine. Check out
> http://s33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/
>
> for pics of the old YJ to see the shackles. Just make sure they're cross
> braced and one piece and you'll be fine.
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
> message news:I4CdnZHzEp2ZhAXYnZ2dnUVZ_oqmnZ2d@rcn.net...
> > Carl wrote:
> >> I'll take a shackle lift over a body lift any day. Body lift is ugly as
> >> hell, even at 1". Booo for body lift.
> >>
> >> Carl
> >
> > I agree my boss had a 1.5 inch shackle lift on his YJ that cleared 31's
> > without rubbing that lasted 40k miles or more before the POS 258 gave up
> > around 125k... the lift was fine even on old original leafs. It never had
> > an alignment problem. I had roughly the same shackle lift on my YJ for 2
> > years and probably 35k miles without a single problem (it later got a real
> > spring lift to clear 33"s and later still some Heavy duty slightly longer
> > than stock shackles (1/2" lift) to clear 35"s
> >
> > No 1.5 inch lift should have problems... if you couldn't lift it that far
> > without needing to correct castor or drive line angles then we'd have
> > millions of old Jeeps that can't be aligned because the old springs
> > settled an inch and a half. Mike loves making mountains out of mole hills.
> >
> > --
> > Simon
> > "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
Accesories set, but I think they sent us these:
http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...wflag-1#review
the ones we ordered were supposed to be 1.75" lift, but I think these
are about 1.5".
I'm thinking that I'll put these on for now, then later get something
like a 2.5" lift to to bring it up to around 4". I don't see myself
going over 33" tires until I get a bigger engine.
Thanks for the input, guys.
Carl wrote:
> That is absolutely correct. My YJ had the shackles before I did the
> spring-over, and was aligned just fine. Check out
> http://s33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/
>
> for pics of the old YJ to see the shackles. Just make sure they're cross
> braced and one piece and you'll be fine.
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
> message news:I4CdnZHzEp2ZhAXYnZ2dnUVZ_oqmnZ2d@rcn.net...
> > Carl wrote:
> >> I'll take a shackle lift over a body lift any day. Body lift is ugly as
> >> hell, even at 1". Booo for body lift.
> >>
> >> Carl
> >
> > I agree my boss had a 1.5 inch shackle lift on his YJ that cleared 31's
> > without rubbing that lasted 40k miles or more before the POS 258 gave up
> > around 125k... the lift was fine even on old original leafs. It never had
> > an alignment problem. I had roughly the same shackle lift on my YJ for 2
> > years and probably 35k miles without a single problem (it later got a real
> > spring lift to clear 33"s and later still some Heavy duty slightly longer
> > than stock shackles (1/2" lift) to clear 35"s
> >
> > No 1.5 inch lift should have problems... if you couldn't lift it that far
> > without needing to correct castor or drive line angles then we'd have
> > millions of old Jeeps that can't be aligned because the old springs
> > settled an inch and a half. Mike loves making mountains out of mole hills.
> >
> > --
> > Simon
> > "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
#217
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Re: 87 YJ magically turned into a '92 XJ
They are cross-braced and very heavy-duty. We ordered the Performance
Accesories set, but I think they sent us these:
http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...wflag-1#review
the ones we ordered were supposed to be 1.75" lift, but I think these
are about 1.5".
I'm thinking that I'll put these on for now, then later get something
like a 2.5" lift to to bring it up to around 4". I don't see myself
going over 33" tires until I get a bigger engine.
Thanks for the input, guys.
Carl wrote:
> That is absolutely correct. My YJ had the shackles before I did the
> spring-over, and was aligned just fine. Check out
> http://s33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/
>
> for pics of the old YJ to see the shackles. Just make sure they're cross
> braced and one piece and you'll be fine.
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
> message news:I4CdnZHzEp2ZhAXYnZ2dnUVZ_oqmnZ2d@rcn.net...
> > Carl wrote:
> >> I'll take a shackle lift over a body lift any day. Body lift is ugly as
> >> hell, even at 1". Booo for body lift.
> >>
> >> Carl
> >
> > I agree my boss had a 1.5 inch shackle lift on his YJ that cleared 31's
> > without rubbing that lasted 40k miles or more before the POS 258 gave up
> > around 125k... the lift was fine even on old original leafs. It never had
> > an alignment problem. I had roughly the same shackle lift on my YJ for 2
> > years and probably 35k miles without a single problem (it later got a real
> > spring lift to clear 33"s and later still some Heavy duty slightly longer
> > than stock shackles (1/2" lift) to clear 35"s
> >
> > No 1.5 inch lift should have problems... if you couldn't lift it that far
> > without needing to correct castor or drive line angles then we'd have
> > millions of old Jeeps that can't be aligned because the old springs
> > settled an inch and a half. Mike loves making mountains out of mole hills.
> >
> > --
> > Simon
> > "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
Accesories set, but I think they sent us these:
http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...wflag-1#review
the ones we ordered were supposed to be 1.75" lift, but I think these
are about 1.5".
I'm thinking that I'll put these on for now, then later get something
like a 2.5" lift to to bring it up to around 4". I don't see myself
going over 33" tires until I get a bigger engine.
Thanks for the input, guys.
Carl wrote:
> That is absolutely correct. My YJ had the shackles before I did the
> spring-over, and was aligned just fine. Check out
> http://s33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/
>
> for pics of the old YJ to see the shackles. Just make sure they're cross
> braced and one piece and you'll be fine.
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote in
> message news:I4CdnZHzEp2ZhAXYnZ2dnUVZ_oqmnZ2d@rcn.net...
> > Carl wrote:
> >> I'll take a shackle lift over a body lift any day. Body lift is ugly as
> >> hell, even at 1". Booo for body lift.
> >>
> >> Carl
> >
> > I agree my boss had a 1.5 inch shackle lift on his YJ that cleared 31's
> > without rubbing that lasted 40k miles or more before the POS 258 gave up
> > around 125k... the lift was fine even on old original leafs. It never had
> > an alignment problem. I had roughly the same shackle lift on my YJ for 2
> > years and probably 35k miles without a single problem (it later got a real
> > spring lift to clear 33"s and later still some Heavy duty slightly longer
> > than stock shackles (1/2" lift) to clear 35"s
> >
> > No 1.5 inch lift should have problems... if you couldn't lift it that far
> > without needing to correct castor or drive line angles then we'd have
> > millions of old Jeeps that can't be aligned because the old springs
> > settled an inch and a half. Mike loves making mountains out of mole hills.
> >
> > --
> > Simon
> > "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
#218
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Re: 87 YJ magically turned into a '92 XJ
The shackles will be fine. Once you do the 2.5" lift, you'll need to get
some shims to correct your pinion angle, but you'll be fine. You should look
into doing a spring-over. Plush ride, awesome flex, and clears 33's nicely.
The YJ pictured on the link from my previous post was sprung over on 33's.
It's actually cheaper than a 4" lift for a YJ, and you net around 6".
I think I'm the only spring-over advocate in this group, but if you have any
other questions I'll be happy to help.
HTH
Carl
"The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> They are cross-braced and very heavy-duty. We ordered the Performance
> Accesories set, but I think they sent us these:
> http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...wflag-1#review
> the ones we ordered were supposed to be 1.75" lift, but I think these
> are about 1.5".
>
> I'm thinking that I'll put these on for now, then later get something
> like a 2.5" lift to to bring it up to around 4". I don't see myself
> going over 33" tires until I get a bigger engine.
>
> Thanks for the input, guys.
> Carl wrote:
>> That is absolutely correct. My YJ had the shackles before I did the
>> spring-over, and was aligned just fine. Check out
>> http://s33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/
>>
>> for pics of the old YJ to see the shackles. Just make sure they're cross
>> braced and one piece and you'll be fine.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>> "Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote
>> in
>> message news:I4CdnZHzEp2ZhAXYnZ2dnUVZ_oqmnZ2d@rcn.net...
>> > Carl wrote:
>> >> I'll take a shackle lift over a body lift any day. Body lift is ugly
>> >> as
>> >> hell, even at 1". Booo for body lift.
>> >>
>> >> Carl
>> >
>> > I agree my boss had a 1.5 inch shackle lift on his YJ that cleared 31's
>> > without rubbing that lasted 40k miles or more before the POS 258 gave
>> > up
>> > around 125k... the lift was fine even on old original leafs. It never
>> > had
>> > an alignment problem. I had roughly the same shackle lift on my YJ for
>> > 2
>> > years and probably 35k miles without a single problem (it later got a
>> > real
>> > spring lift to clear 33"s and later still some Heavy duty slightly
>> > longer
>> > than stock shackles (1/2" lift) to clear 35"s
>> >
>> > No 1.5 inch lift should have problems... if you couldn't lift it that
>> > far
>> > without needing to correct castor or drive line angles then we'd have
>> > millions of old Jeeps that can't be aligned because the old springs
>> > settled an inch and a half. Mike loves making mountains out of mole
>> > hills.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Simon
>> > "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
>
some shims to correct your pinion angle, but you'll be fine. You should look
into doing a spring-over. Plush ride, awesome flex, and clears 33's nicely.
The YJ pictured on the link from my previous post was sprung over on 33's.
It's actually cheaper than a 4" lift for a YJ, and you net around 6".
I think I'm the only spring-over advocate in this group, but if you have any
other questions I'll be happy to help.
HTH
Carl
"The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1167602775.284073.253840@a3g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
> They are cross-braced and very heavy-duty. We ordered the Performance
> Accesories set, but I think they sent us these:
> http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...wflag-1#review
> the ones we ordered were supposed to be 1.75" lift, but I think these
> are about 1.5".
>
> I'm thinking that I'll put these on for now, then later get something
> like a 2.5" lift to to bring it up to around 4". I don't see myself
> going over 33" tires until I get a bigger engine.
>
> Thanks for the input, guys.
> Carl wrote:
>> That is absolutely correct. My YJ had the shackles before I did the
>> spring-over, and was aligned just fine. Check out
>> http://s33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/
>>
>> for pics of the old YJ to see the shackles. Just make sure they're cross
>> braced and one piece and you'll be fine.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>> "Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote
>> in
>> message news:I4CdnZHzEp2ZhAXYnZ2dnUVZ_oqmnZ2d@rcn.net...
>> > Carl wrote:
>> >> I'll take a shackle lift over a body lift any day. Body lift is ugly
>> >> as
>> >> hell, even at 1". Booo for body lift.
>> >>
>> >> Carl
>> >
>> > I agree my boss had a 1.5 inch shackle lift on his YJ that cleared 31's
>> > without rubbing that lasted 40k miles or more before the POS 258 gave
>> > up
>> > around 125k... the lift was fine even on old original leafs. It never
>> > had
>> > an alignment problem. I had roughly the same shackle lift on my YJ for
>> > 2
>> > years and probably 35k miles without a single problem (it later got a
>> > real
>> > spring lift to clear 33"s and later still some Heavy duty slightly
>> > longer
>> > than stock shackles (1/2" lift) to clear 35"s
>> >
>> > No 1.5 inch lift should have problems... if you couldn't lift it that
>> > far
>> > without needing to correct castor or drive line angles then we'd have
>> > millions of old Jeeps that can't be aligned because the old springs
>> > settled an inch and a half. Mike loves making mountains out of mole
>> > hills.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Simon
>> > "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
>
#219
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 87 YJ magically turned into a '92 XJ
The shackles will be fine. Once you do the 2.5" lift, you'll need to get
some shims to correct your pinion angle, but you'll be fine. You should look
into doing a spring-over. Plush ride, awesome flex, and clears 33's nicely.
The YJ pictured on the link from my previous post was sprung over on 33's.
It's actually cheaper than a 4" lift for a YJ, and you net around 6".
I think I'm the only spring-over advocate in this group, but if you have any
other questions I'll be happy to help.
HTH
Carl
"The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1167602775.284073.253840@a3g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
> They are cross-braced and very heavy-duty. We ordered the Performance
> Accesories set, but I think they sent us these:
> http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...wflag-1#review
> the ones we ordered were supposed to be 1.75" lift, but I think these
> are about 1.5".
>
> I'm thinking that I'll put these on for now, then later get something
> like a 2.5" lift to to bring it up to around 4". I don't see myself
> going over 33" tires until I get a bigger engine.
>
> Thanks for the input, guys.
> Carl wrote:
>> That is absolutely correct. My YJ had the shackles before I did the
>> spring-over, and was aligned just fine. Check out
>> http://s33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/
>>
>> for pics of the old YJ to see the shackles. Just make sure they're cross
>> braced and one piece and you'll be fine.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>> "Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote
>> in
>> message news:I4CdnZHzEp2ZhAXYnZ2dnUVZ_oqmnZ2d@rcn.net...
>> > Carl wrote:
>> >> I'll take a shackle lift over a body lift any day. Body lift is ugly
>> >> as
>> >> hell, even at 1". Booo for body lift.
>> >>
>> >> Carl
>> >
>> > I agree my boss had a 1.5 inch shackle lift on his YJ that cleared 31's
>> > without rubbing that lasted 40k miles or more before the POS 258 gave
>> > up
>> > around 125k... the lift was fine even on old original leafs. It never
>> > had
>> > an alignment problem. I had roughly the same shackle lift on my YJ for
>> > 2
>> > years and probably 35k miles without a single problem (it later got a
>> > real
>> > spring lift to clear 33"s and later still some Heavy duty slightly
>> > longer
>> > than stock shackles (1/2" lift) to clear 35"s
>> >
>> > No 1.5 inch lift should have problems... if you couldn't lift it that
>> > far
>> > without needing to correct castor or drive line angles then we'd have
>> > millions of old Jeeps that can't be aligned because the old springs
>> > settled an inch and a half. Mike loves making mountains out of mole
>> > hills.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Simon
>> > "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
>
some shims to correct your pinion angle, but you'll be fine. You should look
into doing a spring-over. Plush ride, awesome flex, and clears 33's nicely.
The YJ pictured on the link from my previous post was sprung over on 33's.
It's actually cheaper than a 4" lift for a YJ, and you net around 6".
I think I'm the only spring-over advocate in this group, but if you have any
other questions I'll be happy to help.
HTH
Carl
"The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1167602775.284073.253840@a3g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
> They are cross-braced and very heavy-duty. We ordered the Performance
> Accesories set, but I think they sent us these:
> http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...wflag-1#review
> the ones we ordered were supposed to be 1.75" lift, but I think these
> are about 1.5".
>
> I'm thinking that I'll put these on for now, then later get something
> like a 2.5" lift to to bring it up to around 4". I don't see myself
> going over 33" tires until I get a bigger engine.
>
> Thanks for the input, guys.
> Carl wrote:
>> That is absolutely correct. My YJ had the shackles before I did the
>> spring-over, and was aligned just fine. Check out
>> http://s33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/
>>
>> for pics of the old YJ to see the shackles. Just make sure they're cross
>> braced and one piece and you'll be fine.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>> "Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote
>> in
>> message news:I4CdnZHzEp2ZhAXYnZ2dnUVZ_oqmnZ2d@rcn.net...
>> > Carl wrote:
>> >> I'll take a shackle lift over a body lift any day. Body lift is ugly
>> >> as
>> >> hell, even at 1". Booo for body lift.
>> >>
>> >> Carl
>> >
>> > I agree my boss had a 1.5 inch shackle lift on his YJ that cleared 31's
>> > without rubbing that lasted 40k miles or more before the POS 258 gave
>> > up
>> > around 125k... the lift was fine even on old original leafs. It never
>> > had
>> > an alignment problem. I had roughly the same shackle lift on my YJ for
>> > 2
>> > years and probably 35k miles without a single problem (it later got a
>> > real
>> > spring lift to clear 33"s and later still some Heavy duty slightly
>> > longer
>> > than stock shackles (1/2" lift) to clear 35"s
>> >
>> > No 1.5 inch lift should have problems... if you couldn't lift it that
>> > far
>> > without needing to correct castor or drive line angles then we'd have
>> > millions of old Jeeps that can't be aligned because the old springs
>> > settled an inch and a half. Mike loves making mountains out of mole
>> > hills.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Simon
>> > "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
>
#220
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 87 YJ magically turned into a '92 XJ
The shackles will be fine. Once you do the 2.5" lift, you'll need to get
some shims to correct your pinion angle, but you'll be fine. You should look
into doing a spring-over. Plush ride, awesome flex, and clears 33's nicely.
The YJ pictured on the link from my previous post was sprung over on 33's.
It's actually cheaper than a 4" lift for a YJ, and you net around 6".
I think I'm the only spring-over advocate in this group, but if you have any
other questions I'll be happy to help.
HTH
Carl
"The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1167602775.284073.253840@a3g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
> They are cross-braced and very heavy-duty. We ordered the Performance
> Accesories set, but I think they sent us these:
> http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...wflag-1#review
> the ones we ordered were supposed to be 1.75" lift, but I think these
> are about 1.5".
>
> I'm thinking that I'll put these on for now, then later get something
> like a 2.5" lift to to bring it up to around 4". I don't see myself
> going over 33" tires until I get a bigger engine.
>
> Thanks for the input, guys.
> Carl wrote:
>> That is absolutely correct. My YJ had the shackles before I did the
>> spring-over, and was aligned just fine. Check out
>> http://s33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/
>>
>> for pics of the old YJ to see the shackles. Just make sure they're cross
>> braced and one piece and you'll be fine.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>> "Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote
>> in
>> message news:I4CdnZHzEp2ZhAXYnZ2dnUVZ_oqmnZ2d@rcn.net...
>> > Carl wrote:
>> >> I'll take a shackle lift over a body lift any day. Body lift is ugly
>> >> as
>> >> hell, even at 1". Booo for body lift.
>> >>
>> >> Carl
>> >
>> > I agree my boss had a 1.5 inch shackle lift on his YJ that cleared 31's
>> > without rubbing that lasted 40k miles or more before the POS 258 gave
>> > up
>> > around 125k... the lift was fine even on old original leafs. It never
>> > had
>> > an alignment problem. I had roughly the same shackle lift on my YJ for
>> > 2
>> > years and probably 35k miles without a single problem (it later got a
>> > real
>> > spring lift to clear 33"s and later still some Heavy duty slightly
>> > longer
>> > than stock shackles (1/2" lift) to clear 35"s
>> >
>> > No 1.5 inch lift should have problems... if you couldn't lift it that
>> > far
>> > without needing to correct castor or drive line angles then we'd have
>> > millions of old Jeeps that can't be aligned because the old springs
>> > settled an inch and a half. Mike loves making mountains out of mole
>> > hills.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Simon
>> > "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
>
some shims to correct your pinion angle, but you'll be fine. You should look
into doing a spring-over. Plush ride, awesome flex, and clears 33's nicely.
The YJ pictured on the link from my previous post was sprung over on 33's.
It's actually cheaper than a 4" lift for a YJ, and you net around 6".
I think I'm the only spring-over advocate in this group, but if you have any
other questions I'll be happy to help.
HTH
Carl
"The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1167602775.284073.253840@a3g2000cwd.googlegro ups.com...
> They are cross-braced and very heavy-duty. We ordered the Performance
> Accesories set, but I think they sent us these:
> http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...wflag-1#review
> the ones we ordered were supposed to be 1.75" lift, but I think these
> are about 1.5".
>
> I'm thinking that I'll put these on for now, then later get something
> like a 2.5" lift to to bring it up to around 4". I don't see myself
> going over 33" tires until I get a bigger engine.
>
> Thanks for the input, guys.
> Carl wrote:
>> That is absolutely correct. My YJ had the shackles before I did the
>> spring-over, and was aligned just fine. Check out
>> http://s33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/carlsaiyed/
>>
>> for pics of the old YJ to see the shackles. Just make sure they're cross
>> braced and one piece and you'll be fine.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>> "Simon Juncal" <SPAMERSSUCK@usefirstinitialandlastnameATerols.com > wrote
>> in
>> message news:I4CdnZHzEp2ZhAXYnZ2dnUVZ_oqmnZ2d@rcn.net...
>> > Carl wrote:
>> >> I'll take a shackle lift over a body lift any day. Body lift is ugly
>> >> as
>> >> hell, even at 1". Booo for body lift.
>> >>
>> >> Carl
>> >
>> > I agree my boss had a 1.5 inch shackle lift on his YJ that cleared 31's
>> > without rubbing that lasted 40k miles or more before the POS 258 gave
>> > up
>> > around 125k... the lift was fine even on old original leafs. It never
>> > had
>> > an alignment problem. I had roughly the same shackle lift on my YJ for
>> > 2
>> > years and probably 35k miles without a single problem (it later got a
>> > real
>> > spring lift to clear 33"s and later still some Heavy duty slightly
>> > longer
>> > than stock shackles (1/2" lift) to clear 35"s
>> >
>> > No 1.5 inch lift should have problems... if you couldn't lift it that
>> > far
>> > without needing to correct castor or drive line angles then we'd have
>> > millions of old Jeeps that can't be aligned because the old springs
>> > settled an inch and a half. Mike loves making mountains out of mole
>> > hills.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Simon
>> > "I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
>